Mayor touts savings, Dienhart wants ‘reform,’ Logsdon cites ‘return to civility,’ Jolly opposes SPLOST

Candidates for the Tyrone and Peachtree City councils face the public Saturday at the Fayette County Library in Fayetteville. From left, front row, are Tyrone candidate Pota Coston and Peachtree City candidates Stephanie Franz, Cathy Haddix (with microphone), Mike King and Kim Learnard. Back row, from left, are George Dienhart, incumbent Don Haddix, Ryan Jolly and Harold Logsdon. Photo/John Munford.

Councilwoman Learnard: "SPLOST a good business decision"; Mrs. Haddix opposes, says PTC must make budget provisions for its own expenses

Four of Peachtree City’s five mayoral aspirants put their ideas up for public consumption in a candidate forum Saturday hosted by several groups at the Fayette County Public Library in Fayetteville.

Political newcomer Ryan Jolly took the stage with former City Councilman George Dienhart, former Mayor Harold Logsdon and incumbent Mayor Don Haddix. A fifth candidate, Vanessa Fleisch, was absent due to a prior commitment.

Dienhart positioned himself as the reform candidate, advocating the hiring of a public safety chief to oversee the fire and police departments and also for the implementation of zero based budgeting to further cut costs. Dienhart was first elected to the council in late 2011, having moved to Peachtree City four years earlier. He resigned his council post in August to run for mayor.

Jolly meanwhile said one of his largest goals is to “bring functionality back to a most dysfunctional government,” noting the biting disagreements and verbal tiffs that have happened at council meetings on more than a few occasions.

Likewise, Logsdon spoke of the need to “return civility to the mayor’s office,” renew an emphasis on ethics and rebuild relationships with the city’s neighbors.

Haddix bragged that he was able to save the city over $1 million a year in increased efficiencies and said the city needs to re-activate its former development authority to seek out small and medium size businesses that can’t be targeted by the county development authority.

One of the more important questions asked was whether the candidates supported the proposed core infrastructure Special Purpose Local Option Sales Tax that will be decided by voters in November. Haddix and Jolly opposed it, while Dienhart and Logsdon favored it.

Most of the city’s projected $14 million share from the two-year SPLOST would go towards road and cart path maintenance to plug an annual $1.5 million gap left by the exhaustion of funds from the 2004 countywide transportation SPLOST.

Jolly said the sales tax is a short-term fix for a long-term problem, saying the city should have budgeted for road and cart path repair instead of hoping for voter approval.

“We know we’re going to use it. We know it’s going to wear out,” Jolly said.

Haddix opposed the new SPLOST, saying it would cost $200 a year to the average homeowner when the city has already raised taxes and needs to “get its house in order first,” instead of issuing a new tax.

Dienhart said the new SPLOST was “a no brainer” because it would cost more to raise the millage rate or take other actions to raise the money. He added that he wanted to use the new SPLOST “as a bridge to sensible budgeting” so such a measure wouldn’t be needed in the future.

Dienhart did not explain what areas of the budget he would cut to get to the annual $1.5 million in savings necessary to accommodate road and cart path repair, but said the budget deserved a look at each line item.

Logsdon said he supports the new SPLOST in part because it is a consumption tax and also because the previous five-year SPLOST allowed for a number of transportation items to be taken care of.

“People don’t come to Peachtree City to live in a second-class environment and we’re going to have to pay for it,” Logsdon said.

The candidates were also asked how they would “solve” traffic on Ga. Highway 54 West.

Logsdon made a case for extending MacDuff Parkway, adding that it wouldn’t completely solve the problem. He noted that while a study of the area seems a bit much, it’s probably necessary.

Dienhart disagreed, saying any study should be funded by the Georgia Department of Transportation instead of the city so state taxpayers and not city ones, are footing the bill.

Jolly said a friend of his who is a road engineer suggested a bridge over the intersection that would allow the existing traffic light at Ga. highways 54 and 74 to be removed.

Haddix said the true solution lies in road improvements outside of Peachtree City, which he contends is “completely bottlenecked” on Hwy. 54 West.

Explaining his concept for the public safety chief’s position, Dienhart said he wants an out-of-town staffer brought in to help resolve issues at the police and fire department.

“The problem is we’ve been slapped with some lawsuits over the past few years, and the way to fix that is through a public safety chief,” Dienhart said, arguing that the departments need a culture change.

Candidates were also asked individual questions that others couldn’t address. During that portion of the forum:

• Logsdon was asked about his management style. He replied that he believes in giving guidance and direction but avoiding micro-managing.

• Dienhart was asked about how to use his role as a regional leader to have a positive impact. He replied that he already has an “excellent working relationship” with other regional officials and suggested he was the only mayoral candidate at the forum who has done that consistently.

• Jolly said part of having a balanced budget means funding “regular maintenance items like roads and cart paths.” He also added that he wants to get more young people involved in the city.

• Haddix said there were areas in which the city could trim costs. He also touted his role with other governments in the region, saying he was friends with the mayors of Riverdale and Union City, for example. Haddix also said he promoted the city at events hosted by the Georgia Municipal Association.

• Logsdon said he supported efforts on economic development because commercial development brings in far more revenue than industrial revenue while new residential development has a negative revenue attached to it.

• Jolly said he did not support a new traffic light on Ga. Highway 54 West to serve a gas station and restaurant which are part of a larger undeveloped shopping center.

Several questions were also asked about county government, despite the fact that the mayor won’t have any jurisdiction over county affairs to speak of, as those powers are expressly delegated to the five-member Fayette County Board of Commissioners.

The candidates were also asked about district voting for the county, another moot issue because not only is it out of their jurisdiction but the issue has mostly been settled with a ruling from a federal judge that requires the county to adopt district voting in lieu of the county’s current at-large voting procedure.

The event was co-hosted by several Fayette County groups including the local branch of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, the local Fayette County Issues Tea Party and the Fayette County Democrat Party.

Forum marked by absenteeism of some council candidates

Several city council hopefuls in Peachtree City joined a counterpart from Tyrone in facing live questions Saturday at a candidate forum sponsored by several groups at the Fayette County Public Library in Fayetteville.

There was a certain lack of fireworks due to absentee candidates, as the only race drawing all competitors was the Post 3 seat in Peachtree City. In that race, incumbent Kim Learnard faces challenger Cathy Haddix, the wife of incumbent Mayor Don Haddix.

While Mrs. Haddix said she opposed the countywide core infrastructure Special Purpose Local Option Sales Tax, Learnard said the option will be up to voters, as she never committed to a position on the sales tax. Learnard did say “a good business case” could be made in favor of the SPLOST.

If Fayette voters shoot down the tax in November, the city will need to find another revenue source for an estimated $1.5 million a year in road and cart path maintenance.

Learnard said the SPLOST would cost the least for taxpayers based on an analysis done by Peachtree City Councilman Eric Imker.

