Scary Psycho Attack Deer

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A week or so ago I was out on the paths with the kids when I came upon a teenage boy out walking his dog. As I approached them I noticed that they were accompanied by a fully grown female deer. I thought briefly that perhaps the boy just so happened to have a pet deer, or maybe was a descendant of Snow White, as I parked my cart and watched the curious spectacle. I asked the boy about it and he claimed the deer had been following him for a long time down the path. Another family came by and marveled at the oddity, then continued on their merry way. I was slightly nervous about a wild animal following a boy and his puppy in such an unusual way so I stayed. Several minutes passed and finally the puppy, who had been relatively indifferent up until now, took an innocent step toward the deer. At which point the deer then charged at the puppy, injuring it. I called for the kid to hop on the back of the golf cart and we rode off into the sunset. Or, rather, up to the soccer fields where I dropped him off.
I had never before seen a deer behave in such a manner and was perplexed by it, but had shrugged the incident off until this evening, while out walking my own dog. I heard a rustling across the street and looked over and was startled by a deer. At first I was thrilled, as I used to always be when seeing such a beautiful and graceful creature. Then I remembered the scary psycho attack deer from the other day and decided to try to carefully ignore it. I did. It didn't ignore me back, but followed us from across the street. Finally it began to cross the road toward us and I began to run, knowing I looked like a lunatic, knowing that if my neighbors spotted me they would either have a great laugh at my expense or perhaps call the police. Once I turned the corner and made it halfway up my own street, I chanced a look back and didn't see the deer, so I made the mistake of believing the coast was clear and stopped to catch my breath - which is the mistake that all who are being pursued will make and at that precise moment Wipe Out begins to play in the background and the scary psycho attack deer comes sliding into view and charges up the street at you. I hollered out an expletive and made the mad dash home. I don't know when the deer decided to fall out of the chase and gallop off to likely pursue another poor soul out walking their dog, I hadn't bothered to look around and check on its progress.
Now I am wondering about my two encounters, which so happened to be in the same area - the stretch of Bridlepath right before you get to Huddleston Pond - and thinking it unlikely that nobody else has had a run-in with this scary psycho attack deer. Has anyone else experienced anything similar? Was it just protecting its young, off hidden in the bushes somewhere? Could it be that this particular deer has rabies, even though such a thing is apparently quite rare in deer? Are the deer staging an uprising, like something out of the Far Side? And who the heck do I call about this?

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Oh Deer

Call Animal Control - number should be in the front of the Rotary phone directory.

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Brown is usually right

Those of you that made fun of former (thank God) mayor brown's proposal to control the kudzu on the cart paths by hiring a herd of goats missed another golden opportunity to control the attack deer problem. It is a well-known fact that deer are scared of goats and if we had at least 1000 goats patrolling our cart paths, no more attacks by out of control deer. This is the type of problem solving and leadership skills we need on county commission. Vote for the goat!

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Holy Goats

I'm all about the idea of goats parading around alongside the golf cart paths in PTC. The golf carts alone are pretty comical. Throw in the goats and we have the makings of a reality TV series. I'm not sure what our plot would be, but I'm also not sure we'd need one with herds of kudzu eating goats creating golf cart traffic jams all over the city.

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Goats, in PTC?

Perhaps we should refer to PTC as Billy Goat Acres.

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Hey Cy, do yourself a favor and

get over to the Farmers Mkt in PTC on Saturday and scarf up some of that pork BBQ that a guy is smoking there (you can't miss the smell). I got some last Sat and actually had BBQ for breakfast! He uses a dry rub and smokes with hickory (some cherry) at 250 degrees for at least 20 hrs. It surely rivals any pulled pork I've ever had anywhere. And at $8.00 a lb, a bargain so far as BBQ goes.

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Farmer's Market

Where is this Farmer's Market?

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Farmers Mkt

located at Peachtree Crossing, in parking lot of old "Little Kroger" that closed. Saturdays & Wednesdays beginning at 8am. Don't know if the BBQ guy is there or not on Wednesdays.

