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Obama to Call for $50 Billion Spending on Public WorksBy SHERYL GAY STOLBERG
Published: September 6, 2010
WASHINGTON – President Obama on Monday is to call for as much as $50 billion in government spending to start up a long-term public works plan emphasizing transportation projects – roads, rail and airport runways – over the next six years

This just shows you how desperate washington is. We are broke, we dont have 50 billion to spend. Now all the illegals will come back to work these jobs. What a sad country this has become. Time for Change, lots of changes in November elections.

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The president must think that we are stupid

He states that his new $50billion union buy-off spending boondoggle will be "fully funded" and not add to the deficit. Sure it will be fully funded- With higher fees that energy companies will impose on consumers once their tax credits are taken away to pay for this scheme.

If you don't drive, fly, cook, heat/cool your home, use electricity then you have nothing to worry about.

Obama must think that we were all educated by government school teachers.

We won't be fooled again by your shennanigans, Barry!

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Learn from history

This back and forth regarding GOP, Teas, and Obama is missing the point. In order to make money - one has to spend money. Unfortunately, we thought the banks/financial institutions and their arrogant, greedy leaders would get their act together and assist the economy. WRONG - as they flew to DC in their private jets! (Unbelievable) Many complain about the programs of FDR - but those GOVERNMENT programs put people back to work - not 'broke' private enterprise!! We have intelligent economists - if left alone by the politicians - who could look at history, analyze the current conditions, and lead us away from the mistakes made after the recovery from the FDR period that led to inflation, etc. Come on economists - get together - and get us out of this mess! Politicians are not doing the job for the American people!! (or the global economy)

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Spend Money to Make Money, DM?

Who should be spending money and who should be directing where they spend it. Should government continue to spend our children’s and grandchildren’s money on Union payback, vote-buying schemes like his latest stimulus boondoggle? (I know Barry likes to refer to it as “investment” since his 2009 stimulus was a complete and utter failure.)

Or should the working people that earn money and companies that actually employ people spend the money instead of government?

This new plan of Obama’s is nothing more than a continuation of failed policy. You bash the banks because they won’t lend money? What do you expect when you have a president that has referred to the private sector as the “enemy”? You demonize the banks when you should be asking this ‘president’ why he is making it so hard for businesses to expand.
You think businesses will start hiring more once the Bush tax cuts expire on those making more than $250K?

Obama Offers Stimulus Reruns

But the stimulus bill from last year included an almost identical $48 billion in extra transportation spending, along with those same promises -- rebuild the nation's infrastructure for tomorrow, and create jobs today. So far, it hasn't exactly worked out that way.

One problem was that the transportation money got spent at a painfully slow rate. Six months after getting passed, only about 7 percent had been paid out, held up by red tape and bureaucratic inertia, according to ProPublica.

This June, the White House touted the fact that a huge chunk of the transportation stimulus funds would get paid out over the next three months, dubbing it "Recovery Summer" because of all the economic benefits it would bring.

But those same months saw the employment picture worsen, the economy weaken, and the White House quietly drop the term.

Face it. This administration has screwed up big time and they will pay for their complete disregard of common sense in Nov 2010 and 2012. It can’t come soon enough.
America has a very short time to correct this wrong.

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Those who continue to blame Bush and Obama for this mess and have nothing to offer based on fact and analysis to change the course of our economy - are becoming more and more transparent. To blame government and financial institutions, IMO is a cop out. Who is running the banks and the financial institutions? The People? Who is running the 'government' - The People? Wake up - there are a few statesmen/women in our Congress who want to work for the American people - and are independent from the 'big' donors. Why are the 'party Republicans’ against giving tax breaks to those making $250,000 or less? What is wrong with going back to the economy strategy of the Clinton era? (That produced jobs and a surplus) The proposed jobs bill was written by Democrats and Republicans - a tax cut for small businesses is needed now - so that small businesses can hire! Where is the common sense is holding up this bill? We need representatives that work for US - NOT THE PARTY!! (DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN) WAKE UP JOE You can repeat the 'right' line over and over again. The truth can't be hid any longer. We couldn’t afford the 1.3 trillion deficit that we had when Obama took over in January. If the only solution to our problem is to get Obama and Democrats out of office - THEN WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO OFFER TO CHANGE THE RECORD OF THE EIGHT YEARS WHEN WE HAD A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT? What is best for America? Our values are American values. Republican and Democrat leaders have worked together to help solve our crisis in the past - why not now? Democrats, Republicans, and Independents need to get together and help the American people!! Those who are ignoring our VALUES are using our FEARS to separate the American people and keep a political party in power. TRANSPARENT AND WRONG!!

