
The Trail of the Wolf
The headline could read like this: “Residents’ uprising swamps water park plan.”
In a showdown at City Hall last Thursday, the City Council vote was 5-to-0 against locating a Great Wolf Lodges indoor water park tourist attraction on Peachtree City’s signature wooded lane, Aberdeen Parkway.
Well-prepared and unemotional residents schooled the council on what city zoning ordinances actually say. Ordinary citizens shredded the city planner’s rationalization for approving a variance.
The city attorney afterwards told a council member that he had questions about the city staff’s recommendation in favor of the GWL variance that would have allowed a 27-foot water tube intrusion into a residential buffer to adjacent homes.
It was clear the citizen outcry shocked GWL supporters, including those on city staff and City Council. Those advocates at City Hall were blinded by the novelty of a water park and its promised tax bonanza. They didn’t see the citizen tsunami coming at them until it overwhelmed them.
Don’t believe what that final 5-to-0 vote implies. There was no unanimity there. If feelings could be measured, the real vote was 2-to-0 against (Eric Imker and Kim Learnard) and an additional 3-to-0 reluctant negatives because councilmen Mike King and Terry Ernst and Mayor Vanessa Fleisch saw which way the hurricane was blowing.
Had not the citizens risen up in protest, the final vote would have been a victory for GWL, 3-to-2.
How do I know? The email trail tells the tale.
The Citizen made an open records request for all correspondence to or from city officials related to Great Wolf. We received more than 200 emails.
The first batch, chronologically sorted through the end of January 2015, will be posted online this week. The second batch will follow next week.
Read the email trail and draw your own conclusions. Here’s my opinion about some of what the written documents reveal.
• City Planner David Rast saw his role as greasing the water wheel for Great Wolf.
• Councilman Mike King became the water park’s chief water carrier, apparently irking Mayor Vanessa Fleisch at one point, mainly because she wanted a more direct role in the fait accompli.
• Some (not all) city department heads cooperated in the wheel greasing because it was obvious the project had a strong three-member council majority.
• The usual neutral city zoning and variance stance was altered to become outright advocacy in favor of an outsider.
• Before The Citizen’s online scoop about Great Wolf Jan. 18, there’s no record of anybody at City Hall raising questions about the political wisdom of surfing the Great Wolf wave. In other words, nobody in authority worried about what residents might think or whether they might object.
That’s my opinion; read the emails and see what your most generous interpretation might be.
I’m very disappointed in the performance of the city’s chief planner, David Rast. When our Citizen reporter Ben Nelms asked Rast in mid-January about Great Wolf before we broke the story Jan. 18, Rast lied to him.
Here’s what Rast told a GWL executive Jan. 14: “Will keep you guys posted if there are any questions. I can tell you that one of our local reporters has already been asking for a copy of the application — at the time, I told him I knew nothing about the project. David E. Rast, ASLA, Senior Planner” [Emphasis mine.]
But Rast knew everything about the project since Oct. 15, 2014.
I emailed Rast and his boss, City Manager Jim Pennington, this past Friday and asked the following question:
“So, a senior Peachtree City government official lied to The Citizen’s reporter about a major project like this? Under what Open Records exception do you claim the right to lie to the public as part of your official capacity?”
I have yet to hear anything from Rast or Pennington. I guess if the project promises to produce lots of new tax income, it’s OK for city officials to lie to the public as part of their official duties.
By the way, after the news hit the fan in The Citizen, here’s what Pennington said about a month after Rast’s lie: “Whether or not anything happens at Dolce, false information is unacceptable.”
Pennington was referring to residents’ inquiries about water runoff in nearby subdivisions. I wonder if his memo applies to Rast?
And what does ex-Mayor Bob Lenox call citizens who opposed the water park location? “Morons” and a “lynch mob.”
Our rich ex-mayor always did think he was the smartest guy in the county; he hasn’t lost any of his high self-esteem 15 years after leaving office. Women especially will want to study Lenox’s method of communicating with Councilwoman Kim Learnard. Really classy guy, our ex-mayor.
