Palin derangement syndrome now eclipses Bush derangement syndrome

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I personally never thought it would happen. I mean the Left HATES and I mean HATES President Bush.

I mean he had the audacity to win an election after all and he was not even a Conservative, but Sarah Palin has now rocketed to that coveted position.
I am not going to spend a lot of time digging into the past but suffice it to say it has a lot of relevance. One such example I remember is the clothes “SCANDAL”. You might recall the McCain campaign bought thousands of dollars worth of clothes for Sarah because they didn’t like her “simple” wardrobe.
The Left went wild. They went into a feeding frenzy over it. Page after page, story after story, Sarah was pilloried over it.
Today’s equivalent is Michelle Obama wearing a $500.00 pair of shoes to a HOMELESS shelter.

Where was the outrage? (Insert sounds of crickets chirping)

But double standards are nothing new in politics. It happens on both sides of the political spectrum so why does the Left and some on the Right “HATE” Sarah?

Well the Left is easy. They wanted her DESTROYED. They wanted her bankrupted. They wanted her so thoroughly discredited that she would forever be the example of what happens should the simple folk think they could enter into the elite political realm.
You see this after the election. You expect to be attacked from every direction DURING the campaign but after you were defeated 99.9% of the time it’s over. John McCain was welcomed back with kisses and smiles, but with Sarah the attacks were just ramping up.
After the election an amazing 18 ethics complaints were filed against Sarah Palin. Before the election a total of ZERO had been filed. The cost to the State was just under a Million dollars the cost to the Palin’s was much more, both on a personal and financial level. The problem is so bad an independent reporter Joe McGinniss moved to Alaska to continue his harassment. He even moved next door so he could watch her 24/7.

And those ethics complaints? As of this writing not a single one is still active. All were found to be baseless attacks by the Progressive left.

The problem here was she just didn’t get crushed and go away. No instead she makes a decision to leave the Governorship and strike back and strike back she did.
You see I believe it is part of the frontier mentality of Alaskans to just not roll over and die. She started coming out speaking against the Progressive agenda, writing books and yes getting RICH, FILTHY RICH.
Ain’t America great?

You see this in and of itself is what makes the left go crazy whenever they see her or hear her speak.
She failed to realize that the Progressive elites crushed her. She is supposed to be in hiding never to be heard from again. Her “common” talk and “common” background drives them nuts. There is one thing they will never understand about her. She actually says what she thinks and means what she says. This is so unlike anything they are used to seeing from a politician that they fear it.
If you are Center Right you don’t have to agree with her but you do have to admire her tenacity in the midst of the 24/7 attacks from the Progressive meat grinding machine. Whatever you think she is. She is first and foremost an American Patriot. She loves America and she believes in the Constitution that made America great. Unlike the Progressive Left that feels like the Constitution is irrelevant now she stands up and fights for it.

She may not be the most articulate among us but aren’t you just a little tired of all those polished politicians with their measured sound bites saying whatever the group they are currently speaking to wants to hear?
I for one hope Sarah continues to rattles their cages. The Progressives believe they have the moral authority to tell us whom we shall vote for or even like.

I for one will keep my freedom of choice thank you.

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Wouldn't it be just great...

Wouldn't it be great if 2012 we had Sarah Palin as the Republican nominee for president facing President Barack Obama!

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Bacon - great

for the Democrats.

So, you should be supporting her in the 2012 primary, if you want Mr. Obama re-elected.

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Petey, in a perfect world..

Who would you like to see on the Republican ticket in 2012.

Tell me your dream President/Vice President ticket.

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Dream ticket to actually win - Jindal/Pawlenty

Dream ticket for maximum entertainment - Herman Cain/Sarah Palin. This has only a slight chance of winning, but imagine the sound bites.

I do see the Dems keeping Obama and replacing Biden with Hilary after she has been Sec Def for a year. That keeps them in the game and gives them some semblance of experience and gravitas.

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Herman Cain

Since Herman Cain had six inches of his cancerous colon removed, the distance between his mouth and his rectum is now shorter than 99.9% of the human race. As such, this makes him a superb spokesman for the Tea Party.

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Why would you say something so hateful?

Especially about a cancer survivor. I am one and offended. I think Herman Cain is a fine man and deserves some respect.

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Morgan, God is not mocked

Robert, you'll recall how Herman Cain rose to prominence years ago, when he unabashedly testified how he made Godfather Pizza profitable by discontinuing health insurance for lower salaried employees.

The man smugly bragged about being able to afford health insurance for himself, but not his secretary.

That sort of hubris caught God's attention.

God gave Herman Cain a cancer in his colon so that he might amply use that fantastic health insurance Cain had been bragging about.

God is not mocked.

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Wow, I am reminded

of the thousands of Palestinians in the streets rejoicing after 9/11/01. Their glee in our misfortune is similar to you glee at this misfortune. Schadenfreude certainly becomes you. It rots your soul and the rot spills forth from the mouth and other orifices.

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Thanks, Wedge!

I've gotten a bit jaded being called a socialist / marxist / communist / fascist / Nazi by the usual Axis of Weasels (oofu, kawfi and Gee Pee) who disagree with my political positions.

"Palestinian" is a misnomer I've not heard before. I'll add it to the list. 10 points for Slytherin!

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Bacon

My sister died of colon cancer, so in your infinite wisdom, maybe you can tell me just what hubris brought her to God's attention?

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Great day in the morning!

The Creator doesn't go around flinging cancer onto people! Nor does he cure them--nor the Congresslady with a miracle!

