Obama's Silence on Boeing Is Unacceptable

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Obama's Silence on Boeing Is Unacceptable

That is apparently too much for President Obama and his union-beholden appointees at the National Labor Relations Board, who have asked the courts to intervene and force Boeing to stop production in South Carolina. The NLRB wants Boeing to produce the planes only in Washington state, where its workers must belong to the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers.

The nation deserves an explanation as to why the president's appointees are doing the machinist union's dirty work on the backs of the businesses and workers of South Carolina.

Obama takes his marching orders from the UNION GOONS. He is a weak leader that has no interest in seeing our country prosper.

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Just another day-Just another Scandal for this administration

Joe I meant to comment on this earlier. You are 100% correct on this issue. OUR Government is telling a PRIVATE business WHERE it can operate and HOW it will operate.

We are not talking about GM where the Government (taxpayers) bailed them out and arguably have some say in their business. We are talking about a business that is publicly traded and privately owned and our Government is trying to force them to operate at their own detriment but for the benefit of the Unions.

If anyone out there that still wants to assert that this administration is not owned by the Unions, I have some prime bottom land in Florida I would love to sell ya.

"The National Labor Relations Board (“NLRB”) [has filed] unfair labor charges on behalf of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers union against the Boeing Company. Why? Boeing had the audacity to invest $2 billion in a new South Carolina facility where it would assemble its 787 Dreamliner—a job that Boeing assigned to 1000 non-union workers starting this coming July.
Acting NLRB General Counsel, Lafe Solomon, wants that work to be brought back to Washington state and the Portland, Oregon area, where Boeing has its current Dreamliner facilities…."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sd4XpjyLG8&feature=player_embedded

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Kawfi & OOU: Boeing

The new Boeing plant in SC will have opportunity to vote in a union if those workers so wish one!
If the Washington contract is like most union/company contracts, the Washington workers could transfer to SC if they wish, assuming they were qualified for the work available and were willing to work for the waqes offered in SC.

However, the main thing companies can not do is move work currently performed under union contract to another location to avoid unions.

All that will be considered by the courts. The resulting cost of the airplanes does not seem to enter into the solution. If the price isn't "right" for these planes, then the airlines will buy some other plane!

The thing is made from plastic anyway and may never fly very long. This done to keep the price down for the plane and fuel and added freight.

There is a lot more involved here than union labor!

We don't need union representation in aircraft manufacture anyway, people who get paid under $16 and hour for their labor need unions!

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Boeing & the NLRB

Though not required in the current contract, Boeing negotiated with the Union concerning production of the Dreamliner. Negotiations went to hell when the Union demanded a seat on Boeing's Board and a promise that ALL future aircraft production would be done in the Puget Sound area. Now does that sound like smart negotiating? What the NLRB is doing is a disgrace and a a slap in the face to liberty, freedom, and our capitalist-based economy. My guess is that most qualified workers in Washington would jump at the chance to move to the Charleston area. Got Boeing stock?

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No Roundabout
roundabout wrote:

However, the main thing companies can not do is move work currently performed under union contract to another location to avoid unions.

That's not what NLRB is accusing Boeing of but rather the NLRB claims that Boeing is setting up a nonunion production line in South Carolina to retaliate against unionized workers in Washington State for striking.

This will be a tough nut to crack due to the ambiguity of current laws which promotes both the right to collective bargaining and allow companies ways to avoid it by going to another state.

NLRB has to prove before an administrative law judge next month that Boeing's intent was to retaliate against the IAM.

I view this as government intrusion gone wild.

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Just another Day

in the Hood for our Thug Pres! You can take the Politician out of Chicago, but you cant take the Chicago out of em!

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Obamau isn't being silent on the issue, Joe

He spoke loud and clear when he appointed a communist/progressive/statist/union owned punk to the NLRB.

I wonder what the local obumbles supporting Delta people think about this. It's only going to cause more delays in the 787 and jack up the costs to the customers (Delta) who will either have to be able to pass those higher costs on to the passengers or not buy the planes. Either way it means fewer passengers on Delta and fewer Delta jobs.

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Boeing, the IAM and a Man named Lafe

The NLRB acting general counsel Lafe Solomon, commenting on withdrawing legal action against Boeing stated “The case was always about the loss of future jobs in the Seattle area”.

So, it wasn't really about Boeing's so called illegal tactics after all. I'm shocked!!!!

So this whole thing was a shame!!!! I mean, has there ever been a more blatant case of a supposedly independent agency siding with a union over management in collective bargaining?

