Nov. 9 F’ville ceremony to unveil memorial to war dead

Workers lower into place the memorial to the military veterans from all wars who were born and raised in Fayette County and died during their service. The site is at Patriots Park on Redwine Road in Fayetteville. The unveiling of the new memorial is Nov. 9. Photo/Ben Nelms.

This year’s Veterans Day observance at Patriot Park in Fayetteville will be something special. The Nov. 9 ceremony will include the unveiling of the Fayette County Veterans Memorial which will feature monument walls listing the names of soldiers who fought in numerous wars and who were born, raised and died as residents of Fayette County.

The memorial will feature a polished, black granite obelisk noting the five branches of the service and will be flanked on each side with a monument wall, also of polished black granite. The obelisk will rise approximately 10 feet off the ground while the two walls will be 4 feet by 7 feet and positioned on a 1-foot base.

“What makes this memorial different is that each of these soldiers were born and raised and died as a resident of Fayette County,” said Fayetteville Councilman Larry Dell.

One side of one of the walls will commemorate the 379 Confederate soldiers who died during the War Between the States while the other side will list the names of Fayette residents died in World War I and World War II, Dell said.

On the second wall, one side will list the names of Fayette residents who died in Korea and Vietnam while the other side will list those who died in Afghanistan and Iraq.

“So many people haven’t recognized our veterans, especially those who served in Vietnam,” Dell said.

As for the wall’s design, Dell said “It’s polished so that, along with seeing the names, you can see yourself,” noting that the memorial design represents the immeasurable loss of life and its reflection in our lives.

The goal for the memorial, said Dell, is to create a place where people will come to honor those who died in past wars, to reflect on the humanity of the after-effects of those wars and to admire the soldiers who had the courage to risk their lives to save others.

“This is something we need to do because we need to honor our vets, especially those who paid the ultimate price,” Dell said. “A vet is someone who, at some point in time, raised a hand and took an oath to protect the United States. That price of protecting us is up to and including giving his life. One reason I’m passionate about this project is because two of the names on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington, D.C. were men who took my place.”

The Fayette County Veterans Memorial is located on the grounds of Patriot Park at Redwine Road and Old Senoia Road. The ceremony will be held on Nov. 9 at 11 a.m. Relatives or other family members of those listed on the wall are encouraged to attend.

The Veterans Memorial at Patriot Park had its genesis nearly six years ago as a project of Leadership Fayette. The memorial is a city project, though there are no funds allocated for it. The total project cost, including in-kind donations, is approximately $100,000.

Platinum sponsors contributing $5,000 in cash or in-kind donations for the Fayette County Veterans Memorial included Fayetteville Rotary Club, Integrated Science and Engineering, Allan Vigil Ford (Fayetteville and Morrow), Attina’s Music, Fairburn Ready-Mix, Brent Scarbrough and Company, Presley Electric and Ed Gullett. Gold sponsors included Comcast, Eric Maxwell, sons of Confederate Veterans McLaws Camp, Fayette County Civitan Club and Larry Bailey Concrete Supply.

Dell said additional tax-deductible donations for the non-profit, whether cash or in-kind, are still needed for portions of the project that need to be completed and for ongoing maintenance. For more information contact Larry Dell at 404-379-8825 or at larrydell@bellsouth.net.

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Several points

Several points to make here.

1. The memorial is not just about Civil War vets.
2. Taxpayers are not footing the bill. (I do agree with MLC that the water department should not be donating to anything)
3. Why do so many preach tolarence toward so many others but not southerners?

We won't re-discuss the Civil War because most that don't already know why it was really fought won't believe anything beyond the PC version anyway. Bottom line is if you don't like the memorial, don't visit it. This reminds me of an old saying. I'll revise it just a little.

If a conservative doesn't like a memorial he doesn't visit it.
If a liberal doesn't like it he doesn't want it built.( Or at least wants it toned down)

Nobody has the right to take anyones else's heritage from them.

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Descendants of slaves

Many are returning 'home' to their roots. The Southern Tradition - other than segregation and slavery - is not to be denigrated. There is a politeness, gentility, and grace to the 'southern' way of life. I for one am grateful to the whites and blacks who stood together and fought for Civil Rights in this country - so that I could return to 'the south' and enjoy its positive aspects. American soldiers are respected in the foreign cemetaries- and other cemetaries throughout the world. Confederate soldiers are respected throughout the south - as they should be (and southern families honor their Union relatives)- even though the South lost. How is it offensive honoring Civil War soldiers in 2013? They gave their lives for a cause - a lost cause. We are the United States composed of a diverse populace. One nation under God.

General statements about 'conservatives' and 'liberals'. . . don't hold much water in todays society.

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Who's more conservative than G35 Dude?

Who? I'm about as conservative as they come. Why, my picture is that of Ronald Reagan.

I also was raised up in the segregated South, knew at the time that it was wrong, and remember students from a whitetrash school across my town driving around with Confederate flags and protesting school integration.

The simple fact is that people who should have been defending Southern heritage let their symbols get hijacked by racists and the KKK. You can't roll that or its message back. I would also be against a memorial in the park if placed there by the Black Pather Party, even if the county didn't fund it. The park should be appropriate for everyone.

The image of the plague shows larger engravings and much more prominent attention to Southern heritage than to other war dead, and it shows a likeness of the SCV logo (although I can't read it in the picture), which is as out of place as having a Ford logo on the plague because the dealership donated money to the cause.

Celebrating heritage is okay. Flaunting in the face of others who see it differently is not.