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Mkt.-BBQ

Gym-Excuse the interruption, but I looked for it today. Saw no BBQ there. Anyone know if they will have a market this Sat. with the holiday? Forgot to ask them.

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Goil & BBQ

Don't know if it will be open this Sat or not---and if you note, I did say I didn't know if he was there on Wednesdays or not! But it's worth waiting for--promise! And all you have to do is follow the smell--can't miss it!

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BBQ Guy at the Farmer's Market

Hi everyone. YES THE FARMER'S GUY IS THERE ON WED AND SAT. EVERY WEEK!

If you have not tried his BBQ you are need to run down and get some. He is there every week 8 am - noon.

And...

Wait for it...

HE IS OPENING A RESTAURANT IN FAYETTE COUNTY!! Look for that in 2011. He is talking to his investors now.

The guy owns 2 BBQ places in Gwinnett and another store.

This is the best BBQ EVER!!

Prices $4 for a sandwich
$8 for a pound

Come early to get some. I got there at 9:30 and picked up 2 pounds. SO YUMMY!

Ok back to the regularly scheduled blog posts.

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Well, shame on me...

I got there a little after noon today, so I guess I just missed him. He's gonna miss some lunch business if he leaves at noon!

Thanks for the update.

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BBQ & Sauce

I have always thought the meat--if properly seasoned & cooked, should not need sauce. His doesn't, in my opinion and sauce on it would do it an injustice--'course, to each their own.

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Good Morning AHG

We did happen by the Market last Saturday, but did not try the BBQ. Rest assured however, that is to be remedied.

Happy Fourth!

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Farmer's Market (I doubt)

I visited it today. It won't last! Ten tents of $4.00 a pound tomatoes and $.75 each medium peaches!
Also some lye soap at $4.00 a cake, pounds of green hot peppers, and some plumber parking his truck at the bank ATM machine as advertising!

None of them looked like farmers! Just buy and sell people.

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Farmers Mkt

First visit? It's been operating 2 days a week for more than a month. No, they're not all "Farmers", but some true farmers (like Ric Minton & two Doves Farm),plus folkks who bake bread at home and others. Yes, Wed has less tfc than Sat, but all in all blv it's a great offering for the public. Hey, all your choice--you don't like it, don't go. I'll go for the BBQ which I hope to see back on site this Sat.

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GYM: Farmers

How many of those $4.00 a pound tomatoes did you buy? $.75 each, small peaches?

I saw no BBQ meat. Would be afraid of that at 100 degrees and no refrigeration and disease spreading by the crowds. Everything fingered.

Never saw a Rick Minton! Nor any bread.

Great offering, I don't see.

I have in the past bpught right much at the "don't touch or step on anything or eat anything," farm on 74. They only want $1.80 for tomatoes and peaches. They grow em. (tomatoes) Too bad they hate to sell em! The parking lot boogers up one's car inside also with the dirt.

I am FOR such a thing but this ain't it!

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Farmers Mkt

Didn't buy any $4.00 a lb tomatoes--bought tomatoes from Ric Minter (not Minton) who sells from the back of a white FordP/U--worked out to just over $2.00 a lb. I bought 8 peaches for $5.00--and they were excellent. Yesterday we bought peaches from Lane Farms at Publix for .89 a lb. Remember--last yr, you wanted peaches but weren't willing to drive to Gay and get them from Carroll Farms. The BBQ guy will have a smoker and only sells pulled pork--just follow the smell. He should be back next Sat. Agree about Adams Farm--some stuff they buy elsewhere and sell at extraordinary prices. Example: White Acre Peas at Adams: $4.00 lb. At Fletcher Produce Co, State Farmers Mkt, $21.00 a bushel, shelled: usually 10-12 lbs.

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Wrong Farm

Oopso--Adams Farm is on 54, not 74,so I don't know where you're talking about.

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GYM

54 is correct. My mistake.

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Hey Dollar$

Shut up with the habitual whining already.

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Hey AHG

Hello from Sydney, Australia. I'll be ready for it when I get back home.

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Cy & Sydney---North Sydney League's Club

Highly recommended. Sorta like a VFW--when I was there, coat & tie was mandatory.

