Grubby Herman Cain plays the Race Card Banjo

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He's Back..."Colorblind" Herman Cain Plays the Race Card Banjo While Stumping to Republicans in New Hampshire

The levels of hypocrisy demonstrated by Cain and his supporters in this moment are so glaring as to almost not merit comment for they are so utterly obvious. Presumably, Conservatives are colorblind. Yet, race is central--as it was in his minstrelesque CPAC speech several weeks ago--to Cain's performance. Again, Herman Cain suggests that he is "one of the good ones." Ultimately, Herman Cain is not like "those other blacks over there."

... public opinion data from sources as varied as the New York Times, Newsweek Magazine, the Pew Research Center, and the University of Washington all indicate that the Tea Party GOP is racially homogeneous, more likely to believe that black people are not hard working and are less intelligent than whites, that too much is made of "racial discrimination," and that white people are oppressed in America.

Wouldn't a Cain vs. Obama presidential election in 2012 be AWESOME?

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Grubby Herman Cain: I would not appoint a Muslim

Herman Cain: I Would Not Appoint A Muslim In My Administration

Grubby Herman Cain frankly admits that he'd never appoint a Muslim to his cabinet if he were (God forbid) elected President. He'd also never appoint a Muslim to a Federal judgeship either.

Sure, Article VI, paragraph 3 of the United States Constitution clearly states 'no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.' but Teahadists like grubby Herman Cain don't have much respect for the Constitution (except the Second Amendment, of course).

Cain later added, and I kid you not this is a direct quote here: “I does not care, I feel the way I feel.”

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Once again you got it wrong

Herman Cain: The question that was asked that “raised some questions” and, as my grandfather said, “I does not care, I feel the way I feel.”

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/gop-longshot-herman-cain-i-would-discri...

I guess it's just another faulty memory or it could be that intentionally misquoting someone is just something you do.

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Herman Cain

is a man of great character and is also an intelligent thinker that may very well be our next president. So, keep posting your hateful rhetoric Bacon, Herman's polls will rise with your every attack. http://www.hermancain.com/ -GP

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Grubby Bigot Herman Cain's staff issues obligatory retraction

Grubby bigot Herman Cain was caught on film this past Saturday pledging to never appoint a Muslim to a presidential cabinet position or a Federal judgeship. He basked in the approval of the slack-jawed Tea Party right for his bold bigotry.

Unfortunately, Cain's overt bigotry doesn't play well in the rest of America, so after two days of a firestorm of criticism, Cain's staff issued an obligatory retraction: Mr. Cain would consider any person for a position based on merit, as anybody else would, as is the law.LINK

Naturally, being a Tea Party coward, Cain couldn't make that statement himself, relying instead on others to do his dirty work.

It's interesting that the only two people on this site who reflexively came to their Black Brother Bigot's aid were the anti-Semite Observerofu and the Christian theocrat Georgia H8riot.

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For The Uneducated

Wafa Sultan and the religion of peace http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1296126090432829344# -GP

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Got 4 Witnesses?

You'll need them if you are raped, if you don't, under sharia law you will be stoned for adultery. O'Reilly educated by Dr. Wafa Sultan on the so-called "religion of peace".: http://www.conservativesforamerica.com/around-the-web/pig-flying-moment-... Wake up America! -GP

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Got 4 Brain cells?

Gee Pee, this thread is not about the relative merits of the Muslim religion.

It's about religious tests for government jobs, dat ole "establishment clause" in the US Constitution.

Do you agree with me that its wrong for a presidential candidate to announce he would never hire someone of a particular religion?

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No Religion Test!

But a test that if you belong to a certain "culture" that is hell bent on destroying this country, heck yes! Screw political correctness! All of America needs to watch this video to find out what was really said, not just the progressive/socialist's attack/talking points, ie...extremist this, bigot that,... BS!. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDXCwd65R5o I will send Herman an extra donation just because he has the intestinal fortitude to say what most America feels! -GP

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Cain's staff took back this statement. Most Americans were repulsed by it. But you keep posting and talking.

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We are all aware of the evil aspects of any religion. Not all Muslim men treat their women cruelly. (Note the Muslim couples who live in Fayette County.). Not all Christian men burn crosses. Stop trying to label people and using scare tactics to pre-judge people of a certain religion. We're grateful to our intelligence agencies and observant citizens for our safety. To promote fear and hate is not wise. Why are you trying to flame the fires of ignorance and hatred?

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You are wrong. All religions are not equal in all ways, this is a common mistake that people make. All religions are not trying to shove their religion down the throats of the whole world! We have wolves in sheep's clothing. Convert the infidels or kill them, only one I know of has that belief. Truly peaceful Muslims must do a better job of differentiating themselves from the extremist's, that is THEIR problem, not mine. It is not ignorant or hateful to expose FACTS. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPTioW1LPh8 -GP

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. All religions are not

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All religions are not trying to shove their religion down the throats of the whole world!

Read up on the Crusades. Keep posting GP. You demonstrate an interpretation of an ideology that most Americans don't support. Wisdom and preparedness will protect us. Fear and hate will destroy us.

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Newsflash

The Crusades are over! Now what if I restate it this way? Only one current religion is trying to shove their religion down the throats of the entire world, by force if necessary. There, is that better? Accepting as equal and legitimate a culture that wants to destroy you is naive. No fear and hate, just open eyes. -GP

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No- that is not better - neither for you or Cain. Have a nice evening.

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Some people just choose to live in the past and always bring it up in order to accuse others of racism or bigotry. It is in their dna, and you might as well just bang your head against the wall than try discuss anything with them. We all know that Islam is not a religion of peace.
Their goal is to conquer the world, and only a fool would think trust anything that they say.