SPEND MONEY TO MAKE MONEY? The simple fact of successful entrepreneurs. Buy low - sell high. Invest in what the consumer will buy. You can't make money as a small or big businessman without 'spending'.

By the way - there probably will be a compromise - and those earning over $250,000 will also get their tax break. After all, there are probably more Republicans in that bracket than Democrats or Independents. . .right?

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There is one small problem with your analysis

The Government can not and does not "make"/Earn money. So to spend taxed already earned money is ergo not making money. Your analogy is therefore flawed at best.

The Government can only spend money. Period. They can spend it for good results or not.

Like these little beauties.

$233,000 to the University of California at San Diego to study why Africans vote. Jobs created: 12, but seven of those are Africans in Africa.

-- In Nevada, $2 million in stimulus money built a new fire station, but because of budget cuts, the county can't afford to hire firefighters to work there.

-- Penn State University got $1.5 million to study plant fossils in Argentina. Of 5 jobs created, 2 belong to Argentines.

-- Researchers the State University of New York at Buffalo got $389,000 to pay 100 Buffalonians $45 each to record how much malt liquor they drink -- and how much pot smoke each day. Consumption is then reported via an automated phone hotline. Cost per job: almost $200,000.

-- The Obama administration is spending $5 billion to weatherize homes. But one Texas county spent $4 million to weatherize just 47 homes. That's $78,000 per house. Each retrofit is supposed to save homeowners $500 a year in energy costs. That means taxpayers will recoup their investment in 156 years, long after the home is probably torn down.

-- Two Arizona universities got almost $1 million dollars so 3 grad students can study how ants work. That's more than $300,000 per job.

-- Companies that raise tropical fish, shellfish, catfish, alligators and even turtles qualify for $50 million in tax money to buy fish food.

-- North Carolina public schools received $4.4 million to hire math and literacy coaches, not for students, but teachers. That's 64 people paid $70,000 each to teach teachers how to teach reading and math.

"We have to know that people at the Office of Management and Budget and the various agencies that are shoveling this money out the door, that they're on top of it," Grassley told Fox News. "And we need transparency and information on all of this."

Senate sources say privately many inspectors general are understaffed and overwhelmed, and mechanisms to stop fraud and disqualify tax cheats, criminals and others aren't always working.

Take the Napa Valley Wine Train. The county received $54 million to build a railroad bridge, relocate a half-mile of track and build a flood wall to protect a wine train passenger station. The no-bid contract went to a minority-owned business operated by an Eskimo tribe outside Anchorage.

The company then hired a real construction company for a fraction of what they were paid by the government to actually do the work. The tribe's CEO has no construction experience. His last business, a Web site for sailors, went bankrupt after spending $13 million in investor money.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/02/04/millions-doled-questionable-j...

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I do not base my analysis only on Fox News. Try it - it is sometimes stimulating to look at different views. Small business is not 'government'; but the government does have to utilize economic strategies that will keep those who are contributing to the finances of the economy of the country SOLVENT. Government is in business - good and bad. Now come on - you are an expert in improving the educational offerings for our children? Teachers teaching teachers is paramount to the improvement of the education of this country. Should they not be paid for their expertise? I don't believe the improvement in the teaching of math is poor use of our finances. You could have provided many more examples of poor business practices by our governments - local, state, and federal. Any one in business knows the fact that if you are going to succeed in business - money will have to be spent. Spending it wisely is the key to success. We have allowed 'others' to control this 'spending' - because we have been convinced that the 'government' is someone else! WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT! We need representatives who are working for US - NOT A POLITICAL PARTY. I'm entitled to express my opinion - as you are entitled to express yours. We obviously disagree. That’s America.

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yes davidsmom correct

but you applied that logic to the Government and that logic is flawed. Here you changed the meaning to that of Business and of course that has always been the case.

I can debate the logic of our Government spending/wasting our money forever. Suffice it to say as long as it benefits one or the other they will surely say it was worth it.