Mrs. Haddix said the city needs to first address its own budgeting issues before taking on more spending through a new sales tax.

Mrs. Haddix argued that the city needs to reinstate its development authority to help get more businesses to come to Peachtree City. She also advocated more citizen involvement “because we have a lot of things that need to be shaken up, so to speak.”

Mrs. Haddix also said Peachtree City has been ranked as the least affordable city among other cities its size in Georgia.

Learnard said she has helped expand economic development in the city and voted for a balanced budget while restoring recreation programs including those for seniors.

At the same time, the city has cut the budget significantly over the past four years to create a sustainable budget, Learnard said, admitting that it lacked road and cart path funding.

“Every department in Peachtree City has been cut to the bone,” Learnard said. “We’ve cut so much that the potted plants in the lobby of City Hall haven’t come back.”

There are seven options that have been devised to solve the road and cart path funding issue, Learnard added.

Learnard said she has showed leadership by remaining positive and working diligently for the city, adding that she is invigorated by meeting with residents on various issues several times a week.

“I like to think of it as I have 35,000 bosses,” Learnard said.

In questions posed to individual council members, Mrs. Haddix said she didn’t think the raises approved for city council members were unreasonable, but later she clarified that she would not pursue a raise while in office.

Responding to another individual question, Learnard said one of the city’s biggest issues is a need to look at its borders to determine how to control growth.

Peachtree City Post 2 candidate Mike King was the only one of three candidates for that seat to appear at the forum, as Shayne Robinson and Austin Chanslor did not participate.

King said he won’t “massage the truth to make things look better” but wants to apply fiscally conservative principles and specifically to resist increasing city debt.

King said he also supports hiring a public safety director to oversee Peachtree City’s police and fire departments, specifically to replace both the police chief and fire chief’s positions.

As for the core infrastructure SPLOST, King argued that roads and cart paths need to be funded from the general fund budget and a SPLOST should be for special projects instead.

“A SPLOST is a crutch,” King said, noting that with a budget north of $29 million the city should be able to fund road and cart path maintenance. “We need to live up to our responsibilities, not abdicate them.”

King also said one of the city’s biggest challenges is bringing amenities to the city so young families come back to Peachtree City, citing how his three children have not come back to live here as adults.

Asked about the largest budget he has handled, King noted that in his work with the Centers for Disease Control, he worked on a pandemic influenza immunization plan that cost more than $300 million.

King also made a pitch for switching city elections to even numbered years which would save $80,000 and increase turnout because it would coincide with presidential elections every four years as well.

The race for Peachtree City Post 4 also resulted in just one candidate appearing, as Stephanie Franz was on hand and challenger Terry Ernst was absent.

Franz, a political newcomer, admitted to being a bit nervous and “green” but said she loves Peachtree City and wants her 4-year-old child to grow up here.

Franz said she wants to get more young people involved in city affairs, saying she felt the recent National Night Out event could have been better attended by families.

Asked specifically if she would approve spending city funds on a college and career academy in Fayette County, Franz said she would, in part because the county needs to attract younger people.

“Bringing a college to town would be a wonderful thing and I would vote yes,” Franz said.

Franz said the city needs to broaden the tax base by bringing in more businesses and finding a way to redevelop neighborhoods that need to be revitalized.

“You can’t have families if you don’t have businesses here to employ them,” Franz said.

Franz said she supports the core infrastructure SPLOST.

Tyrone Post 3 candidate Pota Coston was on hand, while incumbent Ken Matthews did not appear at the forum.

Coston said she wants to revitalize the downtown area, citing a current lack of reasons for residents or visitors to walk or drive their golf cart there.

Coston said the vacant Tyrone Elementary School building could be an opportunity to help the town in that regard. She also wants to see a Livable Centers Initiative plan to help create “a vibrant downtown.”

Coston also noted that the town doesn’t have a budget shortfall, but good business sense is needed in weighing taxation decisions.

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Haddix: Honorable

Yes.

Try as you will, using indemnification is not dishonorable. I broke no law.

Who do you think paid the legal fees of the Councilmembers to settle their illegal actions against me? The citizens.

Now, ask Dienhart, since the bloggers deem him a major candidate, to answer Citizen_Steve's questions. See if he answers.

I would add another one to the list. Not illegal, but informative. Who actually owns their own home?

Get back to me when they answer.

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So you are saying they are renters?

This is one reason you should think before blogging.

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Spyglass

You are asking to much of him. He won't answer any real questions, he has no integrity and he is incapable of telling the truth. Can't wait for the election. We have a 4 out of 5 chance of improvement. Thinking before blogging is well beyond his capabilities.

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All-Star & Spy

Hate to say it, but Mr. Haddix has a point. I think we need to know more about George.

His website states that he is a former Marine and writer. Nothing else. Does he have a wife and kids and if so, does he have the time to be mayor? Does he own or rent a home? Are his personal finances in order? Does he owe the government money. Has he ever been arrested and or convicted? Really all legit questions that have not been addressed.

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Well

Since I am not voting for George, I am not concerned myself.

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Haddix: Husband

I could answer the questions through time for Mayor, but will restrict myself to just one you asked.

He does not have time to be Mayor. He is raising kids as a single parent and has a job.

Bob Lenox and Steve Brown tried to hold down jobs as Mayor, but couldn't. They gave up the jobs. It is too time consuming of a job.

Using my calendar this week, to illustrate the point, I have 22 hours of scheduled meetings, another 5 of unscheduled, 50 emails a day is a light load, etc.

Today I called a Special Call Meeting, then had to go to the County to finalized documents and sign 42 documents. Now I am heading out to a city event and have a meeting tonight.

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Good News Don!

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Your calendar is going to open up considerably after November 5th!

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Haddix: Look for Yourself

If you know how to to use GIS. Look for yourself.

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Haddix: Record

Totally debt free with a AAA rating. Married one time for 41 years.

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Donnie's kids

So Donnie, you left out an answer. You know, how you get along with your offspring. So how do you get along? When was the last time you talked to your son? Do you even remember the year?

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Uncalled for and not deserving of a Comment

from Mr. Haddix....

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Allstar - Not Right

Despite what we may think of Don's ability as a Mayor, challenging the relationship he has with his children is out of bounds and has no place in this discussion.

Mike

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Hey, Mikey, the face lift looks great! I may be falling in love

Did you do it for me or for the fact that you are now going to be in politics and want the female vote?

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MYTMITE... question for you

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Have you ever engaged Pumpkin Haddix on anything here? Curious as I would have loved to have seen that dialogue.

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Hi Mytmite!

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I was wondering where you were. No face lift, just a little Noxzema for an old person like me. And of course, I did it for you.
How have you been? Where have you been?

