Redistricting on 2-month hold

40 parents, students complain to Fayette BoE, while committee awaits ‘property deal’

Redrawing Fayette County schools’ attendance zones has been put on hold, pending an unspecified property deal now being negotiated, according to Superintendent Jeff Bearden.

The delay left about 300 parents and students in attendance at the Oct. 15 meeting of the Board of Education without immediate answers.

Bearden’s recommendation for a delay of a “couple of months” followed an executive session near the beginning of the Board of Education meeting Monday night.

But the board’s approval of the recommendation did not dissuade more than 40 of the nearly 300 parents and students, largely from Peachtree City, from speaking in public comments and objecting to the potential of having children attend middle and high schools outside the city.

Bearden said that due to a potential property deal that had surfaced and might impact redistricting he was recommending that the work of the redistricting committee be put on hold.

Bearden said it could take a couple of months to determine if the property deal would be finalized. Bearden kept his remarks brief and did not identify the property under consideration.

There was no public explanation of how the property deal could affect drawing new attendance zone lines.

The school board unanimously approved the recommendation to have the redistricting committee “take time out from redistricting until it can be determined if the transaction will take place.” If the transaction takes place it could impact current redistricting efforts, Bearden said, adding that if it does not go through, the committee can pick up where it left off.

“It’s not prudent to continue to work until we know the outcome,” said Bearden.

The board decision also puts the work of the repurposing committee on hold.

The redistricting committee was formed during the summer to develop and recommend student attendance boundaries based on the two options identified by the school board. Option 1 included the potential closure of Hood Avenue Primary and Fayetteville Intermediate along with Fayette Middle, while option 2 dealt with the potential closure of Brooks and Tyrone elementary and Fayette Middle schools.

There has been some public speculation that schools closed in Fayetteville could be repurposed for other educational or even commercial uses. The property deal might fit into that scenario.

Also at the meeting, redistricting committee chair Mike Smith and repurposing committee chair Chris Horton gave brief reports on the current status of committee efforts.

The vote to put the work of the redistricting committee on hold notwithstanding, the large overflow audience at the meeting included a significant presence of Peachtree City parents and students. More than 40 signed up to speak during public comments.

Some said they had heard that the proposed redistricting plans included transferring some students to other middle and high schools other than Booth Middle and McIntosh High. Their comments included their opposition to those potential decisions.

Nearly all spoke with heartfelt concern over the idea of having their children be required to leave the community that they hold in high regard. The school students speaking during public comments echoed that sentiment.

Using a different approach, one speaker said she believed that requiring students to attend Flat Rock Middle School or Sandy Creek High School near Tyrone would “marginalize our children” while another said that transferring students to different schools would put them in a high-risk category for future psychological problems.

Though Monday night’s audience was a much larger group than those in previous meetings where parents and children from Tyrone and Brooks attended to plead their case for keeping their schools open, the sentiment and the rationale was essentially the same. Many understand the fiscal plight facing the school board and some acknowledged that action must be taken, but no one wanted their school to close or their students to be moved.

Despite being put on hold, the work of the redistricting committee is expected to resume once the outcome of the property transaction has been determined. The work parameters of the redistricting committee include:

• Serving as a voluntary advisory committee that will work with the superintendent and his staff creating attendance boundaries options for board consideration.

• Looking at the entire system during the redistricting process and make recommended changes that the committee believes will lead to greater efficiencies.

• Working to protect the integrity of neighborhoods and subdivisions.

• Using the “cluster” model in attempt to develop logical feeder patterns.

• Keeping in mind the distance students may have to travel to get to and from school.

The efforts of the repurposing committee is also expected to resume and will involve looking at other potential uses for the schools up for potential closure under options 1 and 2.

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Most likely, I am about to become a "Broken Record" and ignored by most here.

I live my life based on a set of Morals taught to me by my parents and our religion (Christian, Jesus is the Only Son of God died for my sins, arose from the dead and awaits my arrival at God's Throne)
BUT ,,,and this is a HUGE but (bigger than Oprah's) (come on THAT was funny)

Anyway, I live my Earthly Life, day in and day out by a Human "Bible" that declares a fellow Human is welcome to NOT believe my way and that he or she has the EXACT same Human rights on Earth that I do ( we only get different treatment AFTER life is over) US CONSTITUTION

I think Catholics are silly for their beliefs, and muslims, and Jews, and Hindus and Budhist, and ,,,,,, Wiccans for that matter, BUT
and this is another Oprah's Butt, ALL, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE THE SAME EXACT HUMAN RIGHTS AS I DO,, and the second I use government to MAKE my belief LAW,,, then I am a "sinner" against Humans, (God's Creation)

Freedom is tuff, Liberty is hard, and as I see it, those opposed to Individual Freedom, and Individual Liberty are BOTH lazy and Chicken Sh!ts
as they FEAR another Human may have a GIFT they don't .......
and even more sinful as they WILL use the Police Power of Government to accomplish the ends rather than do the deed them self,,,Sinful, Shameful, and Flat Out NOT Constitutionally American

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I guess the answer is 'no' to the email. Thanks. :-)

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I just tried again ,,,,
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I replied IN DEPTH ....
and hit reply ,,,,
Stand by and let me try it again ,,,

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I forgot to mention that The Fayette Career & Tech Academy can also offer dual enrollment option at the location too.

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Charter Schools on Nov 6th Ballot

Just took my first look at the Nov 6th ballot, anyone for or against care to explain the charter school amendment to me? Thanks -GP

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GP and Charter School

Amendment sounds great.... Right?
It's to create using tax dollars a new agency consisting of 3 appointees by Gov Deal, 2 by Lt. Gov and 2 by Speaker of House.
If State of GA Dept of Ed does not approve a charter school proposed by a local school board which is currently where the power lies, then this Agency can step in and approve it and it will be under this new agency and school board.
Funding comes from the State on a per student basis to the new charter school for each student enrolled.

The amendment as you see it, was funded by out of state interests at about 97%.

