An Anti-Israel President

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An Anti-Israel President - The president's peace proposal is a formula for war.

Then again, it isn't often that this or any other U.S. president welcomes a foreign leader by sandbagging him with an adversarial policy speech a day before the visit. Remember when the Dalai Lama visited Mr. Obama last year? As a courtesy to Beijing, the president made sure to have the Tibetan spiritual leader exit by the door where the White House trash was piled up. And that was 11 months before Hu Jintao's state visit to the U.S.

For starters, it would be nice if the president could come clean about whether his line about the 1967 line—"mutually agreed swaps" and all—was pathbreaking and controversial, or no big deal. On Sunday, Mr. Obama congratulated himself for choosing the hard road to Mideast peace as he prepares for re-election, only to offer a few minutes later that "there was nothing particularly original in my proposal."

Yet assuming Mr. Obama knows what he's talking about, he knows that's untrue: No U.S. president has explicitly endorsed the '67 lines as the basis for negotiating a final border, which is why the University of Michigan's Juan Cole, not exactly a shill for the Israel lobby, called it "a major turning point."

Mr. Obama would also know that in 2009 Hillary Clinton had described this formula as "the Palestinian goal." Now it's Mr. Obama's goal as well, even as he insists that "no peace can be imposed."

Nothing to see here. Just more lies and sleight of hand from the liar and manipulator-in-chief, friend to radical extremists, socialists, and enemy of the United States of America - Barack Hussein Obama

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You know something, Joe Coughy?

Sometimes I think you'd hate President Obama even if he were white.

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Bacon on Coughy

The only way coughy would like anything about President Obama is if he were a republican!

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He is white!

Didn't you see him in Ireland? It's those RED MARXIST ROOTS that most have a problem with. Of course you could pick the only REAL BLACK AMERICAN in the race http://www.hermancain.com/ -GP

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Georgia self-proclaimed "patriot"

Explain to us what Marxism is. Maybe I'm missing something in your attempt to conflate Marxism with Democratic President Obama.

Oh, and if "most have a problem" with this President, how did he win? And why is he going to win again?

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Obama won by deceiving the american people. His policies of using the power of government to redistribute wealth are straight from the communist manifesto, written by Karl Marx. America's eyes are now open, he will not win again. -GP

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Georgia *patriot: How has the government redistributed wealth?

By renewing the Bush tax cuts and keeping all of our taxes at historically low 1950s levels?

I'd like to have dialogue with you, but you'll need to use facts and not made up B.S.

And you never explained how President Obama has demonstrated Marxist philosophy.

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Come on Kevin, I know you have a deeper understanding of capitalism and socialism than that! Everytime government expands an entitlement at the expense of the taxpayer it redistributes wealth! Everytime the government bails out private industry with union paybacks, fires directors and appoints cronies(BOA) it redistributes wealth(just ask GM stockholders), Everytime a construction project/job with even a minutia of stimulas money requires DBE, MBE, WBE, Davis Bacon, etc, it redistributes wealth. We have a government that is becoming more oppressive to business everday. More government is not the answer, government is the problem. -GP

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"Government is the problem"

Typical "from the gut" one size fits all response. Let's look at it:

"Everytime government expands an entitlement at the expense of the taxpayer it redistributes wealth!"

I take it this includes Medicare part D and The TARP: Prety harsh calling George W. Bush a Marxist.

"Everytime the government bails out private industry with union paybacks, fires directors and appoints cronies(BOA) it redistributes wealth(just ask GM stockholders),"

You do realize that you are a member of THE party that wants to funnel more and more tax payer money to the oil industry in the form of subsidies. And the oil industry doesn't even need bailing out. But I do have you down as wishing that GM and Chrysler had failed and all of those workers joined UNEMPLOYMENT LINES. And here we thought republicans were about saving jobs jobs jobs. Thanks for revealing that lie.

"Everytime a construction project/job with even a minutia of stimulas money requires DBE, MBE, WBE, Davis Bacon, etc, it redistributes wealth."

Would this include no-bid contracts like the ones we gave Haliburton? Man, harsh words for old Iron Heart. them is fightin words.

"We have a government that is becoming more oppressive to business everday."

Yes. The government oppressively has rescued businesses from bankruptcy. We should get government completely out of business. And we can start by ending FDIC guarantees. If your bank fails, tuff! Deal with it. TARP? Not in Georgia psuedo Patriot's World. Just let the economy grind to a halt. None of the government's concern.

But, oh hater of government, why is it that The Stock Market and corporate profits in America are historically high under this "oppressive" government? The facts get in the way of your hyperbole.