You are on your own for your lifetime and you could easily add up the two columns of your existence.

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roundasnout

Not according to good old notsniffles.

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Notsniffles

No response?

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MOST of my family has died from colon cancer as well hutch...

Bacon/sniffles (whatever the current moniker) has always been a pathetic little man who can't justify is failed existence, wrong assertions and convoluted thought process and therefore attempts to discount others by employing the most vile and derogatory means possible.

He would rather be thought an immoral and brusque blogger than have the discussion shine the light on the mental midget he truly is.

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Hutch, I remember your pain at losing your sister to cancer, I,

too, lost my sister and my mother to cancer as well as many dear friends. I also have many friends fighting cancer as I write this. No matter what name this misfit posts under it cannot hide the misery within himself. Only someone so totally disgusted with themselves could spew such garbage. My mother and sister were both wonderful people who always helped others--they died painful deaths. According to Pigparts, am I to assume this was God punishing them for some wrong? I am always sickened by those who claim to know what God is thinking and why things happen as they do.
If it follows the usual pattern we will not hear from this vile excuse for a person for sometime--til they figure everyone's distaste at the posts die down. That is always the coward's way.

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I'm right here, sweetcheeks

I'm right here, sweetcheeks.

Got something you want to say to me?

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No can do, Hutch

I wouldn't know, Hutch, I never met your sister. And furthermore, I never claimed that anyone/everyone who got cancer 'deserved' it, your smug innuendo notwithstanding. The Lord works in mysterious ways.

If you want to believe it's a "coincidence" that grubby Herman Cain got a life threatening illness shortly after he bragged about removing health insurance from his employees, by all means "continue to march". I, however, decline to believe in "coincidence".

I will say, though, that when you play the "My Poor Dead Relative" card to advance your political position, you weaken your argument. It's a cheap appeal to emotion.

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Bacon
Chris P. Bacon wrote:

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God gave Herman Cain a cancer in his colon so that he might amply use that fantastic health insurance Cain had been bragging about.

God is not mocked.

Then he said

Chris P. Bacon wrote:

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If you want to believe it's a "coincidence" that grubby Herman Cain got a life threatening illness shortly after he bragged about removing health insurance from his employees, by all means "continue to march". I, however, decline to believe in "coincidence".

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You said this, but never claimed? What a liar and a hypocrite, all in one post.

You Sir, are a disgusting piece of shit, you tell me where, anywhere here I have put my political position out here. If it's not coincidence for Herman, it's not coincidence for anyone. The fact is you said something stupid, that you can't back up, you let your fat mouth run on, and now you try to justify it. Screw you asshole, just to let you know, before you start crying to Cal over the terms of service, you can't have it both ways, it's either coincidence or divine justice, and if it's divine justice, you've insulted millions of people. You're a coward BJ, a loud mouthed coward, and a bully. Now if you want to get in my face, just like you offered for Darth whats his name, here's my schedule for tomorrow, about 8:30 I will be at the Starbucks here in Fayetteville, then I'll be at the Parade through Fayetteville, then I'll be anywhere you'd like me to be asshole, anywhere. Up to you tough guy.

Just in case my tenure here on the "C" is over, goodbye friends, it's been mostly fun. I've met a lot of great friends here, then I've met people like Basmati,sniffles or Bacon, or whatever his name is this week.

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Another logical fallacy
hutch866 wrote:

You said this, but never claimed? What a liar and a hypocrite, all in one post.

You Sir, are a disgusting piece of shit, you tell me where, anywhere here I have put my political position out here. If it's not coincidence for Herman, it's not coincidence for anyone. The fact is you said something stupid, that you can't back up, you let your fat mouth run on, and now you try to justify it.

Yet another logical fallacy. This time it's the fallacy of hasty generalization

"If it's not coincidence for Herman, it's not coincidence for anyone".

What a joke.

Consider this application of your logical fallacy:
Barack Obama is President of the United States.
Barack Obama is not white.
Therefore, all Presidents of the United States are not white.

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Bacon

You never answered my question, like always, deflect, change the topic, tell me loudmouth, where I put any politics in my question to you. It was a simple question, but you took only part of post. I stand by my statement.

BTW, in reference to your link, I never said anything about a population, I was talking about your lying self.

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Hutch

We both know that you tried to throw a pre-emptive strike at me by playing the "My Poor Dead Relative" card.

We've seen this crass little gambit before, someone trying to unilaterally shut down discussion by bringing up some poor dead relative. "Oh NOE! HOW DARE YOU bring up (drunk drivers/the death penalty/cancer) because my poor (wife/sister/best friend) was (hit by a driver/murdered/killed by cancer)!"

And when I wouldn't indulge your little pity party, you had one of your patented hissy fits. Yeah, you're outraged, etc etc.

If you want to cheapen your dead sister's memory by using her to make a political talking point, that's your business. Personally, I wouldn't stoop that low, but that's just me. I have standards.

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AGAIN I ask you to show me where I've put anything political out there, you can't, you know it, so you avoid the question.

Oh yeah, tomorrow I'll also be at the library and will eat lunch at Wings and Things, would love to see your lying cowardly self.

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Bacon, Cain & Godfather's Pizza

No idea if the claim about discontinuing Health Insurance is true or not but here are some things he did to bring the Co. from an $8M loss the yr before he took over to profitability in 2 yrs:
..settled outstanding lawsuits
..laid off employees
..closed non-profitable units
..established delivery svcs
..introduced new Pizzas

And his Cancer was stage IV in both colon & liver. So do you estimate he had devine help in survival too? I'm sorry you lead such a miserable life that you feel inclined to belittle the documented accomplishments of a hugely successful American citizen.