As you can tell, I am opposed, not to charter schools themselves but how this amendment came to be, that it is deceiving and creates a new state agency....

Just my opinion, I'm sure others will and should comment.
Thanks

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Funded 97% by out of state interests?

The powers that be must know this would be voted down by an informed public, otherwise there would be no reason for deceit!

As of right now,I am voting against it for that reason alone! -GP

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The NAACP

is also encouraging voters to vote against this amendment. Interesting.

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Despite the NAACP, I am also against it

I'm amazed I have anything in common with a racialist organization like the NAACP, but on this issue, I agree with them. Usually, it's a no-brainer that a pathetic group of self-serving, whiny race-baiting losers like the NAACP are wrong about everything, but not this time.

Giving the state of GA further control over local schools is a terrible idea. This state SUCKS in education and giving the state the right to take away some more money for whatever they can dream up like charter schools isn't going to end well for people in public schools or the taxpayers.

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Sussman & AP

Students should not have to qualify for AP. That's something done in Fayette to restrict the number of students who can take AP which is a violation of College Board rules. AP is part of College Board who also administers the SAT.

It is a high expense for the school system to train teachers to run AP classes x 5 high schools.

Solution = Fayette Career & Tech Academy.
In addition to consolidating all Tech programs at this academy and expanding it since you save money by having it in 1 location. You could possibly have less teachers teaching each subject then expand what is offered. The same can be done with AP classes.

Unfortunately, in Fayette County, dark forces are mounting a campaign against the Fayette Career & Tech Academy because they believe its an added expense to the school

A financial analysis needs to done comparing these programs cost x 5 high schools vs the cost in 1 location plus the transportation cost to move the students to the Academy.

Make sense?

Unfortunately, our dark forces are already mounting their anti campaign before the facts are gathered!
Sad... But true!

If you are concerned, watch the blogs and the FCBOE members to see who has already prejudged this Academy before Ms Leanard finishes her analysis..

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AP Classes

My child was in "gifted" classes in Elementary, Middle and the first 2 years of HS. Come time for Jr yr of HS, she was not accepted into AP English."Not enough space for everyone" at Starrs Mill. So she had a miserable year, separated from her peers.(Yes, there ARE tracks,regardless of what they tell you,if only based on schedules). Thank God for the Dual Enrollment program. Her senior year, she took college Freshman English at Clayton State and got an "A", saving us tuition for a class the next year, and more importantly restoring her self-esteem. I only wish I'd known about this program earlier. I just resent that the system into which I pay tax dollars made her feel "less than"..

The point of this post is not to brag on my child, nor to be a schill for Clayton State, but rather to say that no child in Fayette County should be denied an AP class because of space limitations; but if it does happen, please know there are other options.

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Teacher can't write

I know that this has been discussed before but I still have trouble accepting that renault314 is actually teaching children when their use of, at least, written English is so awful. What do they teach that doesn't use English?

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Show some respect, people

I've seen over the years a few letters to newspapers from you, Mr. Pfeifer, and they were rambling missives and not really what I would call "effective" or "concise." Maybe you need to drink a can of Shut Up before you start harping on someone else. You sound like Don Haddix at times with your long-winded diatribes.

Here's a teacher in our schools and on the front line telling it how they see from their perspective and what people want to howl about is "OH MY GOD, SOMEONE DIDN'T USE PROPER GRAMMAR OR PUNCTUATION ON THE INTERNETZ!" Why not debate their points instead of acting like a 3rd grader because this teacher has some very relevant thoughts that may need discussing instead of giving absolute crap and disrespect to this person?

Everyone here is quick to make a point of how lousy parents are "in other places" and how they always claim "My little angel would never do that, the principal is WRONG! He's being treated unfairly by the school!" You want to know where that comes from? The parents, and it doesn't matter the color of their skin or socioeconomic status. It's alive and breeding right in FC when some of you want to attack a teacher and take out your frustrations on them instead of having an adult discussion.

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Maybe you need to drink a can of Shut Up before you start harping on someone else.

Ok, that's my new favorite line! I'll need to borrow that one from time to time. You need to trademark this one real fast....lol

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Peter- get off your high horse dude

Yes, I am a teacher in this county. But if it makes you feel any better, I dont teach english. My skillset lies elsewhere, however I do ensure than anything written I provide to the kids is done so professionally and accurately.. Every now and then I get a pinhead who cant take apart my arguments and so tries to discredit me with ad hominem attacks like citicizing my spelling and grammar. not saying this is you, but youre like the millionth person on here to mention my horrible spelling and grammar. So, ill tell you the same thing i say to them. So what. this is a blog/forum and it aint exactly the new york times, you know what I mean? For me writing on this site is one step above texting, and i dont check my punctuation there either. Ive got better things to do than spell check my opinion piece about this, that and the other. Like picking my nose. The truth is i just want to share my ideas and cant be bothered to check spelling and grammar in this forum. Its not that i dont know how, I somehow managed to get an "A" on my 50 pg masters thesis but that was a painful, laborious task for me and i just dont care to put that much effort into something five people will read and maybe one will care about. Criticize my ideas or point out the flaws in my arguments if you can find them. but if all youve got is that i misspelled a few words or didnt check my subject/verb agreement, or that i dont capitalize a lot (you know, the things that have nothing to do with ideas) then youre the weak one here. Not me.

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Peter and Teachers,

Sir, I too question writings of folks that cliam to be taechers , when the words and or grammar and punchuation aint perfect,

But then I have to ask myself, is THIS "teacher" claiming to be an English teacher? cuz if not then spelling and grammar become a whole lot less important, It's my understanding that Mr Einstein, couldn't even tie his shoes, and his English Spelling was horrific,,, but I sure would not have minded studying Physics and Math from him.

I can even remember another guy, He quit school in the 6th Grade, later joined the US Navy, fought with distinction in WW2, was later hired by Delta Airlines as a Machinist Mechanic and could barely sign his name in English,,,
(my Dad) but his Math skills were second to none, as was his ability to see a design and MAKE it happen..