And lastly NO we are not the Government we are "The People" who elect our Representatives for Government. When that Government stops listening to "US" then that Government no longer functions "For the People".

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Hows this?

Spend money wisely to remain solvent.

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On this we agree

but this does raise a conundrum.

Government and wise do not go together.

But maybe a little wisdom will prevail. God knows we need it.

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Davids mom wrote:

Unfortunately, we thought the banks/financial institutions and their arrogant, greedy leaders would get their act together and assist the economy. WRONG - as they flew to DC in their private jets! (Unbelievable)

Then she writes:

Davids mom wrote:

To blame government and financial institutions, IMO is a cop out.

Anything you say, Sybill.

Davids mom]Many complain about the programs of FDR - but those GOVERNMENT programs put people back to work - not 'broke' private enterprise!!quote]

Wrong again - WWII put people back to work. FDR's useless programs prolonged the depression.

[quote=Davids mom]Why are the 'party Republicans’ against giving tax breaks to those making $250,000 or less?quote]

They aren't - they want to extend all of the Bush tax cuts.

[quote=Davids mom

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If the only solution to our problem is to get Obama and Democrats out of office - THEN WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO OFFER TO CHANGE THE RECORD OF THE EIGHT YEARS WHEN WE HAD A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT?

Obama isn't interested in anyone else's ideas. He made that clear from day one with his "I won" comment. Narcissistic dictators are like that.
"We are the one's we've been waiting for?" Only a complete idiot would make a comment like that. Oh yeah, an idiot did make that comment.

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Teachers teaching teachers is paramount to the improvement of the education of this country.

Isn't that the blind leading the blind?

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I said:
If the only solution to our problem is to get Obama and Democrats out of office - THEN WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO OFFER TO CHANGE THE RECORD OF THE EIGHT YEARS WHEN WE HAD A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT?

. . and still no answer from Kawfi, Beck, Limbaugh, or RNC/GOP. (Just 'cute' one-liners - sad.

To continue to denigrate teachers is what is wrong with some in this country. Other countries that are producing students who are outperforming American students honor those who teach and treat teachers and their profession with respect. If you are participating in this forum, thank a teacher.

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The real problem with teachers is

the NEA and AFT Unions. As does any union each works toward the lowest common denominator. Since the "worst" teachers are kept on without being forced to perform others "dumb" down their skills.

Why perform at higher levels if compensation is commiserate with the lowest common denominator?

btw-asking for Beck, Limbaugh or others to answer you is a little odd don't you think?

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asking for Beck, Limbaugh or others to answer you is a little odd don't you think?

Hmmm - they seem to be the spokespersons for the Conservatives - and no one has answered the question, including those who post here. Do you have an answer - how Palin, Romney or ???? will get us out of this economic mess?

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Since the "worst" teachers are kept on without being forced to perform others "dumb" down their skills.

Painting with a broad brush again. Unions work to insure safe working conditions and get high salaries for their members. Professional organizations work to maintain high standards. Criticize the organizational leaders - but stop painting the hard-working classroom teacher with such a broad brush - unless, of course, that is your personal experience. If so, what are you doing to change your personal situation?

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Teacher gets Schooled

Must see video of Gov. Christie straightening out a government union school "teacher". It this broad is any indication of the type that is teaching children in the government run education system, no wonder some kids are dumb as rocks.

Chris Christie Schools Another Union Defending Teacher

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Was very clear in not chastising teachers - but union leaders. There is a difference. I don't know if this teacher was using 'union talking points' or not - but the points she articulated could have been about any or all school teachers in our country. He listens and speaks well - you on the other hand - - - oh well.

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Christie

was clearly talking down to this 'teacher', as he should have based on the disrespectful way she was acting toward him. She was acting more like the 3rd graders under her instruction than a teacher.

She clearly had no clue where education dollars came from or what Christie had done to limit the number of cuts. Typical union, incompetent, government employee that thinks they deserve everything handed to them on a silver platter.

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Chris Christie for President

Chris Christie would make an excellent president. Notice that he was able to recall the FACTS that the 'teacher' didn't have and was able to turn her into a pile of incoherent goo without the use of a teleprompter.

The government run school system is the main reason that our kids are graduating from school without being able to read, write, and do arithmetic. Just look at the recent cheating that went on - BY TEACHERS.
Do you really think that these teachers had the interest of the children in mind when they changed the answers on the test?