The democrats have a KKK grand weasle running for Democrat mayor in Florida, yet the Obamaminions on this site are silent about it. That should tell you a lot about their selective outrage.

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You are so right. This is the

You are so right. This is the religion that is being forced upon others around the world and off with your head if you don't worship Allah.
I don't see Christians or Jews in this day and age doing this.

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David's Mom, please consider this

Perhaps you need to read up on your history as well. The crusades certainly were a black eye to Christianity at that time as seen in the lense of hindsight. Islam expanded rapidly by the sword under Mohammed (622-632)to occupy most of the Arabian peninsula. Islam expanded again during the Rasidun Caliphate(632-661) to occupy most of the middle east and eastern North Africa. The Umayyad Caliphate (651-750) continued the expansion (Islamic crusade) and captured the Iberian Peninsula in Europe, all of north Africa, and a line east that extended from the Deccan Peninsula and western Afganistan. These expansion were by the sword and it was very much a submit and convert or be placed as the chattel caste. Three times in the early 700's, Islamic armies invaded to conquer "Gaul" (the Frankish Kingdoms). In 732, Islamic armies invaded "Gaul" and the Franks under Charles Martel defeated the Islamic/Caliphate army at the Battle of Tours. The Islamic Caliphate consolidated their gains and pulled the many thousands of slaves from Europe to their Caliphate territories. There was fighting off and on for the next couple of hundred years, but in 1009 the Caliph al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah order the destruction of the Christian Church of the Holy Sepulchre. It was rebuilt but there was much bad blood between the Catholic church, the Byzantine Eastern Orthodox church and the Caliphate. Christian Pilgrims continued to have a perilous journey to Jerusalem. Additionally, the Byzantine Empire lost the Battle of Manzikert in 1071 to the Islamic Caliphate Seljuk Turks and wanted help from Europe. The First Crusade was called by the Holy See in 1095 to retake the Holy Land.

You fail to see the context of the Crusades and I think assume that the Crusaders were attacking peaceful Muslims that only wanted peaceful trade. The Crusades were taken over by the european nobility that wanted self gain, similar to the Caliphates that did the same thing for the previous 400 years

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Thank you

For the 'refresher course". I can"t see the positive results of either of these annilations of humankind. We, humans of all religions/beliefs should learn how to do better than to 'repeat' evil acts. To use the evil act of one to justify the evil act of another is fruitless. My point- an evil act is evil no matter the religion or belief of the perpetrator of evil. War is evil and no matter your belief, for me it breaks the commandment, thou shalt not kill. but evil exists- and is not the exclusive property or character of Islam. We must remain prepared and observant - and identify evil justly. Not all Muslims are evil- and not all Christians are evil.

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You fail to see the context of the Crusades and I think assume that the Crusaders were attacking peaceful Muslims that only wanted peaceful trade

No - I remember reading about the atrocities of both groups. See my reply. I'm not a 'peacenik', but my study of history does not convince me that war solves a problem.

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I know history- we are

I know history- we are talking about the present age and the threats to our way of life in the present day. Not just for America but for the rest of the free world.

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Dmom the Crusades began in 1096

and ended around 1291. This is 2011. 810 years later you still want to compare Society as it was then to Society as it is now. There are parallels but to try and equate the Crusades and all of it's sins to todays Radical Islamic Jihad is ludicris.

Dmom to know the enemy is the very epitome of preparedness. Radical Islam is the enemy. They hate you. They hate me. They hate everything about the both of us. Nothing is going to change that. They want you dead, subjugated or enslaved. However their preference is just DEAD.

To make excuses for them is like making excuses for Jeffery Dahmer because his mommy didn't hug him enough.

This from the folks you wish to understand.

The Coming is near-Iran and the 12th Iman

One question you should really consider. If the Terrorist struck a major US city with a dirty bomb and we retaliated would the Muslims here stand with us or against us be silent or not?

I don't know and a lot of Americans don't know either and that's the problem.

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OOU - the true enemy?

Should I be suspicious of all white males because of Jeffry Dahmer or those who look like possible members of the KKK? Using your logic, maybe I should. I should really be suspicious of you! There were many Japanese Americans who stood with us, enlisted in the military, and died for us after Pearl Harbor - even though we did the unthinkable and incarcerated all of their families. Did you take any logic classes in school? Not all Muslims want me dead, not all white people hate me, not all . . . .get the message? The mistake in your logic is ALL. May you learn to judge people by their character and not their label. There are Muslims who are helping to keep you and me alive by providing our intelligence agencies with vital information regarding those who would kill us. .. .just as there are Americans who are providing our intelligence with vital information regarding AMERICANS who would kill us. A Musilm father, when he suspected that his son had been influenced by our enemies, warned our government. There are many loyal Americans of the Muslim faith. Stop trying to inflame the fire of ignorance and hate. Stop trying to separate Americans by their labels - judge them by their actions and words. I'm really suspicious of you and your words. The enemy couldn't do a better job of trying to divide the citizens of America.

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Dmom you missed the point

The point is not be suspicious of all Muslims. That was never even implied. The point however was to be aware that their Religion is being used by an increasing majority of believers to justify their jihad against us and Israel.

The additional point made was the fact that silence from the Muslim community's "leaders" i.e. CAIR on this is troubling at best.

Lastly the final point was that the Liberal left/Progressive tendency to ignore the fact that Fanatical Islam is a threat and much larger then you will admit to.

I do find it ironic that the vitriol from you guys are at it's loudest when a "Christian" group i.e. Westboro simply protest while you are mostly silent as the jihadist blows up a school bus in the name of Allah.

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The point is not be suspicious of all Muslims. That was never even implied.