And there’s this intriguing Jan. 9 email exchange from one of the GWL agents to Rast: “David, is there any campaign/donation disclosure form that needs to be signed with the application, etc.?”
Rast replies (drily, I’m supposing): “We do not require this as a part of our rezoning application.”
The most important issue, I believe — especially for the city going forward — is this: The City Council and the city’s senior management team must decide whether they represent the citizens of Peachtree City or whether they intend to champion every “Big Idea” development that comes down Ga. Highway 74 from the airport, regardless of what residents think.
A little more bluntly: Will our elected and paid public servants have first allegiance to the people who pay their salaries and elected them, or to the next big bucks offer that swoops into town? Whose voice will they listen to?
If the city leadership intends to change the basic vision underlying Peachtree City — in effect, the city’s business model — the leaders are morally and politically obligated to have a very public and prolonged conversation with the residents of the city first.
Without that conversation and a widespread agreement, more uprisings are inevitable.
That conversation can begin in the run-up to this fall’s elections for two council posts.
More to come.
[Cal Beverly is editor and publisher of The Citizen.]
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Comments
Go, Cal, Go
The incompetence and utter lack of leadership from council and staff are to blame for the vitriol released into our town over the past weeks. Neighbor pitted against neighbor in the interest of shaky at best financial gain. Our government has embarrassed our city to the entire metro area. It has been amateur hour from beginning to end. King's tortured comments from the dais defy any semblance of logic. First he talks of appreciating citizen's passion, claims however that he is a man of reason yet is unable to give any reasoning for his no vote. In a final act of emotional petulance, he threatens his constituents with a phantom 400,000 square foot development that would not be allowed under the current GC zoning. Further showing his lack of knowledge of the ordinances he is not only is paid to uphold but has sworn to uphold.
News Flash
Governments on the north-side of Atlanta have been laughing at PTC government for the last 12 years (mostly mayors before the current council)....this is nothing new.
However, I don't think you can blame staff as they get directive and relay information.
The problem here is PTC residents don't want what is best for the city, they want what is best for them. A business minded council will always act in what is best for the city as a whole, both long and short term. Entitled citizens want what they want, and even worse, they don't want to pay for it...they think it should be given to them.
I'm not saying this council made a good decision or a bad decision on GW...only time will tell.
Dar, I have family on the northside...
Cumming...to be precise, frankly I am glad we are not like them in all ways. I can't stand the out of control growth up there...gridlock in most all directions. I am glad they like it, more room for us here. PTC will never be as dense as those areas, and for that I am glad. Let them laugh, although I have spoken with more than a few folks up there that wish they had taken our vision from years ago.
Out of curiosity, what were you thoughts on the GW project at Dolce? It is close to your building in Westpark for sure. Frankly, I think it was middle of the road at best...
Spyglass
Your right...it actually touches my property on my office building on Commerce Drive, North.
I understand your position regarding the north-side but I'm not sure there is a concern of ongoing values of houses and real-estate. There is a happy medium. The problem with no growth ( I want controlled growth and quality growth) is that one day you end up with an old city that no-one wants to be a part of and then everything declines and implodes. There is a fine line but there is an old saying if your not growing your dying.
Regarding the GW project; this is a very complicated set of circumstances. IMO-the traffic would have been a mute point...personally I think it (traffic) would have gone un-noticed. You may recall traffic was going to be backed-up past Kedron Drive on hwy 74 if we allowed the Target Center. It has never once been a problem.
Usually, nothing is ever bad as they say it will be and by the same token usually not as good as they say it will be. My frustration is that we as a city need to drive and create revenue with as little burden to the tax-payers as possible. If the citizens want to pay more taxes to off-set the economic loss than that is always an option. They just don't want to. It's hard to have it both ways.
My concern is what happens if Dolce closes and nothing goes there. That's a huge problem! Or, what if something you really don't want goes there?