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I'm sorry that you're so offended by the south that you claim to have grown up in and choose to continue to live in. The men that fought in the Civil War were just as honorable and dedicated as those that fought in the revolution. Just think if England had won that war George Washington and company would be called traitors in the history books. And no one would want a plaque dedicated to him, Jefferson et al in their parks. Just chill and accept the fact that there are others with a differing opinion and they also deserve to have their places and plaques as long as it is done in a non violent way.

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G35 -- I once agreed with you.

When I tell you that I attended all white public schools in a major city, then it's pretty clear that I grew up in the South. It's not just a claim.

I'm not offended by the South, unless you mainly correlate racism and the South as one and the same, in which case you shouldn't be proud of it. I don't correlate the two, because of many changes. But, when it comes to certain symbols, such as the Confederate battle flag and, possibly, a disproportionately large display for Civil War deaths by the SCV, racism and appropriateness are legitimate issues to raise.

Your analogy with George Washington has nothing to do what I was saying.

I have no problem with people of different positions -- at least, no more than you have expressed about yourself. And, there was a time when I would have agreed with you on this, but that was before I listened to what others with different views had to say. On my point, I was simply stating an opinion backed by decades of experiences and re-evaluation of previously going-along with what had been accepted for over one-hundred years.

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Woody-It's not about agreeing

The point is not whether or not we agree. The point, at least as far as I'm concerned, is whether or not one group because of their opinions can or should be able to control/regulate the world around them because they feel that their stance is superior to that of others. In your posts you go to great lenghts to condemn the south and it's heritage. You try very hard to make it sound as though all that the south stands for is racist. If I felt that way I would move. But thats just me.

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G35 - I think I know you

You're so sensitive and take things wrong...are you really my wife posing as someone else?

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LOL I sure hope not!!!!

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No mention of religion in anything to do with any type or form

of governement because it might offend someone--almost anything to do with the South and the Civil War has to be done away with or hidden because it might offend someone. Our forefathers who founded this country based it on religion; many ancestors of southerners fought in the Civil War--should they be forgotten and never recognized? Get over it people this is part of history--you may be able to hide it or try to rewrite it but you can't really change the past. Political correctness is a big part of why this country is going to hell in a handbasket. Should all monuments of northern generals etc be removed because they might offend southerners who have relocated there? Different you say? I say not!

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Religion?

"Our forefathers who founded this country based it on religion"

Please provide evidence for this claim. There is much evidence to the contrary, like our Constitution and the Treaty of Tripoli, signed by John Adams.

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1s0k - Religion

I think he misspoke, should have been, "Our forefathers who founded this country based on God's gifts to mankind".

It's common for people to confuse the two concepts because of their religious bias.

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Well said

Proud to be Southern. Sorry if that offends anyone.

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Veteran's Memorial and FC Water system

Interesting comments by Woody on this.

Here's another interesting item on this. In the FC Water Committee Action Agenda from October 23rd is listed "Fayette County Veteran's Memorial-Water Line Donation" "No Action Taken". I hope that means "Sorry, no can do".

I am curious as to why the Water System would be involved in this as a "donation" at all.

In light of the current issues, I would suggest a really thorough and convincing explanation to the ratepayers before anyone should make a "donation" anywhere. I cannot think of any convincing explanation right now.

Seems to me that our water system is going to need every penny it takes in (and more) just to keep the water clean and flowing out of our faucets for the forseeable future. Donating anything is not where we are at right now, in the big scheme of things, me thinks.

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Tone Down the Civil War Message

Patriot Park will have a war memorial with more prominent attention and size to honor Southern deaths in the Civil War than space to honor American soldiers who died in the World Wars of the 20th century?!

The Sons of Confederate Veterans (SCV), which has donated and pushed for exactly what is seen in the picture, has some decent members claiming that they honor heritage, some who like to play soldier, and others who want to get away from the wives for a weekend...but, there are many members who are out-and-out racists and who use the SCV platform and who wave the Confederate battle flag to flaunt racist attitudes. That racist message, while not necessarily intended by everyone, is what will be recognized in the memorial by realistic people. That racist message creates a divide that will repel people from a park that should be shared by all, and that racist message has no place besides the names of those who died for freedom.

Major monuments to the deaths of Confederate soldiers were popular a hundred years ago in courthouse squares. Their time is the past. Today, the implicit negative message that divides should be toned down.

It's time for Fayette County to enter the 21st century, to join the rest of the nation, and to accept that the message of racists, who hijacked Southern symbols, has no place in our parks. It's time to relegate memorials to the dead of a divided nation and from another era to a plague of less prominent size and to an appropriate location, other than that revealed in the picture.

The memorial plague displayed should be removed or modified. It's the right thing to do.

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You have a good point Woody

I was born in Georgia. My family is southern. I have ancestors who fought in the Civil war for the State of Mississippi, including one who fought in Johnson's army from Chicamauga to Kennesaw Mountain where he was wounded by a miniball. We still have his letters that he wrote during the war. But that was 149 years ago. It was for the best that the south lost the war. Neither the Union nor the Confederacy would have been very strong had they continued to be divided. Slavery was wrong and needed to end. The war accomplished that, even if, as southerners were taught, the war was about states rights. Whatever, the end result was that slavery ended sooner rather than later. Imagine the outcome of the 20th century wars if there had not been one United States, but instead, two weaker countries that had difficulty cooperating.

I was very surprised upon moving to Fayette County and seeing all of the Confederate flags in cemetaries, despite my southern heritage. It is fine to remember confederate veterans, but perhaps as Woody says it should be toned down a bit. The Civil War was a sad event in our nation's history, but it is for the best that our country remained intact and we should celebrate that.

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