Haddix in action - please watch video

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If you want to see your elected Mayor Haddix in action, please watch the video of the Peachtree City Council Meeting tonight (November 3, 2011). What you want to watch is a timeline between 31:30 and 33:30 toward the end. It is at www.peachtree-city.org/videos (or http://livestre.am/16ZIN). In this two minute clip, everything you need to know about why our Council is in chaos will be clear. Hizzoner is a bully who is rude and talks over people when they dare oppose him. It is also evident in this brief two minutes that he hasn't a clue as to what the appropriate rules of order are at a City Council Meeting. Also interesting is Haddix's stated reason for his protest - it is election time. However, the Mayor's seat is not up for election for two more years! Talk about evidence of how important it is to him to get his buddy Allen elected... incredible. Please review and see for yourself.

To better understand the reason the Mayor is so adamant in this video that Council Member Learnard not be allowed to reveal the DAPC budget information - that is described below:

In a blog on The Citizen, Haddix was supporting Dienhart's campaign and the Development Authority of Peachtree City. Haddix accused Council Member Imker of lying and his quote is "Just like he claimed, at the Debate, Council alloted $7K to DAPC. Totally false claim. It was their money carried over from last year because they didn't have enough to keep meeting and do anything. It was NOT City money given to them."

It is no wonder Haddix did not want this to come out or be allowed for discussion. It appears he was either misleading the citizens or just does not understand the budget. It was confirmed in this video that DAPC was funded and paid NEW MONEY of over $7,000 this budget year. DAPC has achieved nothing for many year's so this is just lost taxpayer dollars.

It is also interesting to note Haddix's stated reason for his protest - it is election time. The Mayor did not want this issue aired and claimed this discussion of DAPC to be political and associated with the election. Therefore, his position was it should not take place in the City Council Chambers. It looks to me like Council Member Learnard was just making sure that the citizens were properly informed and given directions on how to access the budget so everyone can check for themselves.

But it is interesting to note that Haddix was instrumental in a DAPC meeting held in City Council Chambers on October 17th. This meeting was held out by Haddix's chosen candidates, Allen and Dienhart, as the greatest thing since slice bread and each voiced his support of DPAC if elected. If this was not a political meeting held at City Hall then I do not know what would constitute a political meeting. But what a disappointment - the DAPC story was a repeat of a study released two years ago and in the two years DAPC not done anything to put a proposed detailed plan in place. I understand hizzhonor gets lost but you would think Allen and Dienhart would do their homework.

But at least we know why hizzhonor did not want to allow this to come out - another Haddix (new adjective here). Departure from reality seems to be the norm for hizzhonor so all of his claims need to be fact checked and called out each time. He has always assumed that his statements would not be checked and has gotten away with a lot of misdirection and misleading statements. Note to Haddix - all statements will be fact checked.

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Kudos For Ms Leonard!

For standing her ground in setting the record straight concerning falsehoods posted by the Mayor against Mr Imker. Ms Leonard skillfully laid out factual information concerning DAPC funding and a police records management system that our Mayor claimed to have been brought before council.

Censuring the mayor earlier this year has proven fruitless, now it's time he be cited for an ethics violation for publishing false and malicious statements during an election!

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HADDIX IN ACTION

Mike

Council Member Learnard did an excellent job in ensuring that the citizens has factual information. She is an asset to the City. It is unfortunate that we have someone like Haddix that she has to work with.

You may be right regarding ethics. This is just one of a few statements where there is documented evidence that truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth is not being aired.

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Wow! You tell him, Kim!

I especially love the part where she barely pauses for a deep cleansing breath after her victory over the amatureish censorship attempt and goes directly into her presentation. This is someone who belongs on city council. Thank you Kim. You are a fine leader and I hope you stay after Haddix is gone.

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Kim Is Honorary Ninja!

Our Ms. Leonard wiped the floor with Hizzoner! Yowwwwwwwwch!

Editor Cal, can you please publicize our Mike King write-in campaign in the name of democracy!

Perhaps Madmike can write letter to the editor telling the world that there is a better choice than Jorge!

This video debacle by the mayor reflects extremely badly on Jorge and Allen!

We need to keep both of them out of City Hall!

Vote NO on Yard Gnome Clone Council Members in PTC!

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Mike King write-in? What for Ninja

Have I missed something? I was in FL last 2 weeks.

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Muddy, Mike King Write-In

because Jorge Deadheart has shown that he has not a lick of sense, common or otherwise! He is running unopposed, so the only way to keep him out is a write-in effort!

People that go to warm FLA without checking the blogs should have to do some kind of penance! Physically attend the next council meeting perhaps!

You think the Falcons will avoid falling into a trap on Sunday? I hope so!

Vote No On Yard Gnome Clone Council Candidates in PTC!

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Writing King in when I vote next week

Seems like a real good idea to me. I get the idea after reading some of what I missed.
No internet or even a computer at Mama's house. That's a good excuse but attending a council meeting might be fun now that some lines have been drawn in the sand.

Falcons are playing the Colts without Manning. What could possibly go wrong?

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Preemptively de-gnoming the garden

Harry Potter fans will understand. Great idea Ninja. I think I will cast a write-in vote for Mike King. He doesn't look (or more importantly, act) like a garden gnome!

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BZBEE

I didn't have the Potter gnomes in mind when composing my post, but now that you mention it, it does fit! From Wikipedia:

"In J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter series, gnomes are pests that inhabit the gardens of witches and wizards. They are small creatures with heads that look like potatoes on small stubby bodies. Gnomes are considered harmless but mischievous. They are quite durable. They are often thrown great distances by witches and wizards but return to the gardens, completely unharmed."

Vote No on Garden Gnome Clone Candidates in PTC!

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Hey Ninja

Maybe to celebrate Election Day you could persuade the honorable Scots-Irish General Forrest to wear a Gnome costume. He could stand on the corner of 54/74 waving a sign that says "Vote for Mike King!", kinda like the "We Buy Gold" guy.

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Ninja

I voted no to Garden Gnome Clone Candidates. Tried to vote for Mike King a few times but I could only get 500 votes in.

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Great Randy!

I voted another 217 times yesterday myself, putting me close to 600 in all! My sword hand is getting tired! I am busing in some anti-yard-gnome stealth voters from Northern California, as I will be tied up getting the yard gnome costumes and signs ready for a little party at 54/74!

Gosh, how dumb can dumb get around here! I thought PTC was full of smart people like Mad Mike and his 202 IQ--that is why I moved here! Now I am seeing the cerebral underbelly of PTC through this election--make it stop!

We might come out better just appointing two random people from Wal-Mart parking lot rather than allowing A&D close to City Hall! It's already time for a change, and the election hasn't even happened yet!

Have you ever seen two candidates and a sitting elected official shoot themselves in the foots so many times before an election! If it weren't so hilarious, it would be pitiful!

General Forrest would never let such near his regiment!

Keep PTC Free of Yard Gnomes and Clones!

Write-In Mike King for PTC Council!

Bring Back Popeyes to PTC!

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Ninja Guy...

Falcons by 27. Mudcat punishment: toothpicks between the eyelids for 24 hours looking at a candid bathing suit shot of the mayor on the beach during his "free" trip to Florida!