Of course, Lafe was hand picked by President Obama himself.

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Cy, Boeing & the NLRB

Shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone--all part of payback for 2008 support to the campaign kitty.

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Stuck in the middle with the carbonunit

Some owes favors to the unions, some owes favors to the oil and coal entities, none owes a favor to the carbonunit. Let freedom thrive, shut down K street.

Go Steelers!

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Carbon

Are you a Steelers Fan?
Ninja will have none of this. Ninja has a way of changing ones thinking.

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Yes, I am a denizen of Steeler Nation. No angst should Ninja have, confident of this I am.

'Tis the season of the Steelers!

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We have something in common. The Steelers Rock. Memeber of the Steelers Nation since the 70's.

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T-Man

Same here. I was living in Pittsburgh in 1975 when they won their first Super Bowl.

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T-man and Carbon... Lynn Swann is my favorite non local

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I lived in Pittsburgh in 1963 when the Steelers played their games in Forbes Field and Panther Stadium (U. of Pittsburgh).

Before the good times.

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Please, T-Man, Lion, tincan, Kev...

...stop!! 1970 is 31 (effectively 32) years of heartache for us Chiefs fans! Please remember who founded the AFL (now AFC) - Lamar Hunt, owner of the Texans/CHIEFS! You're welcome!!!

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lost to the Steelers in Super Bowl XIV.

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Hey, you can't be from PA and not be a Steelers fan. Well maybe the Eagles if you're misguided. BTW, for those who may not know, Newt is a Harrisburg boy. Don't know how long he lived there before migrating though.

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Is Newt a Steelers Fan

Does anyone know if he has shared his view on NFL football. He could be a Steeler fan which is a team even politicians can't flip flop on.

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Tincan! Good to see ya writin!

How ya doing? I was staying in the Hilton at Point Park the day Three Rivers was destroyed. Oddly enough, a couple years later I was in Cincinnati the day Riverfront stadium was demolished. But the saddest sports day in my memory was being in Chicago the cold windy day that sweetness, Walter Payton succumbed. I remember it being windy because I was at the Allerton Plaza, and a window washers' scaffolding blew into the windows of a building next door and showered folks with glass. Very sad and memorable day.

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Well good riddance to Three Rivers. Damned near froze to death there once upon a time in the early 70s. Left central PA on a group bus trip with temps in the high 40s, maybe 50s, and arrived in Pittsburgh to freezing weather, snow on the ground and layer of ice in the stadium. Needless to say I wasn't prepared for that. Probably should have done what half the group did. Gotten drunk on the ride and stayed on the bus. To top it off the Browns won.

Also was in Chicago for work and took in a Braves / Cubbies game. Braves lost. Just concluded that I may be a jinx.

Never been to Cincinnati so I guess the just lose on their own. Ok before some fan gets riled up, I know they've won a few this year.

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nor do I plan to, but I still have good feelings about the Steelers from the 70s as well. Even though Terry, Mean Joe, Rocky, Lynn, Franco, and the gang are no longer playing, the teams from those years will forever be at the top of my list of favorites. Undefeated Dolphins too. Staubach-led Cowboys as well. I would not try to sway anyone from liking the Steelers, past or present. Never liked the Saints much, even when they deserved pity as the Aints during the bag-on-the-head days. I did like the Fran Tarkenton-era Vikes too. Fun to watch--kind of like the Broncos of late. Not much football on TV in the socialist paradises where I lived, so I lost track for many years. Are Blanda and Plunkett still playing?

Falcons vs. the Jags on Thursday night! I think Julio might have another big game!

Did you know Newt was a deadbeat dad at one time? Back right after he got divorced from wife No. 1.

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Ninja...

...the Birds are looking good w/ a chance of going 10-6 for the wild card, and MAYBE 11-5, but the Saints ain't going down easy. Good luck!

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The Falcons will lose to the Saints I think but still make the playoffs. They will win their first playoff game, but then run into trouble with the Packers or 49ers. Why were the Falcons ever in the NFC West back in the day I still can't figure out. The only slot open when they got in on expansion I suppose. Why is KC Atlanta's MLB farm team? They sent us Tony Gonzalez too. Nice guys out there, but the lack of trees is a bit weird.

It's Julio time!

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Chicago Shakedown

This was nothing more than a Chicago gangland style shakedown of Boeing. Jesse Jackson used to pull the same crap when he was considered legitimate by the left.

This had nothing to do with saving jobs, and head everything to do with the democrat party sucking up to big labor.

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