Mayor touts savings, Dienhart wants ‘reform,’ Logsdon cites ‘return to civility,’ Jolly opposes SPLOST

Candidates for the Tyrone and Peachtree City councils face the public Saturday at the Fayette County Library in Fayetteville. From left, front row, are Tyrone candidate Pota Coston and Peachtree City candidates Stephanie Franz, Cathy Haddix (with microphone), Mike King and Kim Learnard. Back row, from left, are George Dienhart, incumbent Don Haddix, Ryan Jolly and Harold Logsdon. Photo/John Munford.

Councilwoman Learnard: "SPLOST a good business decision"; Mrs. Haddix opposes, says PTC must make budget provisions for its own expenses

Four of Peachtree City’s five mayoral aspirants put their ideas up for public consumption in a candidate forum Saturday hosted by several groups at the Fayette County Public Library in Fayetteville.

Political newcomer Ryan Jolly took the stage with former City Councilman George Dienhart, former Mayor Harold Logsdon and incumbent Mayor Don Haddix. A fifth candidate, Vanessa Fleisch, was absent due to a prior commitment.

Dienhart positioned himself as the reform candidate, advocating the hiring of a public safety chief to oversee the fire and police departments and also for the implementation of zero based budgeting to further cut costs. Dienhart was first elected to the council in late 2011, having moved to Peachtree City four years earlier. He resigned his council post in August to run for mayor.

Jolly meanwhile said one of his largest goals is to “bring functionality back to a most dysfunctional government,” noting the biting disagreements and verbal tiffs that have happened at council meetings on more than a few occasions.

Likewise, Logsdon spoke of the need to “return civility to the mayor’s office,” renew an emphasis on ethics and rebuild relationships with the city’s neighbors.

Haddix bragged that he was able to save the city over $1 million a year in increased efficiencies and said the city needs to re-activate its former development authority to seek out small and medium size businesses that can’t be targeted by the county development authority.

One of the more important questions asked was whether the candidates supported the proposed core infrastructure Special Purpose Local Option Sales Tax that will be decided by voters in November. Haddix and Jolly opposed it, while Dienhart and Logsdon favored it.

Most of the city’s projected $14 million share from the two-year SPLOST would go towards road and cart path maintenance to plug an annual $1.5 million gap left by the exhaustion of funds from the 2004 countywide transportation SPLOST.

Jolly said the sales tax is a short-term fix for a long-term problem, saying the city should have budgeted for road and cart path repair instead of hoping for voter approval.

“We know we’re going to use it. We know it’s going to wear out,” Jolly said.

Haddix opposed the new SPLOST, saying it would cost $200 a year to the average homeowner when the city has already raised taxes and needs to “get its house in order first,” instead of issuing a new tax.

Dienhart said the new SPLOST was “a no brainer” because it would cost more to raise the millage rate or take other actions to raise the money. He added that he wanted to use the new SPLOST “as a bridge to sensible budgeting” so such a measure wouldn’t be needed in the future.

Dienhart did not explain what areas of the budget he would cut to get to the annual $1.5 million in savings necessary to accommodate road and cart path repair, but said the budget deserved a look at each line item.

Logsdon said he supports the new SPLOST in part because it is a consumption tax and also because the previous five-year SPLOST allowed for a number of transportation items to be taken care of.

“People don’t come to Peachtree City to live in a second-class environment and we’re going to have to pay for it,” Logsdon said.

The candidates were also asked how they would “solve” traffic on Ga. Highway 54 West.

Logsdon made a case for extending MacDuff Parkway, adding that it wouldn’t completely solve the problem. He noted that while a study of the area seems a bit much, it’s probably necessary.

Dienhart disagreed, saying any study should be funded by the Georgia Department of Transportation instead of the city so state taxpayers and not city ones, are footing the bill.

Jolly said a friend of his who is a road engineer suggested a bridge over the intersection that would allow the existing traffic light at Ga. highways 54 and 74 to be removed.

Haddix said the true solution lies in road improvements outside of Peachtree City, which he contends is “completely bottlenecked” on Hwy. 54 West.

Explaining his concept for the public safety chief’s position, Dienhart said he wants an out-of-town staffer brought in to help resolve issues at the police and fire department.