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Oh, Mikey, only you would be thinking of candids of the mayor in

a bathing suit! Much as you try, you just can't shake that bromance can you? Even tho' I see you now have one going with Mike King, unrequited, of course, as all seem to be with you. Then there is the on-going one with Imker as well as six or seven others. You seem to be an equal opportunity bromancer. I can just see you in your 'wife-beater' t-shirt, low rider jeans, gold chain with large Chrysler medallion hanging down you hairless chest (your words not mine) as you stand on the corner of 54/74 with your 'Vote For' sign held high over your head.

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MYTMITE

Now we know the real truth behind those walking signs.

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Hey Mudcat...

Where you been??? Haven't seen you around lately.

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Florida Mike. And I am writing in Mike King

Visiting Momma in The Villages is where I was. Good place. They may have more golf carts than we do.
I love Mike King. Stud muffin. And I will write him in against Jorge.

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Great MCat

Glad your back. I wish Panama City Beach would get with the golf cart program but I can't seem to figure out what the rules are. No paths, but you see them all over so I don't know if they are legal or not.
I will leave it up to you ladies to determine Mr. King's stud muffin status but he is damn smart and he has good ideas about our city. Hope he takes another real shot at council/mayor one day.

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No Wonder the Mikes Love Each other

No Wonder the Mikes Love Each other---- they both have the same lack of success on anger management. Oh well.

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Gee Mr. PTCTAXPAYER

If deception in Government does not bother you, then maybe you are not paying enough tax to the City.

How is that big house and fancy car Mr. P?

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Deception? The only

Deception? The only deception is the Mikes showering at the BOQ. If you think I have a big house and a fancy car, Randy, you must live under a bridge with a few of the other dirty dozen. My take on all of this=== they are all bums and should be thrown out. You guys wanna Kimmie mayor? She oughta be tossed for her comments on the prayer alone. What a bunch of bums.

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Mike King, Mike LaTella and

Mike King, Mike LaTella and the rest of you sound like cheerleaders in an echo chamber. There is little objectivity on these city issues.

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Sounds like a change of plans MUDCAT

MUDCAT

It sounds like NUK and Ninja have been intimated and are going to the dark side. No votes for Mike King :-)

Do you think Gonzilla can get into the council room?

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MUDCAT - good call

MUDCAT

Good call on Council Member Learnard - she is a real professional in every way. Now if hizzhonor would just decide to pack it in and go fishing, I think Council Member Learnard would make a fine Mayor.

Mike King - write-in Post 2

Kim Learnard - should be Mayor

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HADDIX IN ACTION - PLEASE WATCH VIDEO WOW!

Good information Randy and a perfect example of why the Mayor is in the wrong line of business. If there is one thing that position requires is civility and understanding. No wonder everyone hates him on council!
Not to bring up a controversial subject, but I take offense to the way Haddix was talking to a lady. He could show a little respect, but then he isn't a Southern Gentleman.

ONE TERM ONLY HADDIX!

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HADDIX IN ACTION

Mike

It was better in person but the video tells the story. Hopefully more and more are starting to understand what a HADDIX (adj) is. For the good of the City, all statements need to be fact checked

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Randy: Everything u say is true, but...

There is a contingent here that might be described as "Don's Dirty Dozen Acolytes" who will refuse to go watch the video themselves or admit that it's very revealing about what has been posted here vs. the actual truth.

It's not much different with some of those that also could care less if someone like Steve Brown burned an American flag and wanted to rename FC the People's Republic of Fayette County and institute communism instead. There's a certain percentage of lemmings that need to worship some human being like he/she was a deity and could care less about anything that person does because they are 100% into the Cult of Personality and where they stand on any issue matters not one whit; it's all about the "personality."

Don't expect someone here to suddenly wake up tomorrow and say "wow..Haddix posted something that was totally false about the DAPC budget and also the PD records software!" That won't happen. Somehow, it will all be Imker's fault.

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HADDIX INCRIMINATING VIDEO

You are right for sure Nuk! Thhose that love Haddix will turn a blind eye, but I am seeing those numbers dwindle each and every day. Months ago, there was a small minority that would support Haddix blindly here, now very seldom. Perhaps Cal eliminating some of those fake monikers reduced his biggest fans on here... the Mayor himself.

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NUK - Allen is dodging in the Fayette News

Allen is saying he misspoke and his attacks on Imker were misinterpreted, Now where have we heard that before?

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I understand almost everything on the mayor's video

except one very obvious thing. Why is a look at the budget an election issue? The budget is the city's budget funded with taxpayer dollars and to me it is that simple. If council is not allowed to discuss or review the budget - what are they there for?

And even if we get some convoluted answer like it is an election issue because one or more of the candidates brought it up as a campaign issue, what about the candidates discussing extra police cars, cart paths, big boxes, etc? Are they not allowed to discuss any of that? I guess in Haddixland a candidate could talk about everything the council does and council would not be allowed to meet until after election. Of course if that is true, council members should not be allowed to express individual opinions in the newspaper or in the blogs. Right?

Like I said, I understand the rest - the stupidity, the lack of knowledge about rules of order, the bullying behavior, even the not-so-hidden agenda of bringing DAPC back from the ashes by getting Mr. Allen elected. Wow, what an embarrassing display by a silly little man. Another censure is in order because he violated his oath of office.

Why can't Kim be mayor instead?

Memo to George - need any more incentive to back away from Haddix? And Allen? And DAPC? Kim and Ted gave you a perfect demonstration how to put him in his place. You and Eric and the ladies can run the city and do whatever you think is best with only the minor annoyance of his presence at meetings. With luck he will get frustrated and quit.

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Only 450 early voters at noon today

And there were 500 write-ins for Mike King. :-)

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Write-In Mike King

Let's say Mike King does win. Would it be legal? I was just doing some quick Wikipedia reading on write-ins and the article suggested a few reason why the election might not stand.

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Getting there Randy...

I was number 202 on Wednesday. When they first told me that I thought they had some machine that could figure out my IQ as I entered.

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MadMike are you kidding? Your IQ 202-most likely your

blood pressure. Be sure to let us know how the surgery turns out----you know, the one where they remove your head from up Imker's posterior.

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Love you Mighty Mite...

Long, long time. :)

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HADDIX IN ACTION - PART 2

You will also note in this video that it is now in the public record that the Council never voted on the PUBLIC SAFETY Records Management System. That budget request was pulled by City staff.

You can also note at the beginning of the video that the Peachtree City Police Department was given an award by the governor's office - looks like they were #1 in technology FOR NORTH AMERICA. This award was voted to PTC at a conference covering all of North America. So much for Allen's concern that we are losing public safety because the Records Management System ($250,000) was not approved.

Allen's comment that Imker voted against the Records System is only in the playground of Allen's imagination. But the truth is that he probably just got this fiction from Haddix and we all know what happens there.

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RWM - we can't be that lucky

Robert

I doubt he will resign. But Mike King may have a pretty good thought with the ethics thing. I can point to several instances of "departure from reality" backed by documented proof.

Good idea Mike King - Mike King write-in for post 2

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RWM - we can't be that lucky

Robert

I doubt he will resign. But Mike King may have a pretty good thought with the ethics thing. I can point to several instances of "departure from reality" backed by documented proof.

Good idea Mike King - Mike King write-in for post 2

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Wait, wait, wait Randy...

So let me get this straight. Your expounding on the details hurts my head. I am going to recap in my small brain and see if I have this right.

1. The mayor has continuously insisted that the $7.5K in DAPC funds was rollover from last year and not from 2011 funding. Truth is that the $7.5K is from this year so the Mayor was lying? Imagine that.

