Georgia Laws - 2012

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Our Lt. Governor, Casey Cagle, has announced his priorities for this year:

Some of his ideas for 'laws':

No new taxes, especially on groceries and tobacco; reduce regulations on business; the federal government needs to come up with a meaningful guest worker program (Georgia agriculture has been hurt by the illegal immigration law). He still is not sure about a Constitutional Amendment effectively criminalizing abortion. (He is pro-life) What do you think? How will the implementation on any of these 'laws' affect FC?

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The state has paid non-compliant day-care centers to the tune of $355 million for the last 4 years.

http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-government/state-paid-day-cares-1388680....

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This is the type of government incompetence that makes me angry. Is this throughout the state of Georgia, or just in certain areas? Disgusting. Working mothers need this assistance throughout our country - but the centers must meet compliance standards for the safety of the children.

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The two state agencies in charge of the money did little to prevent the payments from going into the hands of subpar day cares. In fact, one of the agencies said it didn’t clearly understand the other agency’s scoring system for day cares and did not use the information. And the agency with the rating system wasn’t using it to police its own subsidy program.

Comprehension skills or just plain laziness???

By the way, we rode by Hunters Lane today. Equal opportunity Section 8 housing - well integrated. I feel sorry for the private home owners in the area who have to put up with the slovenly condition of some of the Section 8 apartments. And before the 'race baiter's join in - the yards with trash and autos belonged to both white and black (did not see any Hispanics in the area today). Don't get me wrong, some of the apartment yards were well kept. This is another area where monitoring by government is needed. If we the taxpayers are providing assisted living areas - it should be the responsibility of the renter to maintain the outside of the property - and government agents need to monitor this! Keep it up - or move out!!

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Government Agents

Yep, that's it. We just need more government agents to check on government housing, in government sponsored rental properties, to do what?

Throw them out on the street? I don't think so. I know! We just go hire some more government agents to clean up the place! Then we can hire some more government agents to check on the government agents we hired to clean up the place.

I think I see the logic in your solution DM.

Whatever we do, let's not let them fend for themselves. They might actually go out and get a job. They might earn enough money to buy their own property. Yikes, they wouldn't be dependent on the state! We need to keep them in perpetual poverty so they vote the way we want them to vote. What a beautiful racket.

DM do you often drive through section 8 housing on Sunday afternoons?

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Don't you get it PTCO? WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT - AND THIS MESS REPRESENTS US!! - YOU/ME! If it isn't working, it is because we have turned it over to lazy, incompetent men and women who act at the behest of corporations and big money guys (They just let the big money guys back in the game) Let's hope 60%-80% of us vote in November!!

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Are you that naive?

WE are not the government DM. YOU may be the government, but I am certainly NOT the government. It doesn't represent my views in the least and never will.

At least not in my lifetime.

BTW, Here's news for you, the "big money guys" never went away.

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You're very right, it's integrated but scuzy. Did you see any tennis shoes wrapped around the phone wires?

The issue of government oversight usually begins when other property owners in the area complain loud enough about it. The old squeaking wheel syndrome.

I know about this area as one of my sons had a school mate a few years back that lived in "better" end of that street. I did not like driving through even in broad daylight. But you know, it is what it is.

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We saw church goers on the corner this afternoon - maybe they don't have the 'power' to complain - or maybe no one listens to those from the area. Then, as my husband pointed out, since it is HUD managed, maybe the local 'gov' feels it has no interest, etc. Who knows. Sad. And this is an American thing. I was so sickened at what was 'lounging' on the front lawns, that I didn't look up at the wires. Did see one nice looking young man entering an apartment where the yard was 'clean; and it looked as if the grass would be coming in soon. At least the persons/family there is trying. In Toronto, they had neighborhoods with varied incomes - and all were proud of the streets, and maintained their homes. They didn't appear to put all low income families in one area. Too 'radical' for the states?

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It's an age old problem that exists in some form or another in every corner of this whirling rock we are on.

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Paying Daycare

Let's see: Last 4 yrs Repug gov -check. Last 4 yrs Repug legislature-check. Last 4 yrs getting gov'ment outta business' business - check. Yea, let's get rid of the EPA and Clean Air & Water Acts (by Nixon) and git outta business' business. That's the ticket.

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Cy, non-compliance & loads of cash

What you'll hear/see is a whole buncha "Not my fault" stories! Sounds like lotsa incompetence/ignorance on the part of couple of State Agencies to me and seems to me that some severe penalties or dismissals are in order.

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The essential point is that it's not their money. They don't care.

If it were their money they would spend it wisely, but it costs them nothing, not even their job. If they squander someone else's money.....so what.

Here's the solution, stop all funding to schools, privatize them and sell off all the assets owned by the government to private education companies.

Use the money raised to reduce government debt.

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I see the essential point as some sorry-ass employees and managers who need to get the axe! And if you've listened, you've heard Romney champion getting the Fed Govt out of the education business.

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Govt and Romney

You can forget getting rid of sorry government employees.

As to Mr. Romney, I will predict now that he will lose to Mr. Obama. But in the off chance that I am wrong,a President Romney with a super majority of Republicans will change little.

You see many years ago the Congress abdicated its power to an administrative bureaucracy of clerks, now numbering two million, that pass rules and regulations faster than any group of citizens can follow. In fact, this bureaucracy continues to grow without restraint. Rewarding the few at the expense of the many. It is being added to with each passing administration and Congress. While Mr. Obama may manifestly be the worst in modern memory, he is certainly not the worst in history, nor is this Congress.

No AHG, in my estimation there is nothing to stop the growth of government and its power over the individual. It is something that a few have wanted and it will be all of us that pay the price.

The great American experiment is coming to a close. Our founders knew and attempted to construct a Constitution that would protect us from the natural tendency for power to coalesce. It hasn't worked and there are plenty of people out there that want it not to work.

The loss of individual freedom is the cost of our folly.

Enjoy your Sunday afternoon.

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Wow - the dream of the Communists (And you know what happened/is happening to that dream.)

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Our founders knew and attempted to construct a Constitution that would protect us from the natural tendency for power to coalesce.

How can you accomplish anything without some compromise? Our Constitution was written by men with different concepts of 'freedom and liberty' and through compromise wrote The Constitution of the United States. When one gets idiots in power who feel that in a group there is only one way (their way) - and refuse to compromise - then they want a dictatorship - not a democracy. I think our youth, being exposed to history and the ideas of many, will continue our democracy - with' freedom and justice for all'. Our democracy is being sorely tested now - and the world is watching. We have the money, the military power, etc., but we are losing the respect we once had because of some bad decisions made by those who ignored the Constitution. Stay tuned.

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DM - Misquote

You misquote I think, it's "The Dreams of My Father" is it not?

Look DM, I am not going to get into this again with you, but there are no different concepts of "freedom and liberty". First, freedom and liberty are the same thing. Second, dictatorships by definition are forms of government that spring from centralizing power in a "benevolent" government. Finally, democracy is the first step toward tyranny of the majority and dictatorship. Democracy is rule by the mob for the benefit of the mob. You know what we have today in our government.

Our youth is exposed to the history that the state wants them to be exposed to, nothing more and nothing less. The state doesn't want youth to learn history or understand the philosophy of a representative republic protecting Life, Liberty, and Property on the contrary the state wants to minimize history curriculum.

Stay tuned? For what?

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The loss of individual freedom is the cost of our folly.

PTCO - I just got my 'individual freedom' in all states in this country some 40 years ago. I'm not about to let some who have never been without this freedom take it away. Stay tuned.