Republican make a pledge to America

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jackyldo
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Is this different than Newt's contract with America ?
for your information let's look at their points..

Barack Obama has already proposed a spending freeze in 2011.

Democrats tried to reistate Pay-Go, Republicans, shockingly, voted it down.

Obama has already instituted the biggest tax DECREASES in modern American history.

The Federal government is already prohibited from funding abortions.

There is no mandate in the health care law. There IS a tax credit if you buy insurance. you don't get that credit if you don't buy insurance. That's it.

Oh, and the deficit is down 8%.

Republicans have just promised to give you everything the Democrats already have. They jusy want credit.

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Federal Funding of Abortions
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The Federal government is already prohibited from funding abortions.

Somebody needs to explain that to Pelosi and the other wackos that wanted the very same thing in the House version of Obama Care.

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Obama Care ? why so nasty

Obama Care ?
why so nasty ??
don't you like.
Starting today, insurers will be required to:

* Keep you covered when you get sick: Simple mistakes or typos will no longer be grounds for insurance companies to cancel your insurance.
* Cover kids with pre-existing conditions: Your kids can no longer be denied health coverage just because they have a pre-existing condition like hay fever, asthma, or previous sports injuries. This protection extends to all plans, except "grandfathered" plans in the individual market.
* Allow young adults to stay on their parents' plan up to age 26: Even if their first few jobs don't provide health benefits, your kids can still remain covered by your insurance.
* Remove lifetime limits: You will no longer need to worry about your health insurer limiting the amount of coverage available through their plan if you face an expensive medical condition. This will help Americans who develop chronic conditions from taking drastic measures to avoid medical bankruptcy.
* Phase out annual limits: Many plans include annual dollar limits on how much medical coverage can be obtained per year. On all non-"grandfathered" plans in the individual market, these limits will be phased out over the next three years.

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further to Obamacare

For any insurance plan that goes into effect after September 23, 2010, your insurance company must:

* Pay for preventive care like mammograms and immunizations: Addressing problems before they start can help keep you healthier, and new insurance plans will now cover many preventative tests and immunizations without any copayment.
* Give you a better appeals process for insurance claims: Now you'll have a guaranteed and fair path to help you receive the benefits you paid for if insurance companies deny your claim.
* Let you choose your own doctor: Health reform makes it clear that you can choose any available participating primary care provider as your provider, and any available participating pediatrician to be your child's primary care provider.
* Provide easier access to OB-GYN services: Women will no longer be required to have a referral from a primary care provider before seeking coverage for obstetrical or gynecological (OB-GYN) care from a participating OB-GYN specialist.
* Allow you to use the nearest emergency room without penalty: If an emergency arises while you're away, you will no longer have to drive home to your in-network provider to receive in-network benefits.

Many other new benefits of the law have already taken effect

Health insurance reform helps you

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Obama Care
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Health insurance reform helps you

Are you nuts?

And when those "evil" insurance companies decide to exit the market are you going to be able to afford a day in the hospital? Do you have an extra $10,000 laying around? The problem is the cost of medical services which has not been addressed. This nation spends over $240 million an hour on medical costs and that is climbing. Some very hard choices are looming on the horizon for us.

And BTW, for those few remaining insurance companies do you care to ponder what their premiums will be because of Obama Care?

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Check out health insurance plans
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Davids mom

I avoid anything that asks for my weight!!!! ☺ ☺

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and finally

Despite Fox News telling you so

NO DEATH PANELS

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Call it what you want but

"ANTI-RATIONING AMENDMENT TO HEALTH CARE BILL
DEFEATED 12-10 IN SENATE COMMITTEE

WASHINGTON- The Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee today defeated on a party-line vote an amendment offered by Senator Michael Enzi of Wyoming, the ranking Republican member to the pending health care restructuring bill that would have prevented the use of “comparative effectiveness” research methodologies as a basis for denial of benefits to patients against their will based on their age, expected length of life, or of the patient’s present or predicted disability or quality of life. Senators Enzi, Gregg, Coburn and Burr spoke in favor of the amendment."

Rationing has the same effect.

"For instance, the Reid bill (in sections 3403 and 2021) explicitly empowers Medicare to deny treatment based on cost. An Independent Medicare Advisory Board created by the bill—composed of permanent, unelected and, therefore, unaccountable members—will greatly expand the rationing practices that already occur in the program."

Section 6301 of the Reid bill creates new comparative effectiveness research (CER) programs. CER panels have been used as rationing commissions in other countries such as the U.K., where 15,000 cancer patients die prematurely every year according to the National Cancer Intelligence Network.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870351440457458884277956916...

Let's see a 70 year old needs a treatment that works but is expensive. Medicare says no.. The 70 year old dies as a result. Is that a "Death Panel"?

Progressives say no the Grandchildren would say yes.