2. A big founding issue for Allen was that Imker didn't vote on funding a new police records system as an indicator that Imker doesn't support police department. So now you tell me that the old system that Allen thinks needs replacing just won an award for being technologically superior?

3. What's all this talk about an Ethics Violation on Haddix. What are the laws about a Mayor getting involved in the election of council members? I need to know the details on that. I thought that since Haddix starts and ends each day with a lie and he is still in office that there must not be any ethical laws regarding how he acts. Is there one that will get him out of office? Where do I sign a petition?

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MADMIKE - Technology Award

MADMIKE

I think the award was for overall technology - that would mean that the records management system was just a part of it. But if it was that bad, I am pretty sure they would not have won first place.

Also, they won an overall award of 3rd place for forces their size in North America. Pretty darn decent if you ask me.

This is just another example of Allen listening to Haddix without checking his facts. What is pretty clear is

Allen = Haddix.

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Dupe

duplicate

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MADMIKE re Ethics

MADMIKE

I am not sure what the rules are re ethics but it sure seems like those rules should cover some of this stuff. I think Mike King is looking into this.

Mr. King - any update?

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HADDIX IN ACTION - Question for the Board

If you watch the video of the meeting last night, Haddix pretty well stated that he thought DAPC was an election topic. That was his "excuse" for trying to keep Council Member Learnard from trying to inform citizens of how to view the budget for themselves.

I put in writing to Todd Strickland with copies to Haddix, Allen, and Dienhart that I thought their October 17th DAPC at City Hall violated the rule of no election campaigning at City Hall. I suggested that the meeting be changed until after the election.

The appearance is that they were probably involved in using City Hall for election purposes. The question is, if this is true can they all be charged with an ethical violation?

Any insight from anyone knowledgeable would be appreciated.

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HADDIX ETHICS VIOLATION

A little bird just flew by my window and told me that Ethic Complaints are to be filed by citizens. The policy is on the city website from what I have been told.
You might think that is no big deal, but since I am on a flight back from Dallas and some 30K feet above the earth, the fact that a bird can keep up at 600 mph+ while screaming an audible message through two double-thick panes of glass a little smaller than a toilet seat... that's one hell of a bird I tell ya.

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Where's Haddix And Dienhart?

I've been on the golf course all day contributing to the Cattle Barron Ball folks charity, great time and kudos to all the organizers.

There seems to be a good deal of blogging regarding the mayor and a possible ethics violation (Not that his Honor would prevaricate, mind you) and not a peep from the disillusion one nor his prospective aide-de-camp Mr Dienhart. Could it be they're in a retreat mode?

Could it be that someone finally convinced them that it is much wiser to keep their mouths shut and be thought fools than to blog and remove all doubt?

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Where's Allen

This has obviously shown that Allen has not done his homework - where is he and why doesn't he "clarify" what he really meant? Isn't that the way hizzhonor usually handles it when caught?

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Haddix, Dienhart, Allen, and the Cause of Their Angst

My guess Mr. King is that the three of them have finally realized that all their disorganized and elementary maneuvers, intended to sway this election so that the three of them can become the new majority "Scheme Team", has been filled with so many blunders that they look like three monkeys trying to make love to a football at the same time. They have been "hoisted by their own petard" as Shakespeare would say. Here is what has transpired:

1. Dienhart writes a Letter to the Editor professing his love for DAPC thus reflecting his support of Haddix's favorite pet project. He get's blasted here on the blogs for completing the conversion to the Mayor's top apostle. Dienhart tries to convince us here that he is not aligned with the Mayor at all. Just as he is getting the words out of his mouth, here comes Haddix to the rescue to bail out poor "Georgie-Porgie-Pudding-Cry" adding the final touches of the aforementioned apostle conversion. Dienhart realizes this, and gets aggravated at the Mayor for blowing his cover and proving the existence of the alignment.

2. Meanwhile Dienhart, without having even taking his first breath as a council member, decides his support is the magic ingredient Allen needs to beat Imker. So he writes another Letter to the Editor, this time endorsing Allen for Post 1. But he makes the fatal mistake of assuming that the mild and pleasant mannerisms (I call that professionalism) of Kim Learnard and Vanessa Fleisch are a sign of weakness, so he proceeds to put words in their mouth as to their preference for working with Allen over Imker. He stuck his hand in the wrong bees' nests with that one, and Kim and Vanessa come back with letters of their own, less than a week before the election, with glowing endorsements of Imker, with a deserved spanking of Dienhart for full measure... letters that certainly wouldn't have been written at all had it not been for the endorsement letter by Dienhart.

3. So now Allen, who was simply trying to hang in there as the obvious hand-picked candidate of a very unpopular Mayor, has to be thinking, "Damn George, with friends like you, who needs enemies! Thanks for completely derailing my slim chances in this campaign. You owe me $175 for my registration fee and $183 for my campaign signs.

So at the end of the day, Dienhart is mad at the Mayor, Allen is mad at Dienhart, and the Mayor is well, just mad. His "Scheme Team" is going down the toilet, and all three of them have fingerprints on the handle.

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Good summary madmike

Add the mayor's bumbling the meeting Thursday night and you have the history of an aborted campaign for new 3 stooges to become our version of Frady, Horgan, Hearn. Good that we avoided that.

It really is a shame that Dienhart is now coming into office as tainted goods and Allen has lost all credibility. I'm sure they are both nice people, but as the saying goes, you are judged by the company you keep.

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Actually Mike,

Your campaign has turned into a massive personal attack against me. So I'm done. This is my last post here. I wanted a open forum to communicate with my future constituents. Unfortunately, a few of you forgot how to behave like adults. I have faith the people of Peachtree City will see the massive personal attacks on myself and Steve by "Team Imker". I don't run from anyone or anything, but there is no reasoning with you. You drew a line in the sand and assigned people positions, not based on facts or their actions, but based upon your feelings for the mayor, and your calculations on how it would make your point. People see through that, and I'm done fanning the flames. You and your 5 Team Imker friends can continue to distort what I have said and cherry pick sentences out of context. It means nothing to those that actually take the time to research the topics you talk about. In the end, I can only say that it is time for some anger management Mad Mike, but I have a feeling you already know that.

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George - please correct this error

George

You mention the 5 team Imker members. Please correct that to the 5 Team PTC Better Government spokespersons. I actually have a pretty long list of concerned citizen's.

This group will not go away regardless of who wins. The concern is the disrespect of the City through misinformation and putting the City in fiscal harms way. Using open records all City activity will be monitored by this group and any misinformation communicated to the City citizens.

If you or any elected official is truly working for the best interest of the City, you will find this group ready to support you in every way. If you are not and conflicts of interest or the appearances of conflict in interest are detected, you will find this group ready to call you on it.

So far you have not demonstrated any reason you would be an asset to the City. If your approach changes, you may even find this group useful in that all just want a truthful government that works in the best interest of the City and not an individual.

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George - please correct this error

George

You mention the 5 team Imker members. Please correct that to the 5 Team PTC Better Government spokespersons. I actually have a pretty long list of concerned citizen's.

This group will not go away regardless of who wins. The concern is the disrespect of the City through misinformation and putting the City in fiscal harms way. Using open records all City activity will be monitored by this group and any misinformation communicated to the City citizens.