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Sydney, etc.

What on earth do you sell?
Is Bangladesh next?

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Courthouse & what do you sell

He sells kickass oversight to worldwide airplane maintenance for a major airline.

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GYM

Never heard of that kind of oversight! Kicking Aussies there might be dangerous!

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Court & Maintenance

I thought maybe you could get from point a to point b,but I guess I was wrong. LISTEN UP; CY is in charge of worldwide airplane maintenance for a major airline
and that causes him to travel to many places worldwide to do supervision. Got it?

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Hey Gym

Try not to get too serious with old bonker$ He is an expert on everything.......well he did stay at a Hotel Inn Express once.

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Cy & Bonko

We should work to send his ass to Bangkok or Taipei for a rehab --if his heart stands the stress, think he'll calm down on the blog.

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No, no. You don't have it right about the goats to eat the kudzu!
They can't be turned loose onto the cart paths, they would eat their way to Fayetteville.
Here is the plan: A goat-herder is hired. He stays with and sleeps in his little cabin on wheels. He herds the goats to a specific area and ropes down the one or two main goats---the dominant males, and then allows the goats to eat out that patch of kudzu---lots of water is provided for them.
His trained dog will keep them herded while he sleeps, or awakes him and his whistle to take care of any strays.
The town gets no less than sixteen goats a year of any newborn once they are weened and the herder in addition to his contract gets sixteen.
By the time they clear the current kudzu the first areas will have regrown and it starts over.
The milk is donated to babies who require goat's milk to survive. All "butting" Billies are sent to north Fulton or Gwinnett County for roasting.

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Tried it....

Animal Control apparently will only control animals who have been previously controlled and have since gone feral or that are at least a kind of species that ought to be controllable by humans. They don't do wildlife. The Wildlife Control experts don't seem to handle deer.

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deer stories

What a funny story! I had a similar incident and my first thought was....rabies! It was the spring of 1997 and I was up early with my newborn and noticed a deer helping herself to all my rosebuds. I ran outside with no shoes, no glasses and my baby in one arm and attempted to shoo the deer away with my free arm. It sort of hissed/snorted and reared-up at me. Without my glasses it looked 3X bigger than what it was and without shoes I had to quickly hobble over the rocky ground back to safety. It was scary. The doe was pregnant and I learned later that day that it is common for them to behave in that manner. Later that week, while sharing the story with a friend who lived off Brooks Woolsey Rd, I found that my incident was not an isolated one. My friend was out at the street attempting to check her mail with a pregnant doe in the vicinity. That doe came toward her, hissing and snorting, and then reared at her. She got the mail later that day! I also learned that during rutting season a male will sometimes attack you.

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You gave me a good laugh!

Wildcat, I started reading this thread and followed the comments down, not paying attention to who was writing what. As I was reading your story, I was chuckling to myself at the picture you painted of a new mother defending her roses from the deer (with me, it's my daylilies they go for.) It wasn't until I read "Brooks" that I looked to see who was writing a story about deer in Brooks, and when I saw your name and realized who was writing, it really "cracked me up" as T-dawg would say!! Hope y'all are having a good summer. T is taking driving classes this week, and practicing his driving mostly around our area, so watch out, there's another teenager on the road!

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flwrgrl-double daylilies

Hey flwrgrl!! Who ever would have thought, back in the Cub Scout days when we made Christmas cards for shut-ins, carved bars of soap into animals, and went on night hikes, that they would be driving one day! Scary!! So, what do you know about double daylilies? I have some and from what I've read, this sometimes just occurs in nature. I'm going to try to cross-pollinate with a peach daylily that I really like. My doubles are an orange/red (Flaming June) color. I was really surprised when I first saw it because I thought it was two flowers that the wind had kind of blown together. It's really pretty.

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Similar experience...

About a week ago, my husband saw a deer chasing our 85 pound golden retriever across our yard. He went out to investigate and the deer was completely unafraid of him and even walked toward him a couple of times. We were speculating about rabies also. We are off Redwine Rd., so I'm assuming it was a different deer.