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Bacon - you

are quite amazing letting us know what caught God's attention and to let us know that God is not mocked.

Have you been talking to God lately?

If not, you should ask for forgiveness next time you do.

I forgive you for your hubris......show us how bright you are and drop this defense of the indefensible remarks you made. Move on to more entertaining insults.

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Krispie - Queen of Hate

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Get back on your meds Bacon

You are way over the line and it's disgusting.

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Bacon,

Having had 6 inches of my colon removed for cancer, I find your post rather insulting. You know cancer is a rather serious ordeal.

We expect better out of you. Please don't let us down.

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Bacon

I have lost three people in my immediate family to colon cancer, one was my grandmother who I worshiped, Bacon you can be a complete idiot at times....maybe most of the time.

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Bacon Spews Hatred

What a vile despicable thing to say about a great man. People see through your hate so keep spewing your venom, it should help get a fine man elected. http://www.hermancain.com/ -GP

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Bacon

Disgusting.

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Cal, I apologize for starting Bacon on his rant

All I did was mention Herman Cain as a possible candidate for President and Bacon/bonkers goes off a tasteless rant which spawned some very real and heartfelt replies. Can we do something on this forum about idiots with a keyboard?

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Mr. Bacon

What an outrageous statement. I am surprised so many gave it credence by responding.

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Bacon, Ain't Fun No More

Woo, Bacon, I sure am glad I didn't get involved with this one. Me thinks you have gone above and beyond all reasoning. Maybe we need an attitude adjustment here.

Speaking from experience, Bacon, cancer ain't fun!

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Bacon

That would be George Washington and Calvin Cooledge. One for leadership and one for doing nothing.....in a perfect world

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If I May....

...Seeing that our President is likely (and should) to dump Joe Biden, the number of reasons to do so far outweigh those against, and Ms Clinton will swallow enough pride to be the nunning mate. Their opponents with any chance of success would be Romney/Rubio mainly because of accomplishments and a lack of Beltway cronyism.

I admit this to be somewhat a stretch, but at least we get the first stringers going up against one another. In 2008, the GOP nominee would have been crushed by Clinton much worse than was done by Mr Obama (something the right won't admit).

Should Mr Obama select Ms Clinton, assuming she accepts, would virtually assure reelection and Democratic control of the White House for quite possibly three more terms. Control of both Houses of Congress will likely revert to GOP control primarily because the middle 60% of Americans are realizing that long serving Members are simply impediments to progress.

Ther just might be hope for America yet.

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2012

President Obama will be reelected no matter who is his running mate.
The Democrats will probably take back some seats but still be in the minority in the House and will hold on to a small majority in the Senate. INHO.

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swac

On this you could be right, the Republicans are known for self destructive behavior. Giving McCain the nod is just one example of this. McCain is a good man, but he could not have won against any democrat.

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Republican history

Let's take a look at Republican nominees since the Great Conservative Awakening of 1980:

  • 1980: Reagan. Fundie Approved. Big Business Approved. Result: ELECTED
  • 1984: Reagan. Fundie Approved. Big Business Approved. Result: ELECTED
  • 1988: Bush. Fundie Rejected. Big Business Approved. Result: ELECTED
  • 1992: Bush. Fundie Rejected. Big Business Approved. Result: LOST
  • 1996: Dole. Fundie Rejected. Big Business Approved. Result: LOST
  • 2000: Dubya. Fundie Approved. Big Business Approved. Result: SELECTED
  • 2004: Dubya. Fundie Approved. Big Business Approved. Result: ELECTED
  • 2008: McCain. Fundie Rejected. Big Business Approved. Result: LOST

As you can see, only once in the past 30 years has a candidate been elected without "Fundie Approval", Bush in 1988, and that was arguably a referendum on "Reagan's third term".

Viewed through this lens, Romney The Mormon is out. Fundies simply will not support a Mormon. This paves the way for Huckabee, imho.

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Forgot about Rubio

He would be good when paired with the NJ governor as in Christie/Rubio. That would be a potential winner, although I think the Republicans will still be hung up on abortion and religion when pushing nominees and that's not going to be a winning strategy. We need a Reagan-like ticket to follow Obama's Carter-like performance.

The Dems are hoping for Gingrich/Palin since that would guarantee Prezbo 4 more years.

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Reagan type?

These two----Gingrich/Palin?

They couldn't muster 25%! Will not be nominated even.

This would be like Abbot and Costello running the country. I would even prefer Perdue!

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Yea, I know. That is why the Dems want them

Republicans need to be smarter than letting the Dems pick their candidates - and that's what is happening now with all that demonizing of Palin. The Dems are acting (and it is acting) scared of Palin in the hope that the Republicans will be stupid enough to nominate her. Same thing with Gingrich will happen once he gets serious about running. The Dems would love to see either one or both on the ticket.

A true conservative candidate that looks as if he (yes, he) can cure the economy and shrink government is the only chance to oust Obama. Huckabee, Romney, Palin, Gingrich are not the answer - that's just another McCain. And the Republicans have to take the blame for Obama getting elected. If they had selected a stronger ticket, we wouldn't be talking about all his. Giving it McCain because it was "his turn" and selecting Palin as an antidote to Hilary (when everyone thought she would be the nominee) was just plain stupid. No need to repeat that mistake.

Obama won't have the young zombies or the black vote tied up in 2012 like he did last time and he's already lost a ton of unemployed independents, so it is the Republican's year - if they don't screw it up with pitiful nominees like they did last time.

