Bearden’s job seeking raises questions

It has been established that Fayette County School System Superintendent Jeff Bearden is one of two finalists for the superintendent’s job with the Floyd County School System.

But when it came to the Sept. 19 executive session meeting of the Fayette County Board of Education that resulted in the board’s mutual termination agreement with Bearden, were all the board members aware of the application to Floyd County that Bearden had submitted two weeks earlier? The answer is that some were and some were not.

It was on Sept. 19 that Bearden and the Fayette school board entered into a mutual termination agreement that cited Dec. 31 as his last day of employment.

But according to documents on the Floyd County School System website, Bearden completed and submitted an application and résumé for the superintendent’s job on Sept. 4, a full two weeks before he and the Fayette school board agreed to the mutual termination. Bearden’s application was date-stamped by the Floyd County School System on Sept. 6.

So did anyone on the school board know on Sept. 19 that Bearden had completed his application for Floyd County back on Sept. 4?

According to Bearden’s application, both Fayette school board Chairman Leonard Presberg and Vice-Chairman Terri Smith knew.

On his Floyd County application Bearden said Presberg and Smith were aware of his application submittal. And on his résumé, Bearden listed Presberg, Smith, school board member Janet Smola and school system attorney Phillip Hartley as references.

But what about the other school board members? Did all on the Fayette school board know that Bearden had submitted an application in Floyd County? Board members Marion Key and Bob Todd indicated that they were not aware of the application.

Contacted Tuesday, Presberg was asked if it was his responsibility as board chair to inform the entire board during the Sept. 19 executive session that Bearden had made application for the superintendent’s job in Floyd County.

Presberg’s response was one that essentially failed to answer the question. He said that while he cannot address the specifics of what was said in the meeting, he did say it is his job as chairman “to do what is best for the school system.”

Though it had nothing to do with the question put to him, Presberg also noted that he was under the assumption that everyone on the board would understand that Bearden would be looking for another job.

School system attorney Hartley’s office was contacted Monday to get clarification on whether he gave Bearden permission to list him as a reference. He did not return the call prior to press time.

Hartley was going to be asked whether a school system attorney should insure that all board members were notified of the superintendent’s application to Floyd County. Hartley was present at the Sept. 19 meeting.

Bearden is one of two finalists in the search to fill the superintendent’s position in Rome. The Floyd County Board of Education is is expected to announce the name of the new superintendent on Nov. 5.

The terms of the mutual termination agreement with the Fayette BoE called for Bearden to receive a year’s salary, $153,000, and the funds to pay for health insurance costs for one year.

As for the surprise announcement at the Sept. 19 meeting of the Fayette school board, there has been no mention of the circumstances of the 4-1 decision in which Presberg was opposed.

“(Bearden and all members of the school board) agree not to make any oral or written communication to any person or entity that disparages, is intended to damage the reputation, or has the effect of damaging the reputation of another party. No statements will be made by any party to this agreement, including the individual members of the Board of Education, contrary to the terms of this agreement or the joint press release issued by the parties. All parties specifically agree that as of the date of the agreement, they are aware of no evidence which would required a report to any federal, state or private regulatory agency with regard to the conduct of the other,” the mutual termination agreement said.

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TGARLOCK I'LL BET YOU ARE RIGHT

I think you have hit the nail on the head with the whole Bearden scenario...which is why I am heading a recall of Dr. Bob Todd. Key cannot be recalled until June 2013. I will be counting the days.

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Don't assume Bearden is the culprit

I don't know Superintendent Jeff Bearden, but the rotten odor coming from this whole BOE episode does NOT sniff to me like it is coming from him. Rather, the malodorous source smells like a couple of BOE members who withhheld their cooperation with him on budget cuts, school closings and undermined the Superintendent's role in supervising the school mgt structure. That Bearden saw the writing on the wall and covered his hiney by offering himself elsewhere is no surprise since he appears to have abundant common sense.

Some on the BOE fought him at every turn and wanted him to go, which was made more probable with new BOE members coming aboard in Jan. Bearden could have fought it and if proved a wrongful termination probably could have claimed multiple years' salary per his contract. My sniff tells me both sides compromised with the year of termination salary, and my guess is part of the BOE's price was the confidentiality agreement to prevent all of us from hearing about the juvenile behavior on the part of SOME BOE members.

There are intentionally lots of caviots here to give me wiggle room since I can prove nothing. My only purpose is to prompt people to think a little deeper than the knee-jerk to demonize Bearden. I think it's a mistake.

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Mr. Garlock- I agree

There has to be more behind the scenes issues involved here. Issues the board felt would be better not to disclose to the public or the state. Dr. Bearden must have been prepared to make public some of these issues. It's called leverage.