“The problem is we’ve been slapped with some lawsuits over the past few years, and the way to fix that is through a public safety chief,” Dienhart said, arguing that the departments need a culture change.

Candidates were also asked individual questions that others couldn’t address. During that portion of the forum:

• Logsdon was asked about his management style. He replied that he believes in giving guidance and direction but avoiding micro-managing.

• Dienhart was asked about how to use his role as a regional leader to have a positive impact. He replied that he already has an “excellent working relationship” with other regional officials and suggested he was the only mayoral candidate at the forum who has done that consistently.

• Jolly said part of having a balanced budget means funding “regular maintenance items like roads and cart paths.” He also added that he wants to get more young people involved in the city.

• Haddix said there were areas in which the city could trim costs. He also touted his role with other governments in the region, saying he was friends with the mayors of Riverdale and Union City, for example. Haddix also said he promoted the city at events hosted by the Georgia Municipal Association.

• Logsdon said he supported efforts on economic development because commercial development brings in far more revenue than industrial revenue while new residential development has a negative revenue attached to it.

• Jolly said he did not support a new traffic light on Ga. Highway 54 West to serve a gas station and restaurant which are part of a larger undeveloped shopping center.

Several questions were also asked about county government, despite the fact that the mayor won’t have any jurisdiction over county affairs to speak of, as those powers are expressly delegated to the five-member Fayette County Board of Commissioners.

The candidates were also asked about district voting for the county, another moot issue because not only is it out of their jurisdiction but the issue has mostly been settled with a ruling from a federal judge that requires the county to adopt district voting in lieu of the county’s current at-large voting procedure.

The event was co-hosted by several Fayette County groups including the local branch of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, the local Fayette County Issues Tea Party and the Fayette County Democrat Party.

Forum marked by absenteeism of some council candidates

Several city council hopefuls in Peachtree City joined a counterpart from Tyrone in facing live questions Saturday at a candidate forum sponsored by several groups at the Fayette County Public Library in Fayetteville.

There was a certain lack of fireworks due to absentee candidates, as the only race drawing all competitors was the Post 3 seat in Peachtree City. In that race, incumbent Kim Learnard faces challenger Cathy Haddix, the wife of incumbent Mayor Don Haddix.

While Mrs. Haddix said she opposed the countywide core infrastructure Special Purpose Local Option Sales Tax, Learnard said the option will be up to voters, as she never committed to a position on the sales tax. Learnard did say “a good business case” could be made in favor of the SPLOST.

If Fayette voters shoot down the tax in November, the city will need to find another revenue source for an estimated $1.5 million a year in road and cart path maintenance.

Learnard said the SPLOST would cost the least for taxpayers based on an analysis done by Peachtree City Councilman Eric Imker.

Mrs. Haddix said the city needs to first address its own budgeting issues before taking on more spending through a new sales tax.

Mrs. Haddix argued that the city needs to reinstate its development authority to help get more businesses to come to Peachtree City. She also advocated more citizen involvement “because we have a lot of things that need to be shaken up, so to speak.”

Mrs. Haddix also said Peachtree City has been ranked as the least affordable city among other cities its size in Georgia.

Learnard said she has helped expand economic development in the city and voted for a balanced budget while restoring recreation programs including those for seniors.

At the same time, the city has cut the budget significantly over the past four years to create a sustainable budget, Learnard said, admitting that it lacked road and cart path funding.

“Every department in Peachtree City has been cut to the bone,” Learnard said. “We’ve cut so much that the potted plants in the lobby of City Hall haven’t come back.”

There are seven options that have been devised to solve the road and cart path funding issue, Learnard added.

Learnard said she has showed leadership by remaining positive and working diligently for the city, adding that she is invigorated by meeting with residents on various issues several times a week.

“I like to think of it as I have 35,000 bosses,” Learnard said.

In questions posed to individual council members, Mrs. Haddix said she didn’t think the raises approved for city council members were unreasonable, but later she clarified that she would not pursue a raise while in office.

Responding to another individual question, Learnard said one of the city’s biggest issues is a need to look at its borders to determine how to control growth.

