PTC cops take on game warden duties; will write fishing license citations

The long arm of city law is moving beyond city streets and cart paths to the shores of lakes Kedron and Peachtree. Peachtree City police are now empowered to enforce a state law requiring all fisherman to have a state fishing license.

Police Chief H.C. “Skip” Clark requested the move from the City Council, saying it will allow officers to issue citations to those who flout the state law in this regard.

Clark noted Thursday night that officers often come across out of town residents in violation of the city’s regulations which only allow city residents and their guests to fish in the city lake and ponds. Usually the offenders are given a warning because they may not be aware of the city regulation.

But all fisherman are aware they must possess a valid state fishing license to be able to fish anywhere, Clark noted.

Typically the state fishing laws are enforced by the Georgia Department of Natural Resources, and Fayette County Marshals are also empowered to issue citations for fishing license violations. [Correction: Lake Kedron is owned by the county. Lake Peachtree is owned by Peachtree City but by contract serves as the reservoir and intake point for the county water system. An earlier version of this story incorrectly stated that both were county-owned lakes.]

In other public safety business, council voted unanimously to spend $14,846 to replace a 2003 Expedition for the fire department that was heavily damaged after it was struck by another motor vehicle.

The city has received an insurance settlement of $19,530 for the vehicle and its equipment, and if the deductible can be collected from the at-fault driver of the other vehicle, the city will get its $5,000 deductible back, officials said.

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Hack would present such a delicate, yet in your face approach to let you know that this is insane. Why are Police Cruisers on the "MULTI-USE" Paths? Why do Police Officers need to engage in enforcing DNR laws? Does the PTCPD not already have enough to do? Why an expedition for the PTCFD? Granted, they do great work when they are needed but why an expedition? Buy American is something that I believe in as well but surely there is a less expensive option. Further, what equipment was recovered from the "totaled" vehicle that could possibly be installed in a replacement vehicle? Just wondering.

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I doubt very much that you will ever see Hack here again. It seems that the scumbag Othersidetracks has caused a multitude of problems for our Hack by (no pun intended) hacking into his email and phone accounts. Although the authorities are pursuing this, OST is proving elusive. I talk or exchange texts with Hack occasionally and will let him know of your post. Things are indeed less interesting without our Hack.

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I fail to see what the huge

I fail to see what the huge honken deal with this is? Its a law that's already on the books. Who really cares whether its DNR or PTC who enforces this?

Mr. King your wrong. Again

$14,000 to replace a $30,000 vehicle that was totaled? Where's the issue?

If this is such an issue then become mayor and fire everyone. We can build our own roads, put out our own fires solve our own problems and when we become to lazy or it takes too much effort to do it ourselves then we can cry when no one will volunteer to do it for us.

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Minor Correction - Peachtree City owns Lake Peachtree

Just a quick note on John's article and Mr. King's post below. Fayette County owns Lake Kedron (and will own Lake McIntosh). The City of Peachtree City owns Lake Peachtree (both north and south of Highway 54). Fayette County has a lease with the City for use of the water in Lake Peachtree in exchange for lake maintenance.

City ordinance limits the use of Lake Peachtree to Peachtree City residents and their accompanied guests. Lake Kedron is available to all (but fishing licenses are still required for those 16 and older).

Thanks,
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Good Morning Betsy

Glad to see that the Mayor has you responding for him.

You correctly state that Fayette County has leased the use of water for Lake Peachtree, which entails any property of that lease. Please ask his honor if he would like to explain why fish grown as a product of that water is not owned by the county. Otherwise, send him back to his room.

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Swimming in Lake Peachtree

So when did the law change to allow swimming in Lake Peachtree - aka our drinking water? They swim openly around the boat docks and behind Spyglass and near the dam there is a teen hangout where they have a rope on a tree where they take turns showing off their nubile tanned bodies by swinging into the lake - not that I mind, you understand - just asking.

What I do mind is the out of county people coming in here and using the amenities that we have paid for one way or another. If Steve Brown can charge my Peachtree City dog a fee to use the dog park to fund maintenance, then we can charge the Cowetians and Claytonians the same way.

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It's been legal to swim there since I've been here...

I am sure you realize they "treat" the water before we use it.

The City cut down the limb that held the rope....the kids kept going higher and higher in the tree, someone was going to get hurt. But the view was nice... :)

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Mudcat and Spyglass....Prof. Humbert called. He said you're now welcome as honorary members of his Pervert Club.