I also believe that Mr. Pressburg had nothing to hide and therefore felt that his non approval vote only reinforced his stature to me.

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Mr Garlock

Sir I think you may be right,,
but
IF I remember correctly,,, Mr Bearden was "concerned" about "the children"
IF this is the case, how then is it taking +$150,000.00 without ANY effort,,,
Helps "the Children" ???

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Qual, I'm not defending Bearden, I'm . . .

. . . saying I believe the real story is likely more complex than the easy finger-pointing at Bearden.

I would also offer this as food for thought. When an executive departs with a fat golden parachute check in his pocket, that's when the public hollering usually begins. But the severance deal is usually a contractual agreement at the time of initial employment, part of the bait to attract favored candidates to accept the job.

The time to object and try to get severance sweetheart deals changed is up front before the contract is signed, not on the back end, because then the hollering is just sour grapes. Of course nothing will change anyway, because removing the golden parachute protection would mean most good candidates would not consider the job.

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lump sum?

Is it possible that the lump sum payment of severance is to avoid any potential paycuts that might come in the new year? And if that is the case does that mean that some of the people who wanted or agreed to the lump sum payment see pay cuts coming?
Bearden said he wanted to take things off the teachers "plates", My job situation has done nothing but get harder and less financially rewarding since he got hear and I can only imagine that the lost of 153,000 PLUS is not gonna help!

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The whole thing stinks!

The people who jumped on Bob Todd aren't saying much now!

After all the stupid mistakes made by Terri Smith and Janet Smola you'd have to be an idiot to reelect Terri.

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Nothing posted on the FCBOE website, check the board meeting minutes it was discussed in conjunction with retirement announcements of 3 top folks at the school system office. New person would have finance and HR under him/her. It is a consolidated new position = Deputy Superintendent Finance & HR.

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Sussberg Thanks

Thanks. I will go back and take a look. Maybe this will also help reduce central office staff.

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No, I moved here after Steve Brown was mayor of PTC.

Bad decisions by FCBOE? I think there were many, as with other government entities prior to the 2008 recession. Do they need better financial planning and financial management, Yes AND I was glad to learn they are hiring a CFO now.

Can FCBOE do better? Yes it can...and I'm happy to see some new blood on the board.

Is Terri Smith "the enemy of the state"? did she personally make all of the bad decisions? No. There were 5 on the board who made decisions with the best information they had at the time but the majority rules..

I did donate to Terri, and I posted Mary Kay on my business site. Also co-sponsored the debate so people can make infomed decisions, not what's posted here.

After the election I will tell you who I voted for.

In the end, the move to hire a CFO who has budgeting savvy who hopefully will be given the funds to purchase the required software for budgeting and financial management which will not be cheap and partially to blame for the problems will be solution....the rest is "politics".

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Sussberg, BOE CFO???

Can you explain the hire a CFO comment? Has the FCBOE posted for this position? Is there an organizational change? Are you saying that they are already making this move or that it is a move that should happen?

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A day late and dollar short? The question was how did Todd and Key vote? Why did they agree to such a large package?
4 agreed to termination and severance, 1 voted no.
Are you implying that no one on the board knew how much the servance was? That the lawyers decided that alone?
What are saying?

Oh, by the way...don't think I didn't notice that you quickly changed your post most likely to cover your tracks since you were revealing confidential information from the FCBOE executive committee meeting. Next time you decide to write so arrogantly, think twice and show some manners instead of being a pompous ass!

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Mia Culpa

Larry , Larry Mia culpa ..I fell pray to emotion and did what I often chastise others of ( this won't happen again) and made an ASSUMPTION based on knowing the character of the individuals. Much like the ASSUMPTIONS you make as to why Board members supported the details of the agreement.. Or are you privy to confidential information.. Hmmmm. I am man enough to acknowledge my mistake , but you sir are not. You as ,the ass that you are ,continually talk about contacting BOE members for info yet you yourself make accusations and assumptions without all the facts or speaking to ALL the board members. I have spoken with many teachers and administrators and BOE members and attended meetings for years.. Have you ? I feel your answer again will be. NO!
You do know what they say about ASSUMPTION..,it makes an ASS out of both YOU and ME!

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Mia Culpa

Actually, I do not know, and would like to find out which is why I ask.

No assumptions and don't fully understand why such a healthly package was paid. The board members I do know won't discuss it per the confidentiality agreement. I don't know Dr. Todd or Ms. Key.