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I have been nursing a broken heart since you were absent. Where

were you? Waiting for the scars to heal? Don't pull a "Cher" on me and say you did nothing but slather on some Noxzema--if that is the case you could make a fortune touting their product. You could buy a bigger and better house--a mini mansion and we could start a life together--just the old me and the new MadMikey. As for me engaging Pumpkin in anything--no, never, but I think Pumpkin and DM have a running dialogue on this site. As for me i only have eyes, ears and time for my Mikey----don't get any prettier or all the women and some doubtfuls will all be after you and my chances which are now slim would become none (nil?). How does that song go "Don't break my heart"??? Hey are the rumors true that you may be throwing your hat in the ring for Mayor? Could I become Mrs. Mayor? Tell me now if you think I need a 'little' work done or at least several cases of Noxzema so I can start getting ready for my new role.

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Lol, Lol and Lol Mytmite

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Flattery will get you everywhere with me. No I wasn't waiting for any scars to heal; to have scars you have to have pain and to have pain you have to have feelings and I don't have any. Lost them years ago.
I am more like Mr. Ed, you know, a horse of course? "But Mr. Ed will never speak unless he has something to say." I enjoy being on the blogs purely for entertainment value but unless there is something in the forefront that I am passionate about, like keeping Mayor Haddix from getting re-elected, it is a time drain. After the election I will crawl back in my hole.
You know I will never run for office... I couldn't deal with pompous asses like me on a regular basis. But thinking of you and I as a team in the oval office does sound tempting.
Speaking of Mayor, do you have a HADDIT WITH HADDIX sign in your yard? Very trendy these days and I will personally bring it and erect it for you. When was the last time you had an offer like that?

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Beginning with your ending---do you mean an offer I can refuse??

I could not stand having you that close to me and knowing you belong to another--heartbreak to the nth degree. Unless you have an 30x40 glossy print of the new you I want nothing in my yard. You only coming on this site when you have something to say?---remember I read all those other posts you used to write---I think there had to be something nefarious going on-or at least a little sneaky to keep Mikey and his ego in the shadows. As for you and Mr. Ed, perish the thought. He is twice as cute and never even needed a face lift or Noxzema---but he preferred that cute little filly in the next stall--so I held out for you. And as i remember he was almost as full of wind as you have been in the past. But, keep up those Noxzema treatments--but don't let them go so far you look like Kenny Rogers or Bruce Jenner---

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Let me see...

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if I have an extra 30" x 40" glossy laying around and I will bring it right over! :)

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Hey Mikey, just happened to think---you are not using those poor

unsuspecting students to make those signs and trying to convince them that it is a Social Studies project are you? After all, there are still child labor laws and you wouldn't want to get in trouble with our esteemed police dept would you?

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I am rethinking my idea about cameras on every corner

Mad Mike and Mytmite getting it on is something we do not need to see.

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RM, no one said anything about getting on anything on any corner

and besides you would not be able to see anything for the mote in your eye!

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Mm and mm

Just make sure you are wearing a haddit with Haddix tshirt in glossy

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Alstar, evidently you don't know Mikey; he would never wear any-

thing that was prettier than he is or that would not show off that Noxzema glow he now sports. Besides, I think he still has that Man crush on our mayor and is not man enough to admit it. He tries to hide that fact by all the nasty remarks he makes but I can read between the lines.

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The fact I think the Mayor

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is sexy has nothing to do with his lack of skills to be our city's leader.

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I agree with that..

Now his Wife is running...and I think that is about the craziest thing a "couple" could want for their marriage. Both in office on the same City Council..I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

Best of luck to Mr. Haddix in his marriage if they should both win. Sitting on a Council with my Wife trying to please folks does not sound like quality husband/wife time to me.

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Touche' Spyglass...

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very true, lol

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Haddix: Family

Off limits for every candidate. They are not running.

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really , really ? you don't already know that?

hope you don't plan to go into the voting booth without personally vetting any candidate you plan to vote for. if so you still have your blinders on, omg. if you don't know how to research, your 'hate haddix' group should invite you to mimi's, but no they only spew hate and beer gut laughs so loud it disturbs everyone in the place. ask mad mike or go to the local library. perhaps the high school could assist, or any teenager you run in to.

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So Pumpkin in your words did Haddix Graduate or not?

If so, from where? The mind wanders...

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Pumpkin You are just clueless

I was not addressing YOU about education, yours is obvious. I was just addressing ALL the candidates not just pretty boy. And yes I do my homework before going in the booth. Like Cliff Notes I was taking a short cut and answers will be verified. When I vote it is with a sense of pride an honor, not because I am obsessed with someone. It is a big responsibility, not to be taken lightly as it I had a school girl crush on the candidate. Do your homework or stay home.

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Theprez

Excellent question, the only thing murkier than Mr. Haddix's background, not imagined background but real, is the Federal budget.

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Lawsuits, misdirection and egos

The lawsuit between filed by former mayor Logsdon against current Mayor Haddix was unfortunate.

The defamation lawsuit by Logsdon political ally Lane Watts against George Dienhart, myself and others is laughable.

I am also being sued by sore loser former commissioner Robert Horgan for calling for an investigation of the former county attorney taking and cleaning his county hard drives.

These lawsuit tactics rarely work and it is a shame that political operatives resort to such to knock their opposition off track.

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Are you for or against the TDK extension?

How about the west bypass?

The water issue is just rain runoff into Lake Peachtree per your posts here..

The NAACP is on line one and says you may have to run in a PTC district.... LMAO

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Glass houses

How many lies and half truths were told by you and your political operatives to get your buddies elected?

Yes, county attorney shouldn't have erased his drive, but he had approval and state concurred. How much time and money was wasted on your vendetta to discredit him? Have you even changed anything so this doesn't happen again? No. So what good came of it? Absolutely nothing.

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Haddix: Dienhart's Personal Lawsuit

You have heard Dienhart talk about his obeying the law, when he violated it.

I have been attacked the PTC Pride group over the the Logsdon lawsuit and ethics charge, both of which went nowhere.

The don't want to talk about taking my salary where the Councilmembers lost big time.

Then, at the Thursday Women's GOP forum, I was told some very interesting informatory. I have verified the information as correct.

The charges against Jim Richter have not yet gone to court. Dienhart has claimed he never touched her as have some other of his associates. The video proves otherwise.

And now, Steve Brown, George Dienhart and Jim Richter have all had a defamation lawsuit filed against them. It is personal with no hint of any connection to their elected offices, so they are own their own unless the GOP indemnifies them.

Dienhart has already lost one legal issue. I have lost none. What does this say about his character and those backing him.

I have been trying to campaign on the issues, but with candidates slinging mud, it forces me to respond.

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" I was told some very interesting informatory" said Hadddix

Yes boys and girls, that is an actual quote from the leader of our fair city. The man who forced himself into a meeting with Joel Cowan and the Chinese people who own almost all of our national debt. He thinks this kind of rhetoric will get him elected as mayor again when there are 4 or 5 other options for the voters.

