The 2nd Amendment in action

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A couple of alleged burglars should be counting themselves very fortunate. Recently, two men, ages 23 and 25, illegally entered a home in Fayette County. They were met by the homeowner, who was armed. The homeowner, showing great restraint, in my opinion, held the pair at gunpoint until sheriff’s deputies arrived to take them into custody. Another man, age 23, was also arrested as part of the scheme.

Perhaps the trio imagined themselves in one of those “blue states” where the Second Amendment is only a memory. Or maybe they just didn’t know that, in the state of Georgia, 400,000 citizens hold licenses to carry concealed weapons.

As of May 2009, the total troop strength of the United States Marine Corps was only 203,095 officers and enlisted personnel. So, Georgia has nearly twice as many armed citizens carrying concealed weapons as the United States has Marines.

That 400,000 figure doesn’t take into consideration the number of people who carry firearms without a valid license and it doesn’t take in to account homeowners who own pistols, rifles, or shotguns and are not required to have an ownership permit.

One does not have to register firearms in Georgia. If one is not a felon or a person specifically restricted from owning firearms, one can own a gun. Or two. Or ten.

Or as many as one wants.

All this means that, if you are a bad guy bent on mayhem, you do it in Georgia at your own very great risk. The chances are far better than winning the lottery that the home you illegally enter is protected by people who own guns. The chances are also pretty good that the intended victim of a robbery or assault is packing heat.
The amazing thing about the Fayette County attempted burglary is that a couple of bad guys were not sent to their eternal reward or to whatever awaits burglars.

Some so-called “progressives” will no doubt lament that I, a man of the cloth, approve of the Second Amendment. My understanding from scripture and from common sense is that I, as the head of the home, have a moral and ethical responsibility to protect my family from harm.

The Apostle Paul said, “But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.” (1 Timothy 5:8 KJV). I assume that “provision” includes protection from evil-doers. I cannot expect my neighbors or the police to do it.

By the time the police hear about a situation, it is usually over — their role is to investigate the crime and to try to locate and apprehend the perpetrators ... after the fact.

I know that most police cars have “to serve and to protect” painted on their patrol cars. To “serve,” yes. To “protect,” not so much as one might wish. So, if I am the only person standing between people of bad intention and my family, my role is clear. The goal is to protect the family and survive the encounter.

The men arrested in Fayette County had the misfortune to invade the home of a man determined to protect himself, his family, and his home. They were fortunate they were not killed.

[David Epps is the pastor of the Cathedral of Christ the King, 4881 Hwy. 34 E., Sharpsburg, GA 30277. Services are held Sundays at 8:30 and 10 a.m. (www.ctkcec.org). He is the bishop of the Mid-South Diocese (www.midsouthdiocese.org) and is the mission pastor of Christ the King Fellowship in Champaign, IL. He may be contacted at frepps@ctkcec.org.]

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Looks like prescription drugs and cars gotta go too.

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the two camps

There are those who try to objectively seek information to form an opinion.

Then there are those who have an inherent belief or opinion and seek data to substantiate it.

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Pastor's daughter shot in church

Read the Feb. 13, 2012 news report below to see what commonly happens with firearms:

Pastor’s daughter shot at Florida church

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. — A pastor's daughter was accidentally shot in the head at a church in St. Petersburg, police said.

The Pinellas County Sheriff's Office was called to the Grace Connection Church at about 12:24 p.m. Sunday.

Investigators told The Associated Press that Moises Zambrana was showing his gun in a small closet to another church member interested in buying a firearm. Zambrana reportedly took out the magazine of the Reuger 9mm weapon but did not know there was a bullet in the chamber.

'We're all praying for her.”

The gun went off and fired through a wall, striking 20-year-old Hannah Kelley. She was transported to Bayfront Medical Center to undergo surgery and remained in critical condition late Sunday.

WTSP quoted church member Tony Diehl as saying that there was "a big level of concern" for Kelley.

"We're all praying for her and, right now, I guess that's the best we can do," Diehl added.

Deputies said Zambrana has a permit to carry a concealed weapon. No charges have been filed.

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Boy, 3, fatally shoots 5-year-old friend

Here’s a news report that has just come out, on Christmas Eve. What’s reported below seems to happen more often than the occasional success story about a non-law-enforcement person successfully using a gun to apprehend a would-be burglar. Ask yourself if the heartache here makes up for the elation of catching a burglar.

Here’s the report:

A 3-year-old boy accidentally shot and killed a 5-year-old friend on Friday, according to reports.

NBC station KSNW reported that a 23-year-old Kansas man was arrested following the incident in Lakewood, Colorado. He faces charges of child abuse resulting in death and criminal negligence, KSNW said.

The Denver Post identified the suspect as Adam Dean Laham. It reported that he was a family friend who was staying at the apartment.

Bonnie Marin, a spokeswoman for the Lakewood Police Department, told the newspaper that she was unable to confirm whether Laham was in the home at the time of the fatal shooting, which occurred at 9:45 a.m. local time Friday.

KCNC reported that the 5-year-old had been shot in the chest. It said that Laham was the 3-year-old boy's father.