Personally, I'd pay EXTRA for a child to LEARN from folks like my dad than some guy that has NO world experience other than a brief stint as a 'Community Organizer" with Harvard and Columbia suspect Diplomas

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We need real choice - not choice between government schools

The comments here fuss and fume about comparisons between schools and their supposed different offerings - and want to force the administration and government to fix things. That is like pushing a cooked noodle - good luck.

What we need is the ability to take our student's funding and go to the school we select for our child. We monitor quality for our child and the schools that deliver prosper while the schools that don't will wither and thankfully die.

There is nor racial card to be played here. It is a level playing field. You get schools to perform by giving them your business. When they don't you remove your business.

It works. Government schools don't - the world over.

And the current question to put an amendment in place to allow the state to charter schools is just another sham. We don't need more distant control over our children's education. Creating schools removed from local control is no improvement. But the effectiveness of current charter schools shows us why a move toward full choice is our only hope for real change and improvement.

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It works. Government schools don't - the world over.

And what meritorious private school did you attend? I'm sure parents in Fayette County want to know!!

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citizen al - what are you talking about?
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Government schools don't - the world over.

I personally had a student graduate last year that got accepted to Harvard, and another that got accepted to West Point and countless dozens that got accepted to other perfectly good local schools, like UGA and Tech. When you say Gov't schools dont work, buy what metric exactly do you mean they don't work? Do you mean Macintosh? Stars Mill? The rest of FayCo schools, are they all failures? A lot of parents on this site have spent a boatload of money to live here so that their kids can attending these dismal failures of schools. Guess the jokes on them. I'd love to hear what makes our schools "not work."
Or, perhaps, its whether or not the parents care that determines success, not if the school is gov't run or not.

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I started thinking. Why would the BOE put the redistricting on hold?

The paper reported this as a property deal. So, lets think a little. Selling land would not affect students. Selling the Admin Bldg most likely wouldnt affect students. The only thing left is if the BOE was considering the sale of an existing school. Possible purchasers could be a college or university opening a satellite campus, a Charter School, or private school. This is my attempt to rationalize the issue.

The other issue as I see it is that no one wants to make a decision on redistricting. Dr. Bearden is leaving and we have new board members coming aboard next year. The outgoing board members don't want to make the decision because they will have to face the ramifications of angry parents and neighbors afterwards.

I still don't understand the rationale behind this delay. We need to continue working on the redistricting plan. If the property deal does not go thru then we have a plan in place and we are prepared. If it does go through, then we modify the plan.

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Another issue

While the redistricting is on a 2 month hold, Fayette County parents now need to take an interest in what is next on the agenda. The BOE is now having discussions on letting out of county kids come into our schools for a fee. They will vote on it next month. They must be grasping at straws in desperation to come up with some more money. This is a horrible idea for many reasons. The major problem is that they need to get the HUNDREDS of out of county kids that are here illegally, out first. If the way this has been handled in the past is any indication, it will be a disaster. Additionally, it costs us approximately $8000 a year to educate a student. We get $4000 from the state. Simple math says if they paid $4000 per student, we would break even. I would love to see the figure the BOE comes up with for this enrollment fee.Then you have to consider the additional administrative costs to keep up with this program and to collect the money and kick out the ones who do not pay. BOE says they will collect money up front, but guess what? That is what they said about making the out of county kids pay when they get caught and now they allow them a payment plan. Then there are the ones who do not pay and threaten lawsuits when they are billed. I could go on and on. Please pay attention to this important issue and stay involved with it.

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Out of county kids in Fayette

Why doesn't the board put it to a vote - whether we want out of county kids in the schools or not.......I bet I can guess the way the vote would go.

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You have smoked out the Dem's conspiracy at BOE, Missy

Charging the out of county kids a tuition is a great idea for the Dems who remain in charge of our school system. Yes, Dems are actually in charge, as surprising as that is. How? We all know that all atheists are Dems, as are all union members (aka teachers), administrators (former union members) and of course everyone from Maine. All Dems.
Yes, we all know the teachers union does not have collective bargaining rights, we have heard that before. So here is the plan -

Coming up with an annual fee for out of county students is a brilliant plan. Set a fee of say, $6,000 (don't forget we'll get $4k from the state per student) and develop a procedure to process the new students into our system and also have a procedure that gets the hundreds of currently-enrolled stealth students out of the closet, so to speak. In the traditional Dem's way of doing things, when developing a policy, they will develop exceptions and waivers for the "less-fortunate" and this will be tuition waiver for kids of union members, kids who have single parents and kids who have parents below a certain income level. This way they can say we are a county of inclusion, but we have a tuition schedule that they will publicize and quietly ignore if it suits their purpose.

The beauty of this Dem plan is it also diverts students who might be otherwise home-schooled and parents who might be tempted to start a charter school. A twofer putdown of sensible Republican ideas.

Now you know why Terri Smith decided to run as a Democrat. Lot's of votes from the teachers who like this plan.

And another thought about how Dems run things, maybe they instructed Ms. Arlene Law to overlook the Clayton and Fulton students attending our schools because they could collect $4,000 per student from the state. In the Dem's world, this is found money. The fact that it costs twice that to educate those kids is an operational detail that is handled by someone else. Seems plausible.

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RWM - cmon man, you know better than that

Im a teacher and wouldnt be a DEM with a gun to my head. Neith would most of the ones I know. I beleive you are right than in other states that have teachers unions they propbably are mostly dems but not here man. We are all about some individual responsibility. and that pretty much flies in the face of unions. You harp on this union thing a lot, but its such a non-issue here, i dont know why you do.
I also dont see the downside of charging tuition to out of county students to come here. We can charge whatever we want, and cherry pick only the ones we want. fayette county schools might seem like an excellent and more affordable option to private school from people who dont want their kids to deal with the mess that is ClayCo. and any parent willing to pony up, probably has decent kids. Id teach em. The state contribution is icing on the cake. If it costs twice as much to educate kids, charge twice as much. in advance. no refunds. if they pay, wheres the harm? if they dont, the kids dont come to our system, so no harm done. Whats the big deal. You struck me as a "no options off the table" kind of guy but seem really down on this for some reason. I also dont see how this diverts kids from homeschool or charter schools. That is the parents choice, no matter what fayette BOE does. What youre saying doesnt make sense.

