Are you Prepared?

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I have been fielding a lot of calls lately from friends, fellow bloggers and “others” that want to know what they need to do to “get” prepared. To those that will say “What makes you qualified” well let’s just say those that know me also know that I am. Take the advice or not it is up to you.
First this is not about ideology. It is not about an Economic collapse (which I think is coming) nor is it about Global conflict (which I think is coming) or some other man made event like a Terrorist strike (which I also think is coming). It could be a Natural event say a Super-Storm maybe?

It is about being an asset instead of a drain on resources and about having…, let’s say, options.
The following list and discussion is far from complete and there are many factors which can and will make your preparations inadequate. You cannot prepare for every eventuality. You can only prepare as best you can for the most likely scenarios and hope that what you do can keep you alive. The information here is not about survival of the Zombie Apocalypse you would need a lot more information and preparation then I have the energy or time to go into, however should you find yourself in a life threatening situation maybe the information here will give you a fighting chance.
First let me say I don’t like the show Doomsday Preppers.. I personally think they are idiots. You don’t tell people what stored dry goods and durables you have, location of them and your plans for “events”. It would be easy, let’s say, to surround the house lob in some WP and wait for you to exit to take you out then grab your supplies that you told everyone was in the basement behind fireproof doors.

So Rule #1… Keep quiet. Keep your preparations off the grid. Unless you are ready to feed the neighbors share your ammo and supply them with medicine I would suggest you rethink telling people just how much of a prepper you really are.
Pre Determine Bunker Status.
Simply…are you staying or are you going.
i. You have to first determine rather or not your home is defensible and rather or not resources will remain plentiful and easily obtainable.

Scenario #1 – In the event of a Biological Release or a Radiological event are you in an evacuation path?
Let’s look at Atlanta as a target for a Terrorist strike. In the event of a Bio/Radiological release the prevailing winds with Atlanta as ground zero are West to East and Southeast to Northwest.
The flight path for people leaving Atlanta will be to the West and Southwest. These people will be scared, hungry and looking for resources. They may have left with nothing but the clothes on their backs. With 1-3 Million people all fleeing, the surrounding areas resources will be quickly consumed.
These average citizens will become desperate and willing to take what they need to survive and soon Society will break down into complete anarchy.
Staying
i. If you are in the downwind path of the agent you will have no choice but to leave. If, however, you are not, then the option may be just as limited. You have to decide can you survive and protect your resources against the horde. If you are staying prepare the defenses of your home. Pre cut plywood for your windows and be able to barricade your doors. Make sure you have a safe room should your defenses (and they will) be breached.
Going
i. This will be your best option if you are in the evacuation path. You will need to have a place to go to. A pre-planned pre-reconnoitered location that you may be safe with sufficient resources cannot be done at the time of the event. Bug-Out bags will help but these can only last so long. Don’t wait. Delaying will put you in the path of the “evacuees” and make you vulnerable to having your resources taken.

Rule #2- Make a decision, make a plan and work the plan. If you don’t know what a Bug-Out bag is look it up. The Internet has valuable information on the minimum of resources you will need. Each vehicle should have one to accompany the Household Bug-Out bag. You will need a minimum of 72 hours of emergency supplies. This is the one area you don’t need to go cheap on.

The Staples
You will need food, water, shelter. Fuel for your car, weapons and ammo.
i. Weapons
There are no hard set rules here. My personal suggestions are:
Shotgun in any gauge-This is an excellent self-defense weapon, as well as, a tool for hunting.
Rifle- caliber sufficient to bring down a deer. This is necessary for self-defense, as well.
Rifle-Small caliber-This is needed for small game and can be used as self-defense. Additionally you can carry larger amounts of ammunition for this caliber.
Pistol-Auto or revolver in a common caliber. Ammunition may become hard to come by so be prepared to trade or scrounge for ammo. The most common pistol calibers are: .38, 9mm and .45
Serviceable knife-not a pocket knife. Survival knives are generally not something you keep in your pocket.
Rule #3- Ammunition in sufficient quantities. Now here many people differ from my perspective. I think the more you have the better. Other “survivalist” considers too much ammo to be just as bad as not enough food, weight distribution and all that. My thoughts on this are bartering. Ammunition makes excellent barter goods. If you have an excess of .22 or 5.56 you may need the extra boxes to trade for medicine or other needed items. In this there is never too much of a good thing.

