Key House Democrat: "There Are No Rules Here ... We Make Them Up As We Go Along"

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Joe Kawfi
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Key House Democrat: ""There ain't no rules here, we're trying to accomplish something. . . .All this talk about rules. . . .When da deal goes down . . . we make 'em up as we go along." - Rep. Alcee Hastings (Fla. Democrat) said in the United States House of Representatives."

Typical Chicago-style political thuggery. The demcrap party doesn't need no stinking rules - They are doing this for King Obama, afer all - not the people!

It will be fun to watch the democrat party get politcally "neutered in November" and be in the political wilderness for a generation while the grown ups try to clean up the mess that they are creating for America.

Today is a day to weep for America, as the democrat party takes more and more of our liberties away from us.

For the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed to be an American.

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The "majority vote" rules! The rules don't rule!

And they are legitimate rules and have been used by both parties many times.

You ain't sene nothin yet, to come to resolve the eight year mess!

What liberty did you lose today?

If not an American, what do you wish to be? To whom besides the 1000 on here will you show the shame to?

Joe Kawfi
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Pro-Life Leaders Blast Stupak Abortion Deal

The fact of the matter is - This 'president' has been known to tell outright lies in order to get people to go his way. This will be no exception - he can say anything at this point and no one will hold him accountable for it.

Besides that, Presidential orders cannot override Law. This is going to be a law, and I can guarantee you that our tax dollars will go toward going to kill unborn babies. That's what presbo had in mind all along -

William Saunders, AUL’s senior vice president for legal affairs, penned an op-ed piece in The Washington Examiner on Sunday that raised legal concerns as well. He said the Supreme Court has ruled on several occasions that a presidential executive order cannot be used to overrule congressional legislation.

“While a carefully worded executive order might be able to take care of some of the mandate concerns, it cannot correct all of the abortion-related problems with the bill,” Saunders wrote. “A statute cannot be undone by an executive order or regulation. For example, an executive order cannot prevent insurance plans that pay for abortions and participate in the newly-created exchanges from receiving federal subsidies, because this allowance is explicitly written in the bill.”

Marjorie Dannenfelser, president of the pro-life Susan B. Anthony List organization, released a statement Sunday afternoon calling the executive order “offensive.”

“The very idea is a slap in the face to the pro-life movement and should be offensive to all pro-life members of Congress. An executive order can be rescinded at any time at the president’s whim. The courts could and have a history of trumping executive orders,” she stated.

In one sense, it struck observers as remarkable that the president would issue the order, given that both the administration and Democratic leaders have maintained throughout the debate that the Senate bill did not impact the federal prohibition on the expenditure of taxpayer dollars for abortion.

The executive order now appears to acknowledge that was not the case.

Part of the order reads: “Following the recent passage of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (“the Act”), it is necessary to establish an adequate enforcement mechanism to ensure that Federal funds are not used for abortion services (except in cases of rape or incest, or when the life of the woman would be endangered), consistent with a longstanding Federal statutory restriction that is commonly known as the Hyde Amendment.”

Pence called the executive order a “tacit admission” that the bill’s language in fact does provide for public funding of abortion.

Immediately following Stupak’s announcement, former Virginia Gov. Douglas Wilder speculated on Fox News that given the shortcomings of executive orders when applied to congressional legislation, Stupak might have had other, less public reasons for his about face.

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The Only Bipartisanship Is The Opposition

Democrats Say The Bill “Dramatically” Cuts Medicare, Will “Increase The Deficit,” Has “Explosive Costs,” “Skyrocketing Premiums,” And “Raising Taxes”


REP. LARRY KISSELL (D-NC): "I Made A Promise And Commitment That I Would Look Out For Medicare, And I'm Doing That…The Method Of Funding Makes It Impossible For Me To Change My Vote On That Bill." (“Kissell Faces Pressure On Health Care,” Charlotte Observer, 03/03/10)

REP. JASON ALTMIRE (D-PA): "Particularly Hard Hit Would Be Western Pennsylvania’s Medicare Beneficiaries, Which Many Experts Believe Would Experience Dramatic Premium Increases With Enactment Of This Bill.” (Rep. Jason Altmire, Statement, 3/19/10)