Another quote from our s**t for brains mayor:
"Dienhart has claimed he never touched her as have some other of his associates".

Well, I never touched her either, so there! What in the world is he talking about? I'm sure he's dumb enough to respond, so let's wait and see.

How much longer do we have to endure this vile little man? Oh wait, I know - 19 more days and then it is over, yea!

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Haddix: Getting Desparate, Morgan?

Forced myself in to a meeting? Dream on.

Trying to spin what Dienhart said? "Dienhart has claimed he (Jim Richter)..." Ricther is also known as americanpatriot on the Blogs and has been sued, along with Dienhart, for defamation.

Yep, you are definitely sweating the election.

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Haddix:Mayor Title

Great, fighting with citizens and using the official title of mayor.

Stop using the title when you decide to brawl like a thug.
You do this city and it's citizens a major disservice when you pull these stunts.

Knock it off and Grow up.

Oh, it's spelled DESPERATE.

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It is just shameful to the City

He flat out does not get it.

Had it with Haddix signs on his own street....that must burn.

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Lies

You are like the story book kid your nose grows by the minute

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Why pay Harold

You settled out of court, let me splain that to you. You LOST a legal battle

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Want to see videos of the Mayor's Censure?

Go to the PTC PRIDE website and click on the Censure tab. If you haven't seen this before, you are in for a treat.

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Don Haddix & The Blogs

So Don, great seeing you run such a professional campaign for re-election as mayor.

This should be a great reminder to the citizens of the dysfunctional you bring where ever you go.

Further, you continue to use the TITLE OF MAYOR when you write your attacks.
How careless and what little disregard you have for the citizens.

Why are you using your title as you blog your comments here.....are you acting as the MAYOR representing the people here?

Let's say someone got upset with your comments, especially a private citizen.... And there was a lawsuit.
Is your plan to file with GIRMA again then take even more taxpayer money.

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Mr. Haddix - I can

see that you are back to writing your own posts now.

Grammar wasn't one of your strong suits, was it?

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Not attacks Don, just truths

Mayor Haddix, the goal of PTC PRIDE is simply to get the facts out about you, your experience (or lack thereof), and what has happened in your first four years as Mayor. We believe that armed with the facts, any rationally-thinking citizen will agree that another four years under your "leadership" will be overwhelmingly detrimental to Peachtree City.

It would serve you well to learn that just because a truth, a fact if you will, reflects negatively on you does not make it an attack.

Above you say "I have been attacked (by) the PTC Pride group over the the Logsdon lawsuit and ethics charge, both of which went nowhere."

I can see where you would think the Logsdon lawsuit went "nowhere" since the cost of that lawsuit, some $9,000 in legal fees and $3,000 settlement paid directly to Logsdon, didn't cost you a cent. The taxpayers of Peachtree City paid that bill for you. So indeed, it went "somewhere" for us, $12,000 less in the city coffers.

Once again, I will remind you that the reason the ethics complain went "nowhere" was because you Mayor refused to let a group of citizens go through the non-legal ethics process without you having a blank check signed by the taxpayers to provide you with legal defense. Steve Thaxton did the right thing, and dropped those charges ONLY to save the taxpayers your legal defense costs. In my estimation, he did the right thing.

These are not issues of dispute Mayor. The results of both of these matters are well documented.

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be sure of the stones you throw, they could come back to you.

start following the money if you want to look a bit deeper into the issues.

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Haddix Lies part 3.

Dienhart has not lost any lawsuit. This was a nuisance lawsuit. I am involved with the GOP, and the rumor is it was filed to to hurt him in the Mayoral race. I dont think Vanessa or Jolley would work with the Watts on this. That leaves you and Logsdon as playing dirty. Guess which way I'm leaning?

Dienhart is not accused of touching Watts- STOP lying.

I'm sorry, you never lost? Who was ordered to pay Logsdon? You were. More Lies!

Dienhart stated at the forum he would not seek the city to pay for. You set precedent where they probably would. That's the difference between an honorable public servant and you.

Again... still waiting for you to answer my previous questions, but you wont because you were caught in multiple lies. Ill add one. Where did you verify your latest info. More lies I am sure. You are the one slinging mud.

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can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen

of course mimi might go broke. you aren't slinging mud? that's all you jack's do
you love to promote hate but if it's one of the buds hell has no furry, but mostly not a damn leg to stand on. you know dienhart has a situation he will have to deal with, just admit it.

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Who is hot?

Did you get your sign? Had it with Haddix! Free delivery

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Pumpkin: Brown just answered you

The lawsuit is ridiculous and filed by the watts to try to save the floundering logsdon campaign. That's dirty, and PTC deserves better. The last two mayors have been laughable and or dirty. Time for someone decent.

I've never been to Mimi's.

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Republican women's club

Just got back from the meet and greet. Dienhart is 3 for 3 and building momentum. Its fun to watch, because every event I attend it appears Dienhart is having more and more fun. You can almost feel the momentum shift when he walks in. He had a great speech, and again got the biggest applause of the night.
It was a little ironic that no one wanted to talk to Vanessa after the speeches- at a women's club. The lukewarm response from this crowd has to be considered a disaster for Fleisch.
The Haddix's were once again a total disaster. You could feel the disinterest while each of them talked.
Harold still looks completely disinterested. The only person that really wanted to talk to him was the county GOP pariah Marilyn Watts. With the hatred felt towards this woman and her son, I don't know why he even allows himself to be seen with her.
Ryan Jolley was largely ignored. The only people that talked to him were George and Harold.
Stephanie was bad again. Don't think she has a chance against Terry.
Mike King was again way better than Shane.

Once again everyone read their statement except for Dienhart, King and Ernst. I really wish these people would respect our time enough to prepare. Dinhart, King and Ernst talk to us. It makes a world of difference and I think the three of them have built a lot of momentum. This may be over.

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Allstar = Deinhart

Allstar - your interpretation of these forums makes me wonder if you were at the same ones I was. Things must look different from the front of the room. Your second account alias is transparent, George, and does not speak well for your honesty or ability to play nice if elected.

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pandora you are right on

this group seems to wear blinders when they walk period, certainly if you read them 'play nice' 'honesty' and professional ADULTS are not part of their thought process.

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Election of Issues-Mayor

Instead of bikering, people need to research the facts and issues that each candidate stands for.

So far, what I see is

1-Voting for Haddix, is a vote for a continuation of the past 4 years. If that's what you want and to see a continuation of the same. Mayor Haddix wants a controlling vote of 3 on council and has offered no roadmap of how he plans to work with council based upon the candidates running, unless he thinks he will get control with Mrs. Haddix and some hidden plant running for council. If not, he should CLEARLY clarify how he plans to work with city council in the future. Does he plan to continue bullying everyone, writing editorials, nasty blogs, attacks, walk of the dias and a host of other stuff.