If you or any elected official is truly working for the best interest of the City, you will find this group ready to support you in every way. If you are not and conflicts of interest or the appearances of conflict in interest are detected, you will find this group ready to call you on it.

So far you have not demonstrated any reason you would be an asset to the City. If your approach changes, you may even find this group useful in that all just want a truthful government that works in the best interest of the City and not an individual.

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Dienhart = Loser

How ironic, George! You are accusing madmike of personal attacks yet your reaction and response is nothing more than a personal attack on the people making the accusations. This is so typical of someone who is guilty as charged and unable to dispute the charges or defend their position. When you can't, attack the messenger and his/her credibility. The fact is you have misled the citizens of PTC by alleging you are independent and your own man. Yet as the layers have been peeled back the past few weeks, it is clear beyond a shadow of a doubt that you and Allen have formed an alliance with Donnie Darko. And hey, if that's what you two want to do that's fine! Happens all the time in politics! But don't expect folks to continue to believe the lie. And one other thing.....be careful who you get in bed with...megalomaniacs like Donnie Darko love to seduce their prey but at some point when someone comes along he believes is of more use to him than you, he will turn on you. Trust me, it's just a matter of time but it will happen sooner or later. Vote Mike King - write in candidate for Post 2.

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Jorge, If You Had A Lick

of sense you would know there is no team Imker! I have never met or spoken to the man nor do I plan too! I would bet most other bloggers have never met him either!

Anyone that has read the blogs would know that my sole purpose here is to unmask and make fun of stupid posts/ideas, of which you have given us regular bloggers many!

I think the Falcons will cover the 7.5 point spread over Indy. What do you or the Mayor or Steve have to say on that?

Also, I have come up with a new campaign slogan for you and your team!

Vote Dienheart, Allen, Haddix (AKA Ghidorah)

One Body, Three Brains, Bad Ideas!

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I have an idea George

Simply to clear up the confusion about whether or not you are a dishrag for our mayor, why don't you just take your name off the ballot and run again in the special election they will need to have. That way you could be on a ballot with Steve Allen, Mike King and others.

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MUDCAT - interesting idea

That way George would be elected, not just unopposed.

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The Team Imker Conspiracy!
GeorgeDienhart wrote:

Your campaign has turned into a massive personal attack against me. So I'm done. This is my last post here. I wanted a open forum to communicate with my future constituents. Unfortunately, a few of you forgot how to behave like adults. I have faith the people of Peachtree City will see the massive personal attacks on myself and Steve by "Team Imker".

First, if this is truly your "last post" here, I'll be totally shocked. People have been saying this line of "taking my ball and going home" for years on the internetz and always show right back up, so you can at least take some solace in the fact that it's another campaign promise you will be breaking any day now. You know, to go along with how you want City Council to be professional and act like adults. Or that you weren't a toadie of Don Haddix when you certainly have shown otherwise very quickly. It took you less than a month to break that one with flying colors, but I guess it doesn't count since you're not officially elected yet.

Next, the "Team Imker" bit is pathetic. Anytime there is a group of people opposed to someone else who makes a helluva noise and is all hat, no cattle, that someone else yells "conspiracy" or in FC, "it's bankers and developers!" Get a clue. It's not that the masses LOVE Eric Imker, it's that they can't stand a bunch of BS from you, the Mayor, and Steve Allen thrown at someone most feel is doing a pretty good job. You don't see the alleged Team Imker people whining about some conspiracy against Imker do you? No, what we see instead is a very pathetic implication that Imker may have known about the Greenbelt/Larry issue from you.

I'd say "good riddance," but I'll know you'll be back, and there is no "IF" about that.

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Team Ghidorah!

The mayor has convinced me with his latest post that all opposing him are wrong and out to get him! Therefore, I am swinging my support to Team Ghidorah (Haddix, Allen, and Dienheart). In appreciation of my sudden sense of clarity, they have appointed me, the Ninja Guy, as their faux campaign manager!

I have updated my blog profile pic to reflect my shift of allegiance from Team Imker to Team Ghidorah! Check it out!

Also, I stayed up all night working on a new campaign slogan that encompasses all three members of Team Ghidorah!

I think we can take this thing--watch out Mike King, the fire is hot!

Three Heads, One Purpose, All Bad!

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LOL Ninja Dude!

Love it! A perfect picture of Team Haddix. :-)

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Who defeats Ghidorah?

GODZILLA does every time! Mike King might not get my vote now as I may have to write in Godzilla instead!

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Nooky Nook Nuk and Godzilla

Yes, I am aware of Godzilla's unbeaten record against Ghidora! However, I think the three-headed beast is overdue for a win--that's another reason why I shifted my allegiance to The Three! It will take all of my Ninja skill to break into City Hall tonight to dispose of all my 672 write-in votes for MK! I might even touch the mayoral chair with an un-gloved hand while in there!

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Ninja: Nooooooo

I know how destructive Ghidora can be...I can only imagine the centerpiece of City Hall-the fountain-will be in ruins, along with the "plaza" and Library. Good news though.....no parking problems Monday morning to return those books!

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Nook the Book Socialist

I say good riddance to the plaza (but not the fountain as it was donated by Japanese companies who only promote peace and prosperity for our fine and pristine city!), as it is government owned and therefore a tool of the socialists!

The Plaza's destruction in the coming battle between Ghidora and Godzilla will provide a great project to be undertaken by DAPC! The newly engorged authority can issue bonds to establish on the ruins of the plaza the world's largest collection of yard gnomes, which will attract visitors from all over the world (much like Barbie Beach over in Sharpsburg), who will spend their converted euros, yen, yuan, rials, pesos, rubles, and other currencies at our local establishments!

The revenue from the Yard Gnome project will be more than enough to pay off the bonds and could even create a situation like in Alaska, where citizens get checks from the government on oil rights!

Dispense with Plan to Stay, the new city slogan will be:

PTC: Yard Gnomes is our Petroleum! Get Some!

Books-A-Million will set up a store to take over the provision of reading material for you and others unable to shake the paper habit, but at a fair-market and unregulated price! Coffee extra!

All will yield to Ghidora eventually! Resistance is Futile!

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Ninja: LOL

Once again you've proven to be, to paraphrase the punk band The Clash many years ago, "the only poster that really matters." Great stuff!

Git er dun, Falcons!

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Good job NUK

It looks like you "cabled" together a win for those Falcons.

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NUK - there is hope

I just saw Mothra coming into town - Ghidora is dust.

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Assemble all Monsters to save PTC!

Must fight the triple-threat of Obfuscation, Ignorance and Paranoia on City Council by no later than tomorrow at 7pm!

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Classic stuff Ninja Guy...

too funny.

FALCONS UP 7- ZIP!

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George, I understand...

your frustration, I really do. But you are blaming the messenger here. You have done more to harm your reputation by your own deeds than I or anyone else could do on these blogs. Allen's campaign hit is simply collateral damage.
When you first announced your intent to run, and before you knew you would be unopposed, I challenged you here on these blogs as to whether you were aligned with Haddix. You convinced me, as well as others here, that you weren't a Haddix fan, you had indeed criticized his big mouth in your articles (which I confirmed was true) and would stand toe-to-toe with the Mayor to fight for the constituents and what you believed was right. I took you at your word with a warning that to walk step-in-step with a very unpopular mayor would be political suicide (I told Allen the same thing). Instead you dove head first into Haddix's cesspool party by:

1. Supporting the DAPC (the one fruitless agenda item the Mayor will not let die even after sitting council voted to defund it); you didn't passively support this George, you took part in the rally-cap extravaganza organization and then wrote a letter to the editor about how great it went even though only 30 people, mostly city workers and reporters, attended;
2. Criticizing Imker as being the biggest problem in council and deflecting blame from the Mayor, even though you have yet to sit at the table and those that will remain on council Fleisch and Learnard) wholeheartedly endorse Imker in his re-election bid;
3. Publicly supporting Steve Allen, the hand-picked candidate for Council by Mayor Haddix, who has shown he is blindly led by Haddix and his stretch of the truth (no need to look further than Today's front page of the other local paper to see where Allen has been proved to be making false claims about Imker's record).