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Republicans cycle

Republicans often cycle 2 fundies, 2 big business: Reagan (2 fundie), Bush/Dole(3 big business), Dubya (2 fundie) and McCain (1 big business). If the cycle holds, and it should, we're looking at an uninspiring big business candidate for the Republicans in 2012, which means Romney.

Whoever the Republican is in 2012 will most likely get slaughtered by Obama: think...Dole 96. Republicans usually, but not always, pick the 'elder statesman' (Dubya the lone exception).

Dubya did a lot of bad things in his presidency but one positive thing he did do was to tamp down the hatred most Republicans seem to have for Hispanics....unfortunately for the Repubs, that influence is now gone and Repubs freely admit their hatred for all things Hispanic (aka "Brown is the new Black"). Expect Hispanics to vote in overwhelming numbers for President Obama.

It'll be interesting to see if Obama can turn out the youth vote (under 30) again. If he does, it'll be a rout, if he doesn't, it'll merely be a win.

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Uuuuh bonkers, he already lost the youth vote

You know, the ones who were voting for Obama because the would get free TV's or cars or houses or no mortgage payments. Even the dumbest among them must have noticed that they didn't get their handouts and they won't be voting in 2012. Most will be disinterested, some will be in prison and others will have been deported.

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Mike King & Nominees

I don't mind Romney, but if we're gonna have a Mormon (no problem here), I rather it be Jon Huntsman, Jr.--and I like Rubio but believe he needs more seasoning. Pawlenty or former Gov of Indiana (Daniels) would work for me.

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Gym

I will look into this Huntsman guy, But for Rubio, my choice is for the least amount of Beltway cronyism possible.

Getting close to beer-thirty.

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Mike King & Jon Huntsman, Jr.

I'll give you a head start:
Google "The Huntsman Corporation" and "The Huntsman Cancer Institute"--that will give you starters on the Huntsman family. Jon Jr. is current US Ambassador to China; speaks at least 2 dialects of Chinese, was elected twice as Gov of Utah; Lived n Taipei for a yr as a businessman; got 5 kids. How's that for starters.

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AtHomeGym, I’d be surprised

AtHomeGym, I’d be surprised if Ambassador Huntsman was nominated by the Republican’s. He currently works in the Obama Administration and he signed into law the Utah Health Exchange when he was governor. He's not exactly the firebrand that would encourage the base of the Republican Party in the primaries.

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Gort & Huntsman

You may be right but I like him.

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Reverse Psychology?

I don't think you mean what you say above! This is a case of "I'll propose a ridiculous scheme and that will rise up the nincompoops and help the general situation!

Hillary Clinton will not run for vice-president. It would be a waste of time for her and a miss to earn some real money. She might run for President if Obama stumbles.

Joe Biden will not be dumped. He is a great help to Obama. He can handle projects without being micro-managed. He might choose not to run as he is working his tail off.

Romney is a joke. He can not win. He might accept Vice-President if asked, which he won't be. He has never worked a day in his life and probably still drives a Nash! His religion has little to do with anything.

Who the heck is Rubio?

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Palin

Over the past 2 years I have watched Sarah Palin prove to America that she is too immature and implusive to serve our country in any capacity. Her outbreaks, poorly timed comments, inability to answer tough questions should be proof enough to most if not all of us. Serving as President is not an easy job. I respect Ms Palin for her tenacity but I reject her due to her lack of qualifications.

I also believe that Americans should take pause at her recent comment BLOOD LIBEL. Being of the Jewish faith, there is no excuse for her use of that term....it is very specific and targeted towards a specific religion. This is as offensive as when people draw references to the Nazi party on some minor point, possibly given them credence without reference the true devastastion and pain that they caused.

I am a proud American, I served for my country and I am a political conservative but I lost over 50% of my family in SHOAH and it offends me when people refer to the NAZIS and/or uses the term BLOOD LIBEL. It should be offensive to EVERY American.

Sarah Palin needs to apologize to America for making that comment and by admitting that she either used it knowing what it meant or that she is immature and was not aware of it gravity.

In conclusion, I would be writing this response no matter what my political beliefs are...and no matter who used the term BLOOD LIBEL. It does not matter if it was said by a conservative, democratic, progressive, Tea Party, Socialist, Communist..it is wrong. If it was used by the current President, it would send the same message to me, that he is unfit to serve.

The Holocaust DID occur contrary to a select few who deny it now, millions of people were killed, not only Jews. And the term BLOOD LIBEL is a real too!

GOD BLESS AMERICA. Americans come in all sizes, shapes, colors, political and religious beliefs, and we all need to remember that!

I hope that those of you blogging here remember that and consider toning down your rhetoric that same way our representatives in Washington DC need to. Where is the civility?

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GAlant - Palin

Ignore her because most do, she's a twit. Not even the TP can get on board with her. She is the darling of the neo-conservatives, not America.

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Palin derangement syndrome now eclipses Bush derangement syndrom

I am a proud Republican and would not support Fmr govHuckabee or fmr Gov Palin .

Personally, I thought McCain much like Bob Dole was the wrong man to run on the republican side. As for Palin, i do admire her " Plain Spoken " tone towards politics, but i do question her ability to assume a job that I believe has become tougher in the past 2 decades that at anytime in out history. Yes, the liberal press in my opinion went after her and her family with zeal and hatred. the attacks on her, the stories and the set ups to make her look dumb were expected. Way, given the level of discourse we witnessed from those who were against Bush, well we could see the pattern. From Al " Poor loser " Gore's " Brown Shirt " attacks to the emperor has no clothes attacks from Nancy Pelosi, we know what is coming. If Palin decides to run again, she will no doubt endure more of the same. Comedian Kathy Griffith has stated her next target is willow Palin, so we know how rude and hateful the attacks will be.

