‘Conceptional path’ of west bypass 3rd phase up for vote

The final meeting of the year for the Fayette County Commission includes one more political hot potato for outgoing commissioners Eric Maxwell and Jack Smith.

County staff on Thursday will be presenting a proposed conceptual alignment for the third and final phase of the controversial West Fayetteville Bypass, which will stretch from just south of Ga. Highway 54 down to Ga. Highway 85 at Harp Road.

This will allow the county to hire a design engineer to develop a preliminary design that will be brought back to the commission at a later date along with a preliminary cost estimate, said Public Works Director Phil Mallon.

The county anticipates making potential changes to the configuration as the county proceeds with field investigations of the proposed layout, Mallon said.

The 4.3-mile project will use existing roads in many circumstances but nearly 50 percent of the road will involve new construction, Mallon said. The project also includes a replacement bridge and a new bridge.

Although this conceptual design for the road was undertaken to minimize impacts to properties “to the greatest extent possible” about four to six properties will have “significant impacts” and may need to be acquired completely, Mallon said.

“We looked at a lot of different alignments and thought this was the best balance of road efficiency in terms of future needs, impact to the environment, impact to property and cost,” Mallon said.

The commission has taken heat from a determined group of citizens over the alignment of the second phase of the bypass, which will go from Sandy Creek Road to Ga. Highway 92. Although that group, the West Fayetteville Bypass Coalition, has threatened to file a federal suit against the project, such a lawsuit has not yet been filed.

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The idiots just keep on marching off the cliff

Jack Smith and Eric Maxwell are taking the other three to their political demise. It's pretty obvious the people don't want the West Fayetteville Bypass.

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if any one is interested i started a website hopefully it will get people involved in stopping the wfb phases 2 and 3 www.stopthefayettebypass.org

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Too late, sorry.

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grub, Thanks For The Website

I truly hope this will generate some new interest. After this past Thursday's final commission meeting for the year, it is more than apparent that the remaining three commissioners intend to carry through Smith, Maxwell and Steele's plans for Fayette County. To their way of thinking, we, the people, are extremely insignificant.

It would only take about 5 minutes a day to check-out The Citizen.com to see what is going on in our community. If everyone attended only 1 commission meeting a month, they would have an inkling of how our county business is being handled. If everyone sent 1 email a month to our county commissioners our commissioners would know in no uncertain terms how we feel about their JOB PERFORMANCE.

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what traffic

Traffic, any time trough fayetteville the traffic is at the square, and it's not that bad. Heres the thing most of the people moving to FC are moving north of town where there is a congestion of bussiness, like around wal-mart, home depot and north kroger. The wfb is not going to eleaviate that, unless you want miles out your, i start a new on mon and will striaght trew town to 138 on my way into work, the wfb doesn't even help me i will be right next to it. On that note anyone in my line of work, in the area where i will work it wont benefit them either. The bottom line is they want people to come live as long as they are willing to give up everything if the county comm ofice wants progress. Maybe they concern themselves with keeping people in there homes and not running them out of them?

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Oh just remembered, i read something recently that talked about all the people coming into fayette co. But yet there are subdivisions started all over FC where they built the roads and some houses and thats it. There are 2 on redwine, 2 on sandycreek and 1 on flat creek trail, all of which would not be effected by the bypass. Yeah we really need progress obviously your in the construction industry and you just want work, and you don't at what cost!

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Nope your wrong there Grub I have no connections to the construction industry at all, but as someone who drives around Fayetteville traffic alot I would love to see the traffic go away (or atleast diverted) from the square.

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Yes the process has been explained, but the only way to get enough money to a house in fayette co. is to sell a home not just get fair market value. It's not just effecting the people who will lose land, but progress is going to continue,and next thing you know, your living next to a large shopping center. People bought homes in this area to be away from that, to own 20 acres of land and live out your life. To get what your land would even be close to what it's worth the process is you have to get a lawyer and fight, it's cost not only the one losing there but also the county is it worth all that. A home is not just bricks and stone when your 72 try moving to home that you haven't lived in for 50 years.

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the last sentence

I just laugh when I saw the last sentence. Because their law suit was going to bring the bypass to an end, right

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So a lady losing her home is funny to you? Lawsuits take time. If you want to laugh, try doing it at an appropriate time.

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I do feel for this lady, but the Bypass is progress. The way I see it a house is a house, but what makes it a home is the people in it not the house itself. If they County told me hey we're going to bulldoze my house and here is a check, I could make the next house I own a home because I would have my family and my past memories.

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WakeUp, At Last Someone Who Can Relate

Thank you for understanding. There are a lot of folks who don't understand. Maybe some of these people are just too young to understand. I guess they can't relate to someone whose husband or wife has died and they live alone. I guess they can't relate to someone who has just finished paying for their home and it will be the last home they will ever have.

However, your understanding is greatly appreciated. Take care and I hope you and your family have a wonderful Christmas.

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Ptownboy - Progress???