Tell me where in that assessment George, I have misrepresented anything or as you said "distort what I have said and cherry pick sentences out of context." Those are simply the facts my friend and any reasonable person who knows them understands that once you realized you were running unopposed you no longer felt like you had to hide this unfettered alignment with the Mayor. And just like the Mayor, you expect everyone to believe what comes out of your mouth rather than what the facts tell us otherwise.

Let me ask you this George. If you wanted to turn the tide here some, and show us your even-handed distribution of praise and condemnation, why haven't you said a peep about what the Mayor did at the council meeting last night in his heated exchange with Kim Learnard? What happened to your demand for civility on council? You have had no problem bringing down your verbal displeasure with Eric "the bully" Imker at every opportunity... but no comment on Haddix tried to bully his way over Kim on Thursday night? That would have been a much more impressive "last" post than trying to prove a conspiracy theory here and cry about a "massive personal attack."

I'll finish with this George since you addressed me specifically in your blog. Let me tell you where I am coming from. I have absolutely no political or financial motivation in these matters whatsoever. I have never run for political office and never intend to do so. I have been a 35+ year resident of Peachtree City, my parents loved this town and so do I. I am now raising my family here because I believe it is the best place in the country to do so. This is my home. My political involvement up to this point has been to keep informed and then voting in every election. That is it. I have been a member on these blogs for over 5 years but you can count on your toes and fingers how many posts I have made up until this election. My only reason for getting involved at this time is that I truly believe that Mayor Haddix is a threat to the future of this city if he has his way. I know Eric Imker only from my requests to council for golf cart access in certain areas. In meeting him a few times I believe his motivation is to use his expertise to better our community. The Mayor has demonstrated to me he is motivated by what is better for the Mayor and not for this city. If ever Eric Imker shows that he no longer has this city as his best interest in his position, I will turn on him on a dime and he knows it. So despite your wildest fantasies, there are no smoke-filled backroom deals going on here George. Sorry.
This is my last post as well... at least until tomorrow. :)

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Mr. Dienhart

No one is out to get you. But when you started your campaign you stated that you would be your own man. You haven't yet stepped into office and you have already started to make claims that current council members had to take time out of thier day to correct. Buck Up Marine. Research the issues YOURSELF, learn the facts, listen to your constituants, and keep your comments out of the blogs.

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Write-In

I am not sure how a write-in winner is handled. Maybe the best approach is to get Mike King the votes and then let him work with elections to get the Crown fitted.

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Actually George

While it may seem personal to you, you still don't get it. This is about fiscal sanity and not getting Peachtree City into a more precarious financial position than it is now. It is also about integrity.

I was at the October 17th DAPC presentation regarding the Village Centers. I heard your glowing review of the presentation and watched as Steve Allen's head bobbed in agreement.

And it amazed me:

First, why were you not bothered by the obvious lapse of integrity in the obvious use of City Hall for campaign purposes? There was no other reason for this meeting at this time. Thus the integrity concerns.

Second, why were you not asking the obvious questions? What would be the cost of the plan presented (hint: never mentioned)? What would be the benefit to the City if such a concept was implemented (hint: never mentioned)? What would be the return on investment (hint: never mentioned)? What would an implementation timeline look like (hint: never mentioned)?

You like to attribute this to Imker and you still don’t get it. There are quite a few of us that appreciate what Eric has done to help get the City’s financial house in order before the Mayor had driven us into bankruptcy. But what you don’t understand is that our concern is what is best for the City.

When we see an elected position disrespected by the person that was elected through misinformation and misdirection to the taxpayer, then that is where quite a few of us have drawn the line. Our support really has nothing to do with Imker per se except at this time he is obviously the best choice for the City as he has proven his ability to identify and solve budget issues that could get the City in a lot of trouble. He has also demonstrated that he does his homework and offers detailed and well thought out plans for discussion.

Now there have been questions that Haddix selected you and Allen to run so that he could control the Council and bring back DAPC. A thought that has been circulated is that he needs a job and having you and Allen there would allow him to be the EDC for DAPC. If that is true, it makes sense now why he and his wife ran the last EDC out of town.

But that would probably mean that DAPC with its borrowing power would now run up million dollar projects in a City that is mostly build out. And if it doesn’t work then the taxpayers get stuck just like we got stuck for the Tennis Center debt (wasn't that over $1M?).

George, our concern is not Imker. It is that you and Allen have only attacked or offered motherhood and apple pie goals without showing ONE solid detailed plan that was researched and well thought out of what you would do to address the City’s financial problems or address growth and development or achieve those motherhood and apple pie goals. Additionally, just taking Haddix’s position on DAPC without even the most minimal research makes you and Allen suspect as viable candidates or office holders.

Never get confused George. It is not about Imker – it about the concern for what you will do to the City. So far there has been little offered by you or Allen that is substantive. Thus our concerns.

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Ninja - they don't get it

Ninja, it is interesting how they want to characterize this as attacks on them or support of Imker.

WOW - look at the Allen and Dienhart articles and letters published in The Citizen. Only attacks - NO PLAN !!! But they want to project themselves as the victims - another Haddix trait.

Dienhart got careless and pushed the envelope forcing Council Members Fleisch and Learnard to correct the words he tried to put in their mouths. And Allen and Dienhart took Haddix's positions without any personal research and this video shows that they were trying to mislead the citizens. If Allen and Dienhart cannot do basic research on their own what the heck is going to happen to this City if they happen to get into office (write-in Mike King for Post 2).

The truth is a lot of us support Imker - but only for what he has accomplished. This City could actually be facing bankruptcy if it were not for Learnard, Fleisch, and Imker. And the Council Women make it pretty clear that Imker's budget experience and skills have played a big role in keeping our City out of harms way.

And what Allen and Dienhart do not realize is that if they produced any semblance of a plan that would benefit the City, a lot of us would be supporting them. Instead all they have offered is motherhood and apple pie positions such as home values, safety, harmony, etc. NEVER A PLAN AS TO HOW TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE MOTHERHOOD AND APPLE PIE GOALS. Do they take the citizens for fools?

And as far as harmony, it looks like Dienhart pulled the Council Women's last nerve by trying to put words in their mouths. Besides, democracy is not harmony. It is the passionate exchange of ideas and beliefs and sometimes it is necessarily messy.

So much for my venting. These folks offer nothing but attacks and then want to be the victims when challenged by facts and the truth. It is a crazy world.

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FRONT PAGE of PRINTED CITIZEN NEWSPAPER

There is a great article on the front page of Saturday's printed Citizen paper regarding this issue. I cannot find it in the online version of the paper.

I appreciate that this situation is aired by The Citizen. Media is the fourth branch of government and bringing such situations to light is a great public service.