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Oh Deer Oh Deer

I did wonder about the rabies, but when I looked it up it is apparently very uncommon so I didn't call anyone after the first encounter with the boy and his dog. I wondered about it having babies it was protecting, but its behavior wasn't like what you would expect from a protective mother. It was more like some steroid-ridden jock on crack trying to pick fights with everyone who happened to walk past. I do know that somebody on my street feeds the deer and this may have something to do with it. In which case people ought to be reminded that IT IS NEVER A GOOD IDEA TO FEED WILDLIFE. It doesn't tame them. It just makes them unafraid of you. They remain just as unpredictable as they were before being fed by humans.

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This morning around 7:30 am I was in my kitchen making coffee.

I had the feeling something or someone was watching me. I looked up and through my glass sliding door I saw the most beautiful deer just standing there watching me. I stood there looking at it and it just stood there staring at me. Being the idiot I am, I started talking to the deer, saying how beautiful it was. I am sure this deer couldn't hear me through the glass but it just kept staring at me and coming closer. All of a sudden I realized just what damage that deer could do if it started to come through that glass door!. I looked away from it and went on with what I was doing. Twice when I looked up it was still there just staring at me. The next time I looked up it had moved over a little and was grazing on grass and plants. Then it went over the corner of my lot and stayed there a long time. About thirty minutes later I checked and the deer had moved to the other side of the yard and was still grazing. This deer was in my backyard about an hour. I live right off Windgate in a small subdivision where houses are close together and there is fairly heavy traffic nearby. I will be looking tomorrow to see if it returns. I have never seen a wild animal act like that before. Maybe they are having a hard time finding food??

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Deer Admiration

Yep, it could have been hungry and I know there is a house on Camp Creek Trail that feeds a whole family of deer in their front yard.

Last fall, there was a small family of deer that hung out in the greenspace abutting the cart path between Raintree Bend and Larkspur Turn. There were times when there were multiple carts stopped to watch them, with noisy kids and all, and the deer didn't make any move to get away from anyone. Just stood there eating and watched us back.

Or, maybe the deer you saw could have seen itself reflected in the glass of your door and thought it was another deer. Possible.

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PTGOIL, you might be right. I thought it might be seeing it's

own reflection also. But, it looked right at me and it's head would adjust to where I stood. I thought if it did see it's reflection I did not want it charging through my glass doors! I remember that deer family, I had to stop for them at Windgate and the Parkway. It was around noon and they just crossed over from the church front yard and meandered slowly arcross Windgate while I waited. Nothing seemed to faze them. Sad to say, they may be getting too used to people and that can be their doom. They are beautiful to watch but cannot be too safe for them or us. I guess we are paving all of the land they used to roam on before we invaded. Reminds me of when I went to Alaska and there was this moose that just grazed on the trees along the road right next to the place we were staying. Cars and busses would pass close enough to reach out and touch him and he did not even look up.

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Food and fear for the deer?

Food and maybe fear. I've had 2 of my dogs chewed on by coyotes in the past couple of months. One is a lab, but she's old. The other, short, stocky and not over 35 lbs.

The short use to go out in the morning and come right back. Now he barley ventures off the porch and cries to come back in. My old lab stays in the yard, but now won't sleep in a dog house or garage. She has gone n dug a hole under the house and that is the only place she will sleep out of doors. The only thing I can think is that they are afraid.

The coyotes might be a threat to the deer.

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Interesting...

Windgate is right next to the place I had those two encounters with that deer. At least I hope this is the same deer because I'd hate to think they've all started acting like this. My back yard is wooded and we get a lot of wildlife in our yard and I've noticed that the deer do not seem quite as afraid of my dog as they ought to be.

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stalker deer in PTC

Do you drink a lot?

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Growing daylilies and kids

Wildcat, my dad is the hybridizer in the family. He is always trying to get that elusive "perfect" flower by crossing one that has a great throat with one that has the best petals, longest bloomer, etc. To me, they are all beautiful--I gladly take his rejects:) I can't predict what your results will be, but what he does is pollinate the bloom you want to cross with the stamen of the other one, and mark the stem with a piece of surveyers tape, and then watch it until a seedpod is formed. Harvest the seed pod once it dries, then save the seeds and plant them next spring, and wait a couple years to see what develops. You might get lucky and harvest a new variety!