1. The Plan
i. The day the event occurs is too late to make a plan. If you are at that point you will be just another drain on ever dwindling resources. You will find yourself out hitting Stores fighting with the evacuees for goods risking yours and your family’s lives.
ii. Discuss this with your family. They need to know. You will most likely be met with skepticism and denial. Work through it. Your survival and theirs may depend on it.

Rule #4- You may have to walk this path alone. In other words if your spouse thinks you are just being paranoid, well OK you might be but it doesn't mean to do nothing. Being an Ostrich is never good for the Ostrich if he cannot see the Lion stalking him. Besides if nothing happens then having extra food in the house can’t hurt. Have a camp out night, donate it, whatever but someone once told me it is better to have something and not need it then to need it and not have it. So get some shelf stable food enough for a family of four for a minimum of a week. If you can do it for 90 days great but remember if you have to bug out, you have to carry your provisions with you. So plan for that, as well.

Be Aware
Situational awareness is the key to survival. Just like you or your wife when walking through a parking lot at night. You must be aware of who is around you and what is going on around you. World events, National events, the Stock Market all are key indicators of potential threats to your safety. However there were few indicators that individually you would have been aware of leading up to the event on September 11th 2001. So you must be prepared and be aware. This might be nothing more than being aware of the weather reports.
i. We have seen, so called “emergencies” in recent years. One was when an internet rumor created a panic of a gas shortage. People started gassing up and topping off their cars. This caused an actual temporary shortage which fueled the rumor convincing the people that it was in fact true. Stations ran out of gas and those that had it the price rose dramatically. Fights and Assaults where the results.
ii. The second event was the Ice Storm of 2011. Trucks unable to deliver to stores caused a shortage of some food items. People were seen fighting over “Twinkies” in Atlanta. It was over a week before supplies returned to normal.

Rule #5- What ifs. What if it was real? In a sense it was. But what if a real emergency shut down the ability to re-supply Atlanta and surrounding areas with fuel and food? First don’t share. Now this rule is the hardest of all. I mean it is the Christian thing to do. You want to be a good neighbor and all that don’t you?
Most households only have about 24-48 hours of supplies. A family of four will get hungry really fast. When they run out and they cannot leave the area for whatever reason be it lack of fuel or a pandemic or a Terrorist action, they are going to be knocking on your door. If you share..once that is depleted they will be back and they may not be alone. So it’s another decision time for you. They will always be those that deplete resources without adding anything back. You can’t help everyone. Your first and foremost responsibility is your own family. Another good reason for bugging out early in the event.

Think about “Hooking up” in the event of a “Long-term” National event…
Ok probably not the way someone under 30 would think about it. Like minded people sharing resources kind of “Hooking Up”. Your family would be safer in a “group”. A well supplied, well armed “group” can share responsibilities, help gather supplies, grow food and hunt for it, as well as, protect it.
i. If you go this route and you don’t already have one set up you will have to find one. You will need to bring something of value to the group. In the brave “New” World the old 70’s saying will be true once again… A**, Grass or Gas no one rides for free. You will need to bring resources or be able to offer skills. So again plan ahead. If you don’t know how to hunt or fish…LEARN. Take a course in Gunsmithing. Learn to re-load anything that will bring value. Drainers will be dismissed one way or the other.
Rule #6- Going it alone may be the best option for you. If you have plenty of resources and have a site pre-prepared and you are away from anyone else then you don’t need a group but it should always be an option. Get to know any that might be in your AO, setup trade and barter agreements and mutual defense agreements. If one gun is good a bunch is whole lot better.

Remember it could be nothing more than a Natural event. Recently we saw the lines, heard about the fights over gas shortages in New Jersey and New York because of Hurricane Sandy. These places were without power and resources for over a week. Most were unprepared even though had had several days of warning. They stayed. They failed to grasp just how fragile Society is. Without power refrigerated food spoils quickly, without power fuel is unavailable, without fuel Emergency services become limited.
How you prepared for events may mean the difference between surviving the event of succumbing to it.
You cannot depend on Government to be there to give you food and shelter. Sandy was not even a National event. It wasn’t even Statewide yet it was weeks before power was restored and days before services came back online. People went hungry, had to leave their homes in search of food and supplies. If civil unrest had of taken hold these people would have been vulnerable at best victims at worst.
Your preparations can prevent that. Get some books; read some articles buy some food. Do something other than be a drainer of resources. The choice is yours. Don’t let events make the choice for you.