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You cannot cherry pick diddly squat. The NAACP will be all over you.

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RKS- the NAACP will be all over us?

more than they already are I'm sure is what you mean. But even so, thats fine. The vast majority of students in ClayCo (for example) are minority. If we open our schools up to them and only admit the ones we want on academic merit (say....3.2 GPA and up) there will be plenty of black kids who get into our schools. Thats fine by me. Give me the smart kids to teach. I'll do it all day long, whatever their color. If the NAACP gets up to their old tricks (you're right, they probably will) then we can just stop the program. When the ClayCo kids have to go back to their crappy ClayCo schools they will see the difference in how good they had it here. They will be ticked that they cant continue to go to FayCo schools because of a nonsense, nuisance lawsuit filed by the NAACP (is their another kind?)and they will know who to blame. As for us, we will have several years worth of tuition in the bank by then, we get to avoid the lawsuit by discontinuing the policy, and the kids realize how racist, irrelevant and bad for black America the NAACP really is. Sorry, but I don't see the downside here.

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I certainly do know better than that, renault

Hope you don't actually drive one of those sissy French cars.

Anyhow, that was all just parody about how the Democrat mind actually works and how it's mindless followers do not (work, that is).

Tip O'Neill said all politics were local and they are. Let's starting cleaning up this stupid, liberal Democrat crap right away. Oust Obama and his slugs (yes DM, I mean Valerie and Eric as well) and then let's clean up the Fayette County School mess. Don't let people like Smola, Smith and Pressburg have power over us. Look what they do - not what they say. Then maybe Haddix and Brown next year. Voter apathy allows all the people mentioned above to get into elected office. Let's turn that around. Please?

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RWM & voter apathy

c'mon bobby, get it right--Presberg was chosen unanimously by the BOE, including Key & Todd) when there was a conservative, African American female (Bonnie Willis)available! No voter apathy involved. There is hope. The newly elected members show promise from attitude, education, and experience perspectives. Time will tell if we voters made the right choices. I'm confident we'll see lots of change.

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RWM - sorry, that was too subtle for me.

thought you were being serious. Still learing peoples personailties on here. So, just to be clear, you do or do not support charging tuition to allow out of county students here?

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I support charging tuition

especially starting with those out of county students we are giving a free ride to now. Then fill the empty schools with students who have parents that care enough about their education to actually pay for it. But as I said in a reply to Missy - run it like a business, a business that Mitt Romney would run. Not a business that Obama and his handler, Valerie Jarrett would run - like GM or Solyndra. No handouts, no freebies.

DM, to answer your question, she is the biggest problem for Obama's campaign. She is the one insisting on clinging to the rich must pay more nonsense and the class warfare that is so old and tiresome. When the dust settles and the books are written by the unemployed Obama staffers, Ms. Jarrett will emerge as the wicked witch of the White House and the major reason for Obama's defeat. You know he's not taking the blame himself. My cousin's kid is a researcher for a fairly famous author and she is working with some insiders collecting some pretty juicy stuff. The 2-day delay on the BinLaden turkey shoot is the best one she has talked about. And there's clearly a lot more she isn't talking about.

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RWM & Filling up empty schools

fine, where will the money come from to pay teachers/administrators? Surely they can't charge enough tuition to do that and we sure don't have any extra $$ in the budget to support more staff.

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Beats me, but that was one stipulation in the article =

specifically that the new students don't cause the school system additional expenses. Seems unrealistic, but we have out best and brightest working on it.
Maybe they think they can fill classroom vacancies one at a time - like hiring an individual for a job. That road is filled with potholes, however. First time you choose a white kid over a minority, there will be a lawyer sitting there the next day waiting to see the person in charge.

In fact, now that I think about the alleged racist component of this, some dopey lawyer will make a discrimination case out of accepting a student who can afford to pay tuition over an equally-qualified one who can't afford the tuition. Impossible, you say? No, I can see that happening - especially if race becomes part of it.

You know, everytime we try to be so politically correct and sooooo understanding and tolerant, we are taking 2 steps backward for every 1 step forward. That's not my idea of progress.

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First time you choose a white kid over a minority, there will be a lawyer sitting there the next day waiting to see the person in charge.

Interesting. The first article in The Citizen that I remember was about a 'white' family who lived in another county and was being investigated regarding illegally enrolling their child in a Fayette County school. You are really sensitive about this 'race' thing here in Fayette County. This county has made a great deal of progress in race relations since the 50's and 60's. You appear to be one of the citizens here who have a real problem with this progress. Everyone who has invested in Fayette County is hoping that our schools maintain and improve their academic offerings. 16% of the population in Fayette County are considered 'minority'. 20% of the businesses in Fayette County are owned by 'minorities'. Minorities are contributing positively to FC. In this economic crunch, I believe that all citizens who have invested economically and personally in this county want solutions that will maintain and/or improve the academic offerings to the children in this county. (And this (school system) will help to maintain or improve the property values in Fayette County)

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Some Republicans have really done a bang up job in electing great leaders since Reagan. Thanks! Really can't blame the mess we're in on Democrats here in FC.
(What is this deal you have with Valerie?). By way, she was sitting next to the First Lady at the first debate. Did you recognize her?

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RWM - cmon man, you know better than that

duplicate

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We all know that all atheists are Dems, as are all union members (aka teachers), administrators (former union members) and of course everyone from Maine. All Dems.

This intelligent statement was made at 12:42p.m. Was the author drunk, or pathetically misinformed?

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This intelligent statement was made at 12:42p.m. Was the author drunk, or pathetically misinformed?

12:42 PM does seem rather early to be pathetically misinformed.

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Stoned and DM..You two don't get Satire do you...

....Obviously not.