2-Voting for Dienhart appears to be a vote for Steve Brown and Mr. Dienhart has been very open about his strong working relationship with Fayette Commission. He should CLEARLY clarify if he plans to run a puppet government with Mr. Brown calling the shots or he will put Peachtree City first...ALWAYS! Thanks to Imker, PTC got ahead of their financial mess and that being said, does PTC become the "cash cow" to do what's needed in Fayette to fix things and move forward?

3-Voting for Fleisch and Logsdon.....Well, they are running "happy" campaigns but personally, I's like to hear more about how they intend to get our spending under some control and how they define the future working relationship with Fayette, other cities in Fayette, and the state.

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Larry

I am glad we had an opportunity to hash this out over the phone. I'll summarize for those not privy to the conversation.

I will not apologize for having a good relationship with Brown. Or the rest of the county board, the other local mayors or with our state legislative delegation and our congressman. I am the only candidate that can honestly say that he has any relationship with any of these people. This spirit of co-operation and good relationship cleared Peachetree City an extra million dollars in potential SPLOST money. With the new industrial park in Tyrone and the Pinewood project, we will need to work with our neighbors, and I am the only candidate for mayor with a history of doing so. Though I will continue to work well with others, the people of Peachtree City have and always will come first.

I am also the only candidate that has presented any plan for our future. The other candidates have only talked of the past and attacked their competition. I have not done this. I have stuck to the issues. I will continue to do so. 8 years of weak leadership has lead us to a point where we cant pay for our roads, have suffered through multiple lawsuits and cant keep the medians maintained. We need a change of direction- and I can provide the leadership necessary to do so.

With that in mind, I am posting my answers to Scott Bradshaw's questions in the appropriate thread. Again, I am the only one to do so. As always, feel free to contact me on facebook or via my website. You can call me at 678 462 2547.

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George Dienhart

Thank you for calling and expressing your thoughts on the phone and here on the blogs.
I agree and I am glad you clarified regarding Mr. Brown.

Also, you have been very clear with a proposal and budgetary solution.
Thanks

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Fair enough, Lawrence

But my biggest concern with several of our candidates (in all the races) is this obsession with "getting spending under control, cutting the budget, living within our means, etc." It's a euphamism for cutting taxes, and I don't think that is a realistic, or even beneficial, goal. The budget has been cut over the last four years, and Peachtree City is showing signs of neglect. I didn't choose this city for how much it was like everywhere else.

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Let me be clear on what I am looking at the for getting spending under control.

In 2008 I saw the Tennis Center and Fred were costing us over $500K a year in taxes. That was unacceptable.

I pushed for a management style change at the Fred. Those changes have saved PTC over $300K and year and improved service.

On the Tennis Center, I pushed public/private. That has greatly increased services offered, not lowered them, saved us over $300K a year and ended the never ending complaints we were getting.

On the Kedron Field House, that is a prime candidate for public/private, but Councils want to retain personal control for the sake of power. Still, changes I pushed there saved us well over $150K a year.

And there were changes in other departments. I stopped counting on the savings when they crossed the $1 million mark.

The OnePTC results spelled out very clearly there were Rec services lacking, too much of some others and some not wanted at all.

I have already discussed this with Staff and we already see areas where we can give more of what is wanted and reduce overall costs.

Fact is only about 7K PTC citizens use Rec with only about 1.5K using the sport fields. The bulk are Fayette residents and you are paying for their Rec.

If I am reelected the City Manager and I will be sitting down with the County and talking to them about contributing more money to pay for their residents use of our facilities. We have 75% of the Rec in Fayette.

Other Rec options are more public/private and/or re-purposing expensive usages that are not wanted to less expensive purposes that are.

Why would anyone arguehat is is a bad approach? The notion that it takes more money to give more has been proven false.

That is just few examples of what I am looking to do. But it takes a 3 vote.

Tournaments cost more than they bring in. Contrary to claims, when the H/M increased hotel stays decreased.

Getting DAPC back also is a money source. Young people would be here in droves if Rec drove the want to be here. It doesn't, jobs do. They do not want to commute.

The redevelopment we were seeing at Crosstown and Glenloch stopped when they were dissolved. We have Fresh Market, Farmers Market and more due to their work.

In 2007, when Doug Sturbaum and I were elected, along with Mark Hollums, we went after getting colleges here. When I got DAPC active again, Mark became a board member and they joined the effort. We did not get campuses, but we got Clayton State and Point University satellites that are growing.

So, the effort to get a full college here is not over. But, with the economy, etc, it has been slowed.

Contrary to what you are hearing, there is no partnership with Pinewood to locate a campus here. But, it is an added incentive for a college to add to their current presence here and I will pursue it.

As for the Career College, I have no idea where the funding for that is supposed to come from. It is a consumer of tax dollars, while one like Clayton State is returns about $1.42 for every dollar spent to the local economy.

There was a meeting of regional legislators and Mayors Wednesday. Pinewood wanted misconceptions like that corrected.

There was a lot of talk and presentations, Fayetteville obviously had their economic development presentation as did the FCDA for the County. PTC had no one.

As Matt Forshee said at a Council Meeting, he is tied up with Pinewood.

At the meeting he announced the time constraints have grown because the State appointed the FCDA the Camera Ready representatives for the region.

I am sure you have seen all the economic dollars, but those are for the whole region, not just Fayette.

We need DAPC back, this time a Director (could be Emily Poole) with 7 professional volunteers, working on behalf of PTC. 8 people can do far more than one in Fayetteville.

So, I am not about cutting, I am about providing good services in the most economical manner possible.

You have to also recognize in the hay day with all the growth and new spending on services, that was funded by one time fees, has ended. Those are going to be few and far between now. We have to get realistic on our wants and get jobs in here to replace those one time fees.

People are already leaving due to the tax and other financial burdens. We cannot sustain the current polices. Like it or not, they have to change, just adding taxes and debt will not work.

I have shown ways to do it. All Fleisch and Learnard have shown is the DC way, meaning throw more money at it.

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Don Haddix: You Need To Tell The Truth

Peachtree City citzens are not stupid, which is why www.PTCPride.org is posting as you blog each fact that you clearly want to twist and spin and for each fact, the supporting documentation which would be the video tape or city council minutes will be posted for citizens to read.

Now as for a few additional truths. When you "stormed off the dias" you said you spoke to the city attorney and that's not true. PTCPride.org has the video and the city attorney said nothing, not even asked the question.

As for speaking to Fayette County on contributions to rec. that amount has already been cut. The city was getting $150,000 4 years ago and that's been cut to $114,000, since you have been in office. Who are you kidding with that statement. The county has its own issues. Now, you are going to do something! Seriously, they already cut the funds while you were mayor.

For the SPLOST, get your numbers straight. First, the numbers given by Mr. Rapson two weeks ago and reported in the papers were $13.3M PLUS $.3M (as PTC share of not needed by county) for $13.6M.