And I do appreciate their diplomacy. I think everyone is now seeing through the misinformation and mischaracterizations by Haddix, Allen, and Dienhart so no need to beat the issue to death.

And yes, the records system is 13 years old and probably needs to be considered in a budget cycle when time get a little better. But what was not printed is that the City Police Department was just awarded, by the Governor's office, 1st place in TECHNOLOGY for ALL OF NORTH AMERICA. Maybe we can wait another year of two to spend that $250,000 so that we can get out of the current budget crisis?

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Haddix: Boyett and Crew

Boyett, you do not speak for my reasoning for ruling out of order. Nor, in fact, have YOU done fact checks on your claims, like all that nonsense on Authorities that I refuted and you did not respond.

Fact checking is not asking Imker to tell you want he wants said.

The Article declares Learnard did not tell the truth.

She said the system was not presented to Council. It most assuredly was during the Retreat, which IS the FIRST meeting of the Budget process where Staff presents what it needs and Council advises what it will give.

So, saying it was never before Council and handled completely behind the scenes is patently false.

So, one false statement clearly refuted.

She also said, in support of Imker, Council gave $7,500 to DAPC. Another false statement.

I confirmed with the City Manager there was no discussion beyond Sturbaum and my bringing it up to Council, which was greeted by silence. Staff, not Council, added the money to meet legal requirements. There was no good graces by the majority in this issue. They did not propose it. They could not really deny it. So, it was not new money as portrayed.

Now, for your false claim. The Award was for COMMUNICATIONS technology, not records keeping.

Nor was it $250,000 dollars.

As for being overruled, you conveniently left out, which was also absent from the article, the City Attorney warned her about committing an ethics violation here. She did not listen and proceeded.

I have been contacted by some people who believe Learnard did break ethics law here.

I was trying to prevent such a violation and preserve the integrity of the purpose of Council meetings.

This whole thread has been nothing but an Imker election campaign by a small handful of Imker supporters. Facts not welcome.

My one and only post. The paper irrefutable says Learnard did not tell the truth.

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I'm going to take a stab at translating this. Join in funseekers

The first half of this is mostly garbled, but I guess the main point is
1. That the $7500 was not brought up before council OR
2. It was brought up before council (by Doug and Me, of course) but it was met with silence OR
3. The city staff did it to remain legal - which implies that the council acted illegally and staff has the right to throw $7500 at any problem they deem appropriate.
Pick one. Or pick all 3 like the mayor did.

Then on to the second half which the city attorney warned Ms. Learnard that she was about to commit a ethics violation by bringing up the fact that this $7500 was indeed in the budget and of course the ever vigilant mayor tried to prevent this and "preserve the integrity" of council. And of course the tried and true "I have been contacted by some people who believe Learnard did break ethics law here" which is poor syntax and faulty logic, but probably true - say hi to Doug and Mrs. Haddix for us.

And by signing off with the "small handful of Imker supporters not interested in the facts" - said facts being on video - and stating that this whole thread has "been nothing but an Imker election campaign"- sure puts us in our place.

Newsflash mr. mayor - no one really thinks that Imker is the best thing since sliced bread. He is competent and hard-working and deserves to be reelected, but none of this is about him specifically. It is about preventing you - da mayor - from having voting control of council, in essence having two Sturnbaums instead of just one. I realize you may take that personally, but those of us that love Peachtree City and suffered 4 years under Brown, Rapson, Weed (and for a while Tenant) really don't want to see a rerun of that expensive and embarrassing movie.

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Thank you Dead DJ

I read the Mayor's attempt at explanation three times and could not quite follow it. The Mayor has a future in writing word riddles for the game section of the paper, if nothing else.
Thanks for the clarification. You made as much sense of it as can be done considering the material.

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RWM - I hope you can figure it out

Well Mr. Morgan, I am just as confused as you over hisshionors rambling. Let's see now, it was confirmed that the $7,500 was new money in the current budget,it was confirmed by staff that the money was paid to DAPC, hizzhionor's quote in the paper said it was not new money --- somewhere in there I got lost.

I guess it depends on what the definition of is is.

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Mr Mayor...

Mr Boyett certainly does not speak for your reasoning because, quite frankly, Mayor you cannot. In the not too distant future you will be assuredly voted out of office leaving our unopposed community activist to fend for himself.

Whoever the majority is at that time will undertake the monumental task of reestablishing the integrity of both the Council and especially the office of mayor. It is apparent you cannot realize the harm you've done to this city, and not being a psychologist I can only guess as to the root cause of your malady.

Another blogger made the statement "worse than Brown, WTB" and there's no doubt in my mind that you are in that category of mayors that include Raymond Berry. Think of the city and its welfare instead of personal benefit, attempt to have an open mind on city issues for you are not the expert on matters Peachtree City, and should you find it necessary to raise your voice (shout) again remember that only demonstrates a lack of intelligence not a demonstration of authority.

Resign and walk peacefully into the night, else you may experience more of the grief you have brought upon all of us and yourself.

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Agreed Mike King: Mayor should Resign

But for him to do so, would require an understanding on his part that he is a monumental failure as Mayor, a damaging menace to the citizens, along with an element of genuine concern about the future of Peachtree City. All of these realizations would require a complete mental transformation on a level akin to Scrooge seeing the three ghosts of past, present and future. Not likely as all Haddix dreams of are DAPC and playing "Ring Around the Rosy" with Dienhart and Allen.

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Haddix: I don't think so
Don Haddix wrote:

I confirmed with the City Manager there was no discussion beyond Sturbaum and my bringing it up to Council, which was greeted by silence. Staff, not Council, added the money to meet legal requirements. There was no good graces by the majority in this issue. They did not propose it. They could not really deny it. So, it was not new money as portrayed.

Sorry Don, but that's total BS.

The council approved the budget that included this 7.5K and it was NOT a carryover as you firmly stated here. You are totally wrong and now trying to weasel out of what you already posted here emphatically. You're being dishonest, frankly.

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As for being overruled, you conveniently left out, which was also absent from the article, the City Attorney warned her about committing an ethics violation here. She did not listen and proceeded.

I have been contacted by some people who believe Learnard did break ethics law here.

I was trying to prevent such a violation and preserve the integrity of the purpose of Council meetings.

The video of this meeting online at http://www.livestream.com/peachtreecitytelevision/video?clipId=pla_ba4fd...

speaks for itself of who said what, when and why. Your acolytes are welcomed to bring ethics charges against Learnard at any time if they are so concerned and we'll see how that goes.

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This whole thread has been nothing but an Imker election campaign by a small handful of Imker supporters. Facts not welcome.

Don, it has very little to do with Imker and a whole lot to do with you. Throw Deadheart and Allen in that also since they decided to take the same course.

Until you turn the next page of the Steve Brown Political Playbook and get to the part of what happens when you p*** off everyone with public attacks that are filled with bile and the consequences of such, as well as claiming it's only some small cabal of people, you're going to be an extremely ineffective Mayor of PTC. It took Brown two crushing defeats by humongous margins and an exile for a few years until he could find a suitable opponent who was so awful that even Brown could beat him.

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My one and only post. The paper irrefutable says Learnard did not tell the truth.

Actually Don, this is yet another instance of you accusing someone else of being a liar and you really need to look into the mirror.

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Great Stuff Nuk_1

All accurate points and well said. It is funny that the Mayor and Dienhart have relegated their argument now to the lowest level of explanation possible... the last ditch "conspiracy theory" argument.