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No Steve, they don't get satire, irony or parody. They Dems

Dems actually take themselves seriously. Joe Biden is not concerned about how he appeared the other night -- he's out doing it again. You can't really embarrass or upset these people. They are shameless. Let's just vote them out and move the country along. Sound like a plan to you?

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Let's just vote them out and move the country along.

You and Florida did that - Bush won! And then we lost the surplus that was left by 'those Dems' - and went into the worse recession since the 30's. Are you planning to move the country 'back to the good 'ole days'? Maybe you are. The 'middle class' will just tighten up the spending and ride it out until the next election. Trickle-down economics just doesn't work. Banks have held on to the money that they were supposed to release to qualified business owners and home owners; politics has played havoc with the much needed nation building needed right here at home; - so if the Republicans win - we'll see just how much the so-called right will have to move to the moderate center to save our country.

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Let's look at a few facts rather than political talking/mud flinging points
The "voters and hanging chad, AND the whole mess" was so blown out of LAW
it was the ELECTORS of Florida that picked Bush, PER Constitutional Law
bottom line how "we" vote for the President REALLY DOESN'T MATTER
NEXT...
Even if we dig up Reagan, Jefferson, Lincoln and clone them into a Super President, until Dodd Frank is removed Banks CAN NOT loan money based on the BANKS criteria, the applicant must meet an near impossible standard imposed by idiot career politicians, (whom btw back in the late 80's were part of the "personal checking account bounced check crowd")
At no time in Human History has Government ever created individual success, wealth, or independence,these things happen IN SPITE of Government, we can look at a document that was 500 years old when the Constitution was being penned for this universal truth.
I strongly suggest we as Americans should prior to Nov 6th Read for ourselves Dodd Frank, Obamacare, and the US Constitution oh and then re-read a 49 year old Speech given on the steps of the Lincoln memorial,
a speech which employs the listener to judge others on Character, and not the color of their skin,,this would be the "I have a Dream" speech, which btw is far different than someone else's Dreams of his father....

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Let’s look at the Electoral College

From the 50 states, there are 538 votes

As of today, some feel that 277 of those votes are in Obamas camp; 206 in Romney’s. That leaves 100 electoral votes unallocated. It takes 270 electoral votes to win.

The toss up states are:

Nevada; Colorado; Iowa; Wisconsin; Ohio; Virginia; North Carolina; Florida.

As of today, (and these polls change daily, if not hourly!) Iowa, Ohio, and Wisconsin are leaning Obama) [The reason for the 277]

This is a close, close race.

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it was the ELECTORS of Florida that picked Bush,

Really? I guess the counting of the chads was for entertainment only? What directs the 'electors' to vote?

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until Dodd Frank is removed Banks CAN NOT loan money based on the BANKS criteria, the applicant must meet an near impossible standard imposed by idiot career politicians, (whom btw back in the late 80's were part of the "personal checking account bounced check crowd")

No argument here - but there is a pregnant silence among ALL politicians about Dodd Frank - while election campaign money is coming in.

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Read for ourselves Dodd Frank, Obamacare, and the US Constitution oh and then re-read a 49 year old Speech given on the steps of the Lincoln memorial,

Excellent idea - without the interpretation of CNN, MSNBC, Fox News or Rush!

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As to why all the whoopla over the "counting chad" IMHO this existed because Americans actually believe THEIR vote counts for something in Presidential Elections and because most Americans (per my experience) have NO IDEA what is written in the (THEIR) US Constitution and even fewer understand what is written in their State Constitutions.

It WAS the Electors in Florida that gave us The Shrub, NOT the SCOTUS,
but get ABC, CNN, MSNBC to admit that or for that matter FOX

WE, (American Citizens) ARE an "entertainment society" unless it's broadcast, "we" as a country pay it no attention, (there's a film from back in the 90's in which M Douglas play's the President, and imo THE quote of the whole film is "FDR doesn't get elected with tv's in every home" ,,oh how true

This whole argument over Charter Schools being unconstitutional, YES IT IS , right up until the Voters of Georgia approve the NEW Amendment and then whala It's Constitutional just like Having a Beer was Unconstitutional AND ILLEGAL for 13 years

While it's oh so easy to sit back and blame schools, and teachers for Americans being so DUMB about THEIR country, it Blame rest with Parents and Individuals,,,, but hey, being intellectuality lazy is far more easy,,,so is the complaining....(and THIS comment board PROVES this "theory" beyond any doubt)

Miss DM, Prejudices, Bigotry, and thankfully to a lesser extent Racism does play apart in the stupidity of America, but even these excuses only go so far. I mean there's NO WAY NO HOW, can I believe a family of a different color would WANT slow economic growth, declining employment opportunities
prisons filled with Non Violent Non Human Rights depriving individuals.
IF that family has a grasp on WHAT America's Promise is (US Constitution)
but we, Reds, Blacks, Whites, Yellows, and Rainbows get so caught up with our OWN prejudices WE make this an issue when it's NOT,,, It's a FREEDOM, LIBERTY, RESPONSIBILITY issue...
ok getting off my High Horse...lol (actually he's only 15:2hh)

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LOL! Stay on the soap box!!

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I mean there's NO WAY NO HOW, can I believe a family of a different color would WANT slow economic growth, declining employment opportunities

When more Americans realize this - then they won't be able to separate Americans by 'color/class/religion,etc.' There are citizens of every hue who take FREEDOM, LIBERTY and the necessity for accepting RESPONSIBILITY seriously. Many of those citizens live here in Fayette County and are IMHO an example as to how humans with diverse ideas for solving problems can live peacefully together. After I found out the progress that had been made in this community -(note: I said 'progress' - not complete healing) I am more convinced than ever that as we learn to respect and understand our differences, we will be on the road to judging character rather than those other 'labels' that Americans feel are so important.

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You preach it brother - we with you

Facts are indeed useful, possibly more useful than name-calling or even parody. You are so right about Dodd Frank and since neither will be back for an encore, 2013 would be a great time to repeal it. Might be that the Senate is within reach this time - on the coattails of Romney. When was the last time a Republican President had majorities in both the House and Senate? Don't stroke out DM, just asking.