And since this issue continues with fingerpointing at Smith, Smola and Presburg, I ask why a 4 to 1 vote with Presburg voting NO. It's logical to ask. Why are we not asking the same of all board members, why Smith, Smola and Presburg only on this blog.

I also apologize if I backed you into a corner and for being rude.

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I have not called Todd or Key BUT I find your comment very interesting.

How do you know Todd did not agree and how did you know that in the executive session arbitration rules were used.

Veritas, it appears someone in the room has broken the confidentiality agreement and you are aware of matters under that agreement.

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its called common sense

Not really... Its called common sense .Anytime lawyers are in together during a contract negotiation / dispute arbitration is used . Doesn't take a genius or a lawyer to figure that out.

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larry sussberg day late and a dollar short

As always you are a day late and a dollar short. You obviously are painfully unaware of the history behind entire FCBOE fiasco and also with the current mess .The nuances of the agreement are guided during arbitration and agreement on the whole does not mean support of each line item of the agreement.
Have you ever called Todd and or Key?

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As I mentioned, I will donate to a candidate who is bullied by a PAC.

I also co-sponsored the BOE Candidates Forum...meanwhile after the election, ask me who I voted for!

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Wow...so did u donate to Steve Brown too?

He was "bullied by a PAC" also. Pretty sure when Don Haddix comes up for re-election a year from now, he's going to get "bullied" by a PAC also.

Smith's record bullied the taxpayers, parents, students, teachers and all of our school system. If there was anyone who deserved to be bullied, it's Ms. Smith due to her voting record which is an abomination.

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NUK_1 And Bullying

Based upon your logic then equal opportunity bullying is fair game.

That being said, Dr. Todd should be bullied for voting in favor of buying land and building Rivers, and Ms. Key should be bullied for buying the land, but she changed voted not to build Rivers. So should they should be bullied here by you and not be re-elected?

My point is not to point our the voting record of Dr Todd and Ms. Keys, because I truly believe that everyone on the FCBOE was there to serve the community and do the best job possible.

It took the majority of FCBOE members to vote these purchases and school buildings. So, you are speaking only 1/5 truth.

Instead of trashing Smith, why not talk about the benefits of Mary Kay, she has a PhD in Education, understands Georgia's educational standards, etc.
You don't see Terri or Mary Kay attacking each other, they have too much dignity and class to do that to each other and we should follow that lead!

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Mr Sussberg- You and I define bullying differently

OK Mr Sussberg, we get it. You are a Smith supporter so you don't like the re hashing of her past here in a public forum. But your tactic of deflecting blame to the other members of the BOE is not valid at this time as they are not up for re election. When they are come back and you'll see plenty of re hashing of their past here also. After all these people choose to run for public office. As for your claim of bulling, that only holds water if the statements are false. If they are then call them out and clear up the record. As for me I stated below that if Ms Smith knew that Dr Bearden was already looking for another job and she voted to give him this package that she should have to explain why the taxpayers of Fayette County shouldn't sue her for the misspent funds. Does this mean I assign no blame to the others? No. In fact I feel the entire board should be up for recall unless they make the reasons for this decision public knowledge.

I understand that you can't recall for incompetence but this feels like a calculated plan to defraud the taxpayers. When someone steals from me I don't feel like a bully for calling them a thief. Did that happen here? We'll never know because they'll never tell us. So I have to make judgement calls as to how I vote based on what I do know.

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Politicians and Bullies

Here's a "fact" I don't think anyone can even think about challenging
No politician will EVER make 100% of his or her Bosses happy
Having Bullies amongst us will never end.

Here's the deal IF a person is unaware of these things they have NO business
in Public Office, (or getting out of bed for that matter) oops that may be bullying..

When I want to Bully a Politician (and I have numerous times, and will continue to do so) I tell said Politician I will no longer support them, and will use what gifts I have in opposing them. BUT I acknowledge this is a two way street, when politicians want to Bully us, (and they do every day) they pass LAW which further restricts Freedom and or deprives us of OUR processions (usually money.

So if the current Bottom of the Deck Dealing BOE wants to continue to what I perceive as Bullying, they can expect the exact same from me up to and including Verbal Bullying, which is exactly what each and every one of us in Fayette Co ought to be doing, for as far as I know we were just BULLIED out of + $150,000.00 by Public Servants who's own Charter Prohibits such action.
and YES if our DA doesn't investigate this potentially criminal activity he should be next UNTIL this is resolved and ensured to never be repeated.
Signed
Bully QuallaCherokee

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You make very valid points, but I think ALL facts should be spelled out, not 1/2 facts.
No problems with re-hashing anyone's past as long as it is the total truth.

Blaming "budgeting" and not looking at "revenues" is not 100% of the facts.
Implying that one's husband gains because he or she is a developer is not true.