To the contrary, oofu, the "Let's be suspicious of all Muslims" is EXACTLY the point that grubby bigot Herman Cain was trying to make in the original post above.

You've done some mighty fine tap-dancing here trying to change the subject into "Tenets of Islam 101", but you've yet to address the core question here:

Was grubby Herman Cain implying that he'd institute an unconstitutional religious test on appointees if elected president and if so, do you agree with him?

Your buddy GP waffled mightly with that question, trying to have things both ways by insisting that the Constitution be obeyed but in the next breath attempting to insinuate that Islam was not a religion but a "way of life".

What say you?

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Islam

HARBORS a "culture" of violent jihad against "infidels", if we deny that fact we (America) will be destroyed. It is amazing to me after 9-11 we can even be having this conversation, maybe we should re-play on TV the bodies falling from the buildings nightly? Labels such as "man made disaster" and "kinetic military action" are terms of appeasement from ones that are not brave enough to speak the truth. No waffling here Bacon, just brave enough to speak the truth. -GP

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But it's such a peaceful religion.. They won't hurt anyone!

Threats Claim Nuclear Bombs Hidden All Over U.S.

The letter inside said, “The Al-Qaeda organization has planted 160 nuclear bombs throughout the U.S. in schools, stadiums, churches, stores, financial institutions and government buildings.” It also said, “This is a suicide mission for us.”

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GP & OOU

The world is turning. Each day a new group of people in a predominately Islamic country is fighting for Democracy. Open your eyes and close your brain. The internet is changing the world to be a more peaceful place and acceptance of others.
Your lack of acceptance of others whom do not resemble you is like a kid who is scared of the boogey man.
Grow up. The character of a human is peace. There are few who want war.
You and OOU think of war and not peace which is a divisive thought pattern. Liken to those extremist you run and hide from. There are people out there who want to kill you and me. There will always be and yes we need to keep our guard up against them. But to label an entire group or point to a majority of Islam as being extremist is just stupid. All groups have their fringe element. Ours are you, OOU and Joe K. = American extremist

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do you suffer from a reading comprehension problem? Where has anyone here labeled the majority of islam as extremist? Islam HARBORS EXTREMISTS, you call it a fringe element, I call them murderers! And labeling an entire group? What would you call a group of murderers, maybe ducks, cows, or how about geese? And when they attack you is it a "man made disaster"? What a joke. And did you get your talking points from Chuckie Schumer? He was overheard instructed his minions to label ANY COST CUTTING MEASURES the R's in congress come up with to balance the budget as EXTREMIST yesterday, what a LOSER. We are on to their game, all the "we inherited it", "George Bush did it", "extremist", "bigot", "racist" labels in the world are not going to work anymore. -GP

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Islam HARBORS EXTREMISTS

Christianity harbors extremists . What do you call them?

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Last time I checked it wasn't Christians flying airplanes into buildings and MURDERING almost 3,000 innocents, or yelling Allah Akbar as they murdered 30 at Ft hood. Or declaring a Fatwah murder contract over cartoons or books? How many Christian suicide bombers have you heard of? Give me a break, you are fooling yourself. Those Tea Party Extremist's sure are doing a great job as disguising themselves as Muslims! Only one religion advocates killing those who won't convert, expanding their beliefs by force, and it ain't the Baptist's! -GP

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Georgia Patriot, what was McVeigh or Loughner yelling

as they started killing innocent people?

Were they both 'closet' Muslims?

We have plenty of nut jobs already here that need to go first. How many wars can we fight at one time?

You'll be the first to 'B' when the FBI comes to collect all guns form us 'normal' citizens.

Because I'm 'Ab-Normal', what movie is that from, they won't be looking for me.

Yes, my avatar expresses my feelings on that subject.

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McVeigh and Loughner

What they both SHOULD have been screaming is, they are individual criminal schizophrenic nut-jobs, not part of a massive worldwide ideology of hate and murder! Are you somehow attempting to compare those individuals to al qaeda and the jihadists?
You are wrong on the belief that I support ANY of the current actions overseas, we should only defend our country, not nation-build. And as a veteran, if/when we fight wars, we fight with the full might of our great military, no worldwide police actions, no sending our great young men out as targets controlled by the UN or NATO.
I am not sure what you mean about collecting guns but I fully support the 2nd amendment, if you are a defender of that right check this out: http://gunowners.org/ , IMO better that the NRA.
Yes master, I brought you a female brain, Abby,.... Abby-Normal....da de dum....puttin on the Ritz.... Gene Wilder, Madeline Khan, and the late/great Peter Boyle. -GP

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Georgia Patriot, what I'm about is defending this country

"What they both SHOULD have been screaming is, they are individual criminal schizophrenic nut-jobs"; but they didn't.

Show me the Beef, If you have anything that shows that these two whack jobs were part of some Muslim conspiracy, post it!

If you can't, I suggest we concentrate on the whack-jobs, that have already been identified.

There doesn't appear to be any shortage of potential religious targets.

How about you pick one and kill all of them and we'll move on from there.

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Huh?

I do not think those 2 were part of anything but crazy land. I am also about (legally) defending this country. -GP

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Give us your present day

Give us your present day examples because I can tell you no one is more persecuted around the world in this day and age than Christians and Jews. It's a fact.

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Give us your present day

Give us your present day examples because I can tell you no one is more persecuted around the world in this day and age than Christians and Jews. It's a fact.

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Davids mom - Religious Extremists

I heard today that some 2,000 Afghans overran a police station and horribly killed 7 UN staff members. It was reported that few individuals incited the crowd which become violent.

Oh, this was in response to a certain pastor who elected to put the Koran on "trail" after which he burn a copy since it was "guilty" of five “crimes against humanity,” including the promotion of terrorist acts and “the death, rape and torture of people worldwide whose only crime is not being of the Islamic faith.”