All that has been proven is government doesn't work...... the way you guys do it. That's why New York's 26th Congressional district just elected DEMOCRAT KATHY HOCHUL. I wish you could come to El Reno and tell my fellow Oklahomans how bad government is.

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Well Kevin, we can agree on one thing, government is not working. Taxing and spending, special interest republicans are just as bad as the democrats if not worse. Rhino season will soon be open. Dems are equally guilty, house/senate and Pres and nothing but more spending of our children's future. After almost three years of Obama it is obvious now that he is more of a bumbling, big spending nation-builder than Bush was, how's you "hope and change" doing? Broken promises litter his roadside. And you are a believer in the "too big to fail" garbage? Too big to not take advantage of might be a better moniker. Most of those bail-out jobs will not last, BTW..just curious..you know anyone driving a volt? Surely someone in your circle of friends drives one, I heard they are selling tens of them every month! QE1,2,3, all of the creation of wealth from nothing will only serve to inflate our currency, robbing value from those hanging on to their paper dollars. Keep your money in your wonderful stock market, that thing is swollen like a week old road kill, when it pops and belches out all the fiat currency it will be 1929 all over again. Get back with me then on those corporate profits. Yes Kevin, this bail out, too big to fail, nation building, entitlement growing, taxing and spending, business punishing beast is not the answer, it is the problem. -GP

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How's the hope and change going, Georgia P? Very well.

Thanks for asking. Osama Bin Laden is dead. We no longer torture other human beings in our custody. My kids are able to stay on my healthcare plan until 26. Women are guaranteed equal pay for equal work. New York's 36th District just elected a DEMOCRAT. And Republicans are in a circular firing squad over the Ryan non budget. Yes, GP, for some of us, hope and change is going pretty well. I take it from your gloom and doom tone, you would not consider yourself in that number. Wish I could cheer you up, but that is a personal responsibility :-)

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Happiness is Relative

Your response reminds me of the guy that fell off the roof of a ten story building, as he passed each floor stating, "so far so good"! Yes Kevin, many are happy, but at what cost? A crack addict is happy if he has his drug, while others abstain, seeing his future demise. Enjoy your happiness, the Piper of Hamelin is fast approaching and this time he is not taking rats but instead your children's future! -GP

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GP

There once was a fox who come upon a tree with a grape vine growing and the vine was full of what appeared to be succulent grapes to eat.
Being thirsty and hungry the fox not being able to climb a tree, jumped and jumped but could not reach a single grape!
Having exhausted himself trying the fox exclaimed that the grapes were not ripe anyway and were too sour to eat.

It was also likely that in the future the grapes would also be sour.

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Aesop's 2011 Version

In this version the fox was able to eat the wonderful sweet government grapes! What the fox did not know was that everytime he ate a government grape there were hidden strings attached, strings that ripped out part of his children's future, a future where even the grape plants themselves were no more! -GP

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The NY Dem is something you are proud of?

She won because she lied about the Ryan plan saying Medicare would be replaced by a voucher system when in fact no one over the age of 55 would see any change whatsoever. 34% of that district was over 55 years old and they all vote, although none actually do any research. Couple that with a phony Tea Party candidate who was created by the Dems to split the Republican vote. That's sleazy unless you are the type of person like Rahm Emanuel who has no principles - only winning.

This is why Republicans need to get it together instead of letting a bunch of liberal elites who view campaigning as a full time job control the message.

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See my "Fox" tale to GP today, Please!

People vote for the Nation (some do anyway) not just for their district!

There are still a few serious people left!

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Candidate Jsck Davis was no more "Tea Party" than Barrack Hussein Obama is. The democraps still needed lies and deceit to win. I hope they keep using the ad pushing grandma off the cliff, Paul Ryan is doing a good job exposing that lie and the truth should be apparent to everyone by Nov 2012, allowing the cleansing to continue. Let's just hope it's not too late. -GP

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I did say he was a phony Tea Party candidate

And he was. JeffC has 2 very good points below and that is #1 - He'll take the win - well of course you will, you are in it to win and would love to have left-wing social engineering overcome right-wing social engineering. I'm for neither. And #2 - The Dems will be happy to do research for anyone - especially the seniors. No kidding. How is it the Dems have no scruples about the message or the delivery method, they even openly admit it and the Republicans sit back and say and do nothing. For once I'd like to see one of those tired old white men to get screaming mad and start exposing the lies. Maybe Herman will have to fill that role. Can't see any fire in anyone else. Palin is not a serious candidate. Wasn't last time, isn't this time. In fact neither was McCain. Can't the Republicans learn from history?