What we need are school vouchers so that parents can send their children to the school of their choice. I'll put a student educated in a private school up against a government educated student any day of the week.

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Joe Kawfi - Christie

You may get you chance to vote for him for President, his name has been mentioned by several important Republicans. However, Christie has said he has no interest and wants to run N.J.

Fact is that we will have a number of "new" Repbulicans come out of the woodwork and the Dems become less focused on their socialist philosophy and more on saving their skins.

The Democrates know exactly what will happen to them this Fall, the question is what will happen to them in 2012?

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Comprehension and common sense

????? Kawfi?

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Wal-Mart vs. The Morons

1. Americans spend $36,000,000 at Wal-Mart Every hour of every day.

2. This works out to $20,928 profit every minute!

3. Wal-Mart will sell more from January 1 to St. Patrick's Day (March 17th) than Target sells all year.

4. Wal-Mart is bigger than Home Depot + Kroger + Target +Sears + Costco + K-Mart combined.

5. Wal-Mart employs 1.6 million people, is the world's largest private employer, and most speak English.

6 Wal-Mart is the largest company in the history of the world.

7. Wal-Mart now sells more food than Kroger and Safeway combined, and keep in mind they did this in only fifteen years.

8. During this same period, 31 big supermarket chains sought bankruptcy.

9. Wal-Mart now sells more food than any other store in the world.

10. Wal-Mart has approx 3,900 stores in the USA of which 1,906 are Super Centers; this is 1,000 more than it had five years ago.

11. This year 7.2 billion different purchasing experiences will occur at Wal-Mart stores. (Earth's population is approximately 6.5 Billion.)

12. 90% of all Americans live within fifteen miles of a Wal-Mart.

You may think that I am complaining, but I am really laying the ground work for suggesting that MAYBE we should hire the guys who run Wal-Mart to fix the economy.

This should be read and understood by all Americans Democrats, Republicans, EVERYONE!!

To President Obama and ALL 535 voting members of the Legislature,

It is now official you are all corrupt morons:

A.. The U.S. Postal Service was established in 1775. You have had 234 years to get it right and it is broke.

b.. Social Security was established in 1935. You have had 74 years to get it right and it is broke.
c.. Fannie Mae was established in 1938. You have had 71 years to get it right and it is broke.

d.. War on Poverty started in 1964. You have had 45 years to get it right; $1 trillion of our money is confiscated each year and transferred to "the poor" and they only want more.

e.. Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965. You have had 44 years to get it right and they are broke.

f.. Freddie Mac was established in 1970. You have had 39 years to get it right and it is broke.

g.. The Department of Energy was created in 1977 to lessen our dependence on foreign oil. It has ballooned to 16,000 employees with a budget of $24 billion a year and we import more oil than ever before. You had 32 years to get it right and it is an abysmal failure.

You have FAILED in every "government service" you have shoved down our throats while overspending our tax dollars.

AND YOU WANT AMERICANS TO BELIEVE YOU CAN BE TRUSTED WITH A GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM ??

MAYBE WE OUGHT TO KICK YOUR EGG-HEAD BUDDY BUMS OUT OF OFFICE AND HIRE WAL MART TO RUN THE GOVERNMENT ???

WAL MART SEEMS TO KNOW HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS.......WHY DON'T YOU GUYS JUST ADMIT IT'S WAY BEYOND YOUR PAY GRADE, AND QUIT?

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We're the government - and we hired the 'representatives' that are running the government now. Who are the morons? We are if we hand the power back to the legislators who haven't got it right yet. A moron is one who keeps doing the same thing expecting a different result. Wal-Mart uses a very socialist concept - and the American people support it during bad times because Wal-Mart has monopolized the market of needed goods and sells these goods cheaper than anyone else. The 'poor' don't want more - there are more 'poor' due to a sinking economy. People are out of work - (no money to put 'back' into the economy) Unpoliticize the economy and let the economists get us out of this mess. Putting Wal-Mart in charge - and expecting them to change the situation so that the American people will not buy 'cheap' - is ludicrous. Wal-Mart is big business. . . why would they change what is working for them? The American people need to change/sacrifice/ get off of deficit spending in their personal budgets. I remember when we did not have 'plastic' - but actually saved for what we needed - or did without. When we correct a bad situation - someone creatively figures out how to get us back in the 'hole' again so that a few can prosper - it's the American way.

