Where did all the Democrats go?

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Observerofu
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Ah I remember it like it was just 20 or so months ago when then President H.W. Bush and the Republican party was pilloried before the Nation for Gas hitting $3.00 a gallon.

Every Democrat in the Country was searching out anyone with a camera so they can lay the blame firmly at the feet of then President Bush.
I remember their impassioned pleas of Americans are being hurt, almost tearing up over the hardship our citizens were facing.

So where are they now?

The National Average Gasoline Price has hit an average of $3.16 a gallon Authors edit National Average now $3.30 per gal.
Higher then it was with Bush as President when he left office. You may or may not remember that the price
for crude oil was $40.00 a barrel when Bush left office. What is the price today after almost 2 years of Obama's leadership?

Well it hit $99.02 at the end of trading and is expected to go much, much higher.

Many analyst predict crude can easily hit and surpass $125 per barrel or more by July of this year and by July we could be paying at least $4.00 a gallon.

With Obama's stance on drilling and his moratorium on drilling oil rich areas of the Gulf and off both coast we can expect no relief. If Libya goes up in flames and ceases oil production (which is already occurring), as well as, the rest of the Middle East we will see a oil crunch that will make the 70's look like the Golden days.

So just where are the Democrats?

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/traffic/national-gas-prices-averaging-3-a-gal...

http://www.silobreaker.com/oil-firms-pull-workers-out-of-libya-5_2264372...

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They are hiding under their desks, probably playing with themselves.

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That's pretty much it, Joe

With all that is going on in the world, Obama is focusing on the sanctity of gay marraige. You have to wonder if this is just because he is woefully inept or is it because he is trying to do some smoke and mirrors. Or does he and his advisors have even a shorter attention span than the average citizen/voter/taxpayer.

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They are hiding under their desks, probably playing with themselves.

I'm sure that is not what the Republicans were doing while Bush was in office - (the son, not the father) The fiscal conservatives of the party just sort of stood there and let the spend, spend, spend continue until they had a Democrat to yell at. Hmmmmm. Interesting - but tragic for our country. Now these same 'conservatives' (some of them) are anxious to enter into another unpopular war in the Middle East. One wonders.

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It is true that the gas

It is true that the gas prices continuously shifting its movement upward. As this, it is one of the factors that have led to increasing world food costs over the past year.
The proof is here: How to save money when world food prices are rising
Increasing costs of fuel are a component, as rising gas costs mean higher transportation costs. Some do-it-yourself know how and just a little elbow grease can conserve a bundle.

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So let them drill OOU

Oil was $40 a barrel when Bush left because of the huge drop in demand caused by his recession. Gasoline fell from $4.40 to $1.60 between July and December of 2009.

You forgot to mention that domestic oil production has risen under Obama and now exceeds production under Bush and that there are more drilling rigs operating now than under Bush.

The Financial Times reports: "...the US was the largest contributor to the increase in global oil supplies last year over 2009, and is on track to increase domestic production by 25 per cent by the second half of the decade."

US oil production revives despite offshore disruption

You also forgot to mention that the oil companies have 41 million acres of oil leases on which they are not drilling.

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Pfft...he didn't "forget"

Jackbooted Palin-American thugs don't "forget" anything.

Their slavish devotion to "epistemic closure" requires systemic overlooking of anything that doesn't fit their preconceived political positions.

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US Oil Drilling

I think some forget that just because an oil company drills for oil in the USA, that doesn't mean that it gets sold in the USA and it doesn't really change pricing that is based on international markets, not just the US. There really isn't anything like "US oil" that is "ours" when a multinational company is looking to sell to the highest bidder anywhere in the world. They don't spend tons of $$$ to then turn around not make it back + a healthy profit by selling it somewhere for cheap or to "be nice."

Now JeffC.....when and where was gasoline $1.60 a gallon in the US in 2009? :) I sure don't remember that.

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You were right NUK_1

I got the figures from tables from the DOE: Energy Information Administration (EIA) at eia.doe.gov. Here's a link to a chart of the data:

Current Gas Prices and Price History

Upon reviewing which I find I misread. It was 2008 not 2009.

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A recession is one thing - we have them every eight to ten years as regular as clockwork. What we have now is something more - perhaps maybe a depression. I wasn' t a fan of "W" but the idiot we have in the White House right now doesn't have a clue. Check uot the actual number of drilling permits being issued by the Obama administration.

BTW - Ronnie Hammond, former lead singer of the Atlanta Rhythm Section, died yesterday at a hospital near Macon. You remember him don't you? Or were you too young at the time? :)

BTW2 - When you had the bourbon steak last week did you happen to notice if they had a blackened new york strip on the menu? I haven't had a decent blackened steak since Le Normande closed. Or, were you too young to remember that too? :)

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Major Mike, Jeff C & ARS/Ronnie Hammond

Perhaps it was Jeff's birthday party when they were invited to play on the White House lawn!

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Jeff C & domestic crude oil production

Yes Jeff, domestic production is up but that's due primarily to enhanced extraction techniques to squeeze crude out of oil-shale deposits, not necessarily anything to do with the administration. See March 21 Time Magazine, Page 16.

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Well AtHomeGym

The mantra from the right-wing echo chamber, reflected in the author's post starting this blog, is that somehow Obama's policies have starved the oil companies of leases and opportunities for exploration which has curtailed production. Therefore, Obama is responsible for the increase in gasoline prices, and all would be rosy if only we would return to the good Republican policies implemented by Bush. All of which is provably false.