I didn't vote for Obama, but whomever is in office, they are the president and I respect the office. But, that doesn't mean we can get ready for 2010, because this administration has shown little respect for the will of the people. Shoving health-care down our throats, misstating the true facts about it cost, the mishandling of the economy, the continued Obama apology tour to Muslim nations is just one of many factors that has me questioning his ability to lead. Week after week , we read and hear of more plans from this administration to take control of the free market and impose its rule of law on business. We've know for years Democrats hate big business, and favor unions. But my fellow Americans, unions don't create jobs! unions have become yet another arm of the democratic party. along with the NAACP who continue to violate its 501C status and run political ads against Republican candidates.

Only a democratic President can tell those who disagree with him to get in the back of the bus. If that comment would have come from the mouth of ANY Republican there would have been 1 hour specials run on NBC, MSNBC, CNN, condemning the remarks.

The level of discourse has sunk to new lows and in my humble opinion can be traced back to the Democrats who openly support hate speech, while trying to sell the country rotten outdated ideas. So back and read any speech over the past decade from the left, you'll see endless attacks, made up facts to support failing ideas. Obama is not the one we were looking for, we were looking for a leader with a backbone, he doesn't fit the bill.

Obama has never run a business and had little experience when he ran for the office.Obama ran for the Senate to set up his run for the Presidency. Now we see what we get after electing one of the most unqualified men in history, next to Jimmy Carter!

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Gene61--wrong

Just a couple points in response to your post.

The Democrats did not "shove" healthcare reform down our throats. The American people voted for President Obamna, a Democratic Senate, and a Democratic House of Representatives by large majorities. Those elected responded with healthcare reforms which Democrats had advocated for openly for years. To do anything less would have been to ignore the will of the American people. If you did not agree, fine--but you lost the election. Obama did indeed respct the "will of the people."

It is irrelevant that "Obama has never run a business." Government is not a business. It is, well,--a government. And government has different responsiblities and purposes than a business whose goal is to make a profit.

I could go on and on because your post contains so much nonsense. But this is enough for now.

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Agreed enough of the nonsense

but you will just post more.

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Bunk OOU

You live in a fantasy world. Most of the ethics complaints against Palin were dropped when she abandoned her office in mid-term. Others like the complaint about her legal defense fund, were settled when she returned the money. Some she beat because they had no basis. Sarah was criticized over her wardrobe because she lied about it, claiming that she had no idea that the campaign had spent $50,000 on her clothes.

You can interpret her decision to leave the Governorship as some heroic gesture to strike back but in fact she was just another politician resigning to avoid her ethics scandals. When things got tough, she crumbled.

And all that common talk you are so enthralled with? The firsts to be horrified was the McCain campaign when, after they nominated her, they found out that she was almost totally ignorant about almost everything. Their worse nightmare was that she might hold a press conference because they knew she would say something unbelievably stupid. It was an entertaining wonder to watch the lengths they went to to be sure that nobody asked her a question.

Compare Obama's speech at the memorial service to her whinny YouTube speech. It was embarrassing; pointing up another flaw: her advisers are second and third rate thinkers like she is herself.

She's ignorant about the issues and to lazy to study up and get knowledgeable enough to hold her own in a debate or a press conference without knowing the questions in advance. She's not stupid though. She's found her niche and is making a ton of money reciting banalities to her fellow travelers. Good for her! She knows that she's not qualified, knows that she isn't going to make the effort to study the issues, knows that she can't take the heat, and knows that she cannot win.

She's not going to run for President.

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JeffC agreed she will not run

and why should she?

As to the ethic charges as I said NOT one was ever prosecuted. Now that my dear Jeff is a fact. Rather they were dropped or dismissed matters little.
The fact is it was simply a progressive attack trying to break her.

She didn't break did she?

Oh btw- your and the other libs continued attacks on her knowledge and speech flubs... Have you listened to Joe Biden lately?

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She broke OOU

Of course she broke. She resigned her office as Governor. How many other Governors have ever resigned in mid-term.

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How many VP cadidates...

......who caused the Presidential candidate to lose, have made multi-million dollars quickly with stupid books and speeches, and before the world forgot who she was?
This happened due to the RW republicans needing a front for their overall ridiculous ideas.

She is so stupid that she would go along with the new Governor of Georgia to add a large sales tax with what we already pay in order to eliminate corporate and wealthy taxes; also she would build another star wars fence at the Mexican border.
Just Yesterday after a BILLION dollars spent for 53 miles of such a thing as cameras on high stilts failed to function, did they drop it forever.

The other 2000 miles provide climbing exercises every day for thousands of Mexicans to climb into the USA! However she sure would talk about such stuff and get some votes!

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I would call it a Strategic Disengagement

to consolidate ones position to prepare for the attack.

She doesn't appear broken to me, but what the heck do I know.

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PTC Observer - thank you but its very hard to ignore

PTC Observer...thank you for kind words but it hard to ignore, especially when there are a few bloggers on this site who appear to be skating to the edge of the ice, falling short of what I would call covert anti-Semitism.