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Well Robert

I really like the phony Tea Party line. Y'all need to make up a catchy acronym like "RINO" for Tea's who are not pure enough. Maybe they can be the "Chamomiles" or something.

As for a tired old screaming mad white men, how about Beck?

Herman kind of shot himself in the foot not having a clue as to what the right-of-return was. Still, it's a small issue for him in an even smaller constituency so he hasn't been hurt by it. He does need to study up but he's smart, he'll catch up quick. I can't wait until they ask Palin or Bachmann about the right-of-return. They'll probably say they have a week unless it's been worn.

I have to disagree that Sarah isn't a serious candidate. She can't win, but she'll serve as a excellent foil for the Ds portraying the Rs as having been captured by the extreme right-wing and doing serious damage to the Party's prospects of capturing the middle and independents. Just like the Ryan budget is going to be. You can bet that the Ds will continue to use their dirtiest trick of all: quoting the Republicans verbatim. Ask Newt.

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I'll take the win Robert

Yep, Kathy Hochul won in New York campaigning against the Ryan budget and I'm proud of her!

Sorry you think those voters over 55 don't do their research and are presumably dumb. Never fear though, the Dems will do the research for them and they'll spend a billion in the Presidential race and another billion in the other races spreading the results of that research.

And about that lie... does the Ryan budget turn Medicare into a voucher system or not?

The Republicans have gotten it together and they have a mostly unified message. Right-wing social engineering. That's why it's starting to look like the House might be in play again.

And Sarah Palin might be getting into the race. Run, Sarah,run! The Party needs more intellectuals who truly understand the issues like Palin does. Wouldn't it be sweet to have Palin and Bachmann both running? That would surely raise the level of debate. Why, Palin might have seen the New Hampshire Revolutionary War battles in Lexington and Concord from her porch. You never know until somebody asks her (I hope she takes question this time). Maybe she's memorized the name of a book or newspaper she can claim to have read.

Oh, this is going to be fun!

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Winning and fun confirmed:

Sensors have detected an inordinate amount of mirth in the immediate vicinity of the blogger known as JeffC.

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Brimming with mirth Carbonunit

With their Medicare fiasco, the Republicans have given the Democrats Florida in 2012.

They really seem clueless. Here is a simply wonderful clip from a townhall meeting by Georgia's own Congressman from Lawrenceville, Rob Woodall. A woman ask what she was supposed to do without Medicare when her employer didn’t provide coverage for retirees. Woodall tells her, "Hear yourself, ma’am. Hear yourself. You want the government to take care of you because your employer decided not to take care of you. My question is: When do I decide I’m going to take care of me?"

She then ask him why he allowed the Congressional health care program to take care of him.

Woodall responded, “because it’s free.”

Rob Woodall and Medicare

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Jeff C, Rep. Wodall & Health Care

There is no such thing as a "Congressional Health Care Program"--members can select from about 300 private plans as part of the Federal Employee Health Benefits Program--and IT'S NOT FREE! Wodall clearly doesn't even understand his own health care plan nor his own pay voucher, which will show a deduction for Health Care. And if the woman asking the questions understood Medicare, she'd know that if she has paid into the system, upon reaching 65, she will get Part A (Hospitalization) at no cost and be eligible to purchase Part B.

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Woodall and health care

So what? It's not my fault that he is ignorant. There isn't going to be a list of Republicans that the Party can say are too dumb and therefore can't be quoted during the election in 2012 when the Dems start attacking their right-wing social engineering (and a tip of the hat to Newt!).

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Woodall preaching personal responsibility

While his is the technically correct answer, it ain't gonna play with entitlement mentality the Dems have created in this country. Sorry Rob, the train has left the station - we think we deserve everything from the gummint' and if they try to take it away there will be hell to pay. That's great - just what Jefferson and Madison wanted for the country.

Of course he could have taken a more politically correct route and said (honestly) that all this hysteria over Medicare being changed to a voucher system will have no effect whatsoever on anyone age 55 or over. The other fact about that is by making the promise that those over 55 won't be changed, they are making it an absolute certainty that those under 55 MUST be changed. Now if you keep fighting about it and delaying the inevitable changes, then the over 55 protected group may go away. Maybe it will be only those over 60. Or 65. Maybe no one will be protected. Think about that little lady.

This is also the guy promoting the Fair Tax. Needs a little more polish, I'd say.