Why is the WFB progress? Progress for who? Instead of calling it progress, which implies improvement, just call it change. There are many people who settled here for many reasons. They have the homes they want, where they want them. What is progressive about sacrificing their homes so that those around them can gain what these homeowners already have? I am sorry roots are not important to you. But they are to many people who chose this area to establish roots. Now, you want to take that away from them so you can change what we built to what you want and you expect us to play along nicely?

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I apologize to you ladies!

I just assumed this all to be a farce to get more money. Or of despising the Commissioners.

Is their some way we can have the exact facts on this lady who is losing her home? Amount she is offered, and what she is planning to do?

If there is a real form of injustice here, some of us may be able to find out why it is happening and do something about it?
Find her a home, etc.--can't stop the road!

But without that detailed information, nothing can happen.

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Courthouse, Lady's Broken Heart

Courthouse, I'm sure you understand that I can't give you specific details about another person's life. At this stage of the process, even she doesn't have all the details. From this point, her life will be on hold just as all of us on Phase II have had to put our lives on hold for the last 2 1/2 years. We either sit quietly and wait for the bulldozers to come or we figure out ways to fight the stupid thing.

Phase II folks have been waiting and fighting the bulldozers for 2 1/2 years. We can't sell our homes because of the disclosure clause. We can't purchase another home, even if we wanted to, because up until this point the county hasn't made any offers. If they don't take our homes but they build a road 30 feet from our bedroom windows, we are stuck with the noise, traffic, destruction of our environment, and greatly reduced property values. If you lived in a $400,000 home and the county built a major thoroughfare 30 feet from your bedroom windows, what price do you think you could get for that home? I wouldn't even think about buying a $400,000 home with a thoroughfare 30 feet from the bedroom windows. If our homes were in a blighted community, it might make good sense to start over with a community. However, we are talking about bulldozing and mangling expensive homes, properties and neighborhoods. We are talking about causing well maintained neighborhoods to become blighted. How can that be good for the county?

There is a large group of folks who comment here that could care less about what happens to one individual lady or any of the rest of us for that matter. To them, a house is just a pile of wood, bricks and mortar. They couldn't feel another person's remorse over the destruction of their home or their property. To those nay saying folks, it all comes down to money. If the money offered is sufficient, that makes it okay. As I've said before, the county doesn't have enough money to pay me for my property. I couldn't even begin to put a dollars and cents price on my home and property.

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I don't think you yet understand what must be known to help!

If one has a $400,000 home they should get $400,000 for it from the state or county--or maybe more considering other details, maybe.

If the want to pay you damages only for a road "near" the home, that is another matter.

All of the bulldozing talk, etc., was considered long ago, just as it is with any new road. We elect people to vote for us---that is called a Republic, not a democracy.
However, I doubt in this case a democratic vote where the majority rules would help you! Too many want to use this road now, and many more in the future.

Trying to find that someone has made money on such deals wouldn't even stop the road---these people would simply be punished, with evidence, in court, the road would be built.

Without true details of business, not bulldozers and crying, no one can really help anyone of those who don't want the road!

If your lawyers haven't told you all this then they should have.

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Many Left Commission Meeting Crying Tonight

Once again there was not one single citizen who spoke in favor of the West Fayetteville Bypass tonight at the commission meeting. To the contrary, everyone who spoke during the Public Comment portion of the meeting pointed out that Chairman Smith and Commissioner Maxwell were voted out of office due to voter outrage against the West Bypass. The County Attorney sat with a smirk on his face. Maxwell, Frady and Smith displayed looks of complete boredom and disregard.

After the board approved the alignment for Phase III of the Bypass, there were many tears shed by homeowners. One dear lady in particular who has been helping with the fight against Phase II found out tonight that her home is in the path of Phase III. She is retired. Her home is her security. She tried to contain her tears but it was just too much to bear. She came to the meeting alone and she left alone. I wrapped my arms around her and wept with her and for her.

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Oh What A Very Tangled Web

A few days ago, we received a letter from a high powered real estate appraisers and consulting firm. They want to meet with us to discuss the issues surrounding our property and the West Fayetteville Bypass.

The letter says, "Although Fayette County is our client, we have a legal obligation to provide a fair, competent, and UNBIASED analysis of the property and the impact, if any, of the acquisition." If that is a true statement, I would really like to know why it is that the "associate" they want us to meet with has the same last name as a very well known real estate developer in Fayette County. That same real estate developer has property and family ties along Phase I of the West Fayetteville Bypass. Also, the "associate" they want us to meet with is more than likely the daughter of said real estate developer in Fayette County.

The letter further stated, "Please contact my associate.........by December 7, 2010, if you would like to schedule an appointment." Well, we didn't receive the letter until late afternoon of December 7, 2010. We most assuredly will not be contacting this firm. And, according to reliable sources, responding to this letter won't be a priority on other folks' "to do" list.

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courthouse "idoit" rules

Unless you’re just ignorant this is the last chance those 2 boneheads that got voted out to waist tax payers money, destroy land and cause as much petty problems with the ones who don’t want the wfwaste of time, gee if only more Politian’s could more petty, that’s what I want, someone in the government whose representing me to act like, because a reason to put in a road that’s not needed. These boneheads just want to spend fed money before they lose it, just like that bridge there gonna build in ptc to keep people from crossing 54 in front of wal mart, there gonna build it the same distance away from a tunnel they don’t use now, could they any smarter?