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Sure its legal. The rope was a bit nostalgic, and if the city has gotten itself into the business of denying kids a right of summer, they have surely lost their focus.

Our police simply don't have enough to do, and your earlier comment about them getting a jet ski to patrol the waters may be closer than you think.

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Fayette County & Lake Peachtree & "Game Wardens"

If the county is to maintain the Lake (both north & south), when will the work on the north side ever begin? Anyone that has ever ventured out in the lagoon will soon find that a canoe will scrape bottom. I estimate a good portion is 18". If something is not done w/ the Flat Creek channel it will soon be a true wetland swamp & not a creek. 2 or so "dreggings" ago, maybe when the county was allowed to create "Goose Island" & cut the residents on the eastside off, they also were allowed to place rip-rap under the bridge to keep all the sediment on the northend. Now, you may ask where does all this soil come from? A good portion may have come from the years ago contruction on & around Kedron but a large portion of the present day comes from the golf course. There is an awful lot of sand in both Flat Creek & Cherry Branch. The issue of dog waste & the water supply has been mentioned in this thread & I often wonder who picks up after the ducks, the geese, the cats, the deer, the rabbits, coyotes, etc? More concern should be given to what chemicals the golf course & the houses around Lake Kedron are leeching. Finally, it only makes "cents" to have the PTCPD enforce fishin' lic's. Good community policing shows that when the fish ain't bitin' these kriminols will take to stealin' your flat screens. It ain't call Policetree City for nothin'.

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Lake Cat Manure?

Well, now I know why that yellow snow I used to like tasted bitter!
I never dreamed that our water supply had duck, goose, squirrel, rabbit, deer, and coyote waste in it. Much less the occasional builders helpers not wanting to use the filthy port-a-potties, and the hunters, fishermen, and kids using the woods around as toilets.
Having lakes in town sure sell property, but wouldn't it be better to have water supplies away from scroungy places?
The golf course chemicals probably aren't as unhealthy in our water as is 10,000 lawns!

As to stealin and such by fishermen who can't catch a fish due to fish not being hungry, I suppose we could check and see if they have caught any fish and then arrest them for thinking about stealin--especially if they looked "suspicious," had no fancy golf clothes on and had a "Dawgs" hat.

If it is time to dredge out the lakes again might I suggest that it be delivered to homes of PTC citizens as top soil? $20 a load. By luck of the draw!

What is rip-rap? Under the bridge, did he say? Is South PTC having a feud with North PTC? Developers blamed again---this time for stuff caught by the "rip-rap!

Finally, we need not to criticize our new Game Wardens who are interested in licenses to fish and I assume trash st rowers and illegal aliens who are not from Peachtree City or Fayette County. "Papers" please?

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Lake Cat Manure

I walked the paths around the lakes a couple of times at different times of the day, and I never saw any hordes of strange looking, trash strowing, out of towners (I would have assumed) anywhere!
I never saw a cop either on a water ski or in his car on the paths--on a bicycle or gold cart, nor in a helicopter!

Papers please!

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If any of the complainers below ever came to the park at Battery

Way and picked up the trash that the out of County folks leave, they would be thankful for the extra teeth in the enforcement.

Thanks PTC, you need to question more folks about this.

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Trash & Complainers

If anyone would walk any cart path leading away from any fast food take-out you will see it is not the out-of-towners who are the true problem. I can't always blame the kids because the golfers seem to be about as bad, after all you don't want to be caught w/ an empty beer bottle in the cart. A 10 cent - 25 cent tax should be levied on all take-outs to pay for litter.

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I don't propose to speak for all, but both my better half and I have picked up crap all along the boat landing area and will continue to do so as we walk the pooch. How about joining me in reminding our residents to carry plastic bags and pick up after their four legged companions. Most of the trash and dog poop are not caused by nonresidents, but you may disagree.

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Lots of out of county tags at the park....

You're probably right about more residents than non residents and the trash. I too pick up trash myself. I'm down there all the time. I watch a lot of sunsets from that park.

I will say that this weekend, I saw the PTC Police questioning folks, and they politely asked some to leave. I'm all for it.

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We did not make it to view a sunset this weekend due to our year end golf tourney, but have not seen the police there other than a ride through on those ATV's. Back in the summer I did witness a police cruiser drive from Kelly Drive to the docks via the path and I can only wonder as to what he was fishing.

As for asking out of towners to leave, one must realize that the County owns both our lakes not PTC.

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Kedron and Lake Peachtree have different rules...