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Tom Coburn

There's a fiscal and even SOCIAL conservative Repub that I have a lot of respect for. He puts his voice and votes behind what he believes in, even if that PO's the rest of his party. A principled political is pretty rare and Coburn is one of the few. He's also right a lot more often than his own party and isn't afraid to go against them when they are so wrong.

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13 States sue of a "non-existent" mandate

or at least that is what progressives want you to believe.

jackyldo wrote: "There is no mandate in the health care law. There IS a tax credit if you buy insurance. you don't get that credit if you don't buy insurance. That's it."

"Thirteen state attorneys general — 12 Republicans and one Democrat — signed onto one lawsuit against the U.S. departments of Health and Human Services, Treasury and Labor. The top state lawyers in Florida, South Carolina, Nebraska, Texas, Michigan, Utah, Pennsylvania, Alabama, South Dakota, Louisiana, Idaho, Washington and Colorado joined in the complaint filed immediately after the president's signing ceremony.
A separate lawsuit was also filed by Virginia's Republican attorney general Tuesday.
The issue at the heart of the lawsuit is the constitutionality of the so-called "individual mandate," which requires most Americans to have an insurance plan or else pay a federal penalty."

I guess if you say it often enough you will began to believe it.

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Funny

This is one of the funniest things I have seen in a while. This pathetic loser gets heckled by libs at his own fundraiser - He can't even fill up the room at $50 bucks a head. Note how he instintively immediately begins pointing his finger at Republicans.

What a frigging LOSER!!!

Obama Heckled by Activists at Midtown Fundraiser

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Look beyond the headlines

President Barack Obama was heckled by activists at a fundraiser in New York City on Sept. 22. (Associated Press)

By Ben Fractenberg

DNAinfo Reporter/Producer

MIDTOWN — New York’s a tough crowd, even for the leader of the free world.

President Barack Obama was heckled at a Manhattan fundraiser Wednesday night by a group of activists pushing the repeal of "don’t ask don’t tell" and increased AIDS funding, WNBC-TV reported.

Protesters at the Roosevelt Hotel on East 45th Street reportedly held signs reading "Broken Promises Kill," Politico reported.
Obama Heckled at Manhattan FundraiserProtesters heckled President Obama at a fundraiser at the Roosevelt Hotel in Manhattan on Wednesday, September 22, 2010. (AP/Susan Walsh)

Their biggest gripe seemed to be about Obama’s pledge to repeal "don’t ask don’t tell" so gays and lesbians could start serving openly in the military.

Obama appeared irritated and deviated from his prepared remarks to address the hecklers in the ballroom of the Roosevelt Hotel.

Obama pointed out that that the Republicans recently blocked legislation to repeal the military policy, according to Politico.

"And as a consequence some of those signs should be going up at the other folks’ event," said Obama. "Folks should be hollering at the other folks’ event, because the choice in November could not be clearer."

The fundraiser reportedly raised $1.4 million for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and Senate campaign committee.

Obama's speech to the UN General Assembly Thursday morning was heckler-free, as the president laid out a comprehensive list of his administration's accomplishments since he took office.

"The global economy has been pulled back from the brink of a depression and is growing once more," Obama said, "But we cannot ­ and will not ­ rest until these seeds of progress grow into a broader prosperity for all Americans and for people around the globe."

Obama also praised his administration's efforts to draw down the number of US troops in Iraq and "wage a more effective fight" against terror groups like Al Qaeda and the Taliban.

Read more: http://www.dnainfo.com/20100923/midtown/barack-obama-heckled-by-activist...

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Didn't he say Iraq was the wrong war

but Afghanistan was the Right war?
I believe he also said he would fight it to win.

"A new book by legendary Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward paints President Obama as a commander in chief who's searching for and demanding -- amid fierce internal debate among advisers and military leaders -- an exit strategy from Afghanistan."

What happened to that campaign promise?

"Since the very start of his campaign, Senator Obama has sought to provide political cover to his opposition to the war in Iraq by being explicitly hawkish on Afghanistan. It is not that he is against war, he insists, just the "wrong" war. Iraq is the "wrong" war, Afghanistan the "right" war."

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Obama said

"wage a more effective fight" against terror groups like Al Qaeda and the Taliban - the people who killed 3000 citizens in New York. Aren't we sick of the politicizing of these wars yet? The enemy is not our political parties - but Al Qaeda and the Taliban - remember? What have we gained by fighting each other?

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and where are Al Qaeda and the Taliban?

In Afghanistan.

Obama wants to cut and run now instead of win the war.

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cut and run

once again the cons bring out the tired old rhetoric ,,
Bush invaded let Osama get away and then moved most everyone and most everything to Iraq.
This let Afghanistan fester from 2003 until 2009..
Please indicate to me ANY ANY ANY strategy to win in Afghanistan ??