Peachtree City Post 2 candidate Mike King was the only one of three candidates for that seat to appear at the forum, as Shayne Robinson and Austin Chanslor did not participate.

King said he won’t “massage the truth to make things look better” but wants to apply fiscally conservative principles and specifically to resist increasing city debt.

King said he also supports hiring a public safety director to oversee Peachtree City’s police and fire departments, specifically to replace both the police chief and fire chief’s positions.

As for the core infrastructure SPLOST, King argued that roads and cart paths need to be funded from the general fund budget and a SPLOST should be for special projects instead.

“A SPLOST is a crutch,” King said, noting that with a budget north of $29 million the city should be able to fund road and cart path maintenance. “We need to live up to our responsibilities, not abdicate them.”

King also said one of the city’s biggest challenges is bringing amenities to the city so young families come back to Peachtree City, citing how his three children have not come back to live here as adults.

Asked about the largest budget he has handled, King noted that in his work with the Centers for Disease Control, he worked on a pandemic influenza immunization plan that cost more than $300 million.

King also made a pitch for switching city elections to even numbered years which would save $80,000 and increase turnout because it would coincide with presidential elections every four years as well.

The race for Peachtree City Post 4 also resulted in just one candidate appearing, as Stephanie Franz was on hand and challenger Terry Ernst was absent.

Franz, a political newcomer, admitted to being a bit nervous and “green” but said she loves Peachtree City and wants her 4-year-old child to grow up here.

Franz said she wants to get more young people involved in city affairs, saying she felt the recent National Night Out event could have been better attended by families.

Asked specifically if she would approve spending city funds on a college and career academy in Fayette County, Franz said she would, in part because the county needs to attract younger people.

“Bringing a college to town would be a wonderful thing and I would vote yes,” Franz said.

Franz said the city needs to broaden the tax base by bringing in more businesses and finding a way to redevelop neighborhoods that need to be revitalized.

“You can’t have families if you don’t have businesses here to employ them,” Franz said.

Franz said she supports the core infrastructure SPLOST.

Tyrone Post 3 candidate Pota Coston was on hand, while incumbent Ken Matthews did not appear at the forum.

Coston said she wants to revitalize the downtown area, citing a current lack of reasons for residents or visitors to walk or drive their golf cart there.

Coston said the vacant Tyrone Elementary School building could be an opportunity to help the town in that regard. She also wants to see a Livable Centers Initiative plan to help create “a vibrant downtown.”

Coston also noted that the town doesn’t have a budget shortfall, but good business sense is needed in weighing taxation decisions.

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Steve Brown, Dienhart ^& Hutch

You don't know why Hutch made that comment and, judging from your history of not answering his questions, won't ask. And what does "good looking" have to do with raising kids? If you're saying George is a single-parent, why don't you use plain English and say so?

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I think George got an endorsement he does not want

If I were running for office, a Steve Brown endorsement (as unlikely as that would be) is the very last thing on my to do list. The guy is poison and I would not want him near me.

I too think George is also toast because of the silly little lawsuit by the nancy boy, Lane Watts. Not fair, but what you gonna do? Reason he loses is we have silly little voters. That's how Brown and Haddix got in, so be careful for whom you vote.

And a house husband endorsing a male single-parent head of household strikes me as being real strange. I thought we were in Fayette County. Somebody took on and whizzed on Ryan Jolley because he had a job and a young family and probably a wife and said he didn't have time to do the job as mayor because it was full-time (contrary to the city charter). So, being a normal family man is bad and being single parent (George) or a vocal dwarf (Vanessa) or a complete idiot (Haddix) or a part-time drunk (Harold)
is somehow OK? What choices we have for our next mayor.

Last minute today I switched my vote to Vanessa, Terry and Mike (Kim too). I think that increases the composite IQ score on the Dias.

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So Steve..

Are you going to have to run in a district consisting of PTC?

IF so, what are your thoughts?

I along with others find your comments on other candidates a bit out of line.

I assume you'll be fine with speaking of your candidacy considering how quick you are to speak of other's.

What say you?

Crickets

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Dienhart is Done

I realized a few weeks ago when I did a little homework and came to the conclusion that he has been a big part of the problem the last two years. He was blogging up to the point I asked some questions, and then he and his plant, All-Star, went AWOL.