This whole thing is just so darn disgusting.(head shaking)

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Cyclist - what

What faith drives people to murder the innocent?

Does all faith do this?

Those that read these pages can deny that the Christian faith doesn't do this but they are mistaken. In fact, the faithful among Christians kill each other simply because they are the wrong denomination.

Passion is a strong and violent human response and mobs have no conscience.

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Cy - from the dictionary
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a person who goes to extremes, especially in political matters.
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a supporter or advocate of extreme doctrines or practices.
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belonging or pertaining to extremists.
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"What is objectionable, what is dangerous about extremists is not that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant. The evil is not what they say about their cause, but what they say about their opponents." [Robert F. Kennedy, 1964]

An extreme reaction to an extreme act. It is heart rendering what is going on in the name of God. Robert Kennedy had insight on this madness. . . .Intolerance.

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Bacon I don't care

frankly all of these litmus test are ridiculous. Being honest with you I did not listen to his statement and really have no opinion. Quiet frankly I am not ready to begin the 2012 cycle just yet. All candidates say stupid things. Some are intentional some are not. I don't judge a candidate on mere words alone. I am an issues kind of guy.

Now if Mr. Cain said that he would not appoint certain people due to their religion and that was what he actually said and meant. Then I would have an issue with that. Would that make me not support him-No. Now what I have read elsewhere was that is not actually what he said, but like I stated I don't know and frankly have no interest at all right now.

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It is also very interesting

that you edited his comment out and made a stereotypical(racist?)remark i.e. black people can't speak queens English without Ebonics styled expressions.

Combine this with your now infamous tag lines and it is just another look into your closet.

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Observerofu

You miss the point that liberals don't like ideas, they like window dressing and insults. Actually, they abhor ideas. So much for the intellectual class.

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PTCO... Oh I know this is especially true

in both Dmom and bacon. It's part of the Social elitism. I got mine you can't have yours syndrome. This is why you see all the wealthy progressives trying to take away any opportunity for others to make money and become wealthy. Micheal Moore is a prime example.
He wants to arrest the rich. I wonder if he has turned himself in yet?

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Observerofu - correct

If it wasn't for the disadvantaged, what would the liberals do?

Naturally, they must use government to keep them enslaved and dependent or they lose their power. Keep them on the government plantation so to speak.

We certainly wouldn't want to raise their lot using free enterprise this is a threat to their power.

Now that's what I call a war on poverty!

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A conversation between

The dumb and dumber . Gosh, I hate it when I get down to your level and engage in personal attacks. I' ll try to stop.
Sorry.

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Well there is that Liberal elitism surfacing

You and Bacon are made for each other.

If one cannot discuss the issues nor defend one's points then a sideways offensive attack will deflect just fine.

Dmom obfuscation suits you.

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Two peas in a pod -

David's Mom and Chris Bacon - they "go together like peas and carrots".
Two of a kind. Of course, they will consider that a compliment.

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History Repeats

Nero fiddled while Rome burned, Obama apologizes while America burns! -GP

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DM - I am

shocked! shocked!

What happened to your Kumbaya philosophy?

Oh, I guess that only applies when you can't think, you know let's keep'em on the farm, fat dumb, and thinking they are happy. After all they are only the masses what do they know? Lucky for us that we have such great leaders to show us the way and take control of our meaningless lives.

You know like in Cuba.

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Hermn Cain

Herman Cain is a buffoon and and a fool. What more could you expect from someone who is a somtime fill-in for Neal Boortz.

I knew it was only a matter of time before he said some stupid thing that would essentially end his campaign. I did not expect him to put his foot in his mouth so soon.

"Intelligent Thinkers'?? What a joke.

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Georgiapatriot, observer, joe kawfi. Quite a tightrope walk.....

It's amazing what some folks will try to defend and how they will try it.

Herman Cain clearly stated (before his odd backtracking), that he would not appoint a Muslem American to the bench or to a position in his administration.

As Americans, whether you guys like it or not, we are protected from discrimination based on race, religion, gender, etc. Nothing your quibbling can do to change that.

You cant be denied a government job because you are a Christian. You can't be denied a government job because you are a Muslem. Cain shot himself not in the foot, but squarely in the face with this one. I wonder how he treated Muslem Americans working for Godfather's Pizza when he was the big cheese. This type of CLEAR religious bigotry is absolutely unAmerican and indefensible, and that's why he ate every last one of his words like a two day old cold pizza.

And what you defenders of whatever crazy things a conservative might say always forget: There are Muslems in our Army, Navy, Air Force, CIA, Secret Service, Coast Guard. They are out there protecting our sorry butts at the same time you guys malign them with broad brushed attacks based on ideology and not fact. And ultimately, the only thing your comments and Herman's comments have done is to insure he will always be known as a former CEO and nothing more.... umm... stately. Georgia patriot, I hope you send him a whole bunch of money. I'm sure a former CEO really needs your cash. HA!

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kevink Cain is correct in one asspect

Sharia law is becoming more and more of an issue in our own courts, schools and in city's everywhere.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0311/Sharia_law_case_fuels_debate...
"This case," the judge wrote, "will proceed under Ecclesiastical Islamic Law."

http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2010/09/08/pastor-arrested-for-shari...
"Like in Dearborn, Michigan, proselytizing – or merely talking to Muslims on public streets appears to be against the law in the U.S. – just as it is under Islamic sharia rule. via Free speech in Kansas? I guess not… (OneNewsNow.com)."

http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2010/06/thomas-more-law-center-represent...
" In what some have described as police enforcement of Sharia law at the annual Dearborn Arab International Festival, last Friday night Dearborn Police Officers arrested four Christian missionaries and illegally confiscated their video cameras which were recording the events surrounding their arrests."