Let's recap those comments from the past month:

1-Recent attack on George Soro, an international Jewish banker. First, blaming him for pulling Obama's strings, but what was offensive was the comparison to the Weimar Republic in 1920s Germany. What was not said by this blogger is that one of Hitler's platforms was to blame the international Jewish banking community and German Jewish bankers for weakening Germany during this timeperiod. Hitler used this idea to spur anti-Semitism in Germany to allow him follow his agenda for the total extermination of European Jewry.

2-Recent comments comparing the the left's approach to communication with reference to Joseph Goebbels who was the proganda minister for the Nazis. What was interesting was the identification of a propanda style developed by a Jewish psychiatrist who was a associate of Sigmond Freud. Also Jewish. Why is anyone making reference to the Nazis in any manner? Why?

3-The recent defense of Sarah Palin, blaming attacks from the left just after she used the term BLOOD LIBEL, a highly offensive and extremely targeted term that defines the idea that Jews in the Middle Ages kidnapped and killed Christian children to smear their blood on Jewish doorsteps during the celebration of Passover.

Is any of this a coincidence?...

What makes this country great is it diversity of people and ideas. GOD BLESS AMERICA!

If the words I write here are a surprise to anyone, then use this as a moment to reflect that America is diverse and that some of rhetoric posted on this blog can offend others....why is it being written? is it intentionally or out of shear ignorance and lack of concern for others. Also, why the fixation on Soros, Nazis and the defending of Sarah Palin after such a horrific comment that is not defendable AT ALL!

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The thing is GAltant

That they most likely don't realize it. I'd bet anything that Palin didn't have a clue about the meaning of "blood libel".

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You are probably correct...it proves her inability to serve. Some believe she has the right to defend herself which she does, but she also needs to know how not to offend people in the process. BLOOD LIBEL has only 1 definition.

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Speaking of "didn't have a clue about the meaning"

Did you notice the Washington Times had an editorial this past Wednesday accusing Jews who didn't like the phrase "Blood Libel" being used of conducting a pogrom against conservatives?

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GAltant you should learn a little history

instead of talking points.

1. George Soros has collapsed the economies of 4 different country's.
George Soros actually bragged about it in an interview. Now GAltant let me ask you a question. What do you think would happen if the dollar was worthless tomorrow morning when you woke up?
Do you think you would be able to purchase food, fuel and other essentials like meds? Do you know how many people died as a result of Soros crashing the currency causing the collapse?
There are Countries that have said Soros is an International criminal for the deaths he caused and he laughs about when he was interviewed.
http://www.unitypublishing.com/Government/DeptSoveriegn.htm

Yet you defend him?

2. Bernays was first and foremost a PROGRESSIVE. Facts are just what they are. Goebals learned propaganda from Wilson and Benays. You trying to somehow say reporting said facts as somehow anti-semitic is laughable.

3. Get over Palin already. Your's and the Progressive obsession with her and what she may or even may not have said is bordering on the psychotic.
The smoke had not even cleared in Arizona before the left started blaming Palin. If she defends herself she is attacked. If she doesn't she's attacked for not denying the charges. The left would see it as weakness and close in for the kill.

When you become Head Detective of the thought and word police let us know please so we may consult you and the other whining liberal progressives on just what we are allowed to say and think.

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Observofu = Anti-Semite?

I guess your ego forces you to respond.

I think it time for you come clean and just admit that you are Anti-Semite!

Clearly your parallels fall short of overt anti-Semitism but its easy to see where you are heading with your extensive blogs on George Soro and then your immediate reference to the Weimar Republic...Did you not know that Soro was Jewish? Did you not know that Hitler blamed the Jewish bankers for the hyper-inflation and the weakness of Germany at that time on the Jewish bankers which allowed him to set the wheels in motion that led to the Holocaust?

What is your facination with Nazis? and why quote them as a means to attack progressives?

And of your defense of Palin...do you know what BLOOD LIBEL means?

Your answers to these questions will show either your lack of awareness of others/stupidity in your comments or your clear intentions as to the parallels you draw.

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GAltant if you can't win an argument with facts and arguments

I guess calling the other a rascist or on this case anti-semitic is the next course of action for the progressive.

First let me clue you in.. 1. Yes I know Soros is Jewish and 2. What does that have to do with the price of eggs in china?

Do you have a point or are you just parroting the Daily Kos arguing points today?

btw- You have said "Blood Libel" several times are you Jewish are you a Holocaust survivor? If not then you don't have the right to say it either using your logic.

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Sir:

Your parallels are very clear in your blogs. This is about identifying the true fact that you are Anti-Semitic....you just don't want to admit it.

This is not an argument, it is an identification of what you are!

Yes, I am Jewish..I lost both sets of grandparents and my father, about 50% of my family in the death camps. My mother had the numbers tatooed on her arm.

Any other questions?

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Edited Galtant after further review

your opinions are no different then mine we differ is all.
First just because I have exposed here just some of Soros highly suspicious activities is not in any way being anti-semitic.

You may or may not be Jewish. If that is what you wish to claim to be then fine however that would make you about impossible to be alive today if as you say your Grandparents and FATHER where taken in the Holocaust since it was 1933-1945 but I digress.

You throw the anti-semitic charge like Jessie Hymietown Jackson throws out the racist charge. It is only true if it is true.

I have been to Israel 3 times I saw the falls of Nachal Arugot and the Golden dome of Har Habayit. Have you?

So I think the charge of being an anti-Semite is ridiculous don't you?

