* What if you knew a storm was coming?

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rEV
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What would you do if you saw all over the world wide media that there was a huge storm coming?

What would you do if you knew a huge storm was coming but you weren't sure where it was going to hit, how hard it would hit, or how it would effect your life?

What if you saw people on the evening news clearing out the grocery store shelves of all the food and water, toilet paper, gasoline, generators, and so on?

What if you saw lines at the bank from people withdrawing their cash just in case the power is out for an extended period of time?

People all around our nation are preparing for some sort of storm but none of them are exactly sure what kind yet. I keep thinking that I need to prepare but then I realize that I have no idea what to prepare for. I do know that any kind of preparation supplies are now at an all time high.

I guess the main question I want to ask is, if you are going to prepare, what are you waiting for? Are you waiting for a day when you see someone on Fox, or CNN say it's time to prepare now? If we ever see and hear that message it will already be too late.

I'm asking because I am not near as ready as I want to be and sometimes I feel like there is no reason to prepare at all. But then some days I see signs that remind that things are getting really bad. Crime is on the rise, tensions world wide are on the rise, unemployment is at a 25 year high, the Fed is devaluing our dollar almost on a daily basis by printing more and more money, our Government is creating a debt that no one could repay in our lifetimes, very little if anything is being done about the influx of illegals crossing our borders from the south and that's getting even worse with all the violence going on down there. And yet our "leaders" think that our worst threat is Iraq and Afghanistan? The central banks and the greed in America are far more a danger to us than foreign countries are right now. Our President just signed a law giving him Executive powers to shut down our main line of communication and in my opinion our only source for truth (the internet) if he declares a national emergency. Well if we are all stocked up on supplies and a national emergency is declared, the internet shut down, then the only source we would have to "news" is our TV and we all know they would never lie to us right? LOL

We are learning more and more everyday that media hypocrisy is turning us all against each other. We know that voting for the Left is no better than voting for the Right, they are both wrong. And both sides have made it abundantly clear that they are going to waste our tax dollars no matter how loud we scream.

I read this week that Ron Paul is predicting a complete economic collapse within the next 16 months. I'm not sure what he is using as a scale but it seems pretty clear to me that about the time the health care issue starts becoming a reality that this is also the time that hyper inflation will be inevitable.

I don't know what the answers are right now. I guess in order to prepare correctly you have to know what you are preparing for and that I do not know. What I do know is that government spending is not slowing down, the printing presses are not slowing down, people are beginning to get desperate, it is becoming more and more apparent that our "representatives" are not listening to us, tens of thousands are jobs per month still going out the window, and I have this gut feeling that we are just one man made or natural disaster away from complete collapse in this country and that has me a bit worried. I think a lot of people are waking up but I feel like the majority of the country is still in a Mass Media induced comma and have no clue that we are being led to slaughter.

What are your thoughts?

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Storm coming

rev I totally agree, I'm with you.......I feel helpless....{gonna stick my head back in the sand now}

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To rEV: End of the world?

I recall many,many years ago that someone would predict the end every few years. It was usually a religious person (whatever that means).
Of course the time came and went and nothing happened but many stopped what they were doing at the exact time predicted and just waited!
I don't think you need to worry too much. Even if no one had a job and money was totally worthless we wouldn't be any worse off than were the Norwegians in about 900 say. They didn't even have running water, TV, radio, cell phones, cars, jobs, taxes to pay, and there weren't any jails!
We must have survived that---we are still here.

What with about 9 billion humans around the world now and maybe about 15 billion by the next census after the next, we may have to start eating boiled potatoes, roots, and bark after we eat all the animals.

Anyway, The Persians, The Greeks, The Christians and the Muslims of the 10-1200 time frame, The Romans, the Horrible Huns and Germans, and Alexander and Kublai Khan, and of course The British, thought they would save us also from the terrible end.

We have already lasted the longest--about 230 years and maybe someone else will come up with a better idea!

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Bonkers you need to read

I Recommend the following book as a thought provoking fictious read about an Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) attack that would shut down everything that runs on electronics.

ONE SECOND AFTER
By: William R. Forstchen

Reading would be much more productive for you.....

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stop the madness of responding to yourself

It is a ridiculous exchange that sucks the intelligence out of my brain.