As for defrauding and suing for MIS-USE of public funds, you need to sue 4 out of 5 board members who voted for the severance package and, what's worse voted for a confidentiality agreement to cover up what might have happened. Presburg voted NO.

Please, sue all 4. The confidentiality agreement is the worse part....it was to intentionally hide from the voters, using our tax dollars, what happened.

That is real mis-use of funds, hiding the facts from the voters - 4 YES/ 1 NO.
Whatever happened must have been really terrible to hide the facts from those who elected them.

Sorry, that's not deflecting, just the plain truth.

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OK you convinced me!

Valid points. I focused on Ms Smith as she is the one up for re election. But you're right all 4 have some responsibility.

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I have been in favor of voting out both Dr. Todd and Ms. Key also. Simply being the lesser evil in comparison to Lee Wright, Janet Smola, and Terri Smith doesn't make one a good or competent public servant.

Some of the criticisms leveled at Todd and Key are very accurate, especially the part about showing up at schools and trying to micromanage them and demanding this and that when the BOE isn't frankly entitled to do such. Key skipping important budget votes, Todd looking half-asleep at times and lying about school closings at public meetings, all voting to extend Bearden's contract, letter to the editor that accomplish NOTHING......bring a broom!

Yes, I'd rather have Todd and Key than Smith and Smola, but all 4 of them basically are pretty bad and then it comes down to which degree of "bad" can be the most tolerated. Just awful.

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You are so right in this

You are so right in this instance Mr. NUK!

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Nuk

Please cite specific examples of the accusations you and Mr. Sussberg make against Mrs. Key and Dr.Todd... Especially about lying about school closures..., I've been at those meetings so be very specific ;-)

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opusman: Tyrone school closing

I thought he backtracked and actually lied in that regard to previously what he had stated at BOE meetings.I am not personally supporting or against closing TE but I thought Todd attempted to definitely deceive the audience.

Key has shown up schools and demanded access to records or to just walk around.....that's a no-go. Even as a parent, we're not allowed to just show up at our children's schools and make demands for access without going through the "process" and I agree with that. That can be debated and all, but it's pretty clear to me that BOE elected officials aren't entitled to any more access or meddling in a school than anyone else, on demand.

For the record, I have voted for Todd every time he's been on the ballot, something I can say I've never done for Smith(OK, I did vote for Smola on her first run years ago) but am hoping for better next rodeo.

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Hey Nuk

Never mind all this school stuff, where in the hell were you this morning? Cy & I sat there and waited...and waited...and no one else showed. You said time & place were ok with you--what happened?

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AHG: I failed

Work happened and I am really sorry to have missed it!

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As for land and building Rivers, look at the voting records, specifically in November/December (2007) around Rivers.

Also, I would not call mine accusations either...see that's the problem. Decisions were made with the best possible information at the time, some how, the culture in Fayette has changed to attacks and accusations instead of dealing with current issues and focus on issues facing us.

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Sussberg

In as far as the land and Rivers . Todd has never denied those votes And had just been elected when those votes/ recommendations were made. Key ,if my recollection is correct ,voted no to building Rivers. I am referring to the accusations of lying, micro managing etc.

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You will need to ask someone else on those issues.

Based upon the comments and attacks centered on Ms. Smith posted here, being newly elected would not be acceptable, and blaming others for their recommendations and voting that way is not an excuse.

However,the reality is people voted based upon the best information they had available at the time...Dr. Todd included. For some reason, folks here want to hold Ms. Smith accountable for every problem as if she was the sole decision maker which is not accurate or fair.

5 members, 5 votes.

Anyway, the focus should be on the issues facing the 2 candidates running for the current seat, not Todd or attacking Smith over the past blaming her for everything under the sun.

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Ok, that's fair...but Key is up for re-election, why is no one here bullying her?
And there is clearly a smoking gun with Todd and Key on the severance package, why is no one bullying both of them?

Its all selected, as if we are trying to re-write history. Not fair!

As for Don Haddix and Steve Brown, they read the blogs and they will continue their behavior if we allow them, as long as we continue to be rude and bully others, they will too.

Is that's what we want? If not, let's play fair and debate the issues and promote the candidates, not attack them. Otherwise we can expect more of the same!

I totally respect Terri and Mary Kay for running a campaign and debate on the issues and staying out of the attacks.

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NUK_1, American Patriots, Ginga1414

I agree with your comments on the severance.

Has anyone asked Dr. Todd and Ms. Key why they agreed to such a generous severance package, especially after their public letter of displeasure with Dr. Bearden's proposed budget.

