Obama- You dumb people need to let us handle things. We are the professional politicians after all.

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In response to a question by Chip Reid CBS News in reference to their poll that most Americans do not want the debt ceiling raised, Obama had this to say:

"Well, let me distinguish between professional politicians and the public at large. The public is not paying close attention to the ins and outs of how a Treasury option goes. They shouldn’t. They're worrying about their family; they're worrying about their jobs; they're worrying about their neighborhood. They've got a lot of other things on their plate. We're paid to worry about it."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/07/11/obama_professional_pol...

What an egotistical response. The public is just too dumb to understand Government. We have Professionals in DC.

President Obama lives in World where Kings and Queens exist. He just thinks that's here in America.

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The State and Mr. Obama

"And I do not want, and I will not accept, a deal in which I am asked to do nothing, in fact, I’m able to keep hundreds of thousands of dollars in additional income that I don’t need, while a parent out there who is struggling to figure out how to send their kid to college suddenly finds that they’ve got a couple thousand dollars less in grants or student loans"
- News conference July 12, 2011.

Implict in this statement is that it is the government and Mr. Obama's "vision" of what we should be able to keep of our own earnings.

Exactly how much is enough? Well, all of it, if you take this idea to its logical conclusion. Under Mr. Obama's premise only government can decide how money should be allocated into the economy. If it is right to take thousands of of dollars, why isn't it right to take it all? Can't the government allocate correctly all income?

The fact is that your earnings are yours not the governments. It is the outgrowth of your abilities, skills, and life. Why should we allow the government to steal our lives? What right does the government have to take from one group of people and give it to another?

Ask Mr. Obama.

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Earnings: mine, all mine.
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The fact is that your earnings are yours not the governments. It is the outgrowth of your abilities, skills, and life. Why should we allow the government to steal our lives? What right does the government have to take from one group of people and give it to another?

A scenario: a hotel magnate gives a granddaughter hundreds of millions of dollars. The granddaughter buys up a lot of land that has the mineral rights to it, drills thousands of water wells to sell the water as a designer brand, draws so much water that the water table drops down and causes thousands of wells to go dry. Question: does all of the money generated for her from this venture qualify as "earnings"?

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NO! It is selfish thievery!

Just like Atlanta stealing water from the river and killing the creatures down stream and drying up the river for use downstream!

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Carbon - Scenario

Sounds like this might be a true story not a hypothetical.

Well, here’s what I say about it. Now this is based on the idea of private property, a concept that I assume is not foreign to your political philosophy. Up to the point where the water table drops to a point that it violates other’s property rights, all of the money she earns from her venture is hers. The fact that she violates others property rights means that these property owners have been injured and they have legal recourse to seek remedy.

Otherwise, the earnings are hers, not the government’s.

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Seeking remedies

PTC O, the scenario is made up, but just barely.

I would like to point out that the venue for the remedies would be the courts, which are a function of the government. When the going gets tough, the *entitled* run to the government, seeking a share of the "earnings".

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Carb your thinking is the same as Valdmir Lenin and Marx

No one person should hold property. One of the ten tenets of Communism.

My Rights extend out until I impinge on the rights of others. Yes courts is the avenue of remedy, but that is not a function of Government per se that is a function of society.

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Observerofu,

It would be nice if you were correct in your assessments once in a while.

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Be that as it may carb

the assessment was only from your own words. Must have hit a bit of a nerve however.

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Not really Observerofu,
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the assessment was only from your own words. Must have hit a bit of a nerve however.

No nerve hit here. I said nothing about property rights and I am more of a free market person than you are. There wasn't enough sting involved in your reply to even notice.

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If I read you incorrectly

then my apologies.

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Carbon - Government and Law

Carbon, now I know you know this and I think you are just being a bit contrarian or maybe provocative.

Seeking remedies under the Constitution for property illegally taken is a proper role of the judicial system and our government. That is unless it is government stealing private property, then.....well then it's for the "common good" and perfectly acceptable.

The "entitled" in this case is all individuals, including poor little you.

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PTC O,

Let's go with contrarian and provocative.

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The "entitled" in this case is all individuals, including poor little you

You are incorrect on one point: I ain't poor, for "The man that needs little is a wealthy man".

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Carbon - OK

Whatever makes you happy. ;-)

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