We gave up a huge economic impact for something that may have actually gone pretty much un-noticed. What about the impact on the local business owners such as retail and restaurants. Because of my personal mind-set (that's just me) I would have probably voted for GW knowing the downside by not doing the project could be a major catastrophe. I have nothing against those who were against this project...they probably have more information than me. I just personally think the upside outweighs the downside. Way to much revenue to turn away for something that may have actually gone un-noticed or very little inconvenience. People don't like change.
I guess we will never know.
Excuse me
Let me add my two cents
First off within the past year city Council has approved two new hotels with variances because they say that we lack hotel space. If great wolf have been approved the city would have been losing hotel rooms. It does not make sense.
Who ever owns the property from what I understand purchased it at a value of $30 million and now tax records show it is worth 8 million. Can anyone say bad business decision?
The next issue is the dolce lacks good management. Why aren't the rooms filled. Why aren't the room rates reduced in order to fill the rooms? Why aren't we seeing more advertisements of the products they offer?
I was at the meeting and the city failed to sell the project. They were not prepared and we're schooled by the residents. It was amateur hour at its finest and just showed everyone how important it is to elect qualified officials.
About halfway through the discussion from the citizens you could see some councilmembers heads looking at their desk you could see councilmembers starting to squirm and rock in their chairs. It was quite telling that they didn't perform their due diligence
We do need new business and we do need revitalization but it has to be done intelligently so we do not end up like northside ATL.
Property sales price and tax valuations rarely
Make any sense. If anything, the County has it undervalued. Would you take what they have your house valued at?
That property will bring much more than 8 million on the open market.
All good points Dar..
I too remember the doomsday traffic predictions for the Kedron development. Honestly, it is like the Dolce wanted to greatly expand their pool and add a couple of water slides. I was on the fence, and like you say, we'll never know.
Mr. Thompson - laughing
This remark seems a bit sophomoric, I think "governments" should represent the desires of their citizens. I don't recall any "governments on the north side" being named by any major publications as being great places to live.
As for paying for the amenities here I agree with you, citizens need to pony up in higher taxes. In my opinion, this council is better than most we have had in the last fifteen years.
Surprised it was kept under wraps as long as it was.
I silll say it would not have been the great windfall nor the end of PTC as we know it. Somewhere in between. I think turning it down was the correct vote...we can do better.
Really Cal?
Really Cal? Are you are really going to spin this story? David Rast lied? Your kidding, right? You make it sound like he sold guns to terrorist.
First of all, anything to do with preliminary conversations regarding Economic Development doesn't apply to your position. So your point is mute. I would have told your reporter the same exact thing. At that point in time it is none of your business.
Anyone who has half a brain and understands how corporations and businesses operate would never have preliminary discussion with a city or another business if they thought or knew that the information could become public. Once the company signs a application, then it becomes public knowledge and the citizens have a right to know. That's the way it works...period! That's the way it worked in this situation.
Do you think Pinewood would even be here if they had to inform the mighty "CITIZEN" they were having discussions about a movie studio in Fayette County. Come on Cal...you know better.
The variance issue was a structure hanging over a parking area with an added 75 foot buffer. Don't make it sound as if though it was hanging over someone's property.
Oh, regarding Bob Lenox, the mayor who built this city, who just so happens to be one the smartest people in the room. It is not Mr. Lenox' fault that he is smarter than most, and it's not his fault that he happens to actually know what other people don't know. You may not like it but those are just the facts.
It amazes me how 150 people can control a city. If we always listened to the 150 citizens that were against something there would be no Avenue, no Home Depot or Wal-Mart, and no Target Center. It's a good thing those councils didn't listen to the 150 citizens then. However, the one time thy did listen we get a gas station and a fast food restaurant instead of an upscale shopping center that they (the 150) said would never happen. They listened to the 150 and lost property tax revenue and sales tax revenue forever. And, we still get a red light.
Who knows, maybe the mayor and council got this one right, maybe they didn't...only time will tell. The issue is simply this; leaders (staff and council) need to lead and make hard decisions, decisions which are best for the city as a whole. This isn't a popularity contest.