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Is the "land deal" the stupid PTC annexation?

We won't know the new redistricting deal until after Teri Smith's election. Isn't that all you need to know.

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Dr. Bearden and Board:

Are you kidding? Are you really going to keep us in suspense of what will happen with our school system another few months? This talk has been going on for far too long and it would be nice to know something at some point so that we can plan for our future....more importantly, our children's future.

The schools have always made Fayette County a great and desirable place to live. I did not grow up here, but always thought of Fayette County as "the place to live." I'm not so sure I feel the same any longer and the state of the school system is one of the reasons (among others).

We moved here in 2006 specifically for the school system. Our daughter completed kindergarten in another county and started 1st grade at East Fayette. After her first year, East Fayette closed and she was moved to Inman. We have no complaints with that. Inman was a good school in our opinion and she did well there. This means that she attended three different schools just to complete elementary school.

With all the talk of Fayette Middle closing down we decided to be proactive and asked under GA law that she have permission to attend Whitewater middle for the start of 6th grade (this is certainly where she will be districted when Fayette middle closes). We didn't want her changing schools more than once for middle school. She was denied. Whitewater middle is only operating at approximately 70 something % capacity currently so we were upset with the decision not to allow more kids into the school (including our daughter, obviously). Now, without a doubt, she will attend two different middle schools to finish out her middle level education. That puts her tally at five different schools so far.

If the county leaves her alone in high school for all four years, she will have attended five different Fayette County schools (and six total schools) just to finish her education in our county....all while living in the same house the entire time! This was not our idea of the school system or education we wanted to give our daughter when we moved here.

We wanted our daughter in Fayette County schools to get a quality education and experience school the way we did. We went to elementary, middle, and high school with most of the same kids throughout our education. We had pride in our mascots, teams, schools, etc. because that is where "we belonged." I'm not worried that she'll have "psychological" issue as others have said from switching schools, but she doesn't have a sense of community or pride in her schools and it's only natural for a child to feel nervous about a new school every few years.

We have younger children who still have to enter the school system. We're contemplating selling our home and moving further south to an area where Friday night football is the life of the town and most of the kids know each other from kindergarten to 12th grade, all while getting a quality education. Fayette County used to be this way and we thought that's what we were getting.

The lack of information, planning, and consideration for the parents and children is really getting old. Townhall meetings are useless if they really don't say anything new. So far, everything that's been said is everything we've known all along.

Please please please take the time to make some decisions that will inform the community.

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The real problem

The real problem is that the schools do not offer the same opportunities. The school board needs to fix this problem. All students in fayette county should have the same opportunities. Until that happens parents are going to want their children to go to the school that is going to give their children the most opportunities. You really can't blame them for that. The people to blame are the ones who haven't made sure the schools are the same. The question that the school board needs to be asked is : Why doesn't Sandy Creek have the things that Mcintosh does and how are you going to go about making sure they do?

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Harry- the real problem

is that you think every school can be identical. AP class offerings are based in part by the number of kids asking for them, and in part by the number of people qualified to teach AP. here at my school we have collapsed AP classes with qualifed teachers becasue there were not the state mandated 15 students to fill the class. We have also had sections collapse because we did not have enough AP teachers to teach all the sections. How many people in this county do you think are qualifed to teach AP Psyche? or Physics? or Econ? You cant tell a teacher they have to go to another school just to even things out. Even if you did, the classes might collapse for other reasons anyway. Do you realize that MHS is the oldest HS in the county? SMHS facilities are much newer, so are WHS. WHS has all the WiFi stuff, not PTC schools. There is always going to be a subtle difference between schools. Your thinly veiled insinuation that PTC kids get all the good stuff is just dumb and uninformed.

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Do you realize that MHS is the oldest HS in the county?

Really? How long did you say you've been in this county?

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Hutch- yeah, really

24 years next month. The NEW FCHS building opened in the late 90's....oops. forgot about that huh?

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Ummm You do know that Fayette Co, existed prior to 1982 when McIntosh was opened,,in fact back in 1977 BEFORE there was a red light at 54/74 there was a Fayette Co High School, and FWIW, the land off "walt banks rd" (little un-named dirt path) in 1977 was really good squirrel hunting land ,, and the deer weren't bad either......

Dang just gotta love Transplants that think THEY are the reason there's a Fayette County........

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Hutch and Quall

Im not a transplant. I actually graduated from Fayette Co. myself. And I am fully aware that FCHS was the first high school opened in the county. BUT, as you point out, MHS was opened in '82, and FCHS moved to its NEW BUILDING in what? '99? WHICH WOULD MAKE MHS THE OLDEST HS IN THE COUNTY! I wrote that as a response to the guy who was implying that PTC kids get preferential treatment and get the best of everything. I was trying to point out that they in fact have the oldest HS school building. I even specifically stated that other areas in the county have newer "facilities." Sorry if I was too subtle for you guys, but the fact that FCHS was technically founded first is irrelevant to this conversation if they DONT USE THEIR ORIGINAL BUILDINGS ANYMORE. Sorry for the all caps but you guys didnt seem to pick up on the point the first time around. You two were in such a hurry to point out how wrong I am you apparently didnt actually read the comment and ended up making yourselves look silly.

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Isn't it amazing what the addition of one word can do to the clarity of a sentence? "I was trying to point out that they in fact have the oldest HS school building." What you call subtle I call vague. Lord help your students.

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Hutch- the difference between you and my students

is that if there is something that is "vague" or subtle, they ask questions for clarification. You, on the other hand, dont ask questions, you just acuse me of being wrong in your most sarcastic, smarta$$ manner. If you had read more carefully, you would see that I specifically stated that other school had newer facilities. What is vague about that exactly? Or perhaps you were just so quick to make fun of me you didnt bother to read it.