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Didn't Pelosi and Obama say

they would get Osama? That the Afghanistan war was the right war?

Now that they have the reins it's not so clear cut is it. Rhetoric is easy until you actually have to Govern. Now they want to cut and run and to hell with the troops that have given their all.

Obama has his mop and we have our broom. We are going to sweep the crap out of Washington and send the Progressive back under the rock they came out of.

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cut and run

once again the cons bring out the tired old rhetoric ,,
Bush invaded let Osama get away and then moved most everyone and most everything to Iraq.
This let Afghanistan fester from 2003 until 2009..
Please indicate to me ANY ANY ANY strategy to win in Afghanistan ??

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OofU, 'Cut and run,' is what

OofU, 'Cut and run,' is what a Teaparty political candidate does when someone asks them a question they can't answer with a sound bite.

Do you know were they run to? Faux News to get their ego's stroked by the Rupert Murdoch goon squad!

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You know Gort you need some new material

that old faux news bit is getting old fast. It's a shame you don't have any credible news sources that anyone wants to watch so you have to come up with some lame "name".

Maybe Keith will give you a thrill and you can join the few thousand that watch Ed.

The rest of America will keep getting the news without the spin.

It must really suck to be wrong all the time.

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OofU, you seam a little

OofU, you seam a little sensitive about “that old faux news” jab? I thought about saying something to the effect that Fox News is a 24/7 political infomercial for the Republican Party but the term “Faux News” is much more accurate and precise.

Besides, if it bothers you, then I like it.

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Oh it doesn't bother me. I just find it funny that

you guys can't come up with anything better.

Since Fox News has more audience share then all others and more than all other cable news shows COMBINED I am not sure what your little comment is supposed to do. I guess if my idols of Oberman and Schultz can't garner more than a few thousand viewers then I guess as a progressive I might be a little defensive as well. Not good for the ego being on the wrong side of everything it is a little demeaning. So go ahead "Faux" away.

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OofU, well good thing for

OofU, well good thing for both of us we don’t elect our public officials using the television rating.

You did make me laugh a little tonight when I read your replies. My original post was about the “Cut and Run” phenomenon of your Teaparty candidates.

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'Cut and run,' is what a Teaparty political candidate does when someone asks them a question that isn't one of their sound bites. Do you know were they run to? Faux News to get their ego's stroked!

When I read your replies it suddenly occurred to me that you did the exact same thing! Ha, ha, see you in the funny papers OofU.

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No you won't

see me in the funny papers but we will see the progressives in the unemployment line.

Maybe I might volunteer for service in the soup line and you can come by. I will gladly fill your bowl.

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OufU – this forum is the

OufU – this forum is the funny papers and I’m well aware of the cruel broth you want to dish out.

BTW, you ‘cut and run’ again.

8 - )

BTW2, are you serious about volunteering to work a soup line? Or are you just running your mouth again?

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Mr. Gort

I have to ask What is the cut and run thing?

I spend a large portion of my time when I am not running my business at the Area Food Bank.
I will be more then happy to offer you assistance after November.

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OofU, the 'cut and run' thing

OofU, the 'cut and run' thing was earlier in this post. Scroll up if your still interested.

I'll be okay in Novenber, I thought you might want to volunteer to serve food to the needy. If you donate at the food bank, you already do your part.

So you run your own business. Do you provide health insurance to all your employees?

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OofU, shall I mark you down

OofU, shall I mark you down as a "No," you don't provide health insurance to your employees?

Is that the money you use to buy your "Gold" insurance?

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It's a nonya

as in None of your business. Why do you ask. looking for a job already?

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OofU, I don’t know, sounds to

OofU, I don’t know, sounds to me like I peeled back a scab, if you know what I mean.

Anyway, thanks for the job offer but my Spanish is rusty and I probably wouldn’t fit in on your crew. Ask me again after they pass “Card Check.”

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No Union and I would shut my business down if it were tried

and oh btw- I pay 100% for full time since you have to know.

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Observer: Jefferson

Your little Jefferson saying: I don't think Jefferson paid his slaves anything!
The slaves did work but had nothing to take away to give to those who didn't work----like Jefferson!

Jeff lived off his wife's inheritance.

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Joe supports Health Care AND Gay Rights

Happy to see you join hands with the Gay and Lesbian crowd in New York! You're growing daily! You don't have to tell Joe, just don't ask.

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Obama: biggest tax DECREASES in history?

Uh, are you on powerful drugs? That's totally false and I cannot believe a rational person can believe a ludicrous claim like this. The largest tax cut in US history was in 1981. That was followed by big tax increases in 1982 and again in 1984.

I had to dig to find out where tax decrease BS ever got started and it turns out goofy lib Durbin said it on a talk show and was immediately and rightfully called to the carpet on it:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/mar/25/richard-d...

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