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plan b

if for whatever reason fight or flight is not an option get a tank of helium and some plastic bags

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So that would be flight SPQR...

...and not very practical. But thanks for playing.

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S. Lindsey:

It sounds like you might like an Amish farm.

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Nah, I got me...

...a Mayan calendar; I'm gonna make things right on Dec. 20th...the Amish Mafia got nothin' on me...! (disclaimer: not a threat of any kind, just a joke concerning the supposed end of the world because a demised society's calendar ended and they didn't make another one)

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Too pacifist for me Stone...

The Majority allow Society and Government to run over them so... not really my type. I already have executed my exit plan and already are "affiliated" loosely speaking so...

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Exit, stage extreme right

Have yourself a blast at the compound. I do hope your site is close to a source of flint and obsidian so you can make stone tools and arrowheads when the ammo runs out.

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The Compound

Communal living? Not many 'freedoms' in a compound. Those living under Communism for any period of time can attest to that! Have fun SL.

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Mutual Support Teams.. DM

Will be better then trying to survive while gangs of the past entitlement crowd roam their "New" hoods for victims and supplies.

You stay right where you are however... you'll be fine.

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Just saw this! Are you organizing mutual support teams? Or running from the perceived enemy. Who comprises the enemy? Take all the gold, silver, investments you can. Food and ammo would be the better barter item - according to movies that have covered this scenario. Oh - if so much effort could be put into the actions spurned by this simple sentence - Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. The majority of the different ethnic groups in our country live peacefully with one another because they sought peaceful ways to co-exist. The Indians fought back Fighting back in your and Hollywoods way - did not bring peaceful co-existence. Learn from the movie!! Civil disobedience occurs when NO ONE HELPS LAW ENFORCEMENT!

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Dm it's meds time...

... or hicolonic time which ever you do seem to be a little...uh...impacted tonight.

You have your ways of dealing I have mine and neither two shall meet.
Folks like Terry and I and others like Nuk and AHG are the ones who you see crawling out the rubble of some sort of disaster.. Folks like you are the ones we see on TV with "Please HELP us" painted on their rooftops.

But like I said you'll be fine... just stay where you are and do exactly what your heart says you should do... I realized a long...long...long time ago I can't save everyone.

Remember DM should you ever be mugged be sure to quote that "do unto" thingy to them..They might just stop.. you never know.

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Doubt we will run out... stone...

not in my life time anyway. But after that is black powder so sulfur, salt peter and charcoal is all you need..

It will take awhile to be forced back to the stone age there stone.. You know that whole Pandora's box thinghy.

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S. Lindsey: now that you mentioned it

Another sign we can expect to see in the near future: "Will work for ammo".

Seriously, I am a country boy who can survive. Been there, done that, except eat worms.

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rollingstone: LOL

I can remember years ago driving in midtown and some smart-azz GA Tech student was out on 10th Street in a suit holding a sign that said "Will Work for SEX!"

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Nuk, I think...

...that was Bill Clinton holding that sign!!

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...or was it Monica

I mean she did get a job doing that..

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SL, do you feel like the ant preaching to . . .

. . . a herd of grasshoppers bent on frolic while winter looms? Your advice on self-sufficiency and family preparation is good stuff, but many will laugh it off as crazy right-wing nutjob talk because they think our social order cannot break, that our way of life is their birthright, and that gub-ment will always be their caretaker. I guess that comes from life under the bubble of protection and plenty, never knowing we have always been weeks away from the law of the jungle - eat or be eaten.

When I was giving investment advice in the past, once in a while a client would press me for worst-case scenarios beyond the normal risk management, and my advice was always, "When things really hit the fan the best investment you could have made would be canned goods and ammunition." And it remains true.

You have reminded me of my own incomplete self-sufficiency checklist, and I need to do a few things. I had not thought of ammo as barter in a pinch, so thank you. I will prepare for the worst while hoping those days never come.

There is one important item I would add to your list - a battery-operated radio/transmitter with a hand-crank for when the batteries are dead. You can get one for about $75, and useful now for severe weather reports when the electricity is down.

Terry Garlock

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Ammo(or even food) is a MUCH better bartering item than gold, despite what all the goldbug freaks have been preaching for decades.

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NUK, if apocalypse ever did arrive . . .