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Well put, DM

"We're the government - and we hired the 'representatives' that are running the government now. Who are the morons? We are if we hand the power back to the legislators who haven't got it right yet. A moron is one who keeps doing the same thing expecting a different result. "

This is so true. Don't really agree with some of your other points :) , but you nailed this one.

Once this recession subsides, I fully expect it will be back to "business as usual" with people continually electing self-serving bums who could care less about anything in the world besides their latest poll numbers and how much campaign funds they have raised this week.

Vietnam followed right after by Watergate made a lot of the American public very cynical and the "who cares?" attitude took hold. Now, it's "how the hell did everything get so bad?" Well, start looking at your apathy and at those around you. It wasn't the faceless government or others....as Pogo said: "We have met the enemy and it is us." You have very low expectations for the people you elect(or don't bother voting) and then wonder why they are clueless morons who only care about themselves?

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DM - Moronic

“A moron is one who keeps doing the same thing expecting a different result.”

The left keeps saying that the government is the answer and the only thing we need is a little more time and money to get it right.

One of the items Mr. Kawfi left off his list was government run schools.

The total expenditures of approximately $562.3 billion in 2006–07, the last year the National Center for Education Statistics has up on their website.

At the combined elementary and secondary level in 2006, the United States spent $10,267 per student, which was 41 percent higher than the OECD average of $7,283. At the postsecondary level, U.S. expenditures per student were $25,109, more than twice as high as the OECD average of $12,336.

Among the OECD countries reporting data in 2006, the countries that spent the highest percentage of their GDP on total education expenditures were Iceland (8.0 percent), the United States (7.4 percent) Denmark (7.3 percent), and Korea (7.3 percent). Quick fact Korea has the highest math scores of any country reporting. The US is in the bottom third.

Now the results of this government spending on public schools:

Reading Scale Score 1984 = 289 and 2008 = 286 for graduating seniors
Math Scale Score 1983 = 302 and 2008 = 306 for graduating seniors

We have institutionalized public education in the US, essentially it's a massive government jobs program. Overall the scores in public schools haven't statistically improved in three decades.

And the definition of a moron is what again?

We are all morons for letting the government teach our kids.
In fact we are all morons for letting the government do much of anything.

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Kawfi-WalMart

The United States was run similarly to what WalMart has done during the Bush Administration!
Debt!!!!!

4000 stores built was all financed and now Walmart owes more than I can configure for them.

Just how much would their sales have to decrease suddenly or even over time, for them to be unable to pay for their debt?

Everything is fine until a depression or bad recession puts them on the skids!
If you doubt that, just review all those monster companies who are now broke from lack of sales and excess debt too quickly. Sears, K-Mart, GM ruled once! There are scores of others.

Not saying it will happen just that it is very possible.

Could you tell me what percentage of those 1.6 million employees of WalMart even make wages of the poverty level? Very few and they will never make more than the changing level!
Can the USA live with that scenario?

Stupid idea---Who would be Secretary of state, and cabinet for the USWalmart? The Waltons?
Some of their store managers could really do a bang up job as Sec. Of Defense!

Do they sell anything made in the USA of significance?

You don't see anything except corporate "profit."

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Again - we learn/compare history

. . of Reagan's and Obama's first two years. Interesting reading.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/21/AR201008...

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Why Reagan and Clinton Survived the Midterms and Obama Won't

Why Reagan and Clinton Survived the Midterms and Obama Won't

Reagan and Clinton were reelected due to the positive effects of their legislation. Reagan was acting on principle when he cut taxes while Clinton reluctantly moved to the right in order to allow for economic growth. Obama however, is committed to the liberal ideology and the redistributionary policies that come with it. The new Republican majority will pose problems for the ability of Obama to pass his agenda but this will not be a sufficient excuse. The 2012 election will be a further referendum on the economy and if Obama continues to pursue liberal policies, this will be his downfall.

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Obama to host NCAA star athletes

According to the White House, the event will continue a tradition started by former President George W. Bush, and include students from dozens of schools and sports.

Too bad this 'president' won't listen to economic advisors and continue the other Bush tradition of tax cuts for ALL Americans. Look for unemployment to go up as a result. If Obama truly cared about America, he would be concerned that his plans to increase taxes will result in higher unemployment.

