Black teens murder white baby for the fun of it

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The baby was shot right in front of it’s mother by two black teenage thugs. The shooter is believed to be between the ages of 13 and 15. His accomplice was even younger. The mother was also shot in the leg.

Brunswick, GA is about 60% black. The area where the murder took place is overwhelmingly black. The 2010 census shows the area to be 13% white and 73% black.

Black teens murder white baby for the fun of it

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Man in coma after black mob of 50 pummels him

“This is not super uncommon,” said Bob Fox in the reader comment section of the Pioneer Press. “I have seen a white guy or two get surrounded and beat down and robbed quite a few times. Around the bus stops at 5th and Minnesota and 6th and Minnesota are the worst. Damn right it is a hate crime. They attack like a pack of wolves.” (and then scatter like the cockroaches they are)

Man in coma after black mob of 50 pummels him

Where is obama comments to 'look inwardly' on this? Where is holder calling for civil rights violation trials, because I'm pretty darned sure this poor guys civil rights were violated by this pack of wild hyenas.

Where are the typical score of race-mongers to call for marches on the families of these kids. Where are the fathers to teach them right from wrong. This was a modern day lynching.

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Come on Al Sharpton, Come on Jesse jackson where is your

outrage at these fifty black men beating this one white man into a coma? Where are the marches shoulder to shoulder with this man's family? Where are the t-shirts emblazoned with his picture? Where are the continuous tv spots showing the two of you demanding justice; and screaming Racism? Could it be that you don't give a damn? Could it be that there is no money to be made from this? The sound of your silence is thunderous. As is the silence on this blog from the usual suspects. Hmmmm

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Come on MYTMITE

Their outrage is a selective outrage. What is the common denominator that results in taking to the streets in protest? Only one thing resonates and therefore sells.....

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More hate crimes against whites

NYPD: Man Brain-Dead Following Random Rampage In Union Square
“He said ‘the next white person who walks by I’m going to [expletive],’” one woman said. “His fist went in and the man’s head bobbed and he hit the ground and you could hear his skull hitting the ground.”

The question is, why so many recent unprovoked attacks on whites by blacks? Is this a new movement fomented by the recent rallies and marches by blacks?

It's so senseless and sad. This poor guy was his 92-year-old mother's caretaker and a piece of human filth took him away from her for no other reason than his desire to kill a white person.

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Mr. Garvin - Thanks

For pointing out the exceptional, would you say at the very least given the US population and the percentages that this is pretty unusual?

Doesn't make it right, but does make it unusual, as are all race based crimes between the races because of race. Now, if you want to report the usual, point out black on black crime. It's not necessarily race based but it is a issue of race for sure.

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PTCO-Unusual?

Not sure what data you're looking for. But what would really be unusual would be white on black crime. If it's race based it is 14 times more likely to be black on white than the other way around. Still you are correct that most crime is black on black. In fact although only about 13% of the population is black they account for for about 50% of all crime. And quoting those statistics is called profiling and is considered racist. Even if it is true.

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Percentages are interesting, but numbers, it's about the numbers. Out of 380 million people or so the number of black on white crime is quite low, for race as a motivator of the crime.

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Still not sure what point you're trying to make. But you want numbers? OK the DOJ estimates that the number for hate crimes exceeds 250,000 per year. as a percentage yes that is low. About 6.5% of the population. So I guess we just ignore it?

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/03/26/doj-study-more-than-250000-hate...

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G35 - and

How much of this hate crime was black on white?

I am not saying we ignore anything, I am saying we need to put it into perspective.

Or are we simply intending to inflame based on exceptions?

I would say that you are as likely to be a victim of a hate crime as you are to be struck by lighting, and for the same reasons.

Don't stand under a tree during a storm, use good judgement.

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How much of this hate crime was black on white?

Well since I already stated that 14 out of 15 hate crimes are black on white that would put the number at about 235000. I do agree that by using good judgement you can reduce your personal chances considerably. I'm not trying to inflame but I think by hiding your head in the sand you increase your chances of being a victim.

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G35 Dude - I suppose

I suppose that having your head in the sand is better than having it in other places. To put this in context, your individual chance of being a victim of a black on white hate crime (assuming your white and using your numbers) is approximately 0.00030921052632. So, while you can say that your intention is not to inflame, this is exactly what you are doing. If you want to go strolling through the hood, I would reckon that your odds would be increased somewhat, but not a lot. You would likely just be robbed because you look like you had some money. I suppose you could get shot too but the odds are low as long as you turn over your property.

So, I would suggest that instead of focusing on the exceptional cases, we all get a grip on reality. Let's instead focus on what we can do as individuals to make relations between the races better. For example, use the Golden Rule whenever possible, it works miracles no matter what race you happen to come across. It's amazing when you treat people well, how well people treat you.

Oh yes, pack heat.

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Let's instead focus on what we can do as individuals to make relations between the races better. For example, use the Golden Rule whenever possible, it works miracles no matter what race you happen to come across. It's amazing when you treat people well, how well people treat you.

Oh yes, pack heat.

On this we agree!!!

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Shame on you PTCO; you're making a rational argument

Your argument is very clear that Dude has cited an accurate statistic that is pragmatically meaningless because of the miniscule incidence of the problem in the wide population. Of course, you have interrupted his narrow talking point and demonstrated it to prove nothing.