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Soros

Not liking and exposing Soros makes one anti-semitic? Give me a break. How about this word, antisorosnewworldorderspookydude? Is that one OK? Israel needs to re-think who it's real friends are and here's a news-flash, it is not the current administration. At least I think Bebe gets it after the rude humiliation/snubbing last year. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/25/president-allegedly-dumps-isr... -GP

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GP I know

I have never understood why the Jewish population is so in bed with the democrats. They (dems) have never supported them and constantly attack Israel over their IDF and handling of terrorist.

The Republicans have always stood with Israel and supported their cause.

Bacon's attacks on Israel here is a classic example of the left's perception and disdainfulness of the Jewish population, but yet the Jewish population votes democrat most of the time.

Perplexing to say the least and finally GAltant's reaction to exposing someone who has rejected their heritage and has become a threat to America is perplexing as well.

Just because someone mentions the crimes Nazi's committed and/or exposes someone who happens to be Jewish somehow doing so is anti-semitic?

Frankly the "blood libel" deal is blown way out of proportion. Has anyone ever heard of it before? So now if any non-Jewish person says anything connected to the Holocaust or Nazi it is now off limits?

The Nation of the Offended speaks again I guess.

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I have never understood why the Jewish population is so in bed with the democrats. They (dems) have never supported them and constantly attack Israel over their IDF and handling of terrorist

This is why we need a more in depth study of history. Your 'understanding' is based on a limited exposure to the many different interpretations/perceptions of historical facts. One may not agree with perceptions of 'facts' - but exposure to more than one perception may help with 'understanding'.

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Study history and those that were involved and you will be surprised what you find:

David Ben-Gurion:

“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”

As quoted in The Jewish Paradox : A personal memoir (1978) by Nahum Goldmann (translated by Steve Cox), p. 99. ISBN 0-448-15166-9

That pretty much sums it up.

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It sums up that he has an UNDERSTANDING of how Arab leaders feel/felt in 1978. Good Lord - what some of our leaders said in 1978 does not represent the reality of today. These are two populations with a similar heritage and different beliefs that have been forced to live together on the same land by those of an entirely different cultural background. They are making progress - and what someone said in 1978 is good for UNDERSTANDING - but does not pave the way to a solution (other than complete annihilation of one or both civilizations). Peaceful co-existence should be the goal – not continued death and destruction. By the way - not at all surprised at being reminded of what Ben-Gurion said. He was a realist - and showed that he did understand. Israel has always believed that the US would 'protect' them. They now understand that the US will not support them in destroying another culture in order for Israel to take over the entire region,

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Governments are not countries, Gee Pee

Governments are not countries.

The current Israeli government is controlled by fascist-in-all-but-name Likkudite hardliners. They are not honorable people.

They committed horrific attacks on Palestinian civilians on November 4, 2008, correctly surmising that the American press would be too preoccupied with the election of Barack Obama to notice.

They attempted to get President Obama to agree with their hardline expansionist policies and were rebuffed. In one of the great political miscalculations of the past 30 or so years, they figured that President Obama was extremely politically weakened last March over the long battle of health care reform...and very publicly presented the EXACT SAME expansionist foreign policy proposal to Obama, figuring he was so weak that he'd accede to their demands due to the need for a "foreign policy victory".

They misjudged the man.

Obama not only dismissed their crude posturing out of hand, but let the world know that the United States was tired of Likkudite posturing by delivering a very public snub to little Bebe.

President Obama delivered a very public rebuke to the government of Israel and the world took notice (not so much in the myopic self-centered United States).

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Anti-Israel Retoric

After all the rocket fire you have the gaul to claim Israel defending herself is, quote(your words) "horrific attacks"? What about the TERRORIST attacks ON Israel? Israel isn't trying to expand, Israel is trying to survive and with the help of God will. Your anti-Israel retoric proves my point, you should just go on over and join your Palestinian friends. Why the Jewish community continues to support the democratic party is beyond me, hopfully they will wake up in 2012. -GP

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Anti-Zionism is not Anti-Israel

Not surprisingly, you're conflating support for Zionism with support for Israel.

These are two separate and distinct concepts.

HERE is a primer on why many American Jews don't support Zionism

Edited to add:
Your comment about 'Israel is not trying to expand' is not supported by facts.

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Israel isn't trying to expand,

Really.

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Just look at all the outrage here!

My, my, my, will you just look at all the outrage in this thread!

Just because I brought up the fact that God gave grubby short-fingered vulgarian Herman 'profits before people' Cain a whack with His ole cancer stick!

Tsk.

God's poetic justice aside, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised at all the hothouse flowers a-wilting here given the nature of the Citizen's core demographic: affluent white folks over 50. Quite a number of you have had one or more relatives succumb to cancer, some of you are cancer survivors yourself!

Cancer is not pretty, is it?

People suffer a great deal from cancer, and people suffer a great deal watching people suffer from cancer.

How traumatic it must be to watch loved ones waste away, without access to medical care, dying in agony in pools of filth and decay!

Oh wait....not everyone passes from cancer this way!

SOME of you, courtesy of the best medical care that money can buy, get heroic efforts from the medical establishment trying to remove these cancers.

SOME of you, again courtesy of the best medical care that money can buy, can afford to be kept pain-free when the cancer overwhelms your body or those of your loved ones...

And yet....

And yet....

Some of the same people here who are outraged....OUTRAGED, dammit!...that ole Bacon had the temerity to even MENTION cancer here, are the same people who would deny government-paid medical coverage to cancer victims who can't afford treatment.

"We can't afford it!" they squeal. "Profits before people!"

Here's a novel thought: No person should suffer for the ideological purity of another.

I hope these people who recall their loved ones dying of cancer...and who would deny medical care to others who cannot afford it....someday recognize the sheer and utter hypocrisy of their position.