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And the politics continue
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Nothing political about it

Extending the tax cuts is the right thing to do. Conservatives aren't spiteful like liberals - they are going to do whatever is in their power to help America.

Too bad the liberals are too short-sighted and power-hungry to see the negative effects that not extending the full range of tax cuts is going to have on the economy. After all, 48% of small business income reported to the IRS comes from households with incomes that will be affected by the Democrat's tax hike. Who really thinks that increasing taxes on these folks is going to help people find jobs. All we can do is hope that a wave of sanity hits Obama and that he decides to keep all of the tax cuts in place.

Then, let's throw him out of office in 2012.

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Only 3%----not 48% will have

Only 3%----not 48% will have their taxes increased slightly!

How many storefront businesses earn their owners over 250,000 per year?
Then they would only pay the expired tax on all over the $250,000--not on the total.

Read the durn thing and quit using it as a vote getter from people who don't want to read it!

I agree with 2012! One term is enough even for Isakson, Chambliss, and our two clowns.
Obama probably won't run anyway. Eight years would kill him. It is someone else's turn: Clinton, One of the Generals, Billy the Kid Bonner or I mean Boehner.

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You obviously were educated in a government school and, based on some of your incoherent responses, David's Mom was your teacher.

The 3% line is a flat out lie by liberals, and they know that they can get away with it because people like yourself aren't smart enough to look it up for themselves. Do you really think that the government would only go after 3% of businesses?

The Small Business Tax Hike and the 97% Fallacy

The impact is far more severe than Mrs. Pelosi and Mr. Biden suggest. In fact, the sound bite about 3% of small businesses, which has been picked up by numerous pundits, is one of the more misleading statements in the long history of economic propaganda.

The numbers are clear. According to IRS data, fully 48% of the net income of sole proprietorships, partnerships, and S corporations reported on tax returns went to households with incomes above $200,000 in 2007. That's the number to look at, not the 3%. Would Mrs. Pelosi and Mr. Biden deny that the more successful firms owned by individuals in the top income-tax bracket are disproportionately responsible for investment and job creation?

You need to read something more than the DNC talking points and Media Matters once in a while to get to the truth. Do you really think Joe "the train wreck" Biden is going to tell you the truth?

The administration is right to view the deficit as a serious issue, but this sudden commitment to fiscal responsibility is bizarrely inconsistent. The administration professes deep concern about the $700 billion revenue loss from extending the tax cuts at the top, but apparently views the revenue loss of nearly $2 trillion from extending the tax cuts for the middle class as too inconsequential to mention. Nor has the administration's concern about the deficit driven it to reduce federal spending. For those who are determined to tax the rich at all costs, and are therefore willing to accept the claims of the Obama administration without scrutiny, the tax hikes may well make sense. But the evidence is clear that lifting the top rates will hamper the business investment upon which our nation's prosperity depends. That affects all Americans, not just 3%.

Let's hope that Obama is politically neutered when the liberals lose in November. It's the only thing that will save our great constitutional Republic from bankruptcy and ruin.

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There are 315,000,000 people in the USA

157,000,000 of those are eligible to work.

3% of 157,000,000 = rounded, 5,000,000 who do make over the $250,000 deductible!

97% do not make over $250,000 per year! (These are the people who will keep the tax break of a small percentage.
Stock corporations hardly pay anything due to loop holes.
Private corporations are included in the 3%.

You will never want to understand it. It is a democrat idea!

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Chris,

It's obvious that you want to believe and HOPE with all of your heart that only 3% of businesses will see an increase in their taxes. (Even though the FACTS show that 48% of businesses will see an increase in taxes) You can HOPE all you want, however it will not CHANGE the facts.

Obama doesn't understand that simple fact either, so you are in good company.

If that helps you sleep at night, very well then. Nighty-night.

You are right in one regard - I will never understand the democrat ideas. They make no sense. Whoever believes that we have to spend more money to be prosperous as a country is a fool.

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U.S. Senate Republicans firm on tax cuts for rich

The Citizen

WASHINGTON, Sept 13 (Reuters) - Republicans in the U.S.
Senate poured cold water on Monday on hopes for a compromise
with President Barack Obama that would have allowed Bush-era
tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans to expire.

Most libs think this is crazy. As the great Herman Cain would say -
"You ain't see crazy yet!"

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