Second, the real number is $14.6M. Mr. Rapson sent an email yesterday saying it was $14.6M. PTC is getting $14.6M. Rapson has emailed Jim Pennington the right numbers too. Check your facts!

What is clearly apparent here, is you take no responsiblity for your own behavior in how you work with city council. You are unable to clearly articulate your thoughts and proposals and clearly all you can do is bully people. That was one charge of the censure. Kim on coucil asked you if you would stop your mean blogging and your response was...or what else.
You can't get along with other people, and you bully with your letters to the editor and blogs. Even today, you are back on the attack, blaming everyone except yourself.

No matter who is elected to city council you will be unable to work with them unless you change and you apparently can not.

Final question, Mr. Mayor:
Since you oppose the $14.6M in SPLOST, (the best deal the city will ever get), and you don't want anymore taxes, and you say the city is $20M in debt, the logical assumption is you must cut. What $20M are you going to cut? Will those cuts help the city and bring it up to the lovely place it was in 2007, before you got on council? Explain how that works. Thank you.

And, please stop with the answer being another committee. Where are you going to cut from our $29 million, the $20 million we need!

Simple answer!

www.PTCPride.org

They is nothing you can deny without a lie!

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Haddix: We've Haddit!

In all due respect Mayor, all of this detailed explanation of your so called "Strategic Plan" is a waste of your time and space on these blogs. The leverage you used in your position to have the taxpayers pay $12,000 for your legal defense for a personal lawsuit against you for running your mouth is all we need to know about your level of concern about the tax burden of the citizens. Instead of using this space to tell us all your grand plans why don't you explain to us, your constituents, how you can take money out of our pockets to fund your personal blunders?
Set aside for a moment all of the other reasons you are bad for this city. This one issue and how you handled it tells us where your loyalties lie and what your moral and ethical gas tank looks like... the needle is on empty.
Want to move past this issue? Pay the $12,000 back to us and we can take another look.

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you are a piece of work. god have mercy on you.

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Haddix: Organization Changes

Can you specifically identify the other changes in other departments that have warranted a savings? Have any of those changes actually cost the City money and NOT improved services (example, IT?)

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On IT. problems with non functioning equipment have been fixed in the Fire Department. So have issues in the PD.

After being postponed for over 10 years, including by the majority on this Council, it had to be done.

In fact, that demand was driven home when our servers died, taking down the email service and more. There was no other solution than replacing The system, it being so antiquated.

I lost emails in that crash that have never been recovered.

Does it cost money? Most assuredly. No way around it.

Is there more to do and still issues, you better believe it. You don't replace a total system overnight while trying to keep the city running.

In 2008 I asked why were we constantly planting annuals instead of perennials? They also required water trucks running the medians to water them. They didn't last year round.

That switch saved a few hundred thousand a year. Now we have at least Fleisch who wants to go back to flowers.

While the changes to the landscapers was not my proposal, it saved over $800K a years. To add it back now would increase costs $600K. Contrary to what some want to claim we are actually getting fewer complaints now than then. The Needs Assessment said the landscaping now was satisfactory or better.

Fleisch wanted all the signage, etc installed new. I talked with the City Manager we agreed update, repair and refresh instead. Looks great and was incredibly cheaper.

As the survey showed, the complaints we are getting now are in Rec., paths and streets. People are tired of paying for non PTC users. In example, your BMX has only 10% of its users living in PTC per City records.

Path and street maintenance was slowed by the majority while Rec spending was increase. Now we are $20K behind in repairs but the SPLOST is only for $13.3 million for five years. At the end of 5 years another $3 million will be needed. The other Imker proposals, based on $1.5 million a years would take 16 years to pay for the already needed $20 million in repairs.

So, yes,the proposals and changes I backed saved the city money without loss of wanted services. Thee additional spending in Rec has cost the taxpayers money.

That is why we have to do the Comprehensive Strategic Plan. There are still more ways to improve and provide services at a lower cost.

We have to stop prioritizing the wants of the few over the vast majority of PTC.

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Haddix: Careful, same last name...

...but definitely not the same first name :)

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You are totally correct and I apologize. My big mistake.

The IT arena has been a burr for both of us for years. It has been for you longer than me.

I am discussing changes with Staff to move the issues in the direction both of us know the need to go. I am finally getting some traction.

Cross your fingers, hope the election goes correctly and then this black hole will actually get fixed properly.

Cathy and I have discussed it numerous times as issues come up. That is a 2 vote right there and I beleive there will be a 3rd.

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Haddix: Care to elaborate?

No worries on the name - just wanted to make sure the wrong person didn't get something attributed to them.

I think the general audience could be interested in hearing the changes proposed? So often, technology is so unsung but vital to operations, but several million dollars in equipment and labor have been proposed. What are the steps you see in technology moving forward, if not in specific details, at least in bullet points/general strategies? Do you have a target for measureable results to show return on the investment?

Would you say that the current outsourcing project was less than optimal? How do you hold management accountable for that?

Good luck!

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Haddix: IT Answers

You don' t ask the easy questions!

I hold a combination of management and Council responsible. On the management side the idea of out sourcing it all was a bad one. While great for other areas, it is a not a total answer for IT. You have to have someone with in house knowledge, hands on experience and immediate availablity.

What we are talking about is having two in house IT experts backed up, at need, with resources from other companies.

The reason being the in house expertise and familiarity plus access to equipment, etc we simply cannot afford in house. As well, in a catastrophic event we have back up to pull in to speed up resolution.

Even with the current status, changes from the desktop residing on individual PC's to virtual servers, then fixing the glitches that always come along, etc requires more than just 2 people. As does switching the telephone system to VoIP.

On the Council side, the majority's desire to eliminate personnel costs and outsource at the lowest cost has been an issue. For those who remember, when we went approve the first contract, Dienhart gave a speech on lowest bids, etc.

Lowest bids are not the way to always go. But we did an RFP anyway.

That proved a big mistake.

The Council Majority also postponed buying software and software upgrades to improve productivity.

As with Records Keeping, it is expensive but the manual input time is far more expensive.

So, would I say the current outsourcing is less than optimal, I will go further to say far less than optional.

I agree on IT being unsung heroes at times. We cannot even do emails without them. Or, even get computer connections to the data needed.

New servers were a must. When they die, they die.

At this time I cannot assign an ROI, that is a very complicated number, as you well know.

I can give some spot examples, such as any of the Records Keeping software, which cannot run on the old servers and platforms we were running.

Trying to connect old platform software data to a new platform can be a nightmare as you know. It usually either cannot be done or does so poorly.

Same in reverse for old software on new systems. Legacy does not always work.

The frustrations Staff is having with software that will not run or run properly is unacceptable. Having to do a work around as well.