They are clearly posted.

I have seen the Police questioning/talking with folks on the weekends. I applaud it. I have no idea why some are complaining about this.

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So...

this is about trash? Extra teeth to bite what? Don't we already have a littering ordinance? Maybe we need a law to enforce that law? What am I missing here? We already have game wardens patroling. -GP

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Thanks for your protection!

Clearly another public safety issue. I once witnessed a video of a fish tossing an apple on shore and violently hooking a person. -GP

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PTC Revenue Rangers....

There must be a revenue upside?

Who adjudicates the citation -- PTC local juridiction -- or GA DNR??

Does the citing jurisdiction get a chunk of the fines imposed for violating Hunting & Fishing Regs (DNR revenue)??

Do we project a "break-even" bottom line for this additional duty?
Training... On-Duty hours used for this enforcement... Admin.... Court costs of contested cases... ??
JMHO.... there's a lot to think about....

BTW: There are some folks & families that fish in PTC lakes for the food on their table.
I wonder what the Revenue Rangers will say to them?

This could open a real can of worms...

....as we wonder what's next?!?

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OK, we have Peachtree City's finest writting citations for fishing license violations, does that mean we citizens pay to have them certified as game wardens? Next, they'll tear out the rope swing over Lake Peachtree forcing kids away from the lake because no one has hired a city life guard.

Naw, just an end run for our city to hire more policemen with little for them to do and to make excuses for squad cars driving on cart paths. It does make the Chief's resume stronger, however. Further, it shows that City Council is actively involved in issues of no consequence.

Why is it that the Fire Department needs another Expedition? Surely, a small pickup would work. New Expeditions are above $30K, and small pickups are around $14-15K, this city does have around $18 million in debt, and there are those on Council who campaingned on reducing expenditures.

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Have you ever tried to carry more than 1 person

or keep equipment dry and safe in a Ford Ranger? Nothing against Rangers, they are fine little trucks.

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Once Again

Once again, Mr. King posts without all the facts:

“Why is it that the Fire Department needs another Expedition? Surely, a small pickup would work. New Expeditions are above $30K, and small pickups are around $14-15K,”

Another Expedition? It’s to replace the one that was totaled by the garbage truck, I’m not sure how that’s “another”. As far as the cost, you’ll notice with the insurance check the replacement cost is going to be that $14-15K amount that “you approve of” anyway. And the reason Fire Departments use Expedition / Suburban type vehicles is for the Command Space in the back, having an area to operate at incidents. This is basically a mobile office area for command officers to track personnel and equipment at calls, carry various resource materials, have tracking boards, radios, and with the lift gate have everything under cover in case of rain or inclement weather. You have no knowledge of what firefighters and fire departments actually do, as usual you post confirms this.

Notes from council meeting: “In other public safety business, council voted unanimously to spend $14,846 to replace a 2003 Expedition for the fire department that was heavily damaged after it was struck by another motor vehicle. The city has received an insurance settlement of $19,530 for the vehicle and its equipment, and if the deductible can be collected from the at-fault driver of the other vehicle, the city will get its $5,000 deductible back, officials said.”

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Another Expedition?

If having cargo space for a mobile office truly defines the need for an SUV, I just looked up the price of a bare-bones 2010 Honda Element. It's $19,700. Since we've got an insurance check for $19,530 that'd be an excellent replacement value.

Of course, purchasing a Honda Element would violate at least two core tenets of the PTC Fire Dept: 1) "Arrive In Style" and 2) "Gold Plate Everything".

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I would think Rule #1 would be Buy American.

I also think the other rule about trading everything in or demoting it from daily use when it hits 100,000 miles needs reviewing. Last 3 cars/SUV's I have had were fine up to 250,000 miles.

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A front wheel drive Honda Element

isn't nearly as useful of a vehicle for the FD as a RWD Expedition. Towing/hauling etc..no match.

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Spyglass: Requirements Analysis

Okay, we're getting more input on the specifications of a "command vehicle"!

to summarize, the current identified needs are:

  • Ability to house a "command center desk" (whatever that is) and related paraphenalia
  • Ability to transport groups of firefighters to local restaurants
  • Ability to tow unspecified packages of unknown weight

Any more requirements?

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Once again you allow an alligator mouth to override a lack of intellect. The primary purpose currrently used for PTCFD expeditions is to get more than one to lunch and even official trips around town. Check the parking area in front of the Georgia Shrimp Company during lunchtime. To be more specific, do we need yet another Expedition? You do realize we have more than one, don't you?