And, yes, it is truly amazing to think of them and all the other "Brooks Boys" who are now on the cusp of manhood! I still cring a little when I pass one on the road, however. Now I know what the older women were talking about when I was younger and they said how fast kids grow up. It seems the last 15 years have just flown by while I was busy. Sometimes I wish we could go back and do it all over again... But then, other times, I am counting the days till they are grown! How are all yours doing these days? And the grandbabies? D

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flwrgrl

I tried my hand at cross-pollination yesterday! It will be interesting to see what happens. I know what you mean about time flying....faster and faster each year, right? The granddaughters are good (almost 7 and 2.5), the older one is in my Girl Scout troop (a few more years for the younger). I have a grandson (6 months) and will get to see him again next month when they come visit. M and I flew to KC (MO) to see him over spring break. We are hoping that they will decide to move closer to home at some point! They've been out there for 8 years; it's time to come back!!

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Oh my dog...

Incidentally, the dog I was walking during the deer attack desperately needs a good home. I rescued her last October or so from a kill shelter and have since then learned that my children and I suffer from pretty horrible allergies. That, coupled with the fact that she is far too large for my shoebox of a home, has made me realize that perhaps we weren't such a good match after all. She is a German shepherd-collie mix, approximately a year and a half old (I would guess) and has been spayed. She's extremely sweet and loving, good with kids, but needs a little more training than I have the time to give her. (She's still not very good on a leash and remains nervous around other people.) She would do very, very well in a home that has a fenced yard (which I do not have and don't have the means to build) and school-aged children. While I am very anxious to find her a home I have to be very picky about who takes her and would be very sorry to see her go, but I've decided it's what's best for her. If anyone is interested or knows anyone who might be interested, please let me know. Pictures are available upon request. She is a wonderful, wonderful animal and would make an ideal family pet.

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Just don't try to rope it

Roping a Deer

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I had this idea that I could rope a deer, put it in a stall, feed it
up on corn for a couple of weeks, then kill it and eat it. The first
step in this adventure was getting a deer. I figured that, since they
congregate at my cattle feeder and do not seem to have much fear of me
when we are there (a bold one will sometimes come right up and sniff
at the bags of feed while I am in the back of the truck not 4 feet
away), it should not be difficult to rope one, get up to it and toss a
bag over its head (to calm it down) then hog tie it and transport it
home.

I filled the cattle feeder then hid down at the end with my rope. The
cattle, having seen the roping thing before, stayed well back. They
were not having any of it. After about 20 minutes, my deer showed up--
3 of them. I picked out a likely looking one, stepped out from the end
of the feeder, and threw my rope. The deer just stood there and stared
at me. I wrapped the rope around my waist and twisted the end so I
would have a good hold.

The deer still just stood and stared at me, but you could tell it was
mildly concerned about the whole rope situation. I took a step towards
it, it took a step away. I put a little tension on the rope .., and
then received an education. The first thing that I learned is that,
while a deer may just stand there looking at you funny while you rope
it, they are spurred to action when you start pulling on that rope.

That deer EXPLODED. The second thing I learned is that pound for
pound, a deer is a LOT stronger than a cow or a colt. A cow or a colt
in that weight range I could fight down with a rope and with some
dignity. A deer -- no chance.

That thing ran and bucked and twisted and pulled. There was no
controlling it and certainly no getting close to it. As it jerked me
off my feet and started dragging me across the ground, it occurred to
me that having a deer on a rope was not nearly as good an idea as I
had originally imagined. The only upside is that they do not have as
much stamina as many other animals.

A brief 10 minutes later, it was tired and not nearly as quick to jerk
me off my feet and drag me when I managed to get up. It took me a few
minutes to realize this, since I was mostly blinded by the blood
flowing out of the big gash in my head. At that point, I had lost my
taste for corn-fed venison. I just wanted to get that devil creature
off the end of that rope.