This does not indicate that racially motivated crime is nonexistent; however, any serious discussion of the topic requires more thought than a second and more space than a sentence. On this blog, such extreme consideration of a topic is reserved for your reading list, your restaurant preference, the local politician that you hate today, or (mostly) to vilify anyone who dares to point out your shallow thinking.

But thanks for trying. I appreciate any attempt to consider an issue honestly and rationally.

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I join STF in expressing sincere appreciation for your dignity in expressing your opinion.

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G35

You are not trying to inflame anything. You are just stating facts. If PTCO wants to stick their head in the sand till some black beats if off, oh well. At least PTCO has an audience of one who agrees with them, DM. Now that is really something to be proud of.

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Suggarfoot-Thanks

Yeah, PTCO asked for numbers not percentages so I supplied them. I wasn't trying to inflame, only inform. But I guess that insulted him. Still as stated by STF and DM he stayed classy with statements like this:

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I suppose that having your head in the sand is better than having it in other places.

And he says:

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Percentages are interesting, but numbers, it's about the numbers.

Then he makes his point by using percentages? Well he is correct that Hate crimes when compared to the entire population is a low percentage. But so is every other crime when compared by category to the entire population. I wonder if 235k out of 250k hate crimes were white on black if it would be considered too small to worry about or if we'd be hearing speeches from Jackson, Sharpton, and Obama? And seeing marches in the streets? Maybe we should ask George Zimmerman?

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G35 Dude - now

Now, now don't take things too personally G35, I am sure you have your head in the right place, the question is where is your heart?

Yes, percentages are used to express probability as well, toss a coin and you have a 50% chance of a head or a tail. The chances of you being attacked by a black person because they hate your race expressed as a probability is the figure I used.

Hope this clears this up for you.

Stop worrying so much, you live in a pretty safe community. Turn off your TV too, you'll be a happier person.

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PTCO- Not personal

LOL Don't worry about me. I don't take anything that is said out here in cyber world personally. I just attempt to state my opinions with full knowledge that not all will agree. You made your point. That the chances of anything happening is remote. And I made mine. That being that these numbers would not be acceptable if the roles were reversed. It just depends on the angle that you look at it from. As you said earlier, be nice to all people and 95% will respond in kind. And pack heat for that other 5%.

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Suggarfoot -? Don't

You don't agree with the Golden Rule?

Have you a mathematics degree of some sort? Statistics perhaps? Could you let us know why we should all be cowering in our homes waiting for the next "black" attack?

Perhaps you can tell us how you've made things better in our world, I am sure you do great things for our community, bring people together to accomplish great things we can point to.

You seem interested in tearing things down, so you must build them up some place else. Church perhaps? A reassuring touch to a sick person in need perhaps? Or maybe working to provide the disadvantaged with a helping hand.

Now you don't do these things for "white people" only do you? You know you don't , so why all the blarney about race? You don't know any black people you say? How can it be with a woman with such an open heart.

We are all anxiously waiting your inspiring and thoughtful reply.

BTW, my issues with DM stem entirely with her political philosophy, not her race.

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Why would/should you make such condescending remark to G35?…

“Stop worrying so much, you live in a pretty safe community. Turn off your TV too, you'll be a happier person.”

…then in the next breath say to me ..

” Could you let us know why we should all be cowering in our homes waiting for the next "black" attack? “

You go round in circles, yet looking down on anyone that reads the papers and has their own thoughts on what is going on. You are talking down to everyone as if you alone are knowledgeable on all fronts and G35 and everyone else are mindless twits. Your opinion is not shared by everyone You have more in common with DM that at 1st glance

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Suggarfoot - Oh my

I was merely giving you the opportunity to shine Suggarfoot, I guess you don't want to take it.

I am certain that we all come across differently on this board than we really are, including you.

For example, I don't believe for one minute that you are paranoid. I believe that if I ever met you, you would be a normal, caring and giving person to all races that you come across. Really! That's what I truly believe.

Turning off your TV would be a good idea because it simply scares you and takes you into a world that doesn't generally exist based on probabilities. These media giants are merely playing on your emotions to sell advertising. It warps your perspectives on the world around you.

I hope you don't think I am talking down to you, I don't mean to. ;-)

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Fred

That is such a sad thing to read. This all goes back to the feeling of entitlement our politicians and race baiters have instilled in those unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives.

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very sad

http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/antoniowest.asp

When the rants were going on about pour lill Trayvon Mar en, I noticed that the ones getting their licks in most were black CNN news women. It was the most tilted thing I've ever seen.

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Killing humans

Is sad regardless of the color. Why is it necessary to join those you consider race baiters by using denigration? Our enemies want to see Americans divided, and our Archilles Heel is race. The citizens of FC are majority Republican; conservative; etc. -but there are others (Democrats, Liberal), who live next door to each other, shop in the same stores, attend the same churches, etc. in peace. An all- American community. And most are not offended by hearing another point of view. (And there are other points of view that will continue to be expressed.) The suspects in this case are claiming innocence. There will be a trial and we hope justice will be done. An innocent child was killed. The color of skin is clouding the real tragedy. A child is dead.