Why Fayette State Court Judge McMillian is Good

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I had the pleasure of seeing Judge McMillian after hearing a few lawyers speak quite favorably of her at a party. She proved to be very efficient and in control of her courtroom. She is obviously very smart, serious and well organized and that's what the lawyers had said. I have always doubted polticians and backscratching appointments but this appears to be a good one ! Thank you Judge McMillian---- I hope we have you for a while.

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Judge Carla McMillian

Judge Carla McMillian (current Fayette State Court Judge) and Judge Fletcher Sams (former State Court Judge) have given that court a very competent and respected tradition.

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you must have gotten off in dog court

I didn't..
a tree fell on my fence last summer...dogs got out the next day..
no compassion or understanding....

she didn't want to hear it....

counted all my tickets since the dark ages...(thought you could/should just go back a million years..she didn't)

I haven't seen a Fayette county judge yet that shows an ounce, of sense or compassion..

sorry...just can't vote for any of them..including her...

you must know her (like all the people that get "justice" in the Fayette county courts...

Horgan and his dogs under her...walked...not me..(I'm not connected)

nice try.

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ps..

people these judges DO-DO ON...do vote...

we are the taxpayers...

we don't get the breaks the criminals do..

reason?

they know we are honest, will pay our bills...AND

WE ARE A CA$H COW!

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Sugarfoot---"Getting Off in Dog Court"

Sugarfoot---"Getting Off in Dog Court"--- whoa, that's imagery I do not like.

If you had your dogs the slightest bit trained they wouldn't run loose. Ever hear of voice command? Move to Griffin if you want to let 'em run loose, We have a lease law. Judges have no choice. Or you can spend more time training your dogs.

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ptctaxpayer, Judge McMillian and Horgan's Dogs ...
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If you had your dogs the slightest bit trained they wouldn't run loose. Ever hear of voice command? Move to Griffin if you want to let 'em run loose, We have a lease law. Judges have no choice. Or you can spend more time training your dogs.

Actually ptctaxpayer, if the fence comes down or gets damaged and there is a hole big enough, the dog is getting out, regardless of how well trained your dog is. Unless of course you are standing there with them and have them under voice control or physical restraint. If you are not there with the dogs and the fence falls, gets damaged or the gate opens accidentally, the dogs are gone. Training has nothing to do with it at that point! It's a dog thing ...

As for Horgan's dogs, the dogs got out THREE times in one week. Each time you are cited for letting your dogs run loose, the penalty increases substantially. That is of course unless your name is Robert Horgan I guess.

I went down to the courthouse myself and looked this up. It was over a year ago, so my mind is a bit fuzzy, but the best I remember, Horgan's attorney was able to argue the case and get the penalty reduced to a first or second time offense. Of all the people who were cited for dogs running loose that I could find records for, Horgan got the smallest penalty of any of the offenders.

Mike

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thank you Mike

I will never have another Lab. Don't get me wrong,
they are wonderful dogs...playful and courious...but having them in an area with deer and wildlife is asking too much of them.

Yes mine do voice command and thank you for making the point..when you aren't there..who's voice do the command? their inner voice.

I thought Horgan paid nothing. Thank you for bringing that up.

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Horgan's dogs

Do you remember which Judge ruled on the Horgan dog issue?

suggarfoot
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there is only one dog judge

that is McMillan as she took Sams place

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Horgan's Dogs and My Sincere Apology
CombatCorrespondent][quote=ptctaxpayer wrote:

As for Horgan's dogs, the dogs got out THREE times in one week. Each time you are cited for letting your dogs run loose, the penalty increases substantially. That is of course unless your name is Robert Horgan I guess.

I went down to the courthouse myself and looked this up. It was over a year ago, so my mind is a bit fuzzy, but the best I remember, Horgan's attorney was able to argue the case and get the penalty reduced to a first or second time offense. Of all the people who were cited for dogs running loose that I could find records for, Horgan got the smallest penalty of any of the offenders.

Mike

In my above post:

I did state that it was over a year ago and that my mind (and memory) was a bit fuzzy on all the details.

I did say that I thought it was negotiated to being a first or second offense.

And I did say that of all the offenders, Mr. Horgan got the smallest penalty.

After reading my post here, which I do not post anonymously, Mr. Horgan emailed me to inform me that I was incorrect in my research. I am here to publicly concur with Mr. Horgan that my research was indeed incomplete and apologize for that mistake.

I would like to thank Mr. Horgan for pointing out my mistake. Without his assistance I would have never known about the information that I left out.