. . . I am sure you are right about the best tools of barter. Nevertheless, I expect gold is the very best fall-back store of wealth even for the worst scenario. The problem is having at least part of that wealth in small enough denominations that you could actually buy things. All this is hypothetical unless civil order one day evaporates, and in that event I would want part of my store of wealth in silver, in small enough denominations that it might be useful after the chaos calmed down.

Terry Garlock

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Totally agree, Terry

I am not militantly against returning the "gold standard" of years past but there is a lot of misconceptions about how a gold standard would change things. First off, you can definitely have massive inflation even under a gold standard as has been shown by history and many governments and then you have the basic drawback of the reality that gold bars or coins aren't exactly the easiest to break/make change of. Gold has very little intrinsic value and is only worth what another person will give you for it; no different than fiat dollars in that respect.

something easier to break into smaller quantities like silver is a lot more logical, though it's hard to replace the basic necessities like food, clothing, shelter and protection/aggression(munitions) as barter tools.

Not that I think the world is going to end soon......I go to Sam's and buy in bulk so if it things go to hell, I do have a pretty amazing supply of toilet paper, paper towels and canned goods so I'll be well fed and somewhat clean it appears :)

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tgarlock excellent suggestions...

Also portable Solar generators. Additionally set up a water powered generator that will put out 10,000 watts 24/7 peak at 15,000 during high rains.. with a back up already installed. That way you can put both on-line for 20,000-30,000 watts respectively.

Don't mine violating Rule #1.. My prep is out of State so if this helps someone here just doing what I can.

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Hurry - SL AND GARLOCK

If you live to 2043, we may get ya! Utah may be a good place SL! Ministers, parents, - there is a lot of work to do to insulate our children against this type of not-so-subtle hate. Ghandi and MLK these posters are not!!

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Utah is a good place to go anytime! And luckily, I have a Son in Montana who owns a 5 bedrm house--plenty of room for 2 more residents!

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Utah and being prepared

I moved to Salt Lake City in 1983 and tried to please my wife about the relocation by telling her, "Do what you want about a house." So we hired an architect/builder to design a house around the mountain view as the Wasatch range shot up from the valley floor, topping out 5,000 feet up, starting about one mile east from our lot. I miss that house, it was well done.

The builder (I still remember his name - Gary Smith, great guy who built an impressive raquetball court into his own house) insisted for resale purposes we had to build into the basement a substantial cold storage room since part of Mormon practice is to keep a 6 month supply of food on hand just in case. That is a very wise practice that proves valuable when someone in the family loses a job, or suffers a catastrophic loss like a house burning down.

That also bolsters the Mormon practice of supporting a fellow church member in hard times.

And if the unthinkable ever happened and social order evaporated, Mormons as a group will likely fare better than anyone to keep their family sustained for a while, and I would expect them to guard their family's resources with lethal force. In an eat or be eaten world, that's how it is, and should be.

And DM, this discussion isn't hate-filled at all. If social order ever breaks down and law enforcement either disappears or is overwhelmed, it won't take long for the cockroaches among us to begin preying on the weak, and I for one could care less if the cockroach is black or white. Evil is the very real dark side of human nature, and protecting your family in that circumstance would require extreme measures.

Terry Garlock

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DM, your suggestion that my comments are based on hate . . .

. . . and that children need protection from me is both silly and insulting. Good people can disagree with no need to demonize.

I have no apology to make for believing - knowing - that our civil society is fragile enough to break, and that over recent decades we are stretching the economic fabric beyond all limits.

If breakdown in civil order ever comes, and I hope it does not, those who prepared will be best able to protect their family. I don't see any hate in that, and you don't know me well enough to compare me to Ghandi and MLK.

Terry Garlock

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Terry..It's fear that Dm fears...

Dm in her own right is a hater. She hates those of us that don't need or want Government to help us. We don't need to be dependent on Government so she fears us. That is why she makes the disparaging remarks she makes and even alludes that we need to be kept away from children as if we were some type of predators, she does it to try to minimize any influence that you or I might have. She constantly disparages peoples education status and if we disagree with her she calls us the not so dreaded anymore "R" word. (Racist)

In reality I suspect she is fearful of an eventual breakdown in Society, a not so irrational fear, by the way. She sees those of us that don't kneel at the alter of Government as threats to her vision of a Social utopia governed mostly by feelings and emotion instead of rational thought.

Terry I know you know that you can't save everyone and some quiet frankly are just not worth the effort.