He's a lot of hot air. Check out his paid advertisement in the paper yesterday. It says absolutely nothing. I think his kids did this for him. If he was really any good, don't you think the Republican Party (Tea Party) would have endorced him already?

Anyone who considers him really needs to do their homework and check out the county court records on line to see he doesnt own a home and he has been as much a drain on our court system as the current mayor.

A vote for him will be a mistake.

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Dienhart Arrest

Husband and Father - I noticed your list of questions above for Dienhart that he never answered.
I see why he has stopped posting - you asked some questions he doesn't want aired publicly.
Let's start with the question about his relation to the arrested Dienhart seen in this paper, as you mention at: http://www.thecitizen.com/articles/03-01-2011/law-enforcement-arrest-reports-feb-22-—-feb-28?quicktabs_3=2

A quick google search of the name Tanya Dienhart reveals an open Facebook page with pictures of her and George. Doesn't state relationship, but they obviously appear to be parents of the same children from the pictures - so I guess wife, ex-wife, estranged wife? That February arrest was while Dienhart was an active council member... Interesting that nobody has brought that up before. I wonder what she failed to appear on.

Work experience: very interesting point. Why does nobody seem to know what he does or what his experience is? He looks to be about 40 and have 3 or 4 kids.
He slid in as an uncontested candidate and was never vetted, just as you said above. Now he hopes to slide through here on nothing more than people's recollection of his time on council and the endorsement of Steve Brown.

I'm quite sure he will not see any endorsement for him from the Republican or Tea Party at large, nor from any of the local Marines. Anyone that knows about his time as a local chapter leader care to comment?

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Other legal troubles too

People need to check out Fayette County Court website to see other issues.

Me thinks he needs to concentrate on his job? and kids. We all know the time it takes to be mayor. Staff shouldn't be babysitting or driving his kids to camp like previous mayors, should they? Kids need parents at home to nurture and teach, not stuck at a meeting till 9 at night.

A vote for Logsdon is a vote for Dienharts kids.

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Dienhart Legal Troubles Continued...

Took your advice H&F: Found the website www.fayetteclerk.com
EVERYBODY WHO VOTES SHOULD LOOK AT THIS WEBSITE!!!
Click on the Court Docket link on the left side. Search for the name of each of your candidates in each of the different sections: Civil, Civil Magistrate, and Criminal.

I am not a legal expert, so I won't attempt to interpret any of this, but here are a few things you should look at for yourself and determine the meaning and disposition on there -
Family Violence Ex Parte Protective Order (George and Tanya). What does this even mean?
Dispossessory (Tanya)
Regarding lawsuit against George and Steve Brown et al. - It doesn't show that he has filed a response to the suit filed almost two months ago (09/06). Brown, Richter, Posey, and Murphy have, it says.

I also couldn't find anything on our friend in the property index search, in following what H&F said earlier.

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When I read the arrest reports by PCPD in this very paper

back on July 9th of this year, I predicted and stated to several people whom I guessed would probably be throwing his hat into the ring this election, and he did. And I'm not talking about Dienhart, but another canidate whom is going after eleminating Skip's position.

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Dienhart Arrest II

If his wife was arrested while on council, while the argument can be made don't bring the family into politics, I think it would have behooved Dienhart to explain what happened. Put it out there and that way there is no gossiping or questioning. However, if he was divorced from her at the time of the arrest, I think that's a different story. At that point, she would not be family and her actions would not be relevant. I too have wondered about his background. He is almost as secretive as Donnie Darko about his background. His Facebook page says he served in the Marines from 1985 until 1991 but no work history since then. I think he won the council almost by default to be honest. Again, I don't think he's quite the budget guru some people think and that ad in the paper the other day was almost as embarrassing as his first political picture where he looked like every family's crazy uncle. If he winds up being elected and fortunately it looks more and more like everyday that's not going to happen, I see a train wreck coming at City Hall.

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Borntorun and Dienhart Arrest II

Good points. I'm curious now if this has anything to do with what appears to be a flaming hatred of the Police Chief by George... Some kind of Failure to Appear arrest of his wife. Anybody know an easy way to get the scoop on what kind of run in she/they had with the police in the first place to get to that point?