Political correctness gone mad.

Are you ok with this?

Herman Cain may not have been very Political correct to actually say it, I mean egads a potential politician actually saying what they feel. I mean the horrors of it all. He will never make the primary's anyway after all it's the blue-blood republicans turn not some lowly outsider.

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Observerofu , “In what some have described”, what a crock!

“In what some have described” is an absurd way to frame your argument.

"This case," the judge wrote, "will proceed under Ecclesiastical Islamic Law."

You purposely left out the part about: “Technically, say legal experts, that's ok if the parties agreed ahead of time to arbitrate under Islamic law (or any other set of agreed-upon codes) -- as long as the law or codes used for arbitration don't conflict with state or federal statutes or the constitution of Florida or the United States.”

Try looking up the phrase, "Beth Din" and you will see clear unquestionable facts where Jewish law is routinely upheld, especially in New York.

“In what some have described as police enforcement of Sharia law”, was actually a case of loitering.

Eventually a police captain arrived and told Holick he would need to be walking while on the sidewalk. Holick said he walked across the sidewalk in front of a 40 foot driveway and when he walked back he was arrested for loitering. He claims he was not blocking traffic in any way.

"Officials dismissed the case when a video of the arrest was posted on YouTube. When officials refused to provide assurances Holick would not face similar harassment in the future, the Alliance Defense Fund sued the city. The case was dismissed as part of a consent decree by U.S. District Judge Thomas Martin after officials admitted to violating Holick’s civil rights."

Sharia law had nothing to do with this case whatsoever. Stupid police officers had everything to do with it.

“In what some have described as police enforcement of Sharia law at the annual Dearborn Arab International Festival, last Friday night Dearborn Police Officers arrested four Christian missionaries and illegally confiscated their video cameras which were recording the events surrounding their arrests."

Again you fail to mention that all four were acquitted.

There is no shortage of misinformed police officers acting a fool when it comes to civilians recording their or others actions.

Here’s one: “A federal lawsuit filed on Monday accuses Newark police of illegally detaining a 17-year-old student after she used a cell phone to record officers aiding a man who collapsed on a bus. According to the suit, Khaliah Fitchette was dragged from the bus and handcuffed when she refused to stop filming during the incident last March.”

The laws of the United States emanate from the Constitution and nowhere else, regardless of “what some have described”.

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bad_ptc did you even look at the links?

Did you note the quotation marks?
If you had then you would have noted they are EXCERPTS from the story themselves.

Better drop the hammer off cocked and locked until you know what your target really is.

btw- on the Florida ruling you are correct if both parties agreed before trial. Obviously you missed where that is being appealed because BOTH parties DID NOT AGREE. The Judge made a bad call.

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Observerofu, as I quoted directly from your link

you might think I actually read them.

Did you miss the CNN special the other night on this exact subject? Look up, ""Unwelcome: The Muslims Next Door." on CNN.

It seems that for the most part the uninformed are afraid of Muslims because they think all Muslims strictly adhere to Sharia law.

That's about as stupid as saying all Christians believe stoning is appropriate for violating Leviticus 19:19.

"Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee."

Have you seen any of that lately?

I’m not saying, hinting or even suggesting that I indorse Sharia law. I do not. What I’m saying is that not all Muslims indorse it either.

If anyone wants to practice their religion in this country they MUST abide by U.S. laws while doing so. If they follow the laws of the U.S. I don’t care what direction or how often they pray.

I noticed you didn't go anywhere near the "Beth Din" part of my post. Can I assume you have no problem with it?

Did you know that Voodoo is a recognized religion?

Edited: Google, "Muslim model Miss Universe". I guess she didn't read the memo.

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Bad look up the 12th Imam or Mahdi

and get back to me. Until you make yourself familiar with our enemy you cannot possibly understand what we are up against.

Begin that education here:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/new-iran-propoganda-vid-trumpets-imminen...

Watch the video "The Coming is Near" you might start to understand.

Remember it only took 11 to kill 3000. How many would it take to kill 300,000?

"Anjem Choudary, who once said “the flag of Islam will fly over the White House,” says he will lead a demonstration rallying Muslims to establish Sharia law across the United States.

Choudary, 43, called Americans “the biggest criminals in the world today” during an interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity this month."
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/02/20/muslim-cleric-plans-protest-outside...

"Obama’s Legal State Department Adviser: Impose Sharia Law on America"
http://newsflavor.com/opinions/obamas-legal-state-department-adviser-imp...

Sharia Law Is Already Here
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/11/shaira_law_is_already_here.html

To completely ignore the possibility bad is to ignore the threat to America and our very Freedoms.

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Observerofu, it's the stupid and ignorat that scare me

It's people that are stupid, ignorant, racest or bigots that scare the heck out of me.

Because I believe the stupid and/or ignorant will be the first ones that start something while I’m trying to buy milk at the store.

That being said my family and I carry whenever we leave the house regardless of where we might be going. My son was at Virginia Tech. when all heck broke loose there.

Being vigilant and aware of one’s surroundings has saved my bacon on more than one occasion. I tend to be suspicious of anyone or anything that feels out of place.

The problem I have with your way of thinking is you aren’t.

I suppose you hold ill will towards anyone of Japanese or German decent. Don't take it personally; my mother hated the British until the day she died.

Damn, how many people have the Christians killed over the years?

Heck, according to that Mell Gibson movie the Jews killed Jesus. Should I be fearful of all Jews now?

Didn’t the British try something a few years back? I can’t understand why we haven’t just nuked them yet.

I can only imagine what the Native Americans think now that they’ve been just about been wiped out. It was easier for them tell the good from the bad and they still got the short end of the stick.