I figured if I just let it go with the rope hanging around its neck,
it would likely die slow and painfully somewhere. At the time, there
was no love at all between me and that deer. At that moment, I hated
the thing, and I would venture a guess that the feeling was mutual.
Despite the gash in my head and the several large knots where I had
cleverly arrested the deer's momentum by bracing my head against
various large rocks as it dragged me across the ground, I could still
think clearly enough to recognize that there was a small chance that I
shared some tiny amount of responsibility for the situation we were
in. I didn't want the deer to have to suffer a slow death, so I
managed to get it lined back up in between my truck and the feeder - a
little trap I had set before hand...kind of like a squeeze chute. I
got it to back in there and I started moving up so I could get my rope
back.

Did you know that deer bite?

They do! I never in a million years would have thought that a deer
would bite somebody, so I was very surprised when ... I reached up
there to grab that rope and the deer grabbed hold of my wrist. Now,
when a deer bites you, it is not like being bit by a horse where they
just bite you and then let go. A deer bites you and shakes its head--
almost like a pit bull. They bite HARD and it hurts.

The proper thing to do when a deer bites you is probably to freeze and
draw back slowly. I tried screaming and shaking instead. My method was
ineffective.

It seems like the deer was biting and shaking for several minutes, but
it was likely only several seconds. I, being smarter than a deer
(though you may be questioning that claim by now), tricked it. While I
kept it busy tearing the tendons out of my right arm, I reached up
with my left hand and pulled that rope loose.

That was when I got my final lesson in deer behavior for the day.

Deer will strike at you with their front feet. They rear right up on
their back feet and strike right about head and shoulder level, and
their hooves are surprisingly sharp. I learned a long time ago that,
when an animal --like a horse --strikes at you with their hooves and
you can't get away easily, the best thing to do is try to make a loud
noise and make an aggressive move towards the animal. This will
usually cause them to back down a bit so you can escape.

This was not a horse. This was a deer, so obviously, such trickery
would not work. In the course of a millisecond, I devised a different
strategy. I screamed like a woman and tried to turn and run. The
reason I had always been told NOT to try to turn and run from a horse
that paws at you is that there is a good chance that it will hit you
in the back of the head. Deer may not be so different from horses
after all, besides being twice as strong and 3 times as evil, because
the second I turned to run, it hit me right in the back of the head
and knocked me down.

Now, when a deer paws at you and knocks you down, it does not
immediately leave. I suspect it does not recognize that the danger has
passed. What they do instead is paw your back and jump up and down on
you while you are laying there crying like a little girl and covering
your head.

I finally managed to crawl under the truck and the deer went away. So
now I know why when people go deer hunting they bring a rifle with a
scope to sort of even the odds.

An Educated Rancher

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was awesome.

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Crazy Deer Attack in PTC

Okay. It has taken me quite some time to post my reply to this blog because I had not used my citizen account in so long that it was no longer active and they just reinstated it but the man who posted this blog is not crazy and he is not drinking. I live on Bridlepath and this crazy doe has been hanging out in my back yard for over a month now. My first encounter with her was when my 75lb Lab was attacked right outside my back door on my concrete patio. I let my dog out to do her business and walked back inside and within seconds I heard her screeching like I have never heard before and when I opened the door she flew inside the door and the deer just stood there a few feet from my back door and dared me to move. She kicked my dog so hard that she had a bloddy indention all the way across her belly and she had scratches or bite marks on her face as well. I got my sons BB gun and shot her and she ran into the woods behind my home. At first I thought maybe she had a baby and felt threatened and that was the reason for the attack but a few hours later she was in my yard again and this time she charged me and I shot her with the BB gun again and she left. Over the next few days she was out in my backyard several times a day and I noticed her trying to jump INTO my neighbors fence with two large dogs barking at her. She was actually charging the fence and trying to get to the dogs. I called animal control and I was told that a deer is wildlife and there is nothing that can be done.(of course they think there is a baby deer causing the behavior but I can tell you I have seen her for over a month and I have NEVER seen a baby anywhere, and she is in my yard for hours sometimes) I have seen her at least three times a week since the first incident and after reading this I am even more concerned. She is aggressive , She HATES dogs and she seems to have a problem with people too. I have shot her more times than I can tell you with a BB gun and it does not keep her from coming back into my yard. I dont want to get into trouble for discharging a firearm in the PTC limits but I am pretty tired of having to survey my yard before I let my dogs out or even walk out to enjoy my backyard myself. I am at a loss for what can be done and I would love to see someone get involved to stop this animal before it hurts a small child. I have been told that rabies in white tailed deer is so rare that there have been less than three cases in the US in the last decade but her behavior is "classic text book" craziness and it is not normal and she is one of the largest does I have ever seen so she can do quite a bit of damage if she wants to.