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Failure to Appear

My experience in Ptc is they have zero tolerance for failure to appear. I will keep this short but it is something to chew on. My son 16 at the time got a parking ticket on the golf cart for parking in the wrong direction.The golf cart was registered to me so the ticket became mine. The $45 dollar fine was scratched out and $100 written in. I studied this ticket only to find out it was only $50 fine to park by a fire hydrant. I was going to court, yes plead guilty but get an explanation on the ticket/fines discrepancy. Well court day appeared and I woke up to a painful and bloody eye. I had lacerated my cornea during the night. Called my eye Doc at home and he said he would come on to the office meet him there. I did, got treated and was told to go home and try not to do anything for 24 hours. I did. Two days later I went to Town Hall to try to reschedule my missed court date. I had medical documentation with me. No can do, " You failed to appear so must pay the fine because a failure to appear warrant has been issued", reluctantly I agreed and pulled out my check book. " No you cant pay by check, it has to be cash $160.00 and pay at the police station. I got back in the car and told my wife we needed to go to the ATM and then the police station. I went and got the money and went in to pay. The clerk said she could not accept the payment an officer would be with me in a few minutes. My older son was in town and he went inside with me. 25 minutes later an officer came out and called my name and I stepped forward. He told me he had been on the phone for the last half hour trying to find someone to block the warrant but no one would, not even the mayor. He said I have to arrest you and take you to the jail in Fayeteville.( ours was closed at the time). He said give the money to Your son because that is how much your bond will be. Just have him follow us to the jail. He can bond you out and it all should take less than one hour. Two officers drove me to Fayetteville in cuffs, I was booked at 10:30 AM and finally released at 5:30. Just an example of the sillines that goes on here. I am over 60 years of age,had a perfect driving record, never been arrested but still I was treated like a criminal. The officers were very nice it was the elected postions, magistrate etc that failed to use common sense. So look hard as I am doing the Dienhart arrest will appear in the paper, need the dates,just got some digging to do

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Dienhart is Done

I am not saying this is fact but it seems all of our local people and their puppets in the running for whatever have mysteriously disappeared from the blogs. Last posting for most of them was 10/24. Maybe due to the embarrassment they were bringing to this election good ole Cal shut them down. Just my opinion

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Dienhart

While I don't have any skin in this election, I can't help but remember how during the last election, George parroted Brown in his half truths, lies, and innuendos. When I called him on one of his statements, suddenly he had no information on that point, and said I wasn't respectful enough. So basically I guess he was a Brownie then and a Brownie now, and a whiny Marine on top of it.

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Hey Hutch

Can you give us Joyce Jones phone number again ? It's that time of year and I have misplaced her number (new phone and all that).

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HAF

That would mean there is only one option ...- ..-.

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SPQR

In my mind, I narrowed down to 2

Haddix and Deinhart - Part of the current problem XXX

Jolly - No experience

Fleish & Logsdon - Just I have to figure out who will provide leadership and provide for what's best for the city.

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HAF

Agree except for one thing.

If we learn from history Harold is really not an option.

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Harold

Sorry, SPQR but I am going to respectfully disagree. Lets agree it comes down to Harold vs Vanessa. The others aren't even worth discussing. I have not seen anything and I mean anything that The Big Hair Lady has done to warrant being mayor. Go back and review the council meetings. A constant stream of putting off decisions and no initiatives to speak of. No evidence of leadership whatsoever. The only thing I've seen regarding her platform is recreation. Having coached in several of the youth leagues, I'm all for rec. But there are bigger issues than rec to deal with and I don't see any evidence of her being the person to tackle them. Is Harold a great candidate? Not by a long shot. But in this field....and remember we can only vote for those who are willing to put themselves in the field, I think he is the best of a sorry lot. Just my opinion....yours may be different and I respect that.

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I too predict a Vanessa and Harold run off

Don't underestimate the backing Harold has in the community. Plus, it would piss off SB.