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King / CHR's / Bacon

Guess I shouldn’t question the knowledge and wisdom of the all knowing Mike King. You are the same one whom will argue on this forum that a FREE car that the PCPD received is “Still More Expensive”. I see Betsy beat me to the post about the lakes, as once again your information is incorrect. With the many similar comments which you’ve become known for posting on these forums, it’s obvious no one is as smart as you. That’s the problem here, there’s lambs reading this stuff that are "almost" as smart as you and actually believe what you post up. I guess the FD staff officers shouldn't frequent local restaurants, as it seems that Public Safety personnel even eating somewhere offends you.

CHR's/Bonkers/Dollar - I'm not even sure why or how you try to relate FDNY to PCFD, but much like Mr. King your facts are way off. The approximately 14,000 employees of the FDNY have way more than 43 "command" vehicles. I know that just their last order alone for replacement command and supervisor vehicles this year was for 80, and that's only a small portion of the fleet. And these were all rather high dollar units, not like the simple and cost effective PCFD SUV's that we have.

Now as for this "Bacon", what's your Beef. While I'm not really familiar with your Honda Element, I'd venture to guess it doesn't have anywhere near the interior space to carry all the equipment we do. I'd also guess that a "bare bones Element" wouldn't have very much of a towing capacity, to tow the many trailers that the Fire Department utilizes. I can also assure you that those "gold plated / arrive in style" Expeditions really aren't all that much more than your Element. A lot of the costs involved include emergency lighting; a rooftop emergency lightbar alone installed is just shy of 2K, radios 5-6K, other needed emergency lights and siren installed around 2k, lettering and striping, 1K, etc... Once you add all the needed accessories to whatever vehicle you want, the cost of the base vehicle isn't all that different. But what it can do, what utility does it have and what kind of bang for the buck did you get. Throw your Honda into the mix, the first issue the city mechanics have experience working on Fords and Chevy's, even stock some parts for them. The Expeditions have similar engines, drivetrains and other parts to the city's police cars and other city vehicles, throw your Honda into the mix and throw out many efficiencies for starters. I can go on, but I won't.

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Intheknow (?)

Please answer one question: Why is it that when talks of budget shortfalls and potential cuts in personnel for government agencies people like yourself become so insecure? One might believe that you are unable to make it in the private sector.

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Mr. King, I'm not so "insecure", I'm just setting the record straight, as I've been doing on these blogs since I joined them early in 2006 (way before the present economic situation). As for my ability to "make it in the private sector" I'm a firefighter, and what do most firefighters do, work a second job. And since I've been doing the same second job for almost as long as I've been a firefighter, I'd have to say I've been "making it in the private sector".
I might add that I've been posting on here since 2006 after reading the many misinformed postings in these forums, primarily ones regarding Public Safety. It seems obvious you were in the military by your picture, I wasn't and don't know a lot about the military, so you wouldn't see me posting up on how our military does things, and what I think should be done different. But I've been in Public Safety probably even longer than you were in the military, and I happen to know a little more than the average poster here.
I guess it's my passion for what I do, and whom I work for that has me monitoring these blogs looking to correct inaccurate postings.

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Something about a fireman and a military man arguing about "making it" or not bothers me for some reason I can't quite fathom!

Both were and are paid by taxes; both worked in dangerous jobs--at least sometimes; both made the choice to do what they do and did; and there is an obvious differential in standard of living however. (Two jobs?)

Maybe you guys should stop this bantering about who should get cut and who shouldn't (certainly the military pension will never be cut), nor is it likely that the fireman will lose his.

One is a contract and one is an understanding, but both are likely to survive somewhere.

It is still appearing as if things will get worse---we went too far with credit and pay-outs and promises, and the possibility exists that many will yet lose their livelihood.

It won't matter 20 years from now anyway---we never learn much from history!

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Expeditions vs. Elements
intheknow wrote:

Now as for this "Bacon", what's your Beef.

Silly me, I'm enamored of the quaint ideal that public agencies should use taxpayer dollars wisely.

intheknow wrote:

While I'm not really familiar with your Honda Element, I'd venture to guess it doesn't have anywhere near the interior space to carry all the equipment we do. I'd also guess that a "bare bones Element" wouldn't have very much of a towing capacity, to tow the many trailers that the Fire Department utilizes. I can also assure you that those "gold plated / arrive in style" Expeditions really aren't all that much more than your Element.