Bonkers
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deflochy: Read?

Is it on Kimble or CD?

That bomb at high altitude story has been around since the invention of diodes and circuits!

No one has the capacity right now to do that---even us.

What if they did? Back to 1930 huh? Cept we knew how to raise food then with a mule and our backs.

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Every Nuke emits an EMP

It is relativity simple to increase the fluctuating magnetic field.

"In military terminology, an EMP bomb detonated hundreds of kilometers above the earth's surface is known as a high-altitude electromagnetic pulse (HEMP) device. Nuclear electromagnetic bombs have three distinct time components that result from different physical phenomena. Effects of an EMP device depend on the altitude of the detonation, energy yield, interactions with the earth's magnetic field, and shielding of targets."

Currently 17 Country's/States are known or suspected of having Nukes.. So with a total arsenal of around 23,000 nukes world wide and with many of those not fully secured then it is entirely within the realm of possibility that we could be attacked by an EMP weapon.

An airliner flying over say New York at 38,000 feet with a 50 MT device would in all likelihood destroy our financial centers.. A rogue state launches a sub-orbital rocket disguised as a Satellite.. Same effect larger scale..

Just saying..

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Getting ready for the coming Storm

Rev, you wrote an excellent blog, covering most of our problems and posing questions everyone should be thinking and talking about. I study the problems everyday; seeking solutions to protect myself and my family. The only thing I’m sure about is, there‘s no easy way out.

I know that debt and reckless spending by governments is the prime cause of our dilemma and that leads to social and political mayhem. John Maynard Keynes once wrote, “There is no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society than to debase the currency”.

I know that deflation is the punishment exacted by the laws of economics for un-payable debts that must be written off; and inflation is punishment exacted by governments as the cost of keeping bloated bureaucracies propped up while delaying and making worse the inevitable monetary collapse. Politicians who have practiced this monetary fraud should be brought before a “people’s court” and convicted of treason against the American people.

Economist Paul Samuelson said, “At some time in the near future, there will be a run on the dollar that precipitates a global financial crisis”. The crisis has already started in Europe with the collapse of Greece.

Economist Milton Freidman said, “Inflation if not checked in time, can destroy a society. The fate of a nation is inseparable from the fate of its currency”. Possibly some of you have noticed that our Congress has done nothing except print more money which leads to more inflation.

Ron Paul (R. TX) recently warned Congress, “All paper currencies are vulnerable to collapse. Paul has introduced a bill to audit the Fed (HR1207) that passed the house but is held up in Senate Committee, as usual.

But that greatest of all Economic Historian Bonkers says, not to worry we survived the dark ages and we will survive today’s problems. The Question Rev asked is, how and at what costs to each individual?

11 Things some people are doing to prepare

1. Buying gold to protect the value of their savings and pensions, and silver coins for a medium exchange.
2. Buying guns and ammo to protect from future chaos.
3. Stocking up on canned goods and other food necessities - minimum 1 year’s supply. Also candles and flashlights.
4. Installing home generators in case of electrical outages.
5. Hiding things from thieves and governments, PVC pipes are good for burying valuables.
6. Buying electric golf carts and bicycles for transportation when gas gets scare.
7. Paying off all debts and mortgages or buying land or a cabin in the mountains on a well.
8. Digging a well in your back yard.
9. Accumulating other medium of exchange like alcohol or wine. Cigarettes were used in Germany after World War II collapsed their monetary unit.
10. Medicines and vitamins.
11. Prepare a garden spot and stock up on seeds.

If everything turns out great, you haven’t lost anything. And if you buy the same dollar amount of gold that you spend on every other item, you will have prepared cost free and even made money.

Basically, you need to think 6 things: Food, water, clothing, shelter, heat and a medium of exchange for bartering. Or if you think the government will take of you, don’t do anything.

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"The Shadow Knows?"Or do he?

The only thing I agree with you about is it is going to get somewhat worse with the economy before it reverses and starts to improve. Nothing can be done about it since the great losses in stocks, property, etc., are gone and much of it written off. The government is also about out of credit. There are tens of thousands of commercial venture yet to die---also many more banks. All due to what you say but mostly by non-regulation of crooks.

Now, as to what to do, you sound like that bunch up in the GA mountains and out in Colorado, I think--and the Mormons. They are stocked up somewhat.