Right you are, Dar on business development, 1 quibble on Lenox
That is indeed how a business discusses things with a local government and it emphasizes why we should have our own economic development person in Peachtree City to handle these often confidential and sensitive inquiries. It also shows why Pace kept Pinewood away from Brown and the state kept almost everything away from Haddix. And those guys were the bookend mayors of the great 12 year economic development drought in Peachtree City.
My quibble on Lenox is that he did not build this city, PCDC did with Equitable's money after Joel Cowan did with Phipp's money. Lenox was simply smart enough to follow Frady and Brown (meaning Fred, the real mayor Brown) in their realization that the development company was a useful extension of city government. As an aside, the PCDC people thought city government was one of their departments, but I digress. PCDC and the city working together to plan and build under the master land use plan with a patient and deep pocketed land owner and financial partner (Equitable), a series of mostly compliant and non-grandstanding city councils and a cadre of volunteer citizens and organizations willing to serve the common good worked fine up until 2001. We all know what happened then and I don't mean Sept. 11 - more like January 3.
I had some good feelings that our 12-year drought was over and that this mayor and council was really moving forward and away from the uselessness of the 3 previous administrations. Maybe we can look at the wolf thing as a rookie mistake of overreach by the 3 new kids on the block with hope of contrition and seasoning. I really hope so.
Live free or die!
RWM
You are right on this one. I guess my point was Mr. Lenox was smart enough to understand how the machine works. He didn't actually build the ship but he sure knew how to steer the ship.
He wasn't running a popularity contest...he just simply knew the facts and made decisions based on facts.
Good analogy on Lenox, dar.
Steering the ship is exactly what mayor and council should be doing. Recognizing that a ship has many moving parts and relies upon many people of different skill sets to maintain them. The captain of a ship probably knows how to operate the radar, oil the engine and use the radio, but that doesn't mean he should jump in do those jobs as he is probably not the best trained or most efficient person to do that job.
I remember Lenox as a mayor who was a true leader. Abrasive sometimes, funny at others but he did have the best people working for him and he let them do their jobs. And he did grandstand a little bit with his checkbook, but it was done in such an endearing way that he knew that everyone was in on the joke.
Not too fond of the sewer deal, but probably that would have happened regardless of who was mayor.
Mudcat - generally
Generally, I agree with you about Mayor Lenox. Good leader and good leaders can be abrasive at times. Nonetheless, on balance a good Mayor.
Perfect place the Wulf to buy and re-develop.
NCR has announced they will be leaving PTC and moving their
Inventory operations to Memphis TN. The remainder of the NCR
Employees will either be laid off or moved to the new campus
In Mid-Town Atlanta. There large building could easily accommodate
A large in door water park, and if not already will be on the market soon.
That sounds like a total rezoning to me, hotel operations
Would be out of place in the Industrial Park, would they not? The other GW project involved a couple of variances, Coincil wouldn't entertain that. I think there must be something else going on.
I'm sure it can be added
to Pinewood. Call it Great Wood at Pinewood. Red Riding Hood can surely make it happen.
Wolf and water metaphors soon to be gone with the wind
I can just imagine the day at Citizen HQ when they all realized what fertile ground was available for the seeds of wolf metaphors to be sown. That came first.
Later as the specter of excessive stormwater runoff or even a leaky water main arose from the ashes of the Great Wolf's attempted end run around the voters of Peachtree City did the Citizen begin to surf upon the repetitive waves of available water metaphors.
I know it is tempting and even funny sometimes, but anything good can be overdone and I do believe we have arrived at that point.
gw NIBY
Sorry but even though Great Wolf was a little over the top it would have been a good fit in some ways. Now when Dolce becomes an extended stay motel let's see the screaming. Conference Centers are a thing of the past and unless someone has a better idea we are going to have either a set of empty buildings or a very large flop house.
Where is Vision
Isn't this where Bob Ross comes flying wearing tights and a cape and tells us what we should do?
Heck, if we had polished professionals instead of amateurs we could have the Google data center that is now going to placed in Fairburn.
Dar stop whining
Dar, you clearly only care about your needs and wants. You show up for city council meetings to get angry over being stuck at a light that is not the cities problem - need I remind you, that light belongs to the State (hwy 54), instead you should have been there getting angry when the city was pushing to have those 1000+ homes built in your neighborhood. Stop it before the problem starts, not cry over it once it is there.
