The Westboro Baptist Church - Protesting at a Soldier's Funeral

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According to several news outlets, the farther of a fallen Marine was ordered by the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals to pay the court cost to Fred Phelps the leader of the Westboro Baptist Church. This court ruled in favor of the church and its right to protest at funeral services of our fallen heroes. These protests typically carry an anti-homosexual theme and simply are not fit for the funeral services of these heroes. Somebody please make this group go away!!!!

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This is going to the Supreme Court and rightfully so

Westboro Baptist Church should be ashamed of themselves.. but they think they are doing God's work.. Being a Christian myself.. I disagree.

I sent them a letter today stating as much..

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This is why Republicans should dump the religious right wing

Fanatics against gay rights and abortion are hurting the Republican Party. Neither abortion or homosexuality is morally correct according to the bible and most churches, but that's where those beliefs need to stay - in one's church and perhaps in one's own moral code. NEITHER ABORTION OR GAY RIGHTS - PRO OR CON - HAVE ANY PLACE IN GOVERNMENT!

The whackos on the right are just as much of a problem as the whackos on the left. If the Republicans dumped the anti-abortion, anti-gay factions they would have a "live and let live" attitude on those 2 social issues (except of course for the babies that are killed, but I digress) Oddly, "live and let live" is exactly how most Democrats and Independents feel about it as well. Then Republicans could debate Democrats on stuff that actually matters and maybe the country can get back on track.

And no, the moderates on the right who get offended by this stance will not leave the Republican Party in great enough numbers to matter. They are certainly not going to become Democrats. Worst case is they become Independent or just stay home on election day.

It is worth trying this idea. We would not have Obama as President if the Republicans adopted this stance last time. It would be President Romney and by now we would be enjoying the economic recovery and debating immigration (the illegal type) instead of health care.

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R.W. Morgan: Fringe

R.W. don't get your panties in a wad. Every group has a fringe as you stated and most are ignored. It is wise to do so in this case.

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Doright,

The problem with simply ignoring this group, as you suggest, is that, much like a child in kindergarten, the more you ignore them, the more frustrated they become.

Over and over this group has proved to be a fearless bunch of confused/brainwashed radicals who have no respect for other people(which, I should note for anyone who doesn't know, that this is NOT the view of most Christians!) and they are continuously on a warpath of emotional destruction.

The fact that any judge ruled as this one did is appalling, and hopefully this father will get to appeal the ruling.

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ahavah_lachaim: Soldier's family's fate

Yes I agree it is appalling and now see that it is even more so with the father having to pay for the expenses, though he did file late and that is mainly the reason.

Beef up security and ignore this group, its no big deal if they become frustrated, most see this group as a bunch of loons anyway. They have a right to protest BUT they don't have a right to be on the private property or to enact violence.

I thought it was great that many Americans have to the father's defense to pay the legal bills and fight this. This is how it should be.

Note to father: Make sure your attorney files ON TIME, courts have rules and if you want to win you have to play by them.

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Morgan

Your first paragraph is right on! Like mixing fertilizer and acetone!

However then you digress again!
You stir them up again with the "babies are killed" thing. Making that illegal and enforcing it is worse than prohibition of alcohol and cigarettes.

I'm also afraid your "back on track" stuff is another rat hole to your cause.
Forget Health Improvement; build fences; and worst of all: Romney! Reminds me of a Burma Shave Guy! Anyway his state has one payer insurance---another hypocrite.

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Westboro Swine

This is going to be a messy case.

Evidently the Westboro protestors were kept 1000 feet away from the funeral, out of direct sight and hearing distance of the funeral party. They didn't care, they were mugging for the TV cameras anyway.

The father of the deceased is alleging emotional distress based on watching news coverage on TV that he saw the day AFTER the funeral, he saw the Westboro morons calling his Marine son a "fag".

Westboro candidly admitted they used the word "fag" solely to draw attention to their cause.

I wish these Westboro swine would go away, but they are experts at gaming the press to attract attention. I think the Marine's dad was overreaching by suing to unilaterally say they have no right to protest, period.

In any event, protesting a funeral to advance your political cause is beneath contempt.

And there is a special place in hell for Westboro's attorney (who happens to be Fred Phelps' daughter) who gleefully appeared on CNN this morning to announce that the Marine's dad's fees would be used to finance the church's "protest ministry".

The Supreme Court will earn their pay deciding the merits of this case.

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How low can you go

This is hitting the bottom of the barrow. God bless our too many families who have made the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom.

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Westboro verdict is in...

Well, the US Supreme Court today ruled 8-1 that the Westboro Baptist Church has a First Amendment right to picket a soldier's funeral, primarily because they were (technically) protesting Government policy.

Let's hope Bill O'Reilly keeps his oft-stated promise to pick up the soldier's dad's court costs.

Justice Stephen Breyer issued a concurring opinion stating that he believed that the government could intervene against people intentionally inflicting distress on others over personal, non-political positions.

Justice Samuel Alito was the sole dissenting vote. Obviously he never heard of this "First Amendment" thingee. Of course, Alito was the author of the infamous opinion a few years back that any police officer could probe your teenage daughter's vagina with their fingers without a warrant if they were willing to testify under oath that they weren't doing it for the purpose of sexual gratification. (A position soundly rebuked on appeal, btw).

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bacon

There are a couple on that Supreme Court who would qualify for the German Courts who tried the German Citizens when the tried those supposedly for disliking Adolph Hitler! Most were strung up on meat hangers to die.

In this case about the funerals though, all they need is a license to assemble.
O'Reilly is going to pay for all court costs anyway, so that part is solved.

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rounabout

It's Adolf not Adolph.**************************

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cyclist

Correct. However I prefer the English spelling.

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cyclist

Correct. However I prefer the English spelling.

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Fallen Soldier's Father's Court Costs

If this ruling stands, Bill O'Reilly has publically stated that he will pay those court costs.

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O'Reilly!

Isn't that grand of him?

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O'Reilly

At least he will stand by his beliefs with his checkbook--it's called "walking the walk', just maybe a concept foreign to you.

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They better stay out of PTC

If the Westboro crew comes to PTC tomorrow (Lt. Collins' funeral) they are going to get quite a surprise I bet.

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