Has Mike King changed?

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There is an implied threat

in these comments. This is how racist trolls operate and shame on those here who respond and get drawn into this disgusting diatribe. Stop now.

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MLC - Threat?

I see no threat, I see politics for what it has become in this country. DM is just reflective of one of many progressive ploys, her's just happens to leverage race. That's all.

She has every right to voice her opinion but she has no right to vote in PTC. Until she moves here.

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I appreciate you recognizing my right to express my point of view. Believe me, I won't vote in PTC's election. I'm just surprised that more of Mr. King's supporters have not shared his qualifications.

Race a leverage? That's a sad commentary after 50 years of so-called 'moving away from' using 'race' as a leverage. I understand what you are saying - but it is sad, isn't it, that there appears to be a complete refusal by a few, to acknowledge that in Fayette County there are citizens of a race other than 'white' that have the content of character to be good neighbors. The statistics of the race of criminals incarcerated in 2013 has about as much relevance to FC as the statistics of the race of those who participated in lynchings and 'race riots' in the 1900's in southern cities. What do we have today in Fayette County? Is our human relations, 50 years after the 'I Have A Dream' speech something to be proud of? I think so.

And yes, I belong to groups (integrated) that are working on imporving the statistics tied to poverty, poor education, etc. throughout our country.

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Mike King

Mike has been one of the meanest bloggers on this website.

You can put lipstick on a pig but ....

What's that thing he ALWAYS used to say about the alligator and the hummingbird's behind???

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johenry & mike king (you old meanie!)

What johenry really means is that some people just can't handle straight talk.

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I guess johenry never read...

,,,any of Bacon's post.

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Contracts - PTCO

Until we return to teaching the meaning of individual freedom honestly in our schools, and point out the mistakes that have been made in limiting the freedoms of members of a civil society – we are making a mockery of the intent of the words found in our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution.

Regarding this government that you distrust: In the United States, the government is a reflection of the involvement of the citizens involved in ‘government’. The true power of the people in local and national government is the VOTE. Our forefathers felt that only certain citizens should vote. As time went by, this caused great unrest in the United States – and the unrest continues. The words of the Constitution, based on the ideas of ‘freedom’ as expressed by the founding fathers were inclusive. The founding fathers did not practice what their words ‘preached’. People from around the world came to our shores based on the promise of the ‘words’.

Your not so clever idea of government workers not being treated as equal citizens of this country – is putting them into the category of slaves. No one in the White House or Congress would be able to vote. They would be the ‘paid servants’ of the people with little or no say-so in our country – yet they would be responsible for implementing/writing the laws of this country. This idea, which you see as a problem solver, will cause greater ‘unrest’ than you can imagine.

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1. Individual freedom and it's meaning is likely never to be taught in government schools, it is counter to government interests.
2. I don't distrust all government we need government, I distrust the form of government (social democracy), this form was not the intent of the social contract as written in our founding documents.
3. It was not the Founders words or even their individual actions that make a difference, it was their ideas. Those ideas and philosophy are what we should protect and not corrupt.
4. REF my argument, No one is forced to work for government DM, to do so is a act of choice, not slavery. If you want to vote then don't work for the government. No one would be excluded because of race, gender, sexual orientation or birth right. They would be excluded from voting because they made the decision to work for the government or derive their income from government sources (direct contracts).

What exactly do you mean by "unrest" DM? Did we have "unrest" before we allowed public servants to organize into unions? These unions have become very large voting blocks to serve their own interests, increasing their membership pay and benefits at the expense of the taxpayer using the force of government.

This is a conflict of interests and is outside the bounds of our social contract with our government.

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We should agree to disagree. There was unrest in this country long before Unions existed. Where did you learn American history? The founders ideas are what make this country great. We have never really lived up to those ideas or ideals - but the trying to live up to them is what make this country great. Your argument regarding 'working for government' is interesting - and very Libertarian. Do you realize, using your definition of 'government workers', how many may make the decision not to work for government in order to maintain their 'right to vote'? Is this the Libertarian program to limit the peoples right to participate in 'government'? Actually, with the poor turn out in too many elections - this may be a moot point - however since the last two elections, the younger citizens are recognizing that their vote does make a difference.

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American History

I have too many sources to list them all here, but the American history taught in public schools, including colleges, is replete with leftist dogma.

This is a natural extension of government schools reinforcing the virtues of government over the individual. The state has always been at war with individual liberty DM. You above all should know that, you lived through it.

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but the American history taught in public schools, including colleges, is replete with leftist dogma.

Like: We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

or: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

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The state has always been at war with individual liberty DM. You above all should know that, you lived through it.

The state, years ago in our country, protected the individual rights of people who did not have my skin color - and wanted me and mine to remain separate. (and unequal - in rights to opportunity) Yup - I lived through it - and will not let that happen to my grandchildren or great grandchildren because of some perceived 'lack of ability' on the part of African Americans. There are Americans of all colors who are not taking advantage of their inalienable rights. Right? Just my point of view based on my life experience.