Look at the actual policy results measured in domestic oil production in thousands of barrels per day:

Nixon/Ford (1969-1977) decrease in domestic production by 1,034 bbl/day.

Carter (1977-1981) increase in domestic production by 686 thousand bbl/day.

Reagan (1981-1989) decrease in domestic production by 603 thousand bbl/day.

Bush 41 (1989-1993) decrease in domestic production by 976 thousand bbl/day.

Clinton (1993-2001) decrease in domestic production by 1,162 thousand bbl/day.

Bush 43 (2001-2009) decrease in domestic production by 645 thousand bbl/day.

Obama (2009-Dec. 2010) increase in domestic production by 470 thousand bbl/day.

Here's the raw data:

U.S. Field Production of Crude Oil

The decrease under Nixon can be attributed to his implementation of price controls in the face of gas lines and soaring prices for gasoline.

The increase in domestic oil production under Carter was clearly due to deregulation of the industry and favorable policies which led to the almost tripling of the number of wells.

The decrease under Reagan is attributable to his dismantling of Carter's energy policies.

None of the other Presidents implemented a real energy policy that went beyond wishes and speeches.

Obama's policies are not responsible for gasoline prices. Oil production has increased under his administration for the first time since Carter was President thirty years ago.

Regardless of the facts, the voters will surely hold any President responsible for high gasoline prices. Obama has the job and takes the blame. That suits me but people here shouldn't believe that there is anything anything real or substantive in the echo chamber's arguments. It's politics, a way to attack Obama. He's got the bully pulpit. He's not at a disadvantage in the argument.

If Obama really wants to affect gasoline prices, maybe he should develop a comprehensible Middle East policy.

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Golly gee Jeffc
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The increase in domestic oil production under Carter was clearly due to deregulation of the industry and favorable policies which led to the almost tripling of the number of wells.

No mention of the Alaska pipeline coming on-line in 1977?

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Good point Cyclist but I think not

Your point about the Alaskan Pipeline is well taken but I think it does not undermine my argument. Production from the pipeline started slowly and increased over years as new pumps were installed. Other Presidents got much more oil from the pipeline than Carter. Alaskan Pipeline production peaked in 1988 and total domestic oil production still declined that year.

This is not a field that I follow closely but my thinking is that it is not historically controversial to say that favorable tax policies implemented by the Carter administration led to the increase in the number of operating rigs. If I remember correctly, and someone will surely check me, the number of operating domestic wells rigged increased from about 1780 to about 4750, which I believe is an historic high.

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Yes Jeffc, rigs did proliferate and then.....

BAAM, the bottom dropped out in world oil prices and domestic production slipped because of it.

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I agree Cyclist

You are right and therein lies the conundrum. For the US to become energy independent, the price of gasoline needs to be above $2.80 to make shale oil commercially viable. In that case, we've got nine times more oil than Saudi. That's why Obama wants gas prices to rise.

The question is whether the people in the US would be willing to pay $3 a gallon for gas to keep us from financing the Middle East. Conservatives are of two minds, yes to not supporting the Middle Eastern governments, overwhelmingly no to intervening in the "free" market. But if we don't keep gas around $3, all our energy money flows to the Middle East.

Lenin said, "The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them." Maybe so, except that their system was so bankrupt and corrupt that, in the end, they couldn't even afford the rope. The flip side is whether our capitalist system will continue funneling enormous amounts of monies to societies not compatible with ours in pursuit of the lowest possible gasoline prices or will we artificially raise the price of gasoline so that our capitalist system then accommodates that price and develops alternatives.

The time is not ripe yet.

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No Jeff just showing a little Democrat hipocracy

After all surely they still care about the little people.

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Sure OOU

Hypocrisy? Not my Democrats! They have the best interest of the country in mind and have historically shown their willingness to sacrifice for the good of the country, even if it means taking stands that might cost them their jobs.

I sincerely hope that you were not drinking something while reading that and have now choked to death. We'd miss you. Somewhat.

Assuming that the Democrats care about the little people, what could they do that would have an effect within five years?

We both know the answer. That's why they posture. They've got nothing else. This is not an energy policy debate, it's a political debate. If you can take Obama down using it then you know what? It's harsh at the top. I don't want to hear Democrats whining about how unfair it all is. If I wanted whining, I'd listen to Palin.

I want a debatable policy, energy and Middle East. You want my opinion as to why neither side has one? Because they are all cowards with no real underlying principles.

Excuse me for stating my true unvarnished opinion. It's late and I'm getting old. I once heard my dear Grandmother tell someone "I like you but you're a damn fool". Looking at the national political landscape, I appreciate her sentiment.

How did we end up being represented by these people?

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Jeff you a breath of minted air.

Since by definition a breath expelled cannot be fresh.

I know that which you speak of is correct. Quiet frankly I would like to ctrl-Alt-del the whole stinking pile in DC and start over.

The wee people are beneath their exalted noses and they only grace us with a few farthings only when we rise up. It keeps the masses quiet you know.

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I want a debatable policy, energy and Middle East.

I'm afraid it's 'easier' to denigrate than to debate. Sad. Where are the statesmen? To govern in this country, one needs a very thick skin.

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Oil Men

Eisenhower was suspicious of 'oil' men and their intentions regarding 'country'. Time to follow the $ again. Democrats are here - watching to see if Republicans can do what they said they would do regarding restoring the budget, creating jobs, etc. All I still hear is 'GET OBAMA'.

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