Whining
The police department and the city did an awesome job at dealing with the issue with the light. Extremely professional and all was corrected. No one from the state showed up to address the issue...the city addressed the issues with intelligence and perseverance.
Regarding the 1000 homes, why would I whine. I like the idea! It creates revenue to off-set taxes.
Just may want to work on getting your facts straight about the facts.
Oh Dar
How long before we hear what you have to tell us about Lexington Park?
I must have missed you at the Planning Comm. meeting for GW and council meeting. Would have liked to have heard what you thought.
Lexington Park?
What about Lexington Park?
Everything is fantastic there and the potential of the new grocery store and shopping center...it only gets better day by day.
Glad to hear it
although, this is the first I've heard about a shopping center. Has that been applied for to city yet? Or did a little red riding hood tell you about it during chats? Sure need more retail over there, with Publix having empty echoes up and down their center and now Bradshaw wanting to add more to the mix along there.
Planning Commission
has already approved the plans (that is my understanding). There have been articles and pics of the layout in the paper.
This is the potential Sprout grocery store site on the 4 plus acres on the corner of hwy 54 and Walt Banks. And there is more on the way for Lexington, so stay tuned. We have it under control..no need to worry.
The retail on the ends
of the (ahem) Sprouts building or additional retail off the Sprouts property?
Me worry? Why would anyone in this city worry? Just rolling along all shi$# and giggles like everyone else.:)
Can anyone say
Condescending prince.
Like he is the only successful business person in PTC and his ideas are perfect.
If we all listened to him, we'd look like Marietta and Cobb Parkway
H&F
I simply replied to the comment about Lexington quoting blogger regarding Lexington...sorry you found it, as you put condescending.
I think you have me mistaken for someone else, I have zero interest in looking like Marietta or Cobb Pkwy. Under my plan/ideas (you can go back as far as eight years and read my articles) the following would be true:
*A beautiful retail center on Hwy 54 west that would have and would be paying property taxes and sales tax. Not a gas station
*McDuff would have been completed over 4 years ago.
Why? because I would have required a bond from the builders that would assure the money would be there for the city to build McDuff in case the homebuilders did not. Which is what happened. The city or council did not require a bond for the project this time either.
*Possible TDK extension that must be accompanied by annexation of all of Lake McIntosh to control the borders and maintain home values inside the bubble.
*I would have never rezoned the best office park to accommodate a hotel. That hotel would have moved to Lexington and enhanced that project while keeping the 14 acre office park in tact.
*I would have a true aquatic center and not a bubble and rec pool that only 250 (out of 35,000)of our citizens use on a fairly consistent basis.
*I would have equal equity distribution of allotted recreation dollars. Under my plan the $390,000 to fix the building at Kedron would not have cost the tax-payer a penny.
*I would find a solution for the tennis center problem. Tons of money thrown at this project that has less than 400 members (half from another county).
*Build-out would be around 41,000 to 43,000 people, then lock the door.
Sounds more like Beverly Hills to me...not Marietta.
Oh Dar
Why dont you buy it Dar and put in an ice arena ?
Where have you been?
Have you not been keeping track.
We have a new ice rink already built...just not here (off Roswell road 45 minutes away). BTW-Ice is booked for the next 6 months. Sorry PTC missed out. At least this city is consistent....missing opportunities, one after the next.
You can keep your pool that losses $300,000 a year and over 7 million dollars since it opened.
Dar- why don't you build it
If the Ice rink is such a good deal and will make money why not build it yourself. If the bubble was proposed now it would have never have been done and in the long run they would have been better off with an indoor facility. Stop crying about something that is a done deal. I don't see any new facilities in the next decade so private funds are the only way that these things will be built.
Are you not listening
Our ice rink has already been built (please see two blogs above) and the ice is already booked six-months in advance....so no need to build one here.