We can assume that Ms. Smith and Ms. Smola liked Dr. Bearden but it is a lot of money to pay out. Why did those 4 board members vote to give so much and Presburg voted no.

1 year severance for 2 years service is way out of proportion. Most companies give 1 month for every year of service.

Has anyone asked Dr. Todd and Ms. Key why they agreed to so much especially since they were so displeased with his performance.

Isn't that the real issue? Why so much money. Why?

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$400,000.00 for NOTHING

ok, I'm an Idiot, what a FOOL I am,,,hang on I WANT this Job!

Folks, here this/ I hearbye noteify I is avalible for this here job

Looky here, I like kids, I feel they are our future, I feel we ought to do things so they have a good future, I feel if we don't suffer a little our Childen will suffer bad things, Dude's y'all hire me and i know I can feel your pain, I know I will see the Change y'all want, and I know I can like y'all Hope things will get better .....

Looky here, I'm a white guy(but hey I'm open to becoming a Her, if I get Hired)
my folks were injuns, (Native Americans, whom where screwed over worse than the African Americans) ,,,never mind all that don't matter......
I want to Save the Children,,, Can I purdy please have dr. Beardens old job?
and Hey '' I'm sure Smith could use my assests s................

Folks yes haha hopr y'all enjoyed the Joke, BUT if ya don't attend BOE meetings or stay on top of BOE meetings as does (HAFO2) HOW ARE YOU sure
"i" didn't just get hired????

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Bearden's agreement

I have a copy of the mutual termination agreement that I tried to cut and paste but it didn’t work.

A couple of things in the agreement signed September 20 or 21 (the date is hard to read) seem odd to me. The entire salary, etc., has to be paid in a lump sum on January 1, 2013. Why wasn't the payment spread over the year?

The only person that can respond to a request for recommendation is Presberg or the Chairman at the time the request is made. Other members of the board can respond with Bearden’s assent.

As you will recall from earlier comments, Presberg and Smith were aware of Bearden’s job application on September 4th.

When the agreement was signed, Presberg, Smith, Smola and the county attorney, Phil Hartley, knew about Bearden’s job application but kept this information from board members Todd and Key.

Todd found out about the job application by reading about it online in the Rome newspaper on Wednesday, October 24, 2012. This information was withheld from Todd and Key for about six weeks. Why?

I believe it is time to think seriously about replacing the county attorney, Phil Hartley, and to vote Smith out of office November 6th.

Enough is enough!

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Bearden's agreement

I agree with americanpatriots....we have some board members who don't seem to have a realistic view of what this "mutual termination" is costing....if Bearden wanted to leave, then why didn't the Board just let him leave? Something is not right with this whole deal....wonder if we will ever know what really happened ....and when and why....

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americanpatriots: Totally agree

"Enough is enough." You don't get into this kind of financial crisis overnight and arguing with a guy like Larry Sussberg who is a campaign supporter of one of the worst public servants in the history of FC in Terri Smith is simply a waste of time. Here's a person who was right there pushing the FC school system off the cliff and she is still "proud" enough to switch parties to try and win re-election.

Get rid of Smith next week and hope that our new BOE members also push for the removal of Phil Hartley. The BOE and its attorney already showed its ineptitude and lack of understanding the law before with blatant Open Meeting Act violations a couple of years ago on school redistricting and recent NAACP award-winner Sam Sweat ignoring common sense as well as the GA Open Meeting Act when he spearheaded the process.

You cannot bring a big enough broom to get rid of the rubbish still lying around on the floor, but at least you can stop more trash being piled upon it.

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Is There A Secret Society Within the BOE and BOC?

It seems to me that if all Board of Education members, the chairman, the vice-chairman, and the superintendent are supposed to be representing the best interests of the school system and thereby Fayette citizens, then ALL BOE members are entitled to and should be apprised of the fact that our superintendent is seeking employment elsewhere!

Why was that information kept from certain BOE members?

If Mr. Presberg's statement that it is his job as chairman "to do what is best for the school system" is true, then ALL BOE members should have been apprised by the chairman that our superintendent was looking for employment somewhere else.

The buck stops with the people in the positions of leadership. In this case, that would have been Leonard Presberg, Terri Smith and Jeff Bearden.

Mr. Presberg "also noted that he was under the assumption that everyone on the board would understand that Bearden would be looking for another job." When one is in the responsible position of leadership, assumptions don't fly!

Why did Mr. Presberg assume that everyone on the board would understand that the superintendent would be looking for another job?

Obviously Mr. Presberg, Terri Smith and Jeff Bearden knew Mr. Bearden was looking for another job.