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Not Waiting for FEMA

Not Waiting for FEMA

Stories are trickling in from across the south about residents who, instead of waiting to be saved by FEMA from this year's epic Mississippi River flood, have decided to take matters into their own hands. These are inspiring stories, and they harken back to a mythical America where people with gumption did what it took to protect their families, their neighbors, their property and their way of life.

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FEMA

Why would they wait for FEMA? All they might get would be a cheap trailer with poisoned wall boards, two cases of water, some rice, some dry beans, some powdered milk, some powdered eggs, some cleansing supplies---which they sold, a first aid kit--which they threw into the trash, some busses to take them to Houston, where they signed up for a bonus and welfare.

Then the President while being interviewed would say, "good job Brownie!"
The Oprah would fly over and cry with a crooked Police Chief!

Now Houston has gotten rid of most of them who scattered to Atlanta and such places and now live in assisted rent housing and work for Walmart for $8.
Those Alabama people are really no worse off than they were, they had nothing when it started--the unfortunate dead ones will be buried by the county, probably.

People used to do what you said, because there was absolutely no help from anyone except joint moaning---no cash.

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Joe. Guess you missed my question.

You were mentioning different screen names I've had over the past 7 years. Here is a question a coward like you won't answer: Have you blogged under any other screen names?

Just drove back from Birmingham; The Hwy 78 Corridor a few miles prior to its junction with I-65. Complete devestation beyond description. But you know one thing I didn't hear from ANYONE all day today? Criticism of FEMA. I tried to buy water and juice for folks, but they didn't need it. FEMA and The Red Cross were on duty, making sure that folks' basic needs were met. Get off of your lazy arse and go see for yourself. It's only two hours away. No need to cut and paste. Go be of some usefullness for a change. The folks in Oklahoma, Alabama, Missouri, Arkansas, Mississippi, and North Carolina don't need your useless rhetoric. Put your money where your mouth is and make a difference in this world..... or continue being the blogger known only for his cut and paste skills sprinkled with ad hominem attacks.

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Netanyahu and Congress.

It appears that several Democrats – court jester Reid among them - are not of the same opinion as the President about Israel. Gee, I wonder why?

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Cy, Netanyahu & Congress

And no less an impersonage than Democrat Dennis Kuchinich thinks that the POTUS speech on Thur may be an impeacheable offense, by bypassing Congress on such a Foreign Policy issue.
BTW, hope you plan to get out of there soon--upcomint wx ain't lookin too good! Maybe time to hit the runway, hold-er in the middle, full throttle, rotate and run for home!

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Libya = Palestine?
AtHomeGym wrote:

And no less an impersonage than Democrat Dennis Kuchinich thinks that the POTUS speech on Thur may be an impeacheable offense, by bypassing Congress on such a Foreign Policy issue.

Libya = Palestine?

who knew?

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Cy, Netanyahu, Congress & WX

And no less an impersonage than Dem Dennis Kuchinich thinks that the Thur Speech may be an impeachable offense by bypassing Congress on a critical Foreigh Affairs Issue. And WX predictions for your area say that it may be time to hit the runway, keep'er in the middle, full throttle, rotate, and run for home!

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Hey AHG

I got stay at least another day. It's a fairly large facility and I have much more to do. The local weather forecast calls for severe "thunder bumpers" with hail, rain and wind. It's a good thing I have a rental.
:-)

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Cyclist. Speaking of court jesters: What's wrong with your party

Republicans have more allegience to a foreign head of state than their own country's state department. People so spring-loaded to criticize the President ,Herman Cain for example, that they instantly say "He threw Israel under the bus," yet they don't even understand:

1) The US State Department's consistent stance on the two-state solution going back three presidents.

2) What a two-state solution even means
3) What a "right of return" is, and why it matters.

Cyclist, you are well aligned with a lost party; folks who can't support their president on even non-partisan issues like allied nation support. Folks who want a budget that will cut medicaid, privatize medicare, end the depts of education and energy while asking for ZERO military cuts or sacrifice from the most profitable industry in the world.

You guys are a mess. I'm comfortable with that, but when a reasonable man such as yourself looks at this ridiculous post calling our President an enemy to America, yet you see the "jester" as Harry Reid, I've really got to wonder what has happened to Republicans? It's confusing (coming from a party of self-proclaimed patriots) and sad to see folks (you not included) so blind with Obama hate that they can't even keep typically non partisan issues (killing OBL and Israeli-Palestinian negotiations) party-neutral.

I'll give you an example, Cyclist. Republicans, for some reason, decided to attack their President over one line of a well received speech. Even Netanyahu mentioned a two-state solution and the possibility of right of return. But, reflexively, Republicans adopted the "He threw Israel under the bus" bumpersticker.