Details that I left out were that the three citations that Mr. Horgan received in one week were not his 1st, 2nd and 3rd offenses. They were actually his 2nd, 3rd and FOURTH offenses.

The first time he was "given a ticket by Animal Control and paid a $75 fine".

The next three times Mr. Horgan "was given three citations in one week because the dog ran out" of Mr. Horgan's yard!

Because of the second and third citations, "it was mandatory that" Mr. Horgan go to court. He was given a $250 total fine for three seperate citations.

As I understand Mr. Horgan, he paid a total of $325 for four seperate offenses!! Plus, did the dog get spayed/neutered as required?

County code calls that for:

A second offense a MINIMUM of $250.00 fine, plus court costs, plus mandatory spay/neuter of the dog.

A third offense a MINIMUM of $500.00 fine plus court costs.

A fourth or more offense is at the discretion of the judge. Obviously the judge decided to just drop the third and fourth offenses? Wouldn't you think the fourth offense would be more than what you paid for the three previous offenses?

The law as quoted from the Fayette County Animal Control website:
http://www.fayettecountyga.gov/animal_control/animal_control_laws.htm

Fines for Violations

A judge can fine any amount up to $1,000.00 and/or jail time. The first offense is at the discretion of the Judge, second and third offenses are mandatory set fines. You may be fined more but not less. Four or more offenses are at the discretion of the Judge.
Typical Fines
•First Offense: At Judge's discretion
•Second Offense: $250.00 plus court costs and the animal must be spayed or neutered if it has not already been altered, including purebred animals
•Third Offense: $500.00 plus court cost

Mike

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he still got off

a whole lot cheaper than the rest of us. A whole lot cheaper...thanks Mike

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Commissioner Horgan "he still got off"
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a whole lot cheaper than the rest of us. A whole lot cheaper...thanks Mike

Yes he did, Suggarfoot!

I thought it was only the THREE offenses and then HE brings to my attention that it was FOUR offenses and he paid the fine for only TWO offenses! Go figure!!

Mike

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again

"a tree fell on my fence last summer...dogs got out the next day.."

I keep them in at night, out in the yard during day. I didn't know the tree fell on the fence. let the dogs out n they kept going...I had no idea.

What I was speaking of anyway was the inequality of justice in the Fayette county courts. Horgan paid no fine. I'm a little person.. I did

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Why Judge Wong-McMillian is not good

- Ruled that a license issued by the health department to dispose of sewage of feces and urine IS NOT for the protection of the public.
- Fines old ladies up to $650 for a dog that got out of a fenced yard.
- Makes up non-existent law.
- Acts as attorney for the side she favors.
- Prejudices the jury.
- Refuses to allow defendants their defense.
- Rude to people who come before her court.
- Uses hypotheticals in her rulings but wont allow attorneys to do the same.
- Allow defendants to plead nolo contender so that the conviction cannot be used against them in a civil case on the same issue.
- Proclaims a witness as an expert without any foundation and when said witness was not called as an expert.
- Refuses to allow co-defendants in the same trial with same issues, thereby costing the taxpayers for two separate trials unnecessarily.
- Refuses to allow attorneys to call their own subpoenaed witnesses.
- Does not conduct fair trials.
- Was appointed, not elected without any prior experience as a judge.
- Comes up for election July 2012.
- Is receiving money from her Atlanta law firm for election.
- Made a mockery out of justice in less than 6 months after being appointed.
- Fines Fayette citizens $650 for dog while only $67 for out of County scam companies.

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Well, other than that Mrs.

Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, did you enjoy the show ?

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that one I can so agree with...I'm the little ole lady n $650.0

Is soooo correct...

"- Fines old ladies up to $650 for a dog that got out of a fenced yard."

skyspy
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Only $67 quid ???

Ok July this year time to go.

AtHomeGym
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Hey skyspy

you got some Brit backround like Frau Gym? PS: Stay off the Active!

skyspy
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Hey AtHome Gym

Yes I do. I went to school and lived in England. Loved it.

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$650 Fine

This is an illegal fine.

The maximum according to Chapter 4 of the County Code (which is the same for the municipalities when related to animal control) is $500.

A fine of $650 is illegal and void as a matter of law. She has already been corrected by one attorney before about the maximum possible fines...

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Sugarfoot & Ironin

Good for both of you. You have spoken for a lot of people about Carla McMillian. I also agree with Cal's Beverly's opinion when he said give somebody else a chance when you vote. Like McMillian's opponent STEPHEN OTT.