Surely Superintendent Bearden listed his references on his Sept. 4 application! References are usually informed that they have been listed on an application.

Taking into consideration that his contract had recently been renewed, why would anyone assume that he would be looking for another job?

This is just another example of the secret societies that have existed within our BOC and BOE for many, many years.

The BOC and BOE members who are left out of the loop cannot possibly fulfill their roles as representatives in an effective manner when the leaders are part of a conspiracy to exclude certain members from information that will affect the entire county.

This is just one more power trip by public officials being played out at the expense of taxpayers!

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Well reasoned, Just thinking out loud here literally, would we not be "good neighbors" to Floyd Co by giving them the ACTUAL history of their possible new
School Leader? Their paper is quite easy to access....
I 'm just thinking maybe if someone had been nice enough to inform US before he handed over nearly half a Million dollars in payroll,,,,,

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Quallacherokee, BOE/Bearden Non-Disclosure Clause

The non-disclosure clause would prevent any member of the BOE from informing Floyd Co. of our experiences, but it doesn't prevent some member of the public from doing so.

It would probably be the ethical thing to do. (Just thinking out loud)

Would the citizens of Fayette County still be obligated to pay the year's salary and benefits if Bearden gets the job in Floyd Co.? (Thinking out loud, again)

WHY did they even bother with a non-disclosure clause? The circumstances surrounding this fiasco speaks much louder than any disparaging remarks.

Some leaders, authority figures, and staff of our school system have betrayed certain BOE members and taxpayers by withholding information. They have cost our already financially struggling school system money they can't afford. They have built schools they can't fill. They have purchased excess property they haven't been able to sell.

Given the opportunity, why would we want to vote for any of those folks?

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I wouldn't stick my nose in other peoples business.

Have a feeling that Bearden may have brought to the table a couple of issues that the board did not want to become public knowledge.

Best to say goodbye with class and vote Tuesday for the board member you think will best fit our needs.

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American Patriot, Quallacherokee, and Veritas are right.

A lack of citizen involvement is what got us in this mess. Informed and involved voters are the only ones who will get us out. We have been sweeping dirty facts under the rug so long that we now have a mountain to climb.

When we don't care enough to research the issues and get to know the candidates, we make mistakes in the voting booth.

As for sticking my nose into someone else's business...We are talking about public officials. If my money helps pay someone a salary and they don't do a satisfactory job, then their business is my business. It is also your business and every other taxpayer's business.

Supposedly, school systems are bound by ethics to notify another potential school system employer when a teacher or other employee has abused or molested a child. However, it has happened that a school system failed to notify potential employers in abuse or molestation cases. The results were heartbreaking for parents and life altering for their children. Employers require references for a reason. In this case, the public was not listed as references, but Fayette citizens are the ones who have been paying the salary.

Parents and children are facing alterations to their lifestyles due to decisions made by some of our school officials. Those alterations can't compare to the destruction of abuse, but our school system's financial situation is to the point where schools will have to be closed. There is no way of getting around it.

Schools will have to be closed in order to save our school system. We might think it will kill us, but it won't. Hopefully, we will all rally as a community and become stronger.

Hopefully, we will be wiser in the voting booth on Nov. 6.

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I agree except one point

Yes, we all have to get involved and understand the facts to make wise choices. We also have to make our choices heard. Personally, I call or email my opinions to board members.

Rivers was built on speculation. We all know that. We had about 400 kids move into the district when their parents were working on construction projects in the area. Many lived in mobile homes. People reacted and built a school, never thinking about the nomadic life these people live. When the economy sank, these people moved out to find work. Now we have an empty school.

Yes, all of us will suffer next year. We will loss a lot. Parapros for the younger grades, students moving to different schools, loss of teachers, larger class size, ect... Our leaders, the ones we elected failed us. To blame Bearden alone is hogwash as the board approved the budgets.

As an adult, our job is to protect our children. Mine, yours, my neighbors. If I see something not right and a child could or is getting hurt, I intervene. Every rational person would.

What I do disagree on is that we don't know the facts on Dr. Bearden. Most likely never will due to the silence clause. If we don't know the facts than we are just spreading rumors. We don't teach our kids to spread rumors do we? It's best to leave the research of Dr. Bearden to the Floyd County schools. They may have better leaders that dig deeper than a shiny resume.

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You sir are Correct in the above post
Rumors are ill conceived and ultimately evil
Since I was the first to "think out loud" about contacting Floyd Co...
I NEED to respond to your post to Ginga1414.
I have not, can not and will not support the idea of spreading rumors (intentionally) we all sometimes forward crap....