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Harold/Otis Campbell

George, Mike and Terri for me. I'm not interested in a rehash of the Harold/Otis Campbell days and don't want an unstable Real Estate agent for mayor. With that said I'll stick with my three picks.

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I hear you. It's a conundrum. Take a chance with silent Vanessa or go back 4 years with insider Harold

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Dienhart

I agree with the comments about Dienhart not being the best candidate. I think this whole thing about him being the budget guru on council is way overblown. And his demeanor, while not as volatile as Eric nor megalomaniacal as Donnie, is a cause for concern. I don't think he has the skill set to be a consensus maker and has shown his temper a time or two when someone disagrees with his position. A true leader would welcome opposing points of view if indeed they might be better. But I'm afraid with George, we are going to get Donnie 2.0. Sad to say, there is not a mayoral candidate that stands out in this field. Here's hoping Mike King throws his hat in the ring in the next election for mayor.

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There is only one logical conclusion from your comments

and that is - no experience is the best qualifier. If one (Mr. Jolly in this case) has never been in a leadership position he is free and clear of making all the mistakes or having the personality disorders you describe for the others. Logical, but not how I plan to vote later today. Still going with George, Mike and Terry, but I am fully expecting a Fleisch/Logsdon runoff. I think that lawsuit thing (dirty as it may be) has done its job on George. But who knows, just go vote and attend the Haddix send off party at Y knots or the bar of your choosing. Bring a pitchfork and a torch, but leave them in your car.

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Wrong Conclusion RWM

Not sure how you arrived at that conclusion but you are wrong. If you look elsewhere on this thread you will see that, holding my nose, I'm backing Harold. The only one except for the gnome currently holding the title of mayor that actually has been mayor. Not that Harold is a great choice but given the options he is the best of the worst. I'm sorry but lawsuit or no lawsuit, Dienhart is a loose cannon and not sure we can stand another four years of a loose cannon after the havoc Donnie Darko has wreaked on us. I think Harold will be somewhat reined in by a council comprised of Kim, Eric (ugh...he's gotta go too!), Mike and Terry and will be a one term caretaker until Mike King takes control in the next election. The Big Hair Lady? Sorry but I don't think there is anything under the big hair except air. I mean really...what has she done in her term on council besides kick the can down the road with every single item?

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Right on

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No one stands out

We do have some quality people running for council, so the bottom line is who is best to be the front person to represent the people?

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Will do

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Mr. Dienhart - Will

Will you have answers to my earlier questions concerning the Pubic Safety Director's position?

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really

six years of service. months of campaign before he was ever elected and you don have this information on our mayor's education and more?

I repeat why are you just now asking? guess this group just stands in front of the voting booth like they do their urinal half pointing.

follow the money you fools.

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Follow the money?

Logsdon will wind up out spending everyone, but will still come in under 10k. What kind of foolish statement are you trying to make? Are you saying that Haddix is better than everyone because no one donated to him? Are you making some kind of awkward accusation against Haddix W/ Haddix? They have been completely upfront with their effort.

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DEAR MAYOR

respectfully I ask, please do not respond again on this site. we are there Mr Mayor......I am proud to know you present truthful answers and concern for the future of our city.

see you when you are sworn in Mr. and Mrs. Haddix.

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Haddix: pumpkin

I agree. Having done my own research, using no city resources, on what was stated on the blogs and in several emails to me, I have verified too many accusations against some members of ptc pride are true.

Such as Larry Sussberg saying his property is not for sale. Yet here says it is:

http://www.bizbuysell.com/Business-Opportunity/Huntington-Learning-Cente...

Also I was told he no longer lives in his home in Planterra. In the whitepages he is shown living in an apartment.

Others said he is planning on moving to SC. That cannot be verified, but the other items do beg the question.

Larry has history with me from his actions on the Planning Commission that led to his resignation. He has never gotten over it.

Sussberg has every right to live in an apartment, sell his business, move, etc. But at least be honest about what is going on.

Too many contradictions and outright lies going on here to be able to have a real discussion on issues.

The election is 2 weeks away. That will end a lot of this nonsense.

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Larry Sussberg did live in Planterra back when he was on the Planning Commission. I accept the fact he moved.

A correction on my part where he lived prior to the apartment.