We are on an unsustainable path..you know and I know and many, many more like us know where that path ends. I like you don't want to go there but nothing says that I can't be ready for it if it does.
This offends people like DM she believes in equal outcomes..and being able to take care of yourself and your family while others are not is not equal in the least.

Terry I don't make this offer often.. you need anything feel free to give me call.

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Steve, Terry, & Others

another good place to visit for info & supplies is:
theepicenter.com

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AHG.. I had forgotten about them...

... Thanks.

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Mr. Garlock

I apologize for putting you in the same category as SL. Your words indeed did not call for demonization. I have lived through civil disorder here in the US and other countries - and I agree that preparedness is wisdom. You are knowledgeable and know that great countries have the stamina and stability to overcome fragile times. (If they have a united citizenry who are not afraid of diverse opinions and can peacefully find solutions to problems.) I don't know you well at all - but your words here and other places, IMO, do not always reflect the principles of Ghandi or MLK. The words expressed by these men are very difficult to live up to, especially when one is surrounded by those who have little intention of even trying. We all can only demonstrate what we understand, usually based on our individual experiences.

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Preparedness

Most people who have lived through earthquakes in this country have been prepared for catastrophes for a long time. I would hope that those of you who have had to deal with tornados would have had your battery-operated transmitter - we have ours. Those of us who have lived through riots - also are prepared - for the 'southern' militia and/or the urban gangs. It is interesting that some people are 'preparing' because a certain person is still president. I hope my 'assumptions' are wrong - but this conversation 'stinks'. How about neighbors banding together to help each other in any situation. Fear is the enemy. Fear of being done unto as one has done ( or would like to do) unto others. Sad.

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TO ALL--Preparedness

While Steve & Terry both have excellent ideas, for other specific views & items, visit truprep.com. They have 2 stores in the Metro area and also offer classes. Some stuff ships free.

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Thanks. We found these lists to be most helpful years ago when many of our neighbors installed 'shelters' against the impending Russian bombs. Fortunately, shelters came in handy when the unpredictable earthquakes hit and/or there was a run on stores during the Cuban crisis. One must check the dates on the food items periodically - if the kids in the family haven't raided the supply for snacks. It is wisdom to be prepared - even beyond those threats of the gangs of the entitled (SL feels I will be OK.)

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DM - Your

recollections are just like mine, I can remember vividly the fear that gripped the US during the missile crisis. In retrospect, it can teach you a lot about human nature, don't you think?

These days we don't need to worry as much about external enemies but internal destruction. It will be apparent to those that experience the collapse that good neighbors disappear quickly when they are hungry. Indeed hungry people can come in all colors.

Hope you enjoy your government's future "successes".

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Your recollections are just like mine, I can remember vividly the fear that gripped the US during the missile crisis. In retrospect, it can teach you a lot about human nature, don't you think?

I was most fortunate to live on a military base during the 'crisis', That base, Larsen AFB, was scheduled for annihilation, The care and concern shown me and my dog was heartwarming. The new friends of ours offered me shelter, since my father said I should remain with my husband. ( I was newly married, with no children). I was fortunate to observe the best of human behavior. (After a few days, my husband and I were reunited). My parents always taught me to treat others as you would want to be treated. That advice paid off. I hope you have had similar experiences. My good neighbors did not disappear. In many communities throughout the US, I'm told if communities were united before this crisis, the responses were similar to mine. Ideologies, ethnicities, religion, should not separate Americans.

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Thanks to Republicans...

...we don't have the fear of 'Russian' bombs anymore, until now...God Bless Ronald Reagan.

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Hey KC

How many of today's Republicans would support Reagan policies?

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Think I'll stick around - and be prepared

From Bloomberg News

American companies are poised to put idle cash to work as demand rebounds in 2013 after spending slumped amid the slow-down in China and Europe's recession. Manufacturers project they will invest more next year than this year according to the Institute for Supply Management's semiannual survey released Tuesday. Orders for capital equipment excluding defense and aircraft rose 2.9 percent in October, the biggest increase since February, Commerce Department data showed
November 27. Apple, Starbucks and Chevron are among those announcing additional expenditure plans as economies stabilize, banks ease lending rules and some industries approach full capacity.

I'll be just fine. ( As Lindsey so appropriately informed me) As the private sector spends more and the government spends less AND MORE AMERICANS ARE PUT BACK TO WORK, it looks like the UNITED STATES will rebound and MOVE FORWARD. I guess we'll still have to worry about 'urban gangs' and 'militias'.