Not crying about the bubble....crying about the incompetence to continue to waste tax-payers money. Less that one 1% of PTC residents use this pool on a consistent basis. Those are actual facts provided by the city.
Your logic (that is a done deal) implies it's okay to continue to waste over 7 million dollars and even continue setting money on fire because...it's a done deal. News flash, when something is not working you either fix it or shut it down.
Hey Spy
Does it still crack you up to see the paragraph below?
"And there’s this intriguing Jan. 9 email exchange from one of the GWL agents to Rast: “David, is there any campaign/donation disclosure form that needs to be signed with the application, etc.?”
Rast replies (drily, I’m supposing): “We do not require this as a part of our rezoning application.”
Folks been donating for years...
It's the American Way. Aren't all donations above a certain amount detailed anyways when someone runs for office? I can't think they gave more than a thousand or so. Lotta good it did.
All over a variance. I'm still thinking something else came up...they could have made it work fairly easily within the existing zoning.
NCR the good news
I just betcha Pond & Co. could put some more good spin out there on this gem. Gee, wonder if the city paid them enough, they will come up with more traffic and a new light now needed at NCR parking entrance onto 74 due to the vast sucking sound of employee vehicles leaving the parking lot...for good? I mean, if a 200 room addition to a hotel and a new water park generates no new traffic or need for a light, then the oppposite should be true of the closing of the second largest employer in the city, right? Phhhhtttt.
And just where is that PTC paid FCDA Business Retention Specialist when you need her? Should be a real enlightening "where do we go from here" DA retreat tomorrow. Hope Ben Nelms is let in to observe the goings on. Ben, stand your ground and good luck.
Took his ball and went home
Does this mean Mr. King does not plan to run for another term on council?
Now who is the mayor going to select for the important representative on the FCDA?
Nancy Price
That would be the best answer to both your questions.
I don't know if he's going to run again or not, but from the first batch of e-mails it looks like he and Terry were much too supportive of the Great Wolf. Have to read the second batch to be sure, but I think Mr.King is toast for not respecting the land use plan.
And whoever said Dolce is aware of the restrictions on the property and will act accordingly - NAH! There are no restrictions. It is zoned GC. It is also severely undervalued from the purchase price of $30million and besides that Dolce doesn't even own it - some capital investment firm does. All of which is going to lead us into a sale to some bottom feeder who will have nothing but his own interests at heart. Just guessing, but maybe $6million for 38 acres? That's pretty cheap for zoned GC land in PTC - less than $160,000 per acre. Cheap enough to tear it down and start all over. I'd be worried if I lived nearby. At least we know the existing buffers are there. Maybe the county commissioner that represents that area can come up with something. Or better yet, Mike and Terry can make amends by getting a community college there.
Think outside the box. Government is the answer.
Fayette County government that is. This is really creative and I suspect Brown or Rapson will eventually wind up taking credit,but I don't care. Just consider this as a solution to the Aberdeen Woods 38 acres. Four easy steps:
1. Have Fayette County buy it. $6million or even a little more- a bargain.
2. Relocate all government offices from Stonewall Village and elsewhere to Aberdeen Woods/Dolce - the classroom building only. Minimal renovation.
3. Sell Stonewall Village back to Bill Bonner for current market value as a shopping center (which is what it was built as) and have millions in profit. Give the Main Street people a say in creating some restrictions - they will salivate over that.
4. Sell the residential and restaurant building at Dolce to Mr.Patel -any Patel will do. He can run a first or second class hotel there and the county workers all get free lunch and 2 for 1 drinks at happy hour. More profits to the county.
And then the Rapson Brown duo can reduce our tax bills by some significant amount for the next few years and take full credit for their leadership.
Simple solutions to complex problems.
Live free or die!
RWM & "out of the box"
Quite creative but it will never work. Stonewall Village won't work as a shopping center--didn't before and won't now. And the traffic would be horrendous. Besides, why would Bonner be interested? Stonewall Village is just right for our County offices--why mess with it? Why would anybody named Patel be interested in anything at Dolce? Nice try though.
Sarcasm meter out of order?
Get it checked.