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just as i thought

I knew they would vote it in and we have people like courthouserules and mudcap to thank you 2 are not helping the cause, you just make me mad. I know who she is (the lady who cried) (for you educated people( couthouserules and mudcrap)no this road isn't effecting peoples lives, but i'm sure you don't care) and she doesn't need this is her life. Maybe it was you, you would have a different opinion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I are purdy ignoramus, isle mit.
I waist muney mahselfe! I didn't know land cud be destroy!Einstine sed no!
Much petty problems wif the wfwaste of time, i gree.
If them politians cod mor petty stid uf max patty i would also want someone whose reps me to act lak.

Becaus a reasun to put in a rode not needed und a bridge away frum the tunnel thu same distance away frum the tunnel which are not used.
They cud not any smarter! I gree.

These air grub thotes.

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food hahahaahahahaaaahh!

TYPING ERRORS SORRY I WILL BE MORE INTECLECTUAUL FOR BECAUSE INFORMAL IS NOT YOUR STYLE. A@# ITS LIKE THIS PETTY IS NOT SOME ONE I WANT REPRESENTING ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Pretty good post, grub. In fact it is a new record

A new record for misspelling and incorrect grammar ---- averaging over 1 mistake per line - even the headline! Hard to do.

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DIDO TYPICAL IM TIRED WHEN TYPE I WORK FOR A LIVING NOT SPEND ALL MY TIME WITH WORDS A@#!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM HUMAN NOT A D@#!$ MACHINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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Classy

One of yours I hope.

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CHR doesn't understand?

The reason you don't understand is that there is not a singular reason. Some of us are worried about the environmental and aesthetic impact on our properties, as well as in the ways we will or will not be compensated for the inevitable losses caused by the intrusion of this bypass to nowhere. And do not presume to issue the tired argument of sacrificing for the "greater good." I would invite you to offer up YOUR home and lifestyle to the convenience of the few who will travel this travesty of a roadway.
We purchased our current home 12 years ago primarily because of the pastoral beauty and relative isolation from housing and business developments. This atrocity of a bypass is slated to cut our property in half, effectively placing our home within only a few yards of a "major" thoroughfare. This compromises our standard of living AND the resale value of our home. But who the hell knows? We have not heard the first thing from the geniuses on the board of commissioners.

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"Singular reason when it is plural reason.
The bypasstomowhere goes from GA 85 to GA 82 I thunk. On hits way to Ga 138 and on to I-85. Hit air a way from East to West.
The travesty is not the roadway, but the selfishness.

You mean the board don't know about this road?

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"the ways we will be

"the ways we will be compensated"

I thought so!

I really didn't think it was possible to properly compensate!

They can have my home also for the right dough!

It isn't pastoral though, wouldn't pasture one cow.

Long Island New York used to be pastoral--had Indians on it.
So was Clayton County. The O'Hara (Scarlett's) plantation near Jonesboro or Fayetteville, used to be pastoral.

I'm just kidding, I do hope you get paid what it is worth but you are unlikely to get any disturbance or pastoral money.

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The Final Insult NO "PEACE ON EARTH" FOR PHASE III HOMEOWNERS

Haven't they done enough to homeowners in Fayette County? Apparently not! This is our commissioners' Christmas present to all those homeowners along Phase III. Couldn't they have just let the Phase III folks enjoy a little "Peace On Earth" with their families before slapping them with this final insult?

I feel so sorry for the Phase III homeowners. This year marks the third Christmas that Phase II families have been sitting with the axe hanging over our heads. Believe me, we know how Phase III homeowners are feeling right now.

Couldn't they have waited until after Christmas? It seems that our public officials are so bound and determined to get their parting shots in that they didn't even consider or DIDN'T CARE about the affect this would have on Phase III families. It is just one more ego driven move by people who should have never been in office in the first place. It is just proof positive that their egos are far more important than anything else.

In July, the Fayette County voters sent the commissioners a message, "We don't want the West Fayetteville Bypass." Unfortunately, the commissioners lacked the leadership to acknowledge the will of the voters.

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I doubt much will get done before Christmas!

I still do not understand if the fight to stop this road is due to taking some piece of some property, more of a few, or whether it is about how much money is to be paid!

Making it all personal about disturbing someone's Christmas seems lame! New Years Day, President's day and Easter and the fourth is also coming up. Then there is Halloween, Thanksgiving and Christmas again. My birthday is in there also.

I haven't heard much from the new electees about this!

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Courthouse, New Electees

The new electees have been in school. Hopefully, they will have learned more than Smith and Maxwell learned when they went to Commission School. Although, I don't think one would have to go to Commission School to know that if you treat the voters as if they don't matter, they will surely vote you out.

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Hurry up New Years!

This all reminds me of the months leading up to when Obama was to go in office! "Just wait until he get's in" I heard them say......"the world will be a better place" they chanted!
Well guess what? we are in more DOO DOO than we have EVER been in! And remember new commissioners.......if you don't do what WE WANT, we will vote you out too!
Yep! The times they are a changing!

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