I remember a friend jokingly asking me, “If the HLS color system goes from Orange to RED do we get to start shooting?”

As of mid 2010, the Pew Forum estimates that there are 1.57 billion Muslims in the world. Is it your plan to kill them all?

Why don’t we just turn the entire middle east into glass?

Remember, just because you're paranoid doesn’t mean you’re not being watched.

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bad don't assign positions

to me that you could not begin to know.

I find it personally interesting that you would rather point the finger at anyone or anything else besides radical Islam. You would rather ascribe some nefarious semi-bigoted position because I happen to be aware of the potential of that extremism coming to America.

Bad how would your vaulted vigilance and firepower carried on person if some teenager walks into that grocery store or mall next to your family and explodes a suicide vest? Do you think that CCW would help you then?

Granted if he gave you some warning and you recognized what he was doing and figured you would not get sued if you shot him and were wrong then you might stop this person but odds are you would not even know it was happening.

Suicide bombs happen in Israel all the time. Can you tell me who would be more vigilant other then them and they can't stop all of them.

You think you are protected from these Wahhabist because we are several Oceans away. I think 9/11 would have changed that naive outlook.
They are pushing for the Caliphate to return. I doubt you followed up on the links I gave you so let me help you here. Iran's President Ahmadinejad BELIEVES he is ordained by ALLAH to bring about the 12th Iman.

Now let me explain it this way.

There are 300 million Americans give or take a few thousand. Now let's say that 15% of these are Religious extremist we will call them Prostelites they believe that Revelation shows we are in the end of times now and actually want it to occur. Now of that 350k approximately say another 10% or so want to help bring about the prophetical end of time.

So we have about 35,000 Religious extremist that actively seek to do the things that would end the World as you know it. Now, these 35k have the money and power to bring about the breaking of the 7 seals, war, famine etc.

They also believe they have to kill, bathe the world in blood, all non-believers and they take steps towards that goal.

Would you just ignore them bad? would you be a little concerned about them?

There are 1.57 Billion Muslims in the World

15% of these believe in Wahabbism.

10% of these are Wahabbism/Caliphate style Islam.

Approximately 10% of these are the twelvers. Those that believe they are here now to bring back the 12th Mahdi and bathe the World in blood.

Roughly 10% feel it is there purpose in life to die for Islam.

That means there are roughly 2.25 Million potential Terrorist, potential soldiers ready to die for Islam and help destroy Israel and America.

"Nearly 900 "special interest aliens" from 35 nations with suspected ties to terrorism have been apprehended along the border between Texas and California over the past 17 months"

"America's single greatest terrorist threat remains al-Qaida-affiliated recruits slipping through 327 airports and other ports of entry with either legal or fraudulent passports the way the 19 suicide hijackers gained entry to carry out the 2001 attacks."

Bad being vigilant when you are out is something I do as well. I carry everywhere I go and I mean everywhere, but even I realize that someone wearing a jacket that fits the profile of a suicide bomber is not going to be stopped or even shot in America. We can't even profile it. We are to PC for it. So they are going to walk right into a mall, restaurant, or public event and detonate themselves killing many and there is nothing we can do to stop it, right now that is.

Bad to ignore the issue and outright dismiss it is like your neighbors telling you to start closing and locking the doors at night and you ignoring them.

You show how smart you are up until you get burglarized.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/intro/islam-mahdi.htm

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Observerofu, there is most definitely a "radical Islam"

I fully understand that.

What do you propose we do about it?

Do we set up concentration camps?

Do we interrogate each and every one of them?

1.57 billion is a lot of people.

What do you suggest?

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bad we first admit as a Nation

there is a threat. This shaking down grandma at the airport is not going to stop anyone.

Until we stop with the political correctness and profile and handle security as they do in Israel we will forever be at risk.

We will not have to do anything. They are preparing for the final solution and will erase, at least attempt to do so, Israel from the face of the Earth.

What we do from there is anyones guess.

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I'll play your game, now answer this. Hypothetically, if a group of murderers get together to worship satan and plan to kill, is that a protected religion? Where do you draw the line? If you listen to the entire interview with Herman Cain, he explained his position well, he made it clear that his comments was not about religion but about an ideology of hate and destruction, that may be acceptable to you but it is not to many Americans. -GP

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Georgia Patriot and Observerforu; as u try to quibble and spin..

Facts are facts. I'm not speaking hypothetically. Facts.

1. Herman Cain ate his own words (my opinion: Too late for him politically)

2. You can not discriminate against anyone due to their religion in The United States of America. Maybe you can in other countries, but fortunately we are different.

3. Herman Cain will be as successful a politician as Alan Keyes.

Now continue your hypothetical debate on Islam, but the facts don't really care.

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You did not answer my question. What determines what is or is not a protected constitutional religion? Is a group of murderers praying to satan a protected religion in your eyes? Quite frankly there is a tremendous problem with radical islamic extremists hiding behind and abusing the constitutional freedoms we have in this great country. -GP

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Muslim Girl 14, Lashed to death for Adultery

This is what we are up against. The Muslim culture is so foreign to us that we lack even the basic understanding of the mindset.

Now don't get me wrong many Muslims HERE IN AMERICA have relaxed their stance on honor killings and the ritual mutilation of girls but in the rest of the World they are just as committed as a abortion Doctor killing snake handling evangelist. You see the Muslims here in America is not the issue. It's the rest of the World and the other 1.5 BILLION Muslims in it.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/muslim-girl-14-lashed-to-death-for-alleg...

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religious hypocrisy (Observerofu)

Headline: "Catholic priests rape, sodomize children"

"This is what we are up against. The Christian culture is so foreign to us that we lack even the basic understanding of the mindset." - non-believer

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Mainstream when Christians strap bombs on children

get back to me.