In any event, the world will be a better place once grubby Herman Cain shuffles off the mortal coil.

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Bacon welcome

Back, unapologetic and defending the indefensible.

Clue, it's not about healthcare, it's about you Bacon. Clean up your act or no one will interact with you here no matter how outrageous you are.

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I've got nothing to apologize for
PTC Observer wrote:

Back, unapologetic and defending the indefensible.

Clue, it's not about healthcare, it's about you Bacon. Clean up your act or no one will interact with you here no matter how outrageous you are.

I've got nothing to apologize for.

Don't like what I'm saying? That's fine, as I see it folks have three fundamental choices:

1. Respond
2. Don't Respond
3. Whine to the moderator that your feelings are hurt

p.s. I find a special delicious irony in you of all people lecturing someone on 'defending the indefensible'!

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The personal attack on Herman Cain diluted your point of the hypocrisy. Cyclist said it best. You can do better.

Fortunately , Oou does not speak for all participants.

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Dm wrong observer

but I agree anyway. Bacon is done. Burnt to a crisp and not just for this reason.

http://www.thecitizen.com/node/5259#comment-20587
See comment #12

He has become unhinged. To vulgar for any reasonable discussion.

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Cancer Comment Exceeded

by this "In any event, the world will be a better place once grubby Herman Cain shuffles off the mortal coil.". Your HATE for the man is obvious. Wishing him dead is beyond the pale. You are have no decency and are despicable. -GP

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Chris Bacon-Israel

Every day you wake up you should say a thank you to Israel because they do the dirty work for America in the Middle East! You think Israel does anything against the Arab world that the US does not know about or approve?

Read this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/16/world/middleeast/16stuxnet.html?_r=1&p...

It was also reported in other newspapers and wire services throughout Europe and the US. Israel is the US's first line of defense against Iran and other terrorist groups and do not you forget that.

If the Palestinians want peace and a separate state, then they need to come to the table in an organized manner..but they can't and don't. Why..for over 30 year Arafat was lining his pockets on preventing that from happening. That bastard stole over $100 million in US financial aid and kept it in a Swiss Bank account. The new authority got some of that money back from his widow. And now, you have Syria and Iran supporting Hezbollah and Hamas. The same 2 countries who support Bin Ladin's merry band of terrorists and the offshoots of that group.

Do you actually believe that Syria and Iran care about the Palestinian people? Do you think Hamas and Hezbollah care about the Palestinian people? Do you this Arafat cared for the Palestisinian people? How many Arab countries have come to the resue of their fellow Arabs in Palestine? True resue, such as absorbing them and not forcing them to on their borders in refugee camps after 50 years?

Israel would sign a permanent peace treaty and recognize Palestine in a heartbeak...and most Palestinians would too. It's Iran and Syria and their terror groups who will not allow it because of their own agendas for power in the region.

Learn the history before you jump into silly rhetoric....AND be thankful that Israel exists....she is protecting you!

You try living surrounded by millions of people who want to destroy you?

The Lukud Party has always taken a tough position in their negotiations but they have always remained open to negotiate it. People in Israel want peace but that is possible until Syria and Iran stop meddling in.

And regarding the recent war...it was Hezbollah who started the inital shelling and started the war, and it was Hezbollah who hide long range Syrian and Iranian rockets in schools and hospitals...was that caring for the average Palestinian? That was to force the war into the streets so that Israel, to protect itself, would be forced to bomb civilians so folks like you can carry on...

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I'm curious, why should Jordan, Syria and Egypt take in the Palestinians? Don't the Palestinians have "their" own land?

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It was the these Arab nations who called upon the Palestinians to rise up against the Jews and fight with them against the establishment of the State of Israel on May 14, 1948. Promises were made and broken by these nations....

Now, today with possiblity of a Palentisian state, 2 of these countries meddle in the affairs of the Palestinians preventing the establishment of an independent state.

As far as your question..I guess it depends if you accept the UN Resolution providing the Jewish people with a homeland....

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Promises made and broken. I know what you mean. The Arabs were promised via the Hussein-McMahon Correspondence that the United Kingdom would support Arab independence if they revolted against the Ottomans during WWI. The United Kingdom and France then reneged on the original deal and divided up the area in ways unfavourable to the Arabs under the 1916 Sykes-Picot Agreement. Further confusing the issue was the Balfour Declaration of 1917, which promised support for a Jewish "national home" in Palestine.

David Ben-Gurion was right about the prospect of peace in the region.

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Agreed, its a long history of disasters, as you pointed out the curent configuration is based upon boundaries drawn by Western nations which is why so much conflict can exist within a current nation.

There is no solution, only the hope that a 2 state solution can be reached..and we might be closer than ever before.

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Cyclist: Palestinians

The people called Palestinians at one time owned land that is now owned by Egypt, Jordan, and other countries there in tha area.

When Britain mangled the areas to suit themselves and then left--the most powerful who ere left there started what we have now.

Even Lawrence of Arabia didn't help very much in that area (Africa) when he really couldn't understand Arab thinking---if they have any that is applicable to world thinking.

Jordan was the most suitable place for Palestinians but no one wanted a "Palestine" again. Kings come and go and eventually die out totally. As will Saudi Arabia whe the oil is gone or made obsolete.

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GAltant on this we truly agree

Some here would call the daily life under threat of death just dumb luck and poor judgement.

Some here would call the Rockets fired by Hezbollah falling on CIVILIAN targets as an act of Israeli aggression.

Some are just plain idiots.

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