I know in a couple of issues that happened when I was at City Hall, I gave a way to make it work. Otherwise they would have been in trouble, not having any level of tech experience.

Bottom line is non or our key Staff are IT trained. Only 3 of us on Council have any claim to technological knowledge of any level. I question the reasoning of 2 on the issue.

Not a pretty picture in a hugely essential area.

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PTC IT: It's not a complicated answer

The IT Dept...whether that's 1 or 2 or 10 people, should have been split away from the Finance Dept of PTC years ago. That function needs its own voice and seat and yeah, authority, at every manager's meeting instead of occasionally. The Finance Director has to worry about uh, financials of an entire city, and expecting him/her to also be a person in charge of IT is rather dumb. You get a person who is an expert in Finance and also IT and PTC ain't going to be able to afford him/her very long. The setup was doomed for failure and never evolved over time when it should have.

I won't even go into how doing things on the cheap like patchwork fixes and temporary shortcuts that are all due to a lack of funding and no authority to enact anything make for problems that aren't solved without a lot of $$$$ later. That's the nature of IT.....you can pay me now, or you can(and will have to) pay me later. A LOT more later.

I think Dienhart understands that and I hope he's got a plan in that regard.

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...and I think we know...

The problem I see, NUK, is it's not Dienhart, or Haddix, or any elected official that should be solving this problem alone.

The problem, as I see it, is a fundamental lack of understanding that IT does deserve a seat at the management table and a position of authority or sway that does not answer solely to the whims of the individual departments. As some are painfully aware, that did not happen. And pay later they do.

Let me be clear - I'm not stating that the author of this was the person who should have been at the table. A position should have been considered to bridge the traditional "data processing" gap that lots of local governments had pigeon-holed IT in. A CIO-type position is needed, just not the "virtual CIO" that PTC tried.

The hardware purchases are definitely needed, and I won't dispute the costs involved there.

When it comes to software and processes, though, there's still a substantial disconnect and autonomy given to each individual department, and no "teeth" to any true enterprise solution. It's still a turf war internally, and the Mayor is right on one fact - there is no one on City staff that has a handle on technology and business together. The overworked Finance director and the inept City Manager decided it best to bring in the "experts" and were caught sleeping.

I ran some numbers...PTC has engaged FOUR different companies since 2012 to assist with IT Management (I'm not counting the phone system, which from what I've heard was well managed and professionally done, as should be expected).

A company with "local government experience" and connections to the City Manager in previous cities got in over their head in what was the largest implementation they had to date in municipal government. A 90 day rollout was promised in a retreat...that took over a year to complete. Company number one was villified by the City staff who were beyond frustrated with poor service and runaround from the outset of their tenure, and yet despite that, a railroad no-bid process was attempted and rejected due to public outcry. Another company was vetted and selected. Unfortunately, the City needed company number THREE to consult with them to get company number one (the over their head company) and company number two (the RFP winner on paper) to play together. Company number two didn't do what was advertised, and most recently, the City has approved company number FOUR to come in and assist in the environment. Management eliminated positions, defunded positions, restored positions and changed job descriptions.

In the process, in my opinion, they OVERSPENT on labor to the tune of nearly $290,000 (if you consider the costs of personnel and professional services in IT as shown in the FY2011 - FY2014 budgets).

And today, what does the City have? Go to the library and see how many computers have out of order signs on them. Try to get a burn permit online. Watch the quality of the council webcasts. I'm not faulting the current company (company number four, as they are appearing to be responsive from what I've heard). Systems that are not compatible with what the City was using. Cart, meet horse. All in all, a plan to replace hardware before considering software and PROCESSES was "not optimal".

And management needs to be held accountable. Other than replacing hardware and getting new systems implemented, what was "broken" in the City wasn't the IT department, it was the management vacuum that Dienhart discusses. That vacuum can't solely be blamed on the "board of directors", however.

Recommendations were made by me and company number one for an IT governance process to start to bring IT to the table and make decisions considering the whole. How is that progressing? I'm afraid it isn't and won't until the culture changes.

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A CIO is part of the reform effort.

He would report to the City Manager. I have never liked the IT trend of IT reporting to Finance, even though it is fairly common. It woutld happen after we get the budget under control.

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mrobinson: Thanks for the details

"From the inside" of having to actually deal with this.

Not a big fan of the current city manager I take it? :)

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I actually do not disagree with you on most of what you said. The only exception is Dienhart does not have a plan. He was the most vocal on getting cheap.

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Haddix Lies Part 4

Source- but of course you dont have one.

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Blah blah blah

Soon it will be over

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No, I'm not

I am a concerned citizen that has figured out how important this election is. I am active in the GOP and tea party. I am a Dienhart supporter, as well as a King and Ernst supporter. The fact remains that Dienhart has been the most impressive of the mayoral candidates by a large margin. Morgan and. Nuk also support him. Are they also dienhart? Are you Logsdon or Haddix?

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Allstar - if I'm wrong

If I'm wrong, I apologize. And no, I'm not Haddix (I write in complete sentences) or Logsdon (he doesn't post here - a plus). I've been lurking here since 2005. Your arrival on this page happened right when Dienhart announced, and since he is campaigning on being civil (which he wasn't when he was on Council, so not sure why he would be as mayor), a second account that can do all his mudslinging isn't a stretch to imagine.

You are correct - this is an important election. Unfortunately, we have a mediocre bunch of candidates at best. The dog-like devotion to Dienhart, especially when others who went to these felt felt he wasn't that great, and the sniping at all the other candidates, makes you about as believable as old pumpkin in my book.

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i am crushed

first person who I thought at least could read and write and you bash me. good luck to you and your choice. mine and the citizens with brains and knowledge of this city will toast you after the election and our win.

Spyglass
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These pretzels are making me thirsty

Had it with Haddix.

Did you get your sign?

LongTimer
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Had it with Haddix.

"Did you get your sign?"
Yep!

Allstar American
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Pandora

So far, you and Peter are the only ones that have said he is not coming out ahead. I am backed up by the straw poll- 5 people on the ballot and Dienhart still got almost 60 percent of the vote. Obviously, I am not the only one. We will need to agree to disagree.

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60% out of how many?

And how many went to multiple events? 60% of 10 people is 6. It doesn't mean you have a majority, it means you have a majority of those who decided they wanted to attend those events.

I didn't attend. I don't support Dienhart. His positions are pandering:

First off - traffic study of 54 West, Candidate Dienhart says:
Dienhart disagreed, saying any study should be funded by the Georgia Department of Transportation instead of the city so state taxpayers and not city ones, are footing the bill.

Well, sure, because it makes sense for taxpayers in Albany and Savannah to fund a study that doesn't affect state wide economic development and transportation. It's a STATE HIGHWAY, not an interstate or true regional intersection. There are MANY ways to avoid 54/74 and 54 West - for example, Peachtree Parkway, Crosstown Road, Fischer Road, Lower Fayetteville Road, Rockaway Road.