First let me say this: if my family gets hungry I know where these dudes with the hoarded food are---I will go take what I need, and so will many others. A few guns won't stop it.

Buy gold you say: where do you get actual bullion bars and what are you going to do with them to protect them? Pieces of paper and junk with some gold in it are useless.
Home generators. Where will you get the gas to run it? It will all be stolen, and besides if I get cold, I'll be at your house also!
Hiding things in PVC pipes----right--those bullion bars I guess.
I won't comment on the golf carts and mountain cabins!
As to wells in your yard, alcohol and cigarettes. Forget that. There ain't no water and they would steal it if you had any, and the cigarettes.
As to preparing a garden spot (in this white and red clay) and stocking up seed----wouldn't you need to plant the seeds as soon as the soil was "prepared?" The cats, squirrels,and other hungry animals would get that little bit.

Rather than hermitize, lets work to correct it ASAP.

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Recent Comments??

Many thing aren't showing up in the list of "Recent Comments."

They don't even seem to be listed under the category section as having been added!

Talking to one's self isn't interesting!

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Bonkers: I think Cal deletes things that make no sense

Hope you understand, lttle buddy

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Morgan: Cal

You have been reading Shadow and Rev! Hard to understand?
I realize r wingers have a hard time with facts.

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I'm going to respond by first

I'm going to respond by first saying that my response is going to be somewhat hypocritical because everything that I'm going to recommend, I've done nothing about. First, I'm not in any way talking about the End Times and our lord and savior coming back to rescue us all from what's going on. Second, There is absolutely something we can do about the crimes being committed against us by the elites. We can certainly fight health care and we don't need the dang governments "help" to do it. Their help includes their profits, not ours. No matter what "their help" looks like, we still get screwed. We can certainly fight Credit card abuse by the "creditors" and we can certainly fight the big oil companies from gouging us, and we can also fight these illegal wars our "leaders" send our sons, daughters, mothers, fathers, and brothers and sisters into to die. The way we fight these things is by setting our racial, political, and religious backgrounds aside for one freakin second and realize that we are the ones getting screwed out of everything, we lose no matter which way we turn. We have to join together on a "GLOBAL" scale, we out number these elitist a million to one, literally, and yet we allow them, not only allow but we encourage them to screw us.

HOW? we watch their commercials on TV, we buy their useless, needless products and 90% of those products wind up in our land fills and we all end up back at the hospital pleading for more care, that costs us double and triple because they know we will pay for those who can't pay.

WE all have to say NO MORE, Together! One at a time won't cut it. That is the only way I can see that anything will get done.

Don't forget, it's government for the people by the people, not government against the people paid for by the people.

And as far as that comment about the mythological EMP bomb that could take out all of our electronics. All it would take to shut down one of our nations largest oil, technology, agriculture, and economic resources in our nation is a dirty bomb smuggled into the port of Houston. And yet we allow them to convince us that we have to have full body scanners and strip searches at every airport in case someone hijacks a plane. We are such fools to think that "they" who ever they are would be dumb enough to hijack or even attempt to attack a plane after the false flag attack on 9/11. Specially when it's common knowledge that only a fraction of containers coming in to our nations ports are searched, the rest are sent on their way through the veins of America on our highway systems.

Our next false flag attack is going to be a cyber attack where the President declares a national emergencies rendering any and all of our online communications VOID. So we won't be able to discuss or even warn each other of the next false flag attack after that one. Our days of planning for the worst storm to ever hit America are numbered, and they know it. We have lost control of our nation to a group of corrupt and evil manipulative thieves and they will do nothing to stop what has been put in place. To find out the first mention of this storm just do a google search for September 11, 1991. Then follow the rabbit hole from there. That's certainly not where it started but it is where it was first mentioned publicly but we were all too focused on the entertainment industry to care about a New World Order.

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It's good to see you are not preaching "Social Justice"

Many Churches are falling in line with the Progressives on that one..

On being prepped.. Those of us that have seen this coming for a few years have been moving towards that goal.

We are going to see some really tough times. I don't know if we can pull back.. I would say it is possible if I saw in Washington a few that were standing up on the spending. Those few that do have a spine are not being heard.

