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But you obviously aren't interested in facts, only lies and spin, if they suit your beliefs. Here is the truth: http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/bogus-brazilian-oil-claims/
are checking carefully the claims of Kawfi and Lindsey. Excellent!! Power is in the vote of the informed voter!
Note my article did not say anything that Obama did by Executive order..
I did not claim Obama "ordered anything" that is the email issue..
However the loan did go through and this administration did not stop it.. now did they? That is the gist of my article.. Now argue that one "enlightened citizens"..
The US Import/Export bank has board members in this administration and with George Soros. Obama's ties to Soros have been documented..
There is a big difference 1 and DM between claiming a fact is incorrect and proving it..
The email that Obama signed an executive order is incorrect and factcheck is therefore correct.. The Soros connection however is not checked in this factcheck article and thus Obama's role is therefore NOT fully explored.
It is the height of laziness by you guys to just go to FC and stop there.. You understand that FC is not the sole arbiter of all things factual right?
Obama and Soros and Petrobras are however linked together and all benefit from the Gulf Disaster. And that oh enlightened ones is the gist of my post..
You're trying to weasel out of your false accusation. You posted a blog with the headline: "Obama signs $2 Billion dollar loan to Petrobras for Oil drilling in deep water", demonstrably untrue. And you start the blog with: "Obama Administration pays off George Soros and Move.org to the tune of 2 BILLION dollars". Also demonstrably untrue.
Then when you get called on it, you post "The US Import/Export bank has board members in this administration and with George Soros."
Even though the Factcheck article explicitly stated: "None of President Obama’s appointees had joined the Ex-Im board at the time of the vote, which was unanimous, and bipartisan." and The Ex-Im Bank states: "In fact, at the time the Bank’s Board consisted of three Republicans and two Democrats, all of whom were appointed by George W. Bush."
I'll agree that, as you say, "There is a big difference... between claiming a fact is incorrect and proving it".
That's what you and Joe rely on.
Is it untrue? http://www.examiner.com/x-4577-Milwaukee-Unemployment-Examiner~y2009m8d2...
Is Petrobras getting a $2billion dollar loan from a US taxpayer subsidized bank? See above
http://cagematch.dvorak.org/index.php/topic,8780.msg38452.html
Is this administration pushing it? Obama Underwrites Offshore Drilling
Too bad it's not in U.S. waters. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297020386320457434661012052416...
Is George Soros tied in with Petrobras? http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aFHPjfeUvtl8 (Soros Hedge Fund Bought Petrobras Stake Worth $811 Million)
Is The Center for American Progress a think tank for Obama? http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_for_American_Progress
Did Soros start that group? See above
Does John Podesta Obama's Chief of Staff have ties to CAP? See above also
Did Obama place a Moratorium on drilling against the advise of the experts?
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2010/06/judge-block...
Has Petrobras already placed a bid on the drilling rigs if the Moratorium is upheld? http://www.zacks.com/stock/news/35511/Will+Petrobras+Get+More+Rigs?++-+A...
Does Obama have ties to US EX/IM Bank?
http://dalje.com/en-economy/obama-eyes-hochberg-to-head-us-export-import... New Jersey hmmmm
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/obamaforamerica/gGM9dj Organizing For America..Expanding Job Opportunities for American Workers Through Exports: A breakout group focusing on how we can continue to take advantage of the rebound in global trade and how to change the tide from consumption driven to export driven growth. Moderator: Director of the National Economic Council, Lawrence Summers and President and Chairman of the Export-Import Bank of the United States, Fred Hochberg
Obama has no ties to Fred Hochberg does he?
You want to argue headlines I used to grab attention but will not argue the substance of the issue. Why? BECAUSE IT'S TRUE and YOU know it. Argue with the message Jeff not the messenger. You love to ignore the facts and argue semantics..
I agree the email about Obama signing an executive order is false.. Note I did not reference it.. But the STORY is TRUE the devil is always in the details.
If Obama really believed drilling that deep was wrong then why is he supporting Brazil and their drilling which goes far deeper then the Deep Horizon.. Why? Because it's payback to Soros and CAP. That's why..
So Jeff are you saying that Obama was NOT involved and knew nothing of the mechanizations of those around him.. In other words is he that clueless?
btw.. If as you say it is "demonstrably" untrue.. then why didn't you do so.. I saw denials but no facts.. I ask and answered those questions.. NOW break the argument Jeff. Don't pull a sniffle and just claim it's all false just because you disagree.. Demonstrate how wrong I am..