Well Gym, you had to be there - like I was
First, I was there for the original zoning meetings for Aberdeen Woods when the Pinegate people were out in force about the Pitney Bowes trainees plundering the neighborhood and raping their daughters. It was not as bad as the Great Wolf protest, but pretty dramatic.
Then, who could have predicted that an inside deal, mostly hidden would result in Stonewall Village being bought by the government before it went into foreclosure. Bonner was an insider. His partner Woody Johnson was not. Much uproar. Of course Bonner would not be interested, but someone would be. Traffic? Not the new buyers problem. One might ask what the current zoning on Stonewall Village is today. GC? - be careful.
My point is what seems unlikely is not impossible. Words to live by.
Live free or die!
RWM, Stonewall Village & Traffic
My point was that potential shoppers would avoid it like the Plague, thereby reducing any possible success as a shopping center.
No, there would be no shoppers, but it is still a good idea.
Just trying to get some ideas out there that are better than a huge water park as a tourist attraction. That's a bad idea. The problem is our mayor and council and certainly staff doesn't seem too creative lately (year #13 and counting) and since all they are going to do is react to outside proposals, let's give them some good ones - otherwise we get what we deserve.
It sure isn't going to stay a specialized conference center with no convenient parking, therefore it will become something else.
So far I have heard:
1. Community college
2. Tear it down and do another Avenue
3. Government center (my idea)
4. Outlet mall with smaller tenants - styled after the Merchandise Mart
5. Hotel with some empty classroom buildings between it and the parking lot
6. Great Wolf comes back in 6 months with a scaled down plan that does not require a rezoning - all they need is a site plan to planning Commission. This one gets more real as the pressure to sell increases upon the owner or his lender.
Nothing on that list seems feasible - especially with a 6 to 8 million dollar purchase price and a lot more in renovations. So come on people, let's get some ideas going. All we done so far is shoot down the Great Wolf. That's not enough - time to be creative and suggest something. Doing nothing is not an option..
Live free or die!
The Dolce folks are on record
Saying they would remodel if the Wolfpack was turned down. Maybe they were not being truthful. We will see....College sounds nice, more shopping not so much.
I still say the indoor water park was not going to be the utter catastrophe that many thought...nor the end all be all that a few studies showed..somewhere in the middle is what we would have gotten.
SPY
I agree. The think small mentality may be the slow death of this community.
Just Saying
I've been saying that for years. Think small mentality will be the death of this community if something doesn't change.
The irony is all those who don't want change will not even be here when the city declines but they will be the ones who lead the charge. Just simple cause and effect.
Like everything else that has been done in this city that everyone was against, GW would have gone practically un-noticed and would have created a huge financial injection into our tax base.
DAR&SPY example
I owned a home in Kedron Hills a few years ago. A developer extended the neighborhood and added several high end houses. A request was made to include these homes into the HOA. The financial benefit was significant. It was an obvious win win situation. The folks on the HOA board tried to explain this but were shouted down by a bunch of angry Peachtree City housewives who considered these new homeowners interlopers. It defied logic.so it goes.
Shopping Center is a bad idea
The average person can't even find the place. What bank would approve a loan for a retail space that can't be seen from the main street?
We should have someone on the phone daily with the GA. Dept of Economic Development. They are the people that get the first calls. Become friends and talk to these folks. Take them out to lunch every other week is the way to go.
I have a friend in the Dept of Economic Development. who I meet every other Thursday morning at 6:30 am downtown for breakfast. Our group of 10 people share business information and contacts and we all chase the work. For the cost of a breakfast every other week about $300 a year, I find out a whole lot of information that is useful for my business. It just takes a little work and a smile.
A data center would be a good idea. Too bad we just missed out on the Google data center being planned for Fairburn.
http://www.georgia.org/about-us/global-commerce-contacts/
RWM & new ideas
I agree that some new ideas are needed but relying on the Fayette County govt to resolve PTC problems is a non-starter to me. That's why you have a Mayor & City Council. Personally, you'll never catch me commenting on what goes on inside PTC Limits, reason being I don't live there and it's out of my lane!
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