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Believe me, as some others here can attest to, this was far from my most sarcastic or smart ass manner. The fact is, as you wrote it, you were wrong. Like I said, amazing how one word affects the clarity of a sentence. I will admit though, I didn't know you were so sensitive.

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Renault and Hutch off point

Hutch you are both correct in your facts and Renault you did leave yourself open with your ambiguous statements. But if you want to get off the main point and nitpick. Renault you are incorrect in that ALL of Fayette and PTC high schools and middle schools have the “WIFI stuff” and Booth ,In PTC, was one of the pilot schools.

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Veritas - thanks for the correction

about the WiFi stuff. But I still dont see how saying that MHS is the oldest HS when I was specifically talking about facilities is an ambiguous statement. Even so, you somehow manage to correct someone without coming off like a pompous, know-it-all snot. I dont think its too much that i expect the same from Hutch. Even if I was wrong (I wasnt) there are certain ways you talk to people you dont know. He needs to learn that.

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For Pete's sake, get over yourself. You're the one getting all personal with the insults. But you win, I'd hate to tangle with anyone as right as you. God, I'm positively shaking in my boots.

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hutch- so you can dish it out....

I suppose youre going to tell me that questioning my ability as a teacher for daring to suggest that MHS is the oldest high school in the county isint a personal insult? Whatever dude. You started this ball rolling. Now youre trying to back out with your faux mea culpa and make it look like I'm the bad guy for hurling insults. The funny thing is, all you do is find tiny little nitpicky things that you think can make the other guy look bad and then jump on it. Is that your schtick? None of the posts you put up demonstrated that I was wrong, you just hinted once that I was vague. Say what you like, the people reading this thread can decide for themselves. How about arguing aginst ideas for a change, istead of just trying ways to make yourself big by making others look foolish?

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Hutch - Im sure you can be an enormous jerk

but thats really nothing to brag about. I'm not sensitive, I just dont appreciate it when you tell me I'm wrong when I'm not, and then when I point out that I was not wrong, that you just didnt bother to read carefully, you question my professional abilities. I said, quite clearly, that the students at MHS have the oldest high school in the county. Now, if you misinterpreted that in your zeal to point out how wrong I was, thats your fault, not mine. But, the truth is, that statement is true. No one was talking about when the schools were founded. My statement was about the quality of facilities, which I also clearly stated. Additionaly, the comment that I was responding too was about quality of facilities. You just didnt bother to read before you snapped off your remark half-cocked, trying to make me look dumb and show everyone else how smart you are. But, you failed. Quall made the same mistake, but has since realized ha jumped the gun. Now, if you're one of those people who cant admit that they made a mistake, thats cool. But it sounds like you're the one who's sensitive, not me.

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Let's move on

Renault314 - The last sentence of your response to me was:

"Your thinly veiled insinuation that PTC kids get all the good stuff is just dumb and uninformed."

So basically you called me dumb. However I decided to ignore it and instead explain my original comment. How about we all try to just explain our opinions and not insult each other in the process?

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Ok your teaching abilities are in no way questionable : )

As only an Ahole TEACHER would be that picky !! lol : )

oh and I aint apologizing for the emphasizing caps....
and as to looking sily, Dude, ,,,good guess

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subtle differences maybe however...

I'm a PTC parent so I'm not saying that only PTC gets all the good stuff. So tell me at your school what does a student do if they want to take AP classes that aren't offered there? Are they supposed to just live with it or do they have to somehow go to another High School to attend that class? Years ago it may not have been a big deal. However now most colleges want students that have taken a number of AP classes and the number they want keeps going up.

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Harry & Differences

A student who wants to and is qualified to take AP classes and they're not offered in their school doesn't have to do anything. That's why they have parents--to make decisions and make things happen for them that are out of their control! Many yrs ago, for a number of reasons, I had to make a decision to move my Daughter out of FC High and got that permission from the BOE to allow her to attend McIntosh, as long as I was responsible for transporting. She responded by doing well academically and was elected Homecoming Queen at McIntosh her first yr there! She went on to graduate and in the summer after graduation, attended Cambridge U. (UK) for 2 English courses, with the summer program of Flagler College in St Augustine, Fl. But WE have to be involved in making decisions and doing things that the kids can't.

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ATHomeGym - that's awesome for your Daughter

I wish all students parents were as involved. It would be great if the BOE would allow all students to change their high school if they are qualified for AP classes and those classes weren't offered at the high school they attend. Hopefully they do because that is one of the major issues with the redistricting. People want to be sure thier children can take all the AP classes that they are qualified for regardless of where they go to school.

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Good point, Harry S. Maybe charge the stealth students more

Charge them more if they don't have responsible and involved parents like Athomegym. Say we charge the single parents $2k extra and the ones living with Grandma $3k extra and we use the money to hire you and me and Gym and others like us as mentors to get them to understand how important it is to get through school.

Sound like a plan?

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The real problem?

Please explain how the schools of FC do not offer the same opportunities. What, exactly, does MHS have that SCHS does not have that is denying students opportunities? The basic academic classes needed to graduate are offered at all schools. Both schools have high caliber teachers, administrators and staff. What, exactly, do you mean?

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All FC school not created equal

To answer your question, and just as one example, MHS offers more AP classes than SCHS with students actually taking the AP exams at the end of the courses.

College preparedness is highter at MHS as compared to SCHS with SCHS having 15% of the student population in remedial education as compared to .6% at MHS.

6th grade achievement at Flat Rock is at 66.32% compared to Booth at 89.2% and falling under the district as a whole (at 78.85%).

For more information with respect to these statistics and others, please visit the governor's website at: http://gaosa.org/FindASchool.aspx?TabRequested=District&FromSection=repo...

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Comes Down To Parent Involvement

You can staff schools with the best teachers, offer the highest level classes and programs, but students must take advantage of them. The family unit is the driving force behind taking advantage of educational opportunities and being successful in life. You can not chastise MHS or Booth for being more successful. It seems counter productive to level the playing field and make all of our schools mediocre as some on this post have suggested. The schools lagging behind in our district do not need people making excuses for them. What they need to do is create a solid plan to improve parent involvement and then their academic programs and stats will improve.