I simply suggest (thinking out loud) that as good concerned neighbors
we supply Floyd Co citizens with KNOWN FACTS, such as a Superintendent
coming to the table with "NON DISCLOSURE" limits, Things such as the behind the CLOSED door separation pay package, Failure to SUPERINTEND the BOE, His failure to recognize Mobile Home Transient Families (as you so aptly pointed out), His failure to Communicate with parents of the upcoming Hard decisions of potential school closings.
Sir, I only suggest Floyd Co citizens should be given FACTS not watered down buddy system politics, that Fayette County to this day suffers from
of course this idea/suggestion is just me "thinking out loud"

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Failure to SUPERINTEND the BOE, His failure to recognize Mobile Home Transient Families (as you so aptly pointed out), His

Please correct an assumption of mine. I thought the decision to build/ expand school buildings was made during a time of growth in Fayette County. I agree, it would have been wisdom (Monday quarterbacking) to use portables on existing sites.

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Busting Bubbles (DM)

News media exist on BAD news, the old adage If it bleeds it leads is about the only truth one can find in the media. So we all heard about people and business that lost when the Housing Bubble popped. What was not reported is the Thousands of people and businesses that due to understanding real world mnemonics saw the storm coming and prepared, these businesses didn't have to lay folks off, they didn't have to downsize, in fact they found more success.
These are people that don't "run the the credit card past the limit" in bountiful times, they live below their means, they save for the rainy days.
There are school systems all over the US that prepared in this manner, Fayette County was not one. Fayette Co and it's 10 cent millionaire life-style finally caught up with them (us). What's done is done, the trick now is to NOT repeat this God awful model. Why not look to private schools and how they are managed, seems to me Woodward, Landmark, Marist and others weathered the storm just fine. Oh and don't talk to me about how much money they have it's NOT the dollar amount, it HOW the dollars are budgeted. Something Bearden and our BOE seem to have no concept of

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Thank you for your recognition, I haven't or at least have tried not to engage in "how to raise a child" discussions as I elected years ago to not procreate
I do however get to privilege to pay for others that did choose to download an Adult in training, for that alone I DO get a say in how $$$ are spent, and especially when I see my $$$ being absurdly wasted. I have NEVER said in a BOE meeting "text book A over Text Book B should be used, NOT MY business, but when it come to BUYING textbook A or B THAT is my business.
Sure I have an opinion about parents too busy to be involved with BOE meetings, and acknowledge there are other means of communication as HAFo2 suggest. However, if I may, I think even THAT is a cop out, who other than the Politician will ever see these thoughts, verses an open floor with a amplified mic, "your" words may be such to influence other parents to the point a "movement" gets started, Its really in these Meetings that differening opinions and points can be given power, and if you're not there You are shooting blanks regardless of how many letters to the editor and letters to the BOE one writes
Ginga1414 Thank YOU for your words of intelligence and passion
QC

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Your correct, a face and mouth in front of a microphone MAY be more effective. But, private conversations and emails, aren't chicken liver either.

I chose to have children, and my wife and I raise them. Not a nanny, babysitter, grandparent, we do. We also try to expose them to things that the schools can't. Sports, religion, scouts, museums, plays, concerts, ect.. We don't just drop them off either. We coach, we listen in on their music practice, we are active in dens and troops. We are engaged.

Both kids may not get straight A's but they try hard, are not the disruptive kids in class, ect.. They smile, laugh, have lots of friends over the house, do chores (sometimes with a fight,lol) and they are well rounded.

Sorry if I dont pass your litmus test in going to meetings. Maybe I need to tell my kids they have to drop an activity so one of us parents can be seen and heard. I will think about it.

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WHOA HAFo2

WHOA SIR !!!!
NO WAY NO HOW would I EVER assume you and you wife are wrong in child rearing

Sir my poor writing skills must of caused this confusion as I in NO WAY
was suggesting YOU "do things wrong" simply because my OPINION of when where and how to communicate with the BOE..

You're correct letters aint Chicken Liver, (btw Thanks, I know what I want for dinner tonight)

BUT B U T Sir you will have to admit (only because I believe you to be an honest man) that Fayette Co (and the Country) are full of "Nanny" parents
In this I was attempting to point out JUST Voting is not good enough, there HAS TO be further involvement with government, maybe even to the point that THAT involvement is a "part time" job.

Bottom Line Husband and Father of 2 , IF you believe I was critical of your parenting skills/methods, I apologize, as that is/was NEVER my intention

QC

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No offense taken

We are on the same page on most things.

I agree, our community has too many nanny households. Too many people live above their means. I would like us to go back to the 50's when fathers worked and mothers stayed at home raising the kids. I know I will get negative feedback on that statement.