The principle must be to not disagree with an ally on public policy.

Well, how do Republicans hold up to their own principle?

The United Kingdom sent 46,000 of their sons and daughters to fight beside us in Iraq. More Brits died in that battle than any other allied nation. The Brits have single-payer, socialized medicine, or, in the words of Republicans, a system that will destroy our country, steal our freedom, lead to communism, socialism, etc.

Does the Republican party not throw our most loyal ally under the bus every time they attack universal healthcare as a communist country-destroyer? Do they not "throw under the bus" a country who has fought and died for us every time they venomously attack socialism in ad hominem attacks?

Again, Cyclist, this is just a guy on the outside of the republican party looking in and finding it fascinating that even when a demonstrated idiot like jokeawfi calls our President an enemy to America, his fellow republicans only see the "jester" as the democratic senate majority leader.

Check out your teammates, mate. You have enough jesters to fill several Kings' courts.

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Hey Kevin,

Pile it on bubby but, before we start talking about my "party" how about answering my simple little question. Why is it that your fellow Democrats are so afraid of putting the spot light on Israel like your party's beloved leader did? Could it be perhaps......well perhaps because of money? Please tell me the party of "hope" and "good will" did not sell itself to the highest bidder, again.

Lets see, according to the Christian Science Monitor, since 1990, pro-Israel groups have contributed more than $97 million to congressional candidates – 67 percent to Democrats and 33 percent to Republicans.

BTW, we got to do coffee soon before everyone gets away for summer. Are you in?

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Hey Cyclist,

Count me in for coffee.

Many members of Congress from both parties should just come back to their districts and ask "Was it good for you?"

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O's other Mideast Source?

Maybe Obama got a better offer from the Jihadi's? http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html -GP

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Cyclist: I'm always in for A get together. The folks r in town

Thursday to Sunday. Maybe we can all make it happen Early Saturday?????

My guess on Israel and party politics is this: most in my party do not try to make Israel a political football. Outside of fulfilling Biblical prophecy, Israel is just one of many political and military allies that, in my opinion, is no more or less significant than say, India. But, for some reason, you don't see republicans getting all red in tthe face over Kashmir. I feel the Israel thing has been artificially elevated to a huge political football by one side of the aisle to attempt to strip off all of that support that Jewish voters give democrats. I don't think The Ryan budget will fascilitate a voter migration towards republicans. New York's 26th Congressional District just showed us that the opposite is happening.

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The Monitor

I was once criticized for mentioning the Christian Science Monitor. Glad to see that someone else likes to get diverse opinions.

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I wonder just how much you contribute to Israel? Our government gives them weapons to hold down the fort for us in that area--as we did Egypt before, but it never works!

As to the Palestinians, I read here somewhere that they don't even exist.

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Ah, the race card gets thrown again
Chris P. Bacon wrote:

Sometimes SQUEEEAAAL I think DERP DERP DERP you'd hate President SQUEEEEAL Obama even DERP0 if he were DERP white.

Must have hit a sore spot with ol Krispy SQEEEEAL Bacon.

That's it, throw the race card when you can't debat intelligently.

The race card - the last refuge of the defeated, bedwetting efette liberal.

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Speakin' about that "race card"

I was amazed to find out just how often grubby Herman Cain plays the race card.

A few months back, your buddy oofu spluttered for weeks on end about Planned Parenthood and eugenics. It seems your DERPwife was gettin' his rancid talking points from the cancerous mouth of grubby Herman Cain himself, who was busy declarin' jihad on Planned Parenthood.

"Cain’s claim is a ridiculous, cynical play of the race card. We rate it Pants on Fire"

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Jokeawfi: Did you just mention "intelligent debate?"

Now that's just funny on this cut and paste thread you started by calling the POTUS an enemy of America.

As for "defeated, bedwetting efette liberal[s]" I'll tell DEMOCRAT KATHY HOCHUL of New York's 26th District that you send your heart-felt Congratulations :-)

Coffee Saturday? We'd all love to meet you and hear your ideas in person; me included. Think it over.

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KevinK, I'd like to point out

Jokeawfi said nothing about "intelligent debate", he wanted "intelligent debat" (sic)

I'm not quite sure what "debat" is but I do know that "debate" to people such as him is what garlic is to a vampire.

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Proud?? RWM

You betcha!! The crowd I run with 55+, did not vote out of selfish fear. The 'plan' was scrutuinized - and some of the 'facts' questioned.

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