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opportunities

While I am not certain if this is still the case, in prior years Mac offered a greater variety of foreign language and AP options for high-achieving students. College admissions committees do not consider all Fayette schools to be equal with respect to academic rigor. Obviously that is not the primary concern for the majority of residents; statistically only a small percentage of the snowflakes in the county are truly equipped for that kind of a curriculum. But it is a valid concern - at least it was a few years ago.

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Football team

Don't these parents realize that if their child is redistricted to Sandy Creek then they will have a better football team to cheer for? Isn't football king here in the south??? :-)

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Schools are not equal because families are not equal

It is not the school it is who attends the school. The schools that have higher income families tend to have more parental participation and better prepared students. I went to a great high school that had a big influx of lower income students towards the end of my freshman year. Sorry to say the school quality suffered because the you had more students that needed extra help and did not have the parental support which brought down the other students. Not all these students but enough to affect the quality of the classes. I was fortunate that I had some great teachers who allowed me to do independent study(at home or in the library) or read books during the more boring parts of class. I know the way schools are now the teachers do not have that kind of leeway to keep the high performing students from hours of total boredom. The families matter..engaged parents and well-prepared students are a big part of a high performing school no matter how many tax dollars you pour into it.

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You were most fortunate to have the winning combination of good teachers AND parents! On paper, each classroom teacher and/or school should offer differentiated instruction to all students. Hard to accomplish. Good/bad parents come in all income brackets. Some of the charter schools in low income areas have a 'parent contract' that the parent must sign and follow in order for the child to remain in the school. ( the parent must provide time and space for homework; volunteer in some way to assist the teacher, etc.). You are so correct about 'families' and 'good' schools. Parent support is an important key to consider when selecting a school/school community.

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duplicate

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Enough is Enough

We live in a cross-section of the county which has been dictated to, bullied and left out of the equation due to Peachtree City whining and crying! Man-up, we have been tossed around like eggs because Peachtree City thinks that their kids live in a different county! We all live in Fayette County. To continue to think that you can not come out of Peachtree City to attend school isludicrous. FYI - you are attending out of the city. Those of you who are currently at Bennett's Mill are actually, guess what? in the "City of Fayetteville"! It is ridiculous for this to continue, we are 2 miles from McIntosh and 4 miles to Sandy Creek. Which makes more sense? Exactly! This process is not going to be easy for anyone, but we as a county, have to do what is best for the fiscal responsibility of our future!

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perception vs reality

Sure, PTC parents whine and cry, but it's easy to understand why. The majority of the tax dollars come from PTC, but the people who control the money and the boundary lines live in an area of the county (not PTC)that was miraculously unaffected by the decisions made 6 years ago and will be unaffected now. My house is also 2 miles closer to our current high school than to our proposed high school, but my neighborhood is on the table for redistricting, just like it was last time and the time before that. I guess that's ok for me, but not for you?

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school tax dollars
mother hen wrote:

Sure, PTC parents whine and cry, but it's easy to understand why. The majority of the tax dollars come from PTC, but the people who control the money and the boundary lines live in an area of the county (not PTC)that was miraculously unaffected by the decisions made 6 years ago and will be unaffected now. My house is also 2 miles closer to our current high school than to our proposed high school, but my neighborhood is on the table for redistricting, just like it was last time and the time before that. I guess that's ok for me, but not for you?

I'm not saying that you are wrong, but where did you see that the "majority of the tax dollars comes from PTC?" There are many people who live in other parts of the county that might beg to differ. Please post the link. Thanks!

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special permission

Maybe if all the special permission cases were revoked there would be room for MHS kids at MHS??? Expecially the out of county kids. That's just wrong, don't you think?

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property deal

I believe the deal is selling the current Board Office to the cemetery that is run by the Holiday/Dorsey foundation (I think that is who manages the cemetery). Not sure why that has to be kept a secret.

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which option

If that is what the plan is, then which option would be off of the table do you think?

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Preparing and adapting

I really feel it is foolish to place the redistricting plan on hold due to a potential property transaction. We need to be prepared for all possibilities. If this transaction comes to fruition, then we just need to adapt to this fork in the road. These decision-making delays are part of the reason we are in this crunch.

I really feel sorry for the children whose parents believe that Little Johnny is going to have psychological problems because he has to attend a different School. If these kids have problems it's because the parents dIdnt teach little Johnny that sometimes there are changes in life and you have to adapt. They may need to change schools but look at the new friends or experiences they will encounter.

People, it's our own fault we elected a board that failed to make wise and timely decisions. Let's not make another one.

Adapt or die

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""Keeping in mind the distance students may have to travel to get to and from school."""

Really? Maybe we should buy the BOE a Map,
Fayette County's TOTAL Area (land and water) is 199.25 Square Miles
Compared with the ever popular 445.98 Sq Miles of Coweta
Pre McIntosh EVERYONE who attend Government School had to find their way to Fayette Co High, oh and the roads where mostly dirt out in the county, and cars back then weren't all that reliable compared with today's, Ditto with Buses,
Let's have an Adult conversation, from the BoE, they might find Adults far more receptive if they do

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Are you serious??

"one speaker said she believed that requiring students to attend Flat Rock Middle School or Sandy Creek High School near Tyrone would “marginalize our children” while another said that transferring students to different schools would put them in a high-risk category for future psychological problems."

Really???

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The quality of education will

The quality of education will be marginalized. I moved to a district where my kids will attend McIntosh for a reason.

Why don't you investigate the percentage of property taxes paid by the people of Peachtree City versus the rest of the county? There is a reason our property values have remained higher than the rest.

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Yes, really

You should listen to the podcast. Many people showed their true colors, not only by wearing green but by what came out of their mouths.

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Redistricting on hold

Bearden must be so happy - he will be loooooooonnnnnnggggg gone when this heats up again. Smart to put it off.

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Bearden excels at putting things off

He has a future in Congress.

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