PTC seeks payment options for big-ticket city repair items

No one ever said running a city was cheap. But the Peachtree City Council is facing some future decisions on some big-ticket items for funding.

At Thursday’s council workshop, Finance Director Paul Salvatore presented funding options for the various projects, which range from $82,000 for resurfacing the small and large pools at the Kedron Aquatic Center to $800,000 for the dredging of the northern portion of Lake Peachtree.

The dredging project, along with a similar one for the Three Ponds area, would qualify for funding through the city’s stormwater maintenance program, Salvatore said. While the combined cost of both projects is estimated at $1 million, the city will either have to raise its stormwater fees to cover the cost or find another way to fund the project, Salvatore said.

The pool resurfacing is included in the 2012 and 2013 general fund budgets to be paid for with cash, and replacement of the pools’ bubble, estimated at $250,000, will be financed over seven years with a purchase in 2012, according to city records.

Then there is a potential $4 million for expansion of the city’s cart path system and another $6 million for the addition of bridges to the cart path system. These can be financed over 15 years with a facilities bond that does not need voter approval, Salvatore said, but they also could be considered on a future countywide transportation Special Purpose Local Option Sales Tax (SPLOST), he added.

Also eligible for that financing in addition to the above projects are several improvements to the Frederick Brown Jr. Amphitheater, ranging from new gutters on the cast house and pavilion areas to the stage area roof. Altogether these are expected to cost upwards of $42,000.

“With aging infrastructure, it’s a challenge to keep up with what we have,” Salvatore said.

Another potential facilities bond project would be the landscaping enhancement on Ga. Highway 54 West from Ga. Highway 74 to the city limits, with an estimated cost of $248,000.

Also up for funding is one of council’s top priorities: a new traffic light for the city’s Baseball and Soccer Complex. Currently the city is in the process of trying to convince the Georgia Department of Transportation to allow the light to be built.

Council has expressed a desire to pay for the light with city funds to accelerate the project. The worry is that without the light, accidents at that intersection could become very serious because of the highway speeds and the need to go across four lanes of the highway once the road widening is complete, officials have said.

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Dredging of Lake Peachtree/ Three Ponds

It surely seems easy for those we elected to spend a million bucks here and a million bucks there when we all know we simply do not have the cash on hand. Issue a bond, institute a SPLOST, or raise property taxes, is always the rallying cry for those who make pets of certain projects and sadly, we have those on Council without the fortitude to simply say NO or not now.

I guess we are going to make these relatively small bodies of water navigatable since that appears to be a prime rationale for such a venture. Maybe our mayor has it listed as one of the projects for the ARC road prjects (could it be that's why we now have Mayor Steele?).

When considering the reasons for a dredging project, I cannot see spending a million bucks as a priority right now. Now if Council and each of the 255 city employees wish to cough up about $4K each to pay for it, well, wouldn't that be nice!

Otherwise, get a few john boats, buy some buckets and vaccumn pumps, and hire some teens since those currently employed by the city seem to have an aversion to work and get it done within city resources. The city already has ample dump trucks to haul sediment.

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If you or I ever run for any office here we won't get one vote from city employees---not one.

I think the lake by law, maybe, is supposed to contain so much water and it can't do that if it is full of mud!

The swimming hole cover seems to me to be a thing to forget for now. What is the traffic in winter for that pool?

I remember that same john boat suggestion was made the time the other lake was dredged! At $10 per hour 40 hours per week they would line up right now to dredge it.

You can forget about any help from the employees.

I doubt they know there is a recession.

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Raise Stormwater Fees

Note in the article above, Paul Salvatore states these fees will need to be raised for the dredging of north lake peachtree. How much will the increase to our stormwater bill be, Mr. Salvatore? Where is this project on a priority list in the Stormwater Dept.? Is this in addition to or instead of what should be ongoing, continual replacement of our oudated, corroded culverts? Or is this a project that has been added due to a request from a councilmember whose back yard abuts one of the waterways feeding this north lagoon? I think those who live here might want these answers.

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Dredging North Lagoon

Just guessing from your unusual short answer the Fayette Co Water is not responsible for this part of the Lake, given they have twice made a mess out of the main body. 1st when they were allowed to create "Goose Island" & cut the residents on the eastside off from a lake view. And the most recent when they seemed to do just a poor job. Now, why are they not responsible for the Northend. It is One lake. To give you a hint about where large amounts of the silt come from.. See if Flat Creek CC will buy reconditioned sandtrap sand. I agree something needs to be done about this situation sooner than later. Both the channels to Cherry Branch & the main Flat Creek channel going down the side of the Wyndham are turning into sacred wetlands & then the Corpse of Eng. will never let you touch them.

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Isn't this the responsibility of Fayette Co Water? Have they ever dredged the Northend? Did they place the rocks under the bridge to keep the silt from flowing south? Where did all the silt come from?

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Haddix: Dredging

Actually it isn't and it has not been dredged before.

As to where the silt, it is coming from several sources over a long time period.

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Dredging

What were they doing when the bottom was scrapped and the island was built, was that not called dredging? -GP

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Haddix: Clarification

There is the main body of Lake Peachtree on the south side of 54 and the Lagoon on the north. The Lagoon is what we are looking at and it has not be dredged before. South of 54 has been dredged before and is what is what is covered by the County in the Lake's deed restriction, due again for evaluation in 2012.

The Lagoon is heavily silted and there are significant areas of silting in the main body, along with shore erosion that is part of the agreement but has not been pursued in the past.

The formal engineering studies will tell us exactly the condition and needs when completed. Combining the studies and dredging, when determined the work must be done, should greatly reduce overall costs.

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I guess what I don't understand is why the agreement w/ county only covers the large southend. It is 1 lake w/ a bridge going across it. To help ans. MK for you. The deeper the lake the more volume it can hold. Even after dredging the Northend will still not be accessable for boating because of the rocks placed under the bridge w/out portage. I guess the rocks were placed to keep the silt on the side of the lake the county is not responsible to dredge. Even though it is 1 lake.

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Haddix: One Lake

The agreement dates back to the creation of the lake and you would have to ask Joel Cowan why. But it did have a lot to do with boating.

The Lake is a drinking water issue and both the Lagoon, Lake and Three Ponds are Stormwater issues. Not issues you can simply ignore.

We have to take a look. No choice. That will tell us if we can postpone until a better economy or not.

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Water Agreement

I agree it's not on your watch but I thought that the agreement would date to when the city sold the waterworks to the county & if it involved the Lake Peachtree it is 1 lake. I am just guessing but don't we drink as much water from the northend as the south? Not sure what waterworks has to do w/ Lake Rights (westside) & boating. The county still should not have been allowed to dam under the bridge to keep the silt on the city side (if there is such a thing). Seems they would have some culpability for the problem they helped to create.

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What is it that you don't understand about not having a million bucks to throw at this issue? Please ask yourself what is the end result that you wish to attain after dredging? What does the lagoon have to do with Three Ponds?

Please don't tell me you're looking to deepen the north end of the lake for boating.

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Yes, Lake Peachtree was dredged. Kedron has not been.

Haddix answered but it wasn't clear. (scraped)

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