And, as an aside, on the 74/I-85 interstate "mess", when I come home work in Downtown ATL, I purposely avoid the 74 mess by exiting at Collinsworth to Tyrone Road to Senoia Road to Crabapple. It's a few more turns, but you're not waiting for 10 minutes at the offramp and Oakley Industrial mess. Sometimes just knowing another way to go can cut 15 minutes or more off of a commute. In the mornings, I'm not sure what folks are whining about. You wait through two light cycles, which is five minutes. If you take those five minutes and just LEAVE EARLIER, you'd be surprised as to what can happen. It's not an issue, folks, and you can't convince me it is, because I drive it too.

Issue Two - hiring a public safety director - Dienhart again opines:

Explaining his concept for the public safety chief’s position, Dienhart said he wants an out-of-town staffer brought in to help resolve issues at the police and fire department.

“The problem is we’ve been slapped with some lawsuits over the past few years, and the way to fix that is through a public safety chief,” Dienhart said, arguing that the departments need a culture change.

So the solution to ineffective government is MORE government? Didn't the current Police Chief come from outside the area? Didn't the current City Manager come from outside the area? How about holding your City Manager accountable for the actions of his department directors? It doesn't matter if you hire from Fayetteville, GA, Fayetteville, Arkansas or Fayetteville, Alaska - quality staffing isn't contingent on being an out-of-towner. A somewhat effective City Manager would go a long way to fixing the culture of the City.

Issue Three - Zero-based budgeting - without specific metrics and strategy, you'll just get the same crap every year you get now. We only have so much money, but magically every year the "original budget" seems to inflate, so things that aren't put in somehow get funded...it's shocking in its regularity.

The culture of an organization starts at the top, and that includes the City Council. The public displays of adolescence shown in the past four Council cycles (Steve Brown era through Don Haddix era) has done a great deal of damage to the reputation and professionalism of the City. The current City Manager does nothing to set the tone for the employees he directs, either. Take a look at the number of retirements and resignations over the past several years and consider some of the factors that can lead to that.

Do us a favor, set policy, hold your managers accountable, and get out of our (the citizens' and staff's) way. Quit focusing on "non-issues", decide on what you want this town to be and then work the plan.

And, no, I don't support Haddix in this election, either (sorry Don - too polarizing).

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Straw poll straw man, Allstar

The straw poll was at a different forum than the one where you claimed Logsdon "screamed" at Haddix. Deinhart screams every time he loses his temper, which is often. Yes, we can agree to disagree -- I'm just not really excited about another mayor that storms off the dais during meetings. And I don't rely solely on this forum for my local political discussions. Fortunately.

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Haddix: Stormed Off

Have to correct yuu here. I didn't get mad and storm off. I left because I recused myself and that means you leave the Dais. The City Attorney advised me to not come back.

I recused and left that meeting because the Censure was an ambush Agenda Iten by Fleisch, Learnard and Imker. They knew Doug Sturbaum would not be at that meeting and I had a meeting the night before, so I had no time to prepare. They added it to the Agenda at almost 5:00 PM the day before, keeping it secret until then, the deadline for any adds.

I gave my reasons for asking for a continuation. They said no and even tried to claim I did not have the right to speak. So, I recused and left.

The next Council Meeting I was prepared and spoke against it, as did Sturbaum. It passed 3-2.

I was censured for speaking against the TSPLOST and the elected promoting it and the EDC who wanted to add Big Boxes to every shopping center and go from the Village Concept to one mall type setting.

The 3 had flipped on their campaign promises and now support Big Boxes.

Citizens were contacting me and outraged.

Dienhart was the only one, in my 6 years on Council, who "stormed off."

He also supported the Censure. Dienhart, Fleisch, Learnard and Imker were the ones who took the illegal actions to reduce my salary.

They lost, had to give back the money, retract the statements and agree to never do it again. Those antics cost the City over $20,000.00.

Logsdon did sue me, but GIRMA and the City attorney rejected his arguments. He dismissed the lawsuit.

The claims of me being the source of the money spent and having no right to indemnification are spouting pure politics. Every elected is covered. Every elected gets sued, including George Dienhart Logsdon. Anyone can sue for ay reason.

Of course Logsdon paid his costs. He was not in office and indemnification does not cover you suing someone else, only you being sued.

Same on the ethics charge4 by Steve Thaxton, Imker's friend and supporter. The attempted causes of action were claimed violations of law concerning the lawsuit by Logsdon, etc. Issues I won on in every case.

So, when Dienhart claims he has and will abide by the law, that has already been proven false.

He tries to claim they could have won. Well, the City Attorney has the case law in hand saying otherwise. He agrees it was illegal.

I agree this group of bloggers attacks everyone who does not agree with them.

As on there one ptc campaign, they continue to invent facts. In example, they say I went into business in 1996 and the State closed me in 2008.

Well, I went into business in 1986 and changed to an S-1 Corp. status in 1996. The business was closed, with the State properly notified in 2006. There is a grace period for incorporation due to trademarks, etc. That ran out in 2008.

The most ridiculous part of this is in 2007 I was running for Council Post 1 and in that Post on Council in 2008.

They are desperate to get Dienhart elected. Have you noted the color scheme of their banner and website are the same as Dienhart's signs?

They say they are registered with GA Ethics. I cannot find their registration.

They also have put signs up without permission. In example, they put one on Scott Bradshaw's property in the County. He told them to take it down as that kind of tactic was offensive. They didn't, he took it down and it went into the trash.

Just giving some clarity on an issue or two. The Chicago style politics are indeed in this election.

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thank you again mr. mayor

I support your hard work and explanation of the hate that is being posted. as we know most will not check the facts. as for mad mike and his accusations concerning your private business, I did not see one source from where he thinks he has the facts so that others can refer to it. thank you for responding and setting the facts right. he just does not understand the hold up and still does not, as he did not accept your explanation nor has he posted a correction. mike seems to have a knack for that..... just leaves it out there without following up. additionally his banner regarding recused and untruthful statements, 'you are the only one', just highlights the pure hate these people come from. I say thank god you won't have to work with them in your next term. we also know mad mike and his club, no "gang" , won't stand up and throw their hats into the ring. they just continue to be activist feeding off one another. I will say at least mad mike can construct a sentence, even if most times it is just vile. of the citizens who do read this without commenting, most know you I think, but your explanations to this gang Is needed because many may not. thank you for your hard work and your past service. even after you take office again there will always be these know it all's who will never make an appointment to come in and discuss issues face to face, it will continue.

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Well, Haddix has the semi-literate vote locked up

Good grief. Have some respect for yourself already or maybe even the candidate you worship like a god; another person who also has trouble composing a coherent letter.

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Latest Haddix lie

MadMike is evidently working SOOOO hard to get Dienhart elected that he said he has a Fleisch sign in his yard.

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