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Crazy Deer!

I can tell you what is wrong with the deer. We are treating the deer just as we did the American Indians. We are taking over all of their land without providing them a proper home and they have decided to fight to the death rather than just be shot.
There is just so much they can take you know!
Since everything else is blamed on developers and banks, I'll just say that they are to blame!

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The worst thing that we did was to bring smallpox over here from Europe. Native Americans had no resistance and in some areas had a 90% case-fatality rate. They are entirely different than deer and we have been much more evil to the native american.
We have no been nearly as bad on the deer as we have had on their natural predators. Allowed to breed unchecked, deer populations have exploded in some areas. We have been far more unkind to the predators than we have to dear little bambi.
Why don't you just blame republicans, you dolt?

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Deer are entirely different than Indians! But they both die if mistreated!
I think Christopher Columbus and his friends killed more native Indians working them to death digging out gold than did disease!
Hey, hear about Afghanistan having trillions of dollars worth of precious metals discovered?
We won't ever leave there either. Now that we have a bastion in Iraq and soon in Afghanistan, along with Israels help, we won't worry about all that oil in that area for awhile.
Treasure has been a war starter for many eons. Even the Romans invaded everything going to get the bounty!
Do you know what the word selfish means?

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"I think Christopher Columbus and his friends killed more native Indians working them to death digging out gold than did disease!"

Review this sentence with any rational and indepth text of history. review them well and find out how many died of disease verses slave labor exhaustion. Or you can merely remove your head from your fourth point of contact and take my point on faith.

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Indians were slaughtered on most of the Caribbean Islands, including Hispaniola and Cuba due to the arrival of Columbus and the following arrivals over the next few years.
They were hung in groups, hands cut off in order to bleed to death (for not finding gold), rape, beatings to death, and just for fun in any way they could think of!
Some of the Spanish Priests left diaries of this since their warrior types of course would not.
From 1492 to about 1520 it has been estimated that millions were killed (the exact number of millions is unknown).
Their experiment did teach them that the Indians were more naive and cooperative in everything than the black slaves brought to work.
Some were taken back to Spain for auction as slaves but it didn't work as well as in the North American scheme.

Much of this brutality and incivility was a left-over from the 12-1400s when certain types of human life wasn't considered human. Kinda like we slaughter cattle, hogs and sheep now--the difference being that if there was no advantage to keeping them, then slaughter was easier than taking care of them!

Yes, the European sexual and other diseases did also kill millions which we talk about a great deal as if that was what killed most of them out.

You know, all most all of your blurbs do is allow me to tell others the facts instead of talking about one's head up their arse!