My wife is not only better looking than me, but she is smarter and has 2 batchelor degrees. When we were discussing marriage we both agreed that one of us would be home for the kids. I lost/won the coin flip, lol.

We have neighbors who have to coordinate work schedules, hire nannys, keep their kids from attending activities because they think money and a new leased car every two years is more important than raising their kids.

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Thanks HAFO2

You last paragraph describes that which I intended to paint, oh and on this
all their money aside THESE people are as big a Leach on "social" funds as are
"Section 8 12 kids 1 momma homes)

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Husband and father

How about flip that scenario.. You do realize that the actions of Bearden could also have caused SACs and ethics issues. Non-disclosure would also protect Bearden's employment viablity.

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My belief is

That both sides have something to hide. Therefore, they both agreed to the non-disclosure. Saves on legal fees, which would go over and above the settlement.

If you don't remember our previous Supt had issues with the board too.

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So you wouldn't want to know that the future School Board leader being considered for the job, is,,,
Why then even bother with a resume'?
Like I said Wouldn't we of Fayette Co been better off if Bearden's previous
post had given us a FULL disclosure? Might of saved us a wasted near half million dollars ..
but hey after the Charter School Amendment passes this is mostly a Moot point anyway, as will be paying for a BOE
as schools will in the near future be under the SOLE control of "Atlanta and DC"
(mostly DC) "The charter school question is not a choice between improving
public schools or NOT improving public schools. It's a choice
between (a) voter control/parental control over public schools/
or (b) federal control over public schools. Although charter
schools may waive state and local control, they CANNOT waive
federal control." Sue Ella Deadwyler

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BOE and due diligence

We elect our board to due perform all the due diligence prior to hiring someone. If they don't dig deeper than the surface of a resume, then they didn't do their jobs. If they don't do their jobs, we don't re-elect.

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"Their Jobs"

What about OUR jobs? Citizenship is WAY more advanced than just voting someone in and turning over OUR responsibility to "them" if that is all we are doing then we really have NO "right" to complain.

I get really disgusted with my fellow country/county folks when this seems to be their approach.

"I'll have the kid(s) but don't want the responsibility to care for them, So I know let's hire a Nanny, be it an education nanny, a feeding time nanny, a babysitting nanny, or whatever nanny". This mentality is EXACTLY why we live in a nanny state. WE ASKED for it, or rather some of us did, a few of us understand EACH individual is responsible for ourselves and those we choose to procreate.

Just saying oh THEY didn't do THEIR jobs, is a cop out; and well; guess what NEITHER DID WE.

OUR job is actually MORE critical than "theirs" when "they" screw up all they loose is a job (maybe) when WE screw up we loose our children's future.
Think about that next time Dancing With the Stars interferes with BOE meeting night, which btw ought to be SRO meetings
I promise you this, there's not a politician alive that would oppose 75% of the voters as long as there is a possibility of re-election.

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I don't disagree with you at all

I have been to a few BOE meetings but mostly study the issues on line. When I want to make a point, I call or write to the board direct. I don't need to blog everything I communicate to our leaders.

Myself, I work long hours downtown in a very competitive field. My wife is a stay at home mother. When I come home each evening, I take one of the two kids to their many activities: sports teams, scouts, religious studies, music, library, ect... Not enough time in the day to get as involved as I would like, but as you said, my wife and I take care of our kids, and that's how it should be.

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Was this a criminal act?

On the one hand I'd say yes Presburg should have made sure that the entire school board knew that the Super was already job hunting before voting on this measure. But on the other hand he was the lone dissenting vote which is what I'd expect an honorable person to do if aware of this information. This brings us to the other person that was aware and voted to give away all of this money to a Super that it now seems was trying to rob the people of Fayette, Terri Smith. I'd love to hear her explain why we (the citizens of Fayette) shouldn't sue her to reclaim these misspent funds.

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Let it go, just like the Haddix fiasco, there's no hope to recover from the acts of incompetent public officials. Besides, the school system has much bigger issues to worry about.

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To just let this go would be

To just let this go would be a terrible mistake. Our school system is in serious trouble because we have let way to much go. There needs to be a full investigation in to who knew what prior to "Close Door Meeting." It could be the agreement FCBOE Members Dr. Bearden and School Attorney signed off on my now be invalid if in fact two FCBOE Members had no prior knowledge to Dr. Bearden Sept 4th job application?

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I have to agree, this needs serious looking into,
I have a serious problem with the idea that a Taxpayer Based
Employee(s) using SOLELY tax collected monies do a "non disclosure" deal.
Dead skunks in July don't smell this bad

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