The Honda Element has 25.0 cubic feet of cargo space.
The Ford Expedition EL has 24.1 cubic feet of cargo space.

I'm still waiting to hear exactly what the FD tows behind their "command vehicles".

intheknow wrote:

A lot of the costs involved include emergency lighting; a rooftop emergency lightbar alone installed is just shy of 2K, radios 5-6K, other needed emergency lights and siren installed around 2k, lettering and striping, 1K, etc... Once you add all the needed accessories to whatever vehicle you want, the cost of the base vehicle isn't all that different.

Let's assume that the siren/light package cost is similar regardless of vehicle selected.

Base cost Ford Expedition is $35,000 ($39,000 for 4WD)
Base cost Honda Element is $24,000

I disagree with your "cost isn't all that different" conjecture.

intheknow wrote:

But what it can do, what utility does it have and what kind of bang for the buck did you get. Throw your Honda into the mix, the first issue the city mechanics have experience working on Fords and Chevy's, even stock some parts for them. The Expeditions have similar engines, drivetrains and other parts to the city's police cars and other city vehicles, throw your Honda into the mix and throw out many efficiencies for starters.

Any competent mechanic can perform routine maintenance on any vehicle (oil changes, radiator flush, etc). If they lack the expertise and/or competence to do repairs on an unfamiliar brand, we need to seriously consider outsourcing mechanical work or upgrading our mechanics.

Seriously, "we've only worked on Ford/Chevy" sounds like the pathetic "but we've ALWAYS done it this way!"

intheknow wrote:

I can go on, but I won't.

Good for you! The first rule of hole is: Stop digging.

Perhaps next time you can show up with some verifiable facts!

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Chris P. Bacon: Verifiable facts

Honda Element:
Cargo Volume (cu ft, behind 2nd-row) – 25.1
Cargo Volume (cu ft, maximum) – 74.6
Towing capacity – 1,500 lbs.

Ford Expedition EL
Behind 2nd row – 85.5
Behind 3rd row – 42.6
Maximum cargo volume – 130.8
Towing capacity – 9,200 lbs.

What needs towing you ask:

Hazardous Material Trailer
Jet Skis/Boats
Technical Rescue Trailer

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bad_ptc wrote:

Honda Element:
Cargo Volume (cu ft, behind 2nd-row) – 25.1
Cargo Volume (cu ft, maximum) – 74.6
Towing capacity – 1,500 lbs.

Ford Expedition EL
Behind 2nd row – 85.5
Behind 3rd row – 42.6
Maximum cargo volume – 130.8
Towing capacity – 9,200 lbs.

What needs towing you ask:

Hazardous Material Trailer
Jet Skis/Boats
Technical Rescue Trailer

Finally, someone steps up with the towing needs!

Now then, Mike King states below that the FD's fleet of F150/F250 trucks are used to pull these trailers, and that the Expeditions are used solely for personal transport.

Can anyone care to confirm or deny this?

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FD Towing

why do they have a Jet Ski?

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To direct boat traffic and those pesky swimmers, and now to check fishing liscenses

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Great mental picture there, Mike
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To direct boat traffic and those pesky swimmers, and now to check fishing liscenses

I laughed out loud at the thought of the PTC Jet Ski thundering up to the dock "I'm going to need to see your fishing license, sir!"

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Fishing licenses

I have to agree that this thing of cops doing fishing licenses is the stupidest thing they have done yet.
Was that a suggestion of the new Chief?

If it is being done as a complaint only check (please come now before they leave, they look like they are from Griffin) it won't work any better than does the code violations!

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For snow skiing....

What do you think they would have a jet ski for? Water Rescue and impressing the chicks. Duh...

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Bacon, if you like Honda's so much, buy one

and give it to the FD. Then they can sell it and get a proper vehicle for the job.

FWD isn't worthy/durable enough for this this duty.

Are you seriously going to compare an Element with a 4 cylinder to an Expedition with a V8, that as others have said, shares many parts with the police cruisers we use now?

You are clearly not thinking straight here.

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Going for the gold......plating
Spyglass wrote:

and give it to the FD. Then they can sell it and get a proper vehicle for the job.

FWD isn't worthy/durable enough for this this duty.

Are you seriously going to compare an Element with a 4 cylinder to an Expedition with a V8, that as others have said, shares many parts with the police cruisers we use now?

You are clearly not thinking straight here.

I took up your offer and called the FD to inquire about donating an Element, however, they said regulations prevented them from accepting one....