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Your response is in a

Your response is in a nutshell all I'm talking about on this thread. The majority of Americans are angry and some are even screaming but their "representatives" are not either not screaming loud enough or just aren't being heard. So we need to all scream louder.

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We haven't paid the piper yet

I also think that we are headed for some harder times. We simply haven't paid the piper yet. It's like taking out an equity line of credit to pay off credit card debt - then breathing a sigh of relief that the credit card debt is gone. Is it really? No, you haven't actually PAID anything - just transferred the load. It's robbing Peter to pay Paul and it's just a veneer. It's not REAL and we haven't learned.

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As for the "End of Days" - well, I don't really believe that either. I don't worry about meteors or gamma rays. There's no sense in worrying about something we would have no control over and that none of us would survive. I am more worried about how we over medicate our population and how that leaves us vulnerable to future pandemic. MRSA is one example of how we have created a "super bug" by over prescribing antibiotics.

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To: Dawn: bad times and the end?

If you can get credit you will get it! Nuff said.

Saying something not understood won't happen is dangerous.
Trust the Pentagon to solve that by giving them more taxes.

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Also, the American economy is

Also, the American economy is going to collapse, it's inevitable at this point. Never before in History has spending and the printing of fiat money been allowed to go this long without some sort of checks and balance. Hyperinflation is going to happen and when it does, I would hate to be one of those people who are living paycheck to paycheck depending on Walmart for food because those lines as short lived as they are going to be will be a nasty place to be. Ron Paul, a thirty year congressman known as Mr. NO for voting no on most bills than any of his fellow congress members and who is also a member of the Austrian school of economics gives our nations economy sixteen months before full collapse. He could be wrong, but it would be the first time in thirty years that he misjudged our governments handling of money.

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Bonkers has solution for debt problem but,

He dismisses preparation for monetary collapse, still depending on government to save us, says lets work to correct it. So Bonk, tell us how you would work to correct the following?

Money&Markets.com reports this morning the hard numbers and the drama now unfolding.

1. In one week last month your government financed and refinanced $236 billion, working 24/7 around the clock to,
2. Borrow treasury notes, bills, and bonds that have to be paid back with more borrowing in 4 weeks to 30 years.
3. $110 billion of that must be paid back in 4 weeks to 6 months, and another $44 billion in 24 months.
4. This mind boggling scenario goes on every week from now to eternity.
5. In the 4th quarter 2009 borrowing totaled $1.04 trillion. Our total debt is now over $12 trillion. Tell us how much is a trillion? One estimate says if you lay out $1 bills, they would circle the earth.
6. This borrowing doesn’t even include the borrowing of all US local and state governments.
7. Result: governments have hogged the credit markets forcing out needed capital for business and consumers. Do you think that will help businesses to recover and start hiring people?

Tell us bonk how you would handle the problem? You’ve got only a few months to solve it because another double-dip recession is predicted by the end of 2010.

In answer to your questions, you can buy gold bullion at numerous places. Monex, California Numismatics, Investment Rarities, etc..and take delivery or store it in various facilities. Better to buy gold coins American eagles, kruggerands, Canadian maples and many more in 1oz. coins. $100,000 dollars worth can be put in a small bag in your bank safety deposit box or buried in those pvc pipes.

Contrary to your belief you can get water from a well. I would let you have some but I didn’t take you to raise. I will sell you a few acres in the mountains though with a huge underground lake for well water. Or some in a warmer climate in deep south Georgia on prime vegetable gardening land so you won’t have to worry about generators. You’re not there yet Bonk but at least you now recognize the problem and are asking intelligent questions. All be it too little too late.

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To Shadow: solution, but?

It doesn't matter how much money the world borrows from each other--it is just paper they issue to be traded around. There is always a market at some price.
As to buying Gold--the minute you or a few others started buying pure Gold ingots in sufficient quantities to make a difference----you would have visitors! Buy all of the low quality gold coins you want there won't be any buyers except by those who send you and envelope to cheat you or ignore you. Shipping gold in an envelope---think....

Now I don't know how any kind of "hoarding" would help but for a few days maybe. That includes a well for water. If you think you could sit fat and pretty eating hoarded food and drinking well water while others are hungry... you are terribly naive!
Preventing such a calamity is the only answer. President Obama is working on it. So is congress and some private enterprises.