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LA707

we need to address some other dangers first

[Eugene Volokh, March 12, 2008 at 1:43pm] Trackbacks
Accidental Death Dangers for Young Children (Age 1 to 7):

A discussion with some parents led me to look into this, using the CDC's invaluable WISQARS application. I looked at accidental death dangers for young children, age 1 to 7, over the span 2001 to 2005; do not assume that this extrapolates well to older children, but run your own queries instead. Here are the results:
Cause of accidental death Rate per 100,000 children age 1 to 7
Drowning 2.0
Car accident, child passenger in car 1.3 to 2.2
Hit by car while walking 1.3
Fire (not including house fire) 1.2
House fire 1.1
Suffocation 0.6
Fall 0.2
Bicycle 0.1
Poison 0.1
"Unintentional struck by or against" 0.1
Firearm 0.1

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Thanks, SPQR

The problem with discussing gun control is that it becomes an emotional issue. There will always be a story that supports one side then another that supports the other. When something bad happens people that want to take guns away from law abiding citizens will do what LA707 just tried to do. Based on LA707's logic we should first ban cars, bicycles, and then guns. It's not until people look at the big picture that any clarity can be seen. So for that I applaud you SPQR. The one thing that I would change about gun laws though would be to include an instructional requirement. One would need to complete a gun class on how to care for and handle a gun before being granted a CCW. In the book "More guns, Less Crime" by John Lott (Harvard researcher) he states that about 85% of gun accidents happen in the homes of people that have had no formal training. Those that understand weapons and the proper way to care for them and store them are much less likely to have this happen to them.

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Timothy? Pastor Epps

I was surprised that Pastor Epps selected a quote from Timothy, which he then had to interpret to make it apropos to his argument by defining a man providing for his family to include shooting burglars. Nevertheless, I recognize the difficulty Pastor Epps must have had trying to Biblically justify shooting robbers so his interpretation of 1 Timothy 5:8 KJV may have been the best verse available.

When I started reading the article, I was not particularly aware of Paul's admonition in Timothy. I thought that Pastor Epps was going to the much more famous declarations by Jesus himself in the Sermon on the Mount, "And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also." (Luke 6: 29 KJV).

I must admit to being confused and would ask Pastor Epps to please clarify his theological position. Is he advocating that I wait until I am robbed of my cloak, and then after I give the robber my coat too, voila!, while both his hands are full then I pull out my Baby Glock 26 with the cool LaserMax Internal Laser Sight and shoot him? Or do I have to let him put the coat and cloak on and then shoot him while he's wearing my stuff, almost certainly damaging one of those "provisions" I am protecting to begin with?

It's a conundrum.

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Response Time

The average cop response time to a home invasion is 5 -8min. The average response time for .45 lead poisoning about 5 seconds ......which response time do you choose to protect you and your family???

Switzerland requires every citizen to attend 2 days of gun safety and firearms training every year. They are issued one fully automatic weapon and a handgun per household and they are commanded (yes commanded ) to be ready to protect themselves and their country. They enjoy a very low rate of violent crime in their country.

Our own GA city of Kennesaw also serves as an experiment of sorts on gun control and how armed citizens are effective in reducing the rate of violent crime. Once the city ordinance was in place that required citizens to have a gun for self protection in the home , violent crime dropped from 65 to 26 in the first year.

There is nothing wrong with being a gun free home. Be proud advertise that you are a home that is safe for criminals. I think they actually worry about which home is safer for them. So if you care about them put a sign in your front yard that lets them know you are a gun free home, and wish all criminals the best.

I will continue to give them fair warning. When you see a sign that says "This home is protected by the second amendment", take it seriously. It is a friendly warning, what happens after that is not.

Fayette County needs an ordinance similar to the city of Kennesaw and it needs to be advertised.

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Amen.

Amen.

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Pastor Epps, You Once Again

twist holy scripture to fit your personal views. Oh, my bad, the Bible actually did say 'Jesus will come again on a Harley and carrying a .45'--with the appropriate concealed carry permit of course!

Amen!

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Ninja - Read your Bible

Ninja, the Bible clearly allows for defense of self. One example is Exodus 22:2 "If a thief is caught in the act of breaking into a house and is struck and killed in the process, the person who killed the thief is not guilty of murder."

This does not apply if the thief is later found Exodus 22:3 "If the sun be risen on him, there shall be blood-guiltiness for him; he should have made full restitution: if he had nothing, he would have been sold for his theft."

In this case the thief must make restitution even to the point of being sold into slavery but not be killed. To kill him now would not be self defense. So how did the Reverend twist the holy scripture? Feel free to quote scripture to make your point.

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Bible and guns and Epps

Epps: You are wasting your time trying to find a Biblical justification for
carrying a gun and shooting someone who threatens you or your family.

I do not think Jesus suggested killing under any circumstances.

Perhaps you are confusing the Bible with NRA policy positions.

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Lion: Don't assume. Research.
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I do not think Jesus suggested killing under any circumstances.

Please refer to my earlier post. I take the time to research my position and quote scripture to back it up. I don't just say "I do not think."

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Epps: You are wasting your time trying to find a Biblical justification for
carrying a gun and shooting someone who threatens you or your family.

In Luke 22:36 Jesus instructs his followers to buy a sword. They answer that they have 2. His answer is that is enough. In Exodus 22:2 you are allowed to take the life of the thief while the crime is in progress because you can not be certain what he intends to do. You are required as the head of the household to protect your family. You can not take his life after the fact because the family in no longer in danger.

If you can quote a bible verse that says that I should go through dangerous times unarmed, leave my family unprotected, I'll be happy to read it.

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Typical yawner from Lion

I had to read through the article to be sure, but in the story that Epps sites, nobody got shot. It was a homeowner that defended his home without firing a shot and turned over suspects to the authorities. It is funny how we all pick and choose scripture to serve our purposes, not God's. In one breath you will state that "i do not think that Jesus suggested killing under any circumstances", but never would you want to admit that Jesus also states that he is the way and the gate that few would take and most would be doomed to punishment in Hell.

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