FALCONS 21 - zip!

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Funny, Little Mayor, here is a CHALLENGE

Funny stuff, little Mayor. I have a challenge for for you and your conspiracy theory. Keep reading.

So, after being absent from the boards for days, you and Dienhart come back within hours of each other with the same lame argument... it's a conspiracy! I get that as your plan, but really did it take you three days to come up with that? You both say that "the conspiracy" is made up of four or five people, but there are more than a dozen people on here, all in disgust of your integrity and the way you and Dienhart have conducted yourself in this campaign.,
WHERE ARE YOUR SUPPORTERS DON? As popular as you think you are, there has yet to be even ONE citizen come to your or Dienharts defense on here. That is pitiful.

Let me clue you in Haddix, in case you really believe your own self-assuring perspective on this as a big conspiracy. Out of all the people that have responded here so far, I know two of them... the two that use their real name, King and Boyette. And those two, I have never been in the same room with at the same time. EVER. I will write you a check for $500 to your favorite charity (probably the reelect Haddix campaign I am sure) if you can prove that I have ever been in the same room at the same time with even TWO of the people on this string. Prove me wrong Mayor.

Welcome to the new environment of Peachtree City government Mayor. You are being watched. Your days of not being held accountable for what you do and say are over. Get used to it. A lot more to come. Stay tuned.

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HADDIX FAIRY TALES

Donnie, it is always good to hear from you. I continue to be amazed at the playground in your mind. And the paranoia is also interesting - these days you always attribute anyone uncovering facts that reveal your distortions as associated with Imker. Don’t you get it Donnie, it is not Imker. It is your misinformation, distortions, lack of leadership, lack of capability, and being a general embarrassment to the position of Mayor and this great City that is the issue.
Are you so naive to think the information comes from Imker? If you understood credible sources you would realize that a group of us try to make sure we are using facts. Don’t you remember our open records review of DAPC? My facts are usually are confirmed in documents, video or from multiple sources in interviews and it seems like they always find you distorting the facts.
So let’s look at your distortions today. If you review the video, Dr. Pennington confirmed the records system was pulled by him and his staff and not presented to the Council for a vote. ARE YOU THAT DESPERATE? And why not bring up every other item that occurred before Dr. Pennington submitted the budget he recommended to Council. That was what was voted on Donnie. And your boy Steve Allen said in the paper, and I quote:
“Secondly, Chief Clark in the 2011/2012 budget process requested a new records management system to replace the 13-year-old record management system in order to improve the department’s productivity and improve integration with the Fayette County Sheriff and Fayetteville Police departments. Eric Imker did not vote to fund this 2011/2012 budget request.”
I think most people would use logical deduction and see that the only way Allen came up with this was listening to your distortions. If Dr. Pennington pulled it as he said he did and did not present it to Council, how could Imker vote for or against? Another HADDIX distortion.
So let’s look at your distortion regarding the DAPC budget. It was confirmed that there was $7.500.00 paid to DAPC in this budget. The Council unanimously voted to approve the budget and this amount was there regardless of how it got there. Now let’s look at your quote in the paper: "Just like he claimed, at the Debate, Council alloted $7K to DAPC. Totally false claim. It was their money carried over from last year because they didn't have enough to keep meeting and do anything. It was NOT City money given to them."
Another Donnie illusion? If it was in the budget this year and has BEEN PAID then your statement that is was “NOT City money given to them” seems to be a … well, less than forthright.
And on we go . . .Your boy Allen, as quoted above, called it a records management system. Let’s call it anything you like so the true significance of this is not lost. Also, you have me – it is probably not exactly $250,000 in the budget request. I am just used to dealing with folks that have management experience and a business education so that it is customary to use rounded approximations at a global level instead of the detail of all the components of a project. I am pretty sure it is close but I will research the exact name of the project and the exact amount of all components and post it here so all can see.
The facts as confirmed in the video is that this item never made it past staff to budget presented by Dr. Pennington for Council vote. It also seems to imply that you probably fed Allen misinformation and now have to cover. If I were him, I would not be very happy with you.
And again we enter the playground of your imagination and the distortions of what actually occurs. We have a video Donnie – Mr. Meeker in his role asked council woman Learnard if she was aware of the rules and she relied she was. That is not a warning and anyone that takes the time to look at the video would have to agree. Apparently Council Woman Learnard felt it was in the best interest of the City to make sure that the Citizens of Peachtree City had the facts after you have been misrepresenting and distorting reality in your support of Allen and Dienhart.
And to continue to work against the playground of your imagination, I have reread the paper several times and see not one instance of a mention the Council Woman Leonard did not tell the truth. Are you sure Donnie that in the reality distortions you imagine that this is a defense you created? But just to be sure I am writing to John Munford and Cal Beverly with your view of the paper to find out if we got different editions. But I betcha this is just more of your imagination.
And for those Citizens that think Council Woman Learnard committed an ethics violation for making sure that outright falsehoods were corrected so that the Citizens had factual information, please send me their names (with you Donnie it is always some people told me). I would like to review with them the October 17th DAPC presentation that you, Allen, and Dienhart supported. As you remember, you were on my correspondence days before this event questioning the ethics of using City Hall for an obvious campaign event. I would like to get their opinions on that violation. Let’s see Donnie – correcting misinformation being given to voters or an obvious attempt to use a City Hall presentation to sell a flawed DPAC and DAPC plan that it seems you want for personal benefit reasons. That will be an interesting situation –
And Donnie – what an excuse. You say you were trying to “preserve the integrity of the purpose of Council meetings.” by hot allowing this discussion. Is there no higher purpose for an elected official than to make sure the people are properly informed and that untruths are shown for what they are? No Donnie, your only motive was trying to cover up the fact that you have misled, misinformed, and distorted information given to the Citizens. The facts are in the record and on video. You want to make this about Imker when it is about the fact that you have demonstrated that you cannot be trusted and must be fact checked.
Let’s try this again Donnie. I offered it to your once before and you never replied. Let’s meet at City Hall after Thanksgiving so that you won’t feel paranoid that this is about Imker and the election. We will debate on whether you have misled, misinformed, and generally distorted information that you give out. We can cover such subjects as the budget, DAPC, ARC, etc. It will be a pretty big list. I will use Council Meeting minutes, official documents, video, your emails, and credible witnesses to present my case. You can refute with any certifiable fact. We will let an independent party select a panel of judges. If I prove my point, then you donate a $100 to the City Recreation Program. If the panel says I did not prove my point, then I will make the $100 donation. And the public is invited.
Stop trying to project this to Imker – it about what some who have been around a long time say it the worst Mayor ever. It is about a better Peachtree City. It is about integrity in government.

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Randy Vs. Ghidorah!

Randy, enough of this conspiracy of facts from Team Imker! You know facts has never stood in the way of Team Ghidorah! You can have your facts! As the faux campaign manager for Team Ghidorah, I can say that we stand for the three heads of obfuscation, ignorance, and paranoia! We must not bend to facts in operating the government of our fine and pristine city! Rather, it is fabrications and distortions that will keep PTC great!

All will succumb to Ghidorah sooner or later. Resistance is Futile!

BTW, the Falcons looked pretty good yesterday, especially Julio! Bring on the Who-Dats next week!

Go Team Ghidorah!

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Ninja Guy - how silly of me

I bow to you 3 of 0. I now see resistance is futile.