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Talking catholic here

Main, You are talking about catholic priests here,not christians. Big difference

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Really? Catholics aren't Christian?

Wow, normal. I think the Catholics would beg to differ with you. Maybe a Catholic will chime in here and clear this up for us. Most (normal) people would include Catholics under the same Christian umbrella, along with the snake charmers, tongue speakers, polygamists, proselytizers, young-earthers, creationists, and end-timers.

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Wonderful Analogy!

You must be highly intelligent to come up with that, congratulations! That's right folks, nuns and jihadist's, both the same. I can see the movie version now, maybe the title could be "Suicide Sister Teresa" or how about "Papal People Killers", or last but certainly not least, "The Flying Nun Bomber", with a cameo by Sally big-uns herself! -GP

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A Convert replies - Catholics are indeed Christian

I was raised a Protestant. When I was young, I was taught the ABCs of accepting Christ - ask Christ to come into your heart, believe He died on the cross for your sins, and confess your sins to Him. I have been a Catholic for a number of years now, and we are most definitely Christian. We practice the ABCs at each and every Mass.
During the Penitential Rite, the priests calls us to ask for forgiven of our sins by saying "As we prepare to celebrate the mystery of Christ's love, let us acknowledge our failures and ask the Lord for pardon and strength," after which we ask for Christ's mercy. Later in the Mass we reaffirm our belief in Christ, his suffering and death and resurrection by saying The Nicene Creed:

We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is seen and unseen. We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, one in being with the Father. Through Him all things were made. For us men and our salvation He came down from heaven: by the power of the Holy Spirit, He was born of the Virgin Mary , and became man. For our sake He was crucified under Pontius Pilate; He suffered, died, and was buried. On the third day He rose again in fulfillment of the scriptures: He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. With the Father and the Son, He is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets. We believe in one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.

I hope this clears up any confusion and God Bless!

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Georgia patriot. No one is "playing games"

What does reality look like to you, exactly? Some times I wonder, because at times you seem on an entirely different level as the conversation. I posed no questions and played no games with you because this is clearly a case of religious bigotry. That is why Herman Cain did not stand by his words. you and observer are pretty much supporting a text which the author has withdrawn.

"Is Islam a protected religion in The United States" is as sensible a question as "Is Georgia a Southern state." You can debate that one by yourself.


“All three branches of government have repeatedly recognized Islam as a religion,” Martin said Monday during an afternoon press conference. “Presidents, as far back as Lincoln and Jefferson and as recent as President George W. Bush, have, indeed, publicly recognized Islam as one of the world’s largest religions.”

Your argument has devolved to beyond sophmoric levels. I'm going to soak my head in ice. You have damaged my brain stem.

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kevink now don't go all bacon on me and assign statements or

stances I have not made or taken.

I don't support Cain's stance. I understand it, however. It is his stance to take and defend or not.

My stance is and has been clear. Islam is at war with us and you and other's on both sides better wake up and smell the coffee.

9/11 taught you guys nothing.

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Soak you Amygdala

Your fear center is clearly damaged probably by a Liberal/Socialist infection. There is a cure however, it is called an informed open mind and facts. Just so we are clear, if a group of satan worshiping murderers decide to label themselves Baptist/Catholic/Hindu/Farsi or whatever, in your opinion, they are part of a protected group under our constitution? BTW, I never said Muslim or Islamic, that are what you assumed on your on. Apologists and appeasers will be seen as weak by the jihadists, just as our current president is. And if your community organizer is finally able to stumble around and get lucky enough to take out Gaddafi, we will have another group of jihadists to deal with. http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/03/after_gaddafi_democracy_or_jih.html -GP

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A little research,please

For those who believe the statements above " public opiniion data .....Tea Party GOP.....oppressed in America ", written by Bacon I hope you read with the proverbial "grain of salt" or did some critical thinking of your own. Bacon's statement "public opinion,etc "comes straight from Salon.com and without the documentation needed to avoid plagiarism.I doubted Bacon was able to write such erudite comments on his own.

I could find no such study at the Pew Research Center. The opinion data from Newsweek was was not research, simply a repeat of the Univ. of Wash study results.I advise all to read the Uniov of WA study and whom they questioned and how they questioned the persons in the study.

Almost every site that quotes the WA study is replete with comments and documentation that totally refute aspects of the study.

Here is one: blame politics,not the Tea Party
""...Tea Party supporters were more likely to believe that "the Obama administration favors blacks over whites" "

I think that would include any person who is up on the news... hopefully not just Tea Party members.
Christopher Coates, who actually worked in the Voter's Rights section of the Department of Justice recently testified in front of the US Commission of Civil Rights.
He asserted that the DOJ had people within the division who felt that cases of Voter Intimidation, where the victim was white, should not be pursued. He further testified that when the Obama administration took over, they promoted these people into positions of power.
Coates testified to this despite the fact that the DOJ asked him not to testify.

Coates, btw, is a recipient of the Thurgood Marshall decade award, and started his career by working with the ACLU voting rights program.

Given that, it sounds like its a little bit more then the Obama administration favoring blacks over whites. Its policy. from
http://www.newsweek.com/2010/04/25/are-tea-partiers-racist.html

I believe the racist here is Bacon who does little research or critical thinking before regurgitating the garbage the gets from liberal sites and sources.

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Where is the response to this?
justwondering wrote:

I believe the racist here is Bacon who does little research or critical thinking before regurgitating the garbage the gets from liberal sites and sources.

I had to search for this because I was curious to see Bacon's response, especially to a statement of plagarism. Bacon normally rises to a challenge. But alas, no news of Bacon yet.