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Animal Control

There is something terribly wrong with that deer!
If someone were to call animal control about a rabid fox in the neighborhood, you can bet someone somewhere would do something about it. I don't see this as being any different, as the animal's aggressive behavior is clearly endangering citizens. I have seen the deer almost every time I take my dog out. It's usually in between the golf cart path and Bridlepath. I have seen no sign of babies, either, and don't think babies are the source of the aggression. She isn't acting defensive, she's acting offensive, and as though she's out to pick a fight with the first canine she sees. I can imagine how frustrating it is for you to have the thing stalking your dog every day. I'm wary enough of taking my dog for walks and have been telling all of the other dog-walkers around the Huddleston Pond area about the crazy, dog-hating, psycho attack deer. (Though I'm quite sure they think that I'm the crazy one.) I have just been discussing the matter with my spouse and we figure that the safest bet is to purchase "bear-strength" pepper spray for when we go out with the dog, just in case. In the meantime (at least until I find the right person to contact about the problem) I've researched ways to repel deer. Apparently they don't like the smell of eggs, so it's been suggested to make a "rotten egg spray" to saturate your yard with. This seems like an incredibly stupid idea as it will also repel yourself, your dog, your neighbors, and everyone within a hundred mile radius. Human hair is supposed to repel them, but somehow I doubt this will work for this particular deer, because it's not afraid of humans. Or dogs, which are also supposed "deer repellents". Ha. However, I did read that deer don't like the smell of soap or fabric softener, so placing those sorts of things around the perimeter of the yard won't hurt, at least. I plan to try it, as my yard is not yet fenced. And, if you've got the means, gardeners put chicken wire on the ground as well because the deer don't like to walk on it.
However, I'm not sure we ought to have to take these measures. Generally speaking, I'm completely against harming another living thing. I don't even kill spiders. And I am very sympathetic about the fact that the poor animals don't really have any place to be. But I also have two small children and an innocent dog and we all like to go on walks and I'd rather not have to arm myself before I leave the house. Something's got to be done about this deer. And if it involves hiring a hitman, then so be it.

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Called the DNR

and the guy said that he's almost positive that it has babies. He said to wait it out and that the deer's behavior should start to improve. I have seen no evidence of babies myself and I told him what you had said about it spending hours at a time in your yard, but he still insists that it's protecting its young. I'm not entirely convinced but I certainly don't want to hurt it, either, especially if it's a mother.
I asked him about dryer sheets, soap, etc. and he said that they do work. He said you can mix eggs with water and pour it around your yard, or buy something called "liquid fence". He said that's effective as well. In the meantime, just warn other dog owners about the deer and try to stay away from its home the best you can. Which is difficult for me when I walk the dog, but he said that pepper spray was a good idea.
It definitely does not have rabies, but I hope he's right about the fawns. We'll see.

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Your crazy deer

She's crazy because of the fawns you can't see. Keep your dog inside or go with your dog. If you see the doe then simply go back inside.

The fawns will grow up, the doe will move away, and everyone will be happy.

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crazy dear

I got better ideeuh. built your dog a spacial room on yer houze what wif a terlit. Than whin the undcene fawn halls grow out---tarn dog lose!
hit air to hard to go wif dog 365 days per yar.
cud git rid uf dog im guesin!

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OMG where is bonkers meds

and just whose turn was it to make sure his laptop was put away?

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Meds, Laptop?????

Hell, I just want to know who the heck let him out. Maybe it was Cal. ☺

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That is all well and good

until you're out away from your house trying to give your dog (and yourself) some exercise and you get chased up the street by a crazed animal that can easily outrun you and just as easily pummel you to death with her hooves.

And I really don't think that there are babies.

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Strange Deer Herd in north PTC...

We've had a herd of 5 bucks, antlers an all, roaming the north PTC neighborhoods. No does in the herd. I've never seen this before. Could deer raised and tamed together (by humans) exhibit this behavior?

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5 Bucks

Doubt if they'll still be running together when rutting season comes around. Don't wander outside in your die costume.

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Some Have Said

you need to have a lotta bucks to live in Kedron, but 5 bucks really isn't a lotta doe.

hahahaha

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Dog & Can

Don't worry about the five bucks, they are simply the 20% strange ones of the deer species.

Not long ago we had a family of five in our yard, Papa (9 point), Mama, and three younger. Normal family but unusual for them to stay together after the youth are weaned.

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crazy

of being a hunter of many years i have never heard of this many close encounters..i do belive this could happen though..not pointing fingers but ya'll in PTC will have a problem soon...deer around there have no predators except cars..you can say what you want about hunting but without it you will see a lot more of encounters like this..by no means should you kill every deer in town..but without proper population control of deer it could get worse..the worse thing that can happen to a wild animal is not be scared of humans..that goes for any animal..everyone should push for bow only hunting in areas with a safe amount of acreage or otherwise this will continue and only get worse