...unless it was gold-plated! **rimshot**

It has been 4 days now and no one has explained to me exactly WHAT this "command vehicle" tows, or how often this occurs.

I want to see the business need, folks. I'm not adverse to using taxpayer dollars for a Ford Expedition if there's a business need. Someone explain why a V8 is necessary. All I'm hearing is the generic splutter-and-situational-outrage.

With all the FD groupies and apologists that visit this site, you'd think someone might be able to answer my question!

p.s. I wasn't aware that the Ford Expedition shared any parts with the Ford Crown Victoria police cruisers. Fascinating.

p.p.s. I don't particulary like Honda Elements, for your information. But I have no problem recommending them for public use if they'll A) do the job and B) save the taxpayers money.

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p.s.s.s.

Obviously, we're edumacating you little by little.

If you'll check, the Ford Ex and the CV cruisers share many engine parts, in fact, they run basically the exact same OHC Modular V8. Both are rear wheel drive, with basically the same automatic transmissions.

I will say that if you needed to deliver a few boxes of cotton balls the Element may be just the ticket.

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The Fire department's fleet of F-150/F-250 trucks are there for towing, the Expeditions are for lunch trips or the personal mode of transportation of the Chief and his deputies.

You do realize that the door handles and the power window buttons are interchangeable.

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Chrispy,

Elements are nice little vehicles, but not suitable for anything other than family cars. Narrow/shallow wheel base, tiny wheels, top heavy, might roll over. Also all that storage space is mostly over your head as its got plenty of head room, but limited storage space without stacking everything to the ceiling. Again roll over hazard

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MIKE

What would they do though without a "command" vehicle? I thought the "command" went with them in the fire truck and ambulance to drag the fender benders off the road!

Is there a command vehicle at all stations, or do the "command" go to every wreck and the once a year fire?

What is in there that is not in a vehicle? A desk maybe?

Even NYC fire department and their 200,000 people only have 43 "command" vehicles to go to lunch.

But they say they can't be effective with any less.

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MIKE & Scribbler

This won't be enforced except in the case of a homeowner calling and complaining about a "suspicious" (all I can say) person fishing in the lake!
Odd, the cops know DNR regs but not city ordinances regs! You know: the junk piles beside the houses, no grass, etc.

Revenue does look good on a Chief's work record!
Good schooling for his officers also.

Wonder what will actually happen if we are forced to layoff cops if this Great Recession doesn't let up (which it won't soon)?

There is another strange thing also: After talking to some Tea Party people recently, I found that although they want all taxes CUT, even this town's) they don't want any cops or firemen or teachers laid off!

They want to get the money to pay them from "other sources!"

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Who were the ones runaway by the cops? Is the lake ours?
Courthouserules wrote:

This won't be enforced except in the case of a homeowner calling and complaining about a "suspicious" (all I can say) person fishing in the lake!
Odd, the cops know DNR regs but not city ordinances regs! You know: the junk piles beside the houses, no grass, etc.

Revenue does look good on a Chief's work record!
Good schooling for his officers also.

Wonder what will actually happen if we are forced to layoff cops if this Great Recession doesn't let up (which it won't soon)?

There is another strange thing also: After talking to some Tea Party people recently, I found that although they want all taxes CUT, even this town's) they don't want any cops or firemen or teachers laid off!

They want to get the money to pay them from "other sources!"

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This hurts me to say it

but you are correct(mostly)-LOL. I am a Tea Party member and I say we are all in this together, as do most members I know. Government should be smaller and more efficient. -GP

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Seems unconstitutional?

That a State of Georgia fishing license is required to fish in Peachtree City, but you have to live here first, even if you have a state license---unless of course you are a visitor of a Peachtree City resident, then you can be from Wisconsin if you wish!

Of course I would prefer that the police patrol the cart paths rather than the lakes, but I am aware that much of that lake patrolling can be done from a vehicle on a main street.

I have to assume that this isn't being done for money into the slim treasury and that there is no racial enforcement from Riverdale or Newnan, or anywhere.

It was not mentioned, but aren't seniors over 64 allowed to fish here without purchasing a state fishing license?

I would think that we could afford to allow people to catch fish to eat in these desperate times of the Great Recession!

Something smells like Switzerland about such an unusual and odd reason to write tickets by sworn law enforcement city officers, of which we have too few according to them!

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CHRs & Fishing License

If you're 65, you can get a FREE, Lifetime State license--just go ask at a place that sells them.

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