Sad but the reality is the three heads of obfuscation, ignorance, and paranoid have been with us for the Haddix terms and will remain if Allen and Dienhart win (write-in Mike King for Post 2).

Hopefully we will see voters that do their homework - if they do the dark side will not prevail.

Re the Falcons - looks like they just won by a hair, huh? :-0

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HADDIX FAIRY TALES

Donnie, it is always good to hear from you. I continue to be amazed at the playground in your mind. And the paranoia is also interesting - these days you always attribute anyone uncovering facts that reveal your distortions as associated with Imker. But Dienhart is now singing the same tune so it looks like the two of you have your stories coordinated. Don’t you get it Donnie, it is not Imker. It is your misinformation, distortions, lack of leadership, lack of capability, and being a general embarrassment to the position of Mayor and this great City that is the issue.
Are you so naive to think the information comes from Imker? If you understood credible sources you would realize that a group of us try to make sure we are using facts. Don’t you remember our open records review of DAPC? My facts are usually are confirmed in documents, video or from multiple sources in interviews and it seems like they always find you distorting the facts.
So let’s look at your distortions today. If you review the video, Dr. Pennington confirmed the records system was pulled by him and his staff and not presented to the Council for a vote. ARE YOU THAT DESPERATE? And why not bring up every other item that occurred before Dr. Pennington submitted the budget he recommended to Council. That was what was voted on Donnie. And your boy Steve Allen said in the paper, and I quote:
“Secondly, Chief Clark in the 2011/2012 budget process requested a new records management system to replace the 13-year-old record management system in order to improve the department’s productivity and improve integration with the Fayette County Sheriff and Fayetteville Police departments. Eric Imker did not vote to fund this 2011/2012 budget request.”
I think most people would use logical deduction and see that the only way Allen came up with this was listening to your distortions. If Dr. Pennington pulled it as he said he did and did not present it to Council, how could Imker vote for or against? Another HADDIX distortion.
So let’s look at your distortion regarding the DAPC budget. It was confirmed that there was $7.500.00 paid to DAPC in this budget. The Council unanimously voted to approve the budget and this amount was there regardless of how it got there. Now let’s look at your quote in the paper: "Just like he claimed, at the Debate, Council alloted $7K to DAPC. Totally false claim. It was their money carried over from last year because they didn't have enough to keep meeting and do anything. It was NOT City money given to them."
And another Donnie illusion? If it was in the budget this year and has BEEN PAID this year then your statement that is was “NOT City money given to them” seems to be a … well, less than forthright.
And on we go . . . Your boy Allen, as quoted above, called it a records management system. Let’s call it anything you like so the true significance of this is not lost. Also, you have me – it is probably not exactly $250,000 in the budget request. I am just used to dealing with folks that have management experience and a business education so that it is customary to use rounded approximations at a global level instead of the detail of all the components of a project down to the exact penny. I am pretty sure it is close but I will research the exact name of the project and the exact amount of all components and post it here so all can see what you are making such an issue about.
The facts as confirmed in the video is that this item never made it past staff to budget presented by Dr. Pennington for Council vote. It also seems to imply that you probably fed Allen misinformation and now have to cover. If I were him, I would not be very happy with you.
And again we enter the playground of your imagination and the distortions of what actually occured. We have a video Donnie – Mr. Meeker in his role asked Council Woman Learnard if she was aware of the rules and she relied she was. That is not a warning and anyone that takes the time to look at the video would have to agree. Apparently Council Woman Learnard felt it was in the best interest of the City to make sure that the Citizens of Peachtree City had the facts after you have been misrepresenting and distorting reality in your support of Allen and Dienhart.
And to continue to work against the playground of your imagination, I have reread the paper several times and see not one instance of a mention the Council Woman Leonard did not tell the truth. Are you sure Donnie that in the reality the distortions you imagine are a defense you created for yourself? But just to be sure I am writing to John Munford and Cal Beverly with your view of the paper to find out if I got a different edition. But I betcha this is just more of your imagination.
And for those Citizens that think Council Woman Learnard committed an ethics violation for making sure that outright falsehoods were corrected so that the Citizens had factual information, please send me their names (with you Donnie it is always some people told me). I would like to review with them the October 17th DAPC presentation that you, Allen, and Dienhart supported. As you remember, you were copied on my correspondence days before this event questioning the ethics of using City Hall for an obvious campaign event. I would like to get their opinions on that violation. Let’s see Donnie – correcting misinformation being given to voters or an obvious attempt to use a City Hall presentation to sell a flawed DPAC and DAPC plan that it seems you are using to try to get Allen elected and that you seem to want for personal benefit reasons. That will be an interesting situation –
And Donnie – what an excuse. You say you were trying to “preserve the integrity of the purpose of Council meetings.” by not allowing this discussion. Is there no higher purpose for an elected official than to make sure the people are properly informed and that untruths are shown for what they are? No Donnie, your only motive was trying to cover up the fact that you have misled, misinformed, and distorted information you have given to the Citizens. The facts are in the record and on video. You want to make this about Imker when it is about the fact that you have demonstrated that you cannot be trusted and must be fact checked.
Let’s try this again Donnie. I offered this to your once before and you never replied. Let’s meet at City Hall - after Thanksgiving so that you won’t feel paranoid that this is about Imker and the election. We will debate on whether you have misled, misinformed, and generally distorted information that you give out. We can cover such subjects as the budget, DAPC, ARC, etc. It will be a pretty big list. I will use Council Meeting minutes, official documents, video, your emails, and credible witnesses to present my case. You can refute with any certifiable facts. We will let an independent party select a panel of judges. If I prove my point, then you donate a $100 to the City Recreation Program. If the panel says I did not prove my point, then I will make the $100 donation. And the public is invited.
Please stop trying to project this to Imker – it about what some who have been around a long time say it the worst Mayor ever. It is about a better Peachtree City. It is about integrity in government.

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NUK - George will be back I'd bet

NUK

This is standard Haddix protocol - I am the poor victim and everybody is against me. It is pretty standard when there are no facts or critical thinking.

The problem for them now is that all statements are being fact checked.Hopefully that will encourage a little more attention to the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

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"MY LAST POST" Rule

Randy... Cal should create and enforce a "MY LAST POST" rule. If you say this on these blogs that, "this is my last post" as the mayor has done at least a dozen times here recently, only to turn around to say "one more thing," then you should be subjected to a mandatory 30 day silence rule. If you abuse the wolf cry more than three times in a given month by stating "My last post" only to post again later, then you should be be required to wear a "pants on fire" T-Shirt for 30 days.

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Fun and joy of serving on council

The mayor should have a few drinks to help him relax during the council meeting - then maybe he'd just let things that irked him go (but more likely he'd be more of an obstructionist). And he'd run the risk of being outed by his successor and then we'd have another lawsuit to deal with.

Seriously though, thanks to Mrs. Learnard for getting past the petty complaints and emphasizing the availability of the budget. And as her, I do recommend everyone read it. But while it is open and available, it really does not address the budget vs. the need - I'd like to see a justification of the budget lines, aka a baseline budget. Also, comparison of prior year and projected key metrics such as budget $ / number of residents, number of businesses, number of developmental requests, etc. And comparison with budgets of similar jurisdictions. I do believe PTC does a jam up job for a governmental organization but that's a pretty low standard, and we need to keep scrutinizing it as would be done by any good business.

Steve