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Tried to ignore it but I have to ask...

Where do you get the Government spending less?

"The vast majority of economists responding to a new survey believe the federal government should maintain or increase spending levels next year — a shared opinion that stands in contrast to steep budget cuts set to take place in 2013." WSJ

You might want to look at these charts... http://www.heritage.org/federalbudget/federal-spending

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Where do you get the Government spending less?

From the same source that told me that Romney and the Republicans would lose the election.

I will ignore you from now on. LOL!

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Didn't think you would answer my question Dm...

Feel free to ignore me DM I on the hand will not ignore ignorance so... I will keep right on debating you even if it is one sided.

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apocalypse prepping

Myself and several other physics teachers here at my school have the option of doing an "engineering" project for science fair as opposed to the more traditional type of project. We always excercise this option with our physics classes, and we tell them that the "apocalypse" is upon us. Their assignement for scifair is to build a device from scrap that does something for them that they take for granted evey day. At the end we always take a few days for the kids to explain and demonstrate their projects to the other kids in a Q and A session. Every year I turn out 125 kids that know how to make water filters, store food, make fire, make electricity, passivly heat their homes, build animal and fish traps and all sorts of cool stuff. I had one group make it all the way to state on the portable hot water camp shower they made from PVC pipe and an old propane tank. My favorite project were some kids that made an aluminum smelting forge, where they melted down aluminum scrap and cast it into other shapes. The kids love it. Ive also had some groups turn in planting an farming almanacs for things that only grow in Ga, and for extra credit they made a cookbook using only local found ingredients. These kids really are better prepared than most of the adults I know.

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Renaullt & apocalypse prepping . . .

. . . outstanding job as a teacher. We need more like you. If apocalypse ever does arrive, our biggest challenge, I believe, is the very thing you are teaching, how to move backward in the chain of technology and do things that automation will no longer do for us.

Terry Garlock

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OUTSTANDING ! Congratulations! I'm sure more than 125 students have benefitted from your creative teaching!

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Terry and DM

thanks guys. it feels good to have people reinforce that what you are doing is good. The science fair is a lot of work for me but its one of my favorite things to do all year. I keep one of the projects, a toaster, in my room to show the kids what i mean when we talk about it. It runs off of a 12v car battery and used chicken wire and 4 headlight bulbs from a car as the heat source to make the toast. It works really well, we weven used it in class to make toast and the kids shared it. Takes about the same amount of time to make the toast as it does at home, except for us, the 12v battery is rechargeable. Important when there's no more grid power. I guess the standout project this year was 2 girls that made a horse drawn grist mill. they cast some round concrete blocks, built the frame and shot a video of the horse grinding oats into flour. very cool.

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Cool indeed! IMO - you're worth far more than an NFL quarterback! Keep up the good work! Thanks for sharing.

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37 critical items you must hoard...

http://soldoutaftercrisis.net/index4997.php?v=y&crm=cb

Watch the video make sure you are prepared.

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Crisis/SL

There are lists for preparedness that are not coupled with FEAR. Only 'conservative/patriot' propaganda can help us in a crisis? A fifth grade student would see through this propaganda video. . . .but thanks for sharing.

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Funny how...

...only Progressive Liberals scoff at being prepared. Don't worry DM Government will take care of you...

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SL

Please keep posting. No one who survived wars, earthquakes, tornados, ignorant hate would not understand the necessity of preparedness. I have not noticed any poster 'scoffing' at preparedness. It is the ignorant attempt to divide people along ideological beliefs that is apparent in your posts. You have shared some important information - along with your insecurities about your beliefs - and the necessity to belittle others.

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Let's see Dm..

You have called me a Racist.. a child predator...someone with no education...a simpleton.. a fear monger.. et.al.

Yet I am trying to belittle others?

Lady you don't even know the definition of belittle..

btw-Have you answered what is an "Unauthorized Militia" yet?

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What are my sources of information?

From the same source that told me that Romney and the Republicans would lose the election.

I also answered 'unauthorized militia' .

My answer to the source/sources of my information. How are your sources doing for you? Don't bother to answer.

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What in the Wide...Wide World of Sports are you talking about...

...Sources??? What are you talking about?

...and please point me to your answer on what you mean by "Unauthorized" Militias.

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