REP. FRANK KRATOVIL (D-MD): “The bill’s overall price tag of $1.07 trillion is above the target set by democratic leadership earlier in the debate, even after cutting the $208 billion “doctor fix” out from previous versions of reform legislation. When this additional cost is added to this bill, the congressional budget office has stated that the package would increase deficit by $59 billion in the next 10 years.” (“Kratovil: “No On Health Care,” Baltimore Sun, 03/21/10)

REP. CHET EDWARDS (D-TX): “At a time of massive federal deficits, I believe these bills could make those deficits worse.” (Rep. Chet Edwards, Statement, 3/10)

REP. TRAVIS CHILDERS (D-MS): “I have reviewed the bill and I remain deeply concerned about the legislation’s large price tag and the absence of sufficiently strong language to prohibit federal funding of abortion. (Rep. Travis Childers, Statement, 3/18/10)

REP. ARTUR DAVIS (D-AL): “[A] comprehensive, 2000 page, near one trillion dollar overhaul of the healthcare system is just too cumbersome and too costly in a time of trillion dollar deficits.” (Rep. Artur Davis, Statement, 3/11/10)


REP. MICHAEL ARCURI (D-NY): “The health care package expected to be voted on in the coming days doesn't do enough to keep health care costs in check.” (Rep. Michael Arcuri, Statement, 3/18/10)

REP. JOHN BARROW (D-GA): “It puts too much of the burden of paying for it on working folks who are already being overcharged, and that’s not fair.”(Rep. John Barrow, Statement, 3/10)

REP. JOHN ADLER (D- NJ): “The final health care reform bill does not do enough to make health care affordable for middle-class families, small businesses, seniors and taxpayers.” (Rep. John Adler, Statement, 3/19/10)

REP. BOBBY BRIGHT (D-AL): “I simply believe we cannot afford the massive cost associated with these proposals, especially while our fragile economy continues to recover.” (Rep. Bobby Bright, Statement, 3/02/10)

REP. JIM MARSHALL (D-GA): “People are very concerned about cost; I’m concerned about cost. If you just do more of the same, which is largely what this does, more third party pay, that’s basically what the problem is here, then you’re going to get continued explosive costs.” (“Blue Dog Democrat says Obama health-care plan will bankrupt country,” The Daily Caller, 03/05/10)

REP. WALT MINNICK (D-ID): "I appreciate the thoughts of thousands of Idahoans on both sides of this issue. Although I plan to vote against the bill tomorrow due to serious concerns about costs, I sincerely hope that we can soon come together as a nation on the other important issues of the day." (“Idaho representatives ready for health care reform vote,” Idaho News Channel 7, 03/20/10)

REP. JOHN TANNER (D-TN): “I am unconvinced that the long-term trend of rising health care costs is adequately addressed and am therefore unable to support the legislation.” (Rep. John Tanner, Statement, 3/21/10)

REP. GLENN NYE (D-VA): “I am not convinced it will effectively reduce the cost of health care for families and small businesses.” (First-term Democrat Nye voting against health care bill,” Virginian Pilot, 03/21/10)


REP. MIKE McINTYRE (D-NC): “Health care reform is needed, but the bill before us is too expensive, does not adequately address rising medical costs and skyrocketing insurance premiums, and tries to do too much too soon. (Press Release, 03/19/10)

REP. JIM MATHESON (D-UT): “I am saddened that the year-long debate on health reform has resulted in legislation that is too expensive, contains too many special deals, does not contain health care costs and will result in increases in health insurance premiums and therefore I will vote against the legislation.” (Press Release, 03/20/10)


REP. DAN BOREN (D-OK): “There is no chance I am voting for this bill because it raises taxes on businesses, creates job-killing mandates, grows the size of government, and cuts services to seniors.” (Rep. Dan Boren, Statement, 2/24/10)

REP. ZACK SPACE (D-OH): "They are opening the door to taxing employee benefits as income, which is going to create, I don’t care how you slice it, a hardship for middle class families that they can’t afford to endure right now." (“Rep. Zack Space to vote against health care bill,” Cleveland Plain Dealer, 03/20/10)

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