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Wondering my self Wedge-Maybe a time out?

Maybe the Moderator finally got around to giving him a little time out in the corner?

However it has been refreshing having discussions without the insults intentional misquotes, or inferred meanings.

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Good morning, children!

Sorry I've been remiss in correcting your errors, it's spring break in Fayette county and I'm up here with the Baconspawn in Washington D.C.

Saw that document that causes the Tea Party to froth at the mouth yesterday: the US Constitution. How dare that piece of paper presume that Negroes are the equivalent of the Great White Race? How dare they NOT ban all non-Christian religions? What were those dastardly founding fathers thinking?

In other news, the reflecting pool in front of the Lincoln memorial is undergoing repairs. It's emptier than an Observerofu argument.

Not sure if I'll have computer access for the rest of the week, so I urge all of my fans to post their worst half-truths and lies and I'll make you all cry like the pathetic sissies you are when I get back in town!

Toodles!

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Glad to see you weren't banned.

How appropriate that you are in Washington D.C. with your "spawn".

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Hey Bacon

I thought that you would have responded to this accusation of plagarism that the above poster made stating that the material is unattributed from Salon.com

What say you? You have certainly been a good watchdog for plagarism on these blogs. Is this without merit or is there a bit of hypocrisy here?

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Brother Wedge

I'm not sure what this jackwagon is trying to prove with his accusation of plagiarism. I linked to Chauncy De Vega's original article (which he also posted at salon.com). Unlike certain inbred Alabama posters, I respect the rules of copyright and understand the concept of "fair use" excerpts, so I quoted two paragraphs of the relevant passages.

Nice passive-aggressive behavior on your part, too! "Let's you and he fight!"

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Bacon,

There was not much passive aggressiveness here. I asked you to respond point blank on this. Note I didn't call you a plagarist. I wanted to know what your response was and wanted to make sure there was an answer yea or nay. You are a good watchdog for that stuff and was surprised to see an allegation go unchallenged. Develop a bit of couth, why are so such a hater on these blogs that mean very little in the overall scheme of life. But it is a window to your soul, correct?

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He did use spawn as a Pejorative Wedge

or least it sounded like it. Visiting "The Swamp" with "The Spawn" a lot of muck happens to come out of there so spewing vile is understandable.

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Bacon - A point

While I disagree with Bacon on nearly everything and especially the way that he uses his gift of writing to disparage others, I support his right to say it.

However, with that said this board is a privately supported effort. If the owner of this board wants to restrict access, then it is their right to do so.

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a little research,please

For those who believe the statements above " public opiniion data .....Tea Party GOP.....oppressed in America ", written by Bacon I hope you read with the proverbial "grain of salt" or did some critical thinking of your own. Bacon's statement "public opinion,etc "comes straight from Salon.com and without the documentation needed to avoid plagiarism.I doubted Bacon was able to write such erudite comments on his own.

I could find no such study at the Pew Research Center. The opinion data from Newsweek was was not research, simply a repeat of the Univ. of Wash study results.I advise all to read the Uniov of WA study and whom they questioned and how they questioned the persons in the study.

Almost every site that quotes the WA study is replete with comments and documentation that totally refute aspects of the study.

Here is one: blame politics,not the Tea Party
""...Tea Party supporters were more likely to believe that "the Obama administration favors blacks over whites" "

I think that would include any person who is up on the news... hopefully not just Tea Party members.
Christopher Coates, who actually worked in the Voter's Rights section of the Department of Justice recently testified in front of the US Commission of Civil Rights.
He asserted that the DOJ had people within the division who felt that cases of Voter Intimidation, where the victim was white, should not be pursued. He further testified that when the Obama administration took over, they promoted these people into positions of power.
Coates testified to this despite the fact that the DOJ asked him not to testify.

Coates, btw, is a recipient of the Thurgood Marshall decade award, and started his career by working with the ACLU voting rights program.

Given that, it sounds like its a little bit more then the Obama administration favoring blacks over whites. Its policy. from
http://www.newsweek.com/2010/04/25/are-tea-partiers-racist.html

I believe the racist here is Bacon who does little research or critical thinking before regurgitating the garbage the gets from liberal sites and sources.

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2 Beheaded: Fla Koran burning triggers Massacre at UN office

"Outraged by the burning of a Koran in the United States, rioters attacked a United Nations compound in the northern Afghanistan city of Mazar-i-Sharif on Friday, leaving at least seven foreigners and four Afghans dead after an hour-long rampage and raising troubling questions about the capacity of the Afghan police to maintain law and order."

A Religion of PEACE?

Here we diverged from Herman Cain and moved onto Islam. Some felt those of us that view Radicalized Islam as a threat were branding all Muslims as extremist.

Many of us have tried to show that Islam is not a Religion of peace, but then again neither was Christianity as some have pointed out.

The difference is 800 years, a vast chasm one must cross to equate the two.
Many want to, however and many have tried. Some want to bring up domestic terrorist like a McVeigh and others as examples of some vague connection between Christianity and Islamic Extremism. This head in the sand thinking is what brought us to September 11, 2001.

Many in our Government were warned way before it occurred. Part of the problem was the Gorelick Wall. The other is what we still continue seeing today. A total lack of understanding of the threat.

We are not prepared for the fanatic that is willing to die for their cause. They are however preparing to deal with us.

Sources:
We were warned

Gorelick Wall

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Difficult to understand some sentences you wrote, but I fail to see much difference in the ignorance of the ones who killed the UN people and that bunch in that Florida shack who are as dumb as door knobs!

It is correct to say that both these groups are about the brain level of the old Crusades.

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justwondering is correct it is from Salon and others

Well wonders never cease. But he did link to his site.

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