Even if I concede that all you wrote is true which it probably is, this deal went down before all of that. You didn't address the two facts that blow your argument laying it at Obama's feet:
1) "None of President Obama’s appointees had joined the Ex-Im board at the time of the vote, which was unanimous, and bipartisan."
2) The Ex-Im Bank states: "In fact, at the time the Bank’s Board consisted of three Republicans and two Democrats, all of whom were appointed by George W. Bush."
After reading the trash to which you are responding it is clear that Kawfi and lindsey and many others here will say anything they can twist around to denigrate the President or any democrat. All republicans and Saint Sarah are OK! The non-regulated banks, and oil companies, and this depression are Obama's! (watch for depression # 2 coming due to #1).
Well a fine intelligent response that was. What a prize of wit you are.
Break the argument if you can.. Go ahead be my guest..
Bonkers alert.
It is tied to current events.. Yes the ORIGINAL letter of commitment was under Bush but Obama just oked the deal..
Haven't you been listening.. Bush was a Progressive as well.. I have said that over and over..
The deal helps out Obama's mentor Soros.. So of course that is one bush program that obama is for...
Bush was yours. It's easy to just dump the problem children but it's like me claiming Acorn is really a Tea Party offshoot. It just won't fly. We all have our crosses to bear.
As for Soros being Obama's mentor, I'm not so sure. Seems to me that fellow travelers would be a more apt description.
On a completely different subject... I'm gradually coming around to a 35-40 loss in the House for the Ds in the fall. I haven't decided yet. I intend to go through the races and see now that the candidates have been chosen and I'll post my state by state predictions for discussion. Looks like y'all saved Reid with Angel but I haven't given it the necessary analysis yet. It's not '92. It feels different; hard to read. Most of the action has been in the Republican Party and the TP has been strong there. On the other hand, their grass roots get out the vote has been pitiful. It really has and there's no sugar coating it. I think they realize that too and might be changing strategy to compensate. I'm still pondering and it's still early. It's interesting times. I've never seen anything like it.
His negatives are too great to overcome..
With Pelosi and Reid now pushing a "No budget..Budget" he is toast.
Yes we can take the house and will at least take 9 or so in the Senate more than enough to hold Obama and crew to a standstill...
And you are so correct.. I have been a political junkie since I was 6 and I too have never seen anything close to the mess we have now.. We do live in interesting times indeed..
Milk toast maybe.
Last poll I saw they were tied, Reid up 17. Angle's run in with reporter asking about stuff she posted on her web site had to be disturbing. Complete amateur. She's new, first time in the big leagues, it'll take a while for her to get used to it. Still, she seems gaff prone and Reid is a pro at this stuff. He'll keep her off balance and off message
He's competitive now that there is someone to compare with him as
the alternative. He's the incumbent, in control of the state party, unlimited funding, state wide favors to be pulled in.
He's far from toast.
He's the incumbent, in control of the state party, unlimited funding, state wide favors to be pulled in.
And I'm still puzzled about Alvin Greene's election in the S.C. primary.
Follow the $. Where did the $10,000 come from? I don't 'know' - but something 'smells' here. I'm sure we'll find out somewhere down the line. These things can't be ‘covered up’ for long. Puzzlement continues.
NEVADA U.S. SENATE POLL: Reid hits new low in poll
Rating is worst in R-J's surveys for 2010 election
http://www.lvrj.com/news/reid-hits-new-low-in-poll-81060702.html
Reid's chances of win Complicated and unlikely
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/jun/20/how-experts-see-route-victor...
Local papers tell the story.. All politics are local..
Rory Reid Leaving Last Name Out Of Campaign
http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/24005584/detail.html
More evidence that Harry Reid's is toast.. His son drops his last name to distance himself from his father. Can't say I really blame him.. Can you?
Can you blame him? His father is nothing but an evil minion of Obama.
Harry actually looks evil, especially in the eyes.
I stand by my claim that Obama is not a man, but a small child.
President's do not make loans to anyone. He can ask congress to do so!
Saying someone is dead who isn't is beyond anyone paying any attention to such names! Those who support such tomfoolery are also guilty!
this post just proves it..
"The content is removed. Why? My co-office mate suggest me to went to this site. because of the blog about Obama. Maybe i will just read some article from here.
- ace (home equity loans)"
Obama is not a man. He's a small child that cannot think for himself.
He is merely a hand puppet for Soros and the far left.