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BANNED for repeated violations of terms of service

BANNED for repeated violations of terms of service

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Larry, you bonehead

You got banned recently before under your real name for getting over-heated one night and then come back in with a second ID and admit to who you are. What are you thinking here? Oh wait, I guess you can't answer that question.

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The absolute, God's honest truth from da mayor

Here is his quote:
"The election is 2 weeks away. That will end a lot of this nonsense."

Of course all the stuff about Larry is untrue (and none of his business, BTW), but I love the quote about the election.

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irony

Yep, even more funny is that Haddix fails to see the irony.

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PTC Citizens: Read & Learn About Mayor Haddix

Don:
Let's recap since on your post here you have now called me DISHONEST.
I've lived in the Pennisula and I was fortunate to receive a private offer on my house just after my daughter left for college so I decided to privately sell it. For retirement planning I purchased a home in downtown Charleston SC and decided to rent in Peachtree City. I own the Huntington Learning Center Peachtree City and have other business interests in Charleston SC along with assisting the College of Charleston in their 3 year old MBA program. I commute between SC and GA. and I am a resident of GA.

The biz/buy/sell ad you are referring to is not my ad or business broker. Huntington Corporate works with a network of brokers to identify new locations for new centers. $25,000 is the initial franchise fee to own a new center. Whenever one of their centers approach and maintain a certain sustained sales volume, they look for additional locations within 10 miles. Mine is the only one on the south side of Atlanta.

However, none of this is RELEVANT TO DISCUSSION and I definitely thought you would have learned fron your last defamation law. Calling me DISHONEST, well you might as well called me PART DRUNK.

As for the planning commisson situation, I resigned when you emailed me about a statement I made to a married couple during the cell tower discussion at a planning commission meeting. This couple stated in an open forum that they were assured by elected officials that no cell towers would be placed in a small park in their neighborhood off Lake Kedron. This was right after the NorSouth meeting when you told the executives they could pursue the project but it would never pass council. That statement you made absolutely biased that developer's right to due process so they sued. Yes for Federal Housing Discrimination but that was the weapon they selected because of the statement you made. For years now you have denyed this claiming it was a Federal Housing Discrimination suit but city staff and council were there and witnessed it. Of course Brandon Barr can confirm this as well.

So, back to the planning meeting and my resignation...You were new, and clearly in the height of speaking out of turn and trying to micro-manage everything, contrary to the repeated warnings of council and the city attorney. So, when you contacted me so quickly after my public comment which was 100% accurate yet, after a few email exchanges, with copies to John Mumford because I knew all along you would not tell the truth on this incident, I resigned calling you an "idiot".

Like the NorSouth situation, you have chosen to lie about why I quit but you can check the planning minutes and read the question was raised by this married couple and my public response back which was "if any elected official gave you that assurance they are disrupting the "due process" of that developer and putting the city a risk". That's what I said and its public record, and its 100% accurate and true.

The proof and truth is in the minutes and video of the meeting. As for the email exchanges when I quit, I also wrote my opinion of you calling you an "idiot" which The Citizen published.

Don, before you consider the possiblity of fabricating some other reason regarding planning commission, I warn you that I have copies and John Mumford was copied on each and every email!

You are correct in stating I have a problem with you. It is my continued opinion that you are still an "idiot" and that is supported by 4 years of your administration which includes lawsuits, both public and private, your behavior on this blog, letters to the editor bullying and attacking city council members, all of your PUBLIC behavior.

What is published on PTCPride.org is factual and based upon PUBLIC record. It's your public history, not mine.

Unfortunately Don, your normal and consistent behavior pattern when challenged on your PUBLIC ideas, PUBLIC behavior, and PUBLIC past is to twist and turn on the facts by trying to re-write what happened, and then, when all else fails you attack the messenger and you do not it by trying to personally discredit them in public. PERSONAL

It is my pleasure to engage in this dialogue with you. To expose to everyone reading this post so they can see you for what you are who you are. You have taken my private life and placed it on PUBLIC view and called me DISHONEST in an attempt to discredit me in some way. Meanwhile the facts on PTCPride.org are fact, PUBLIC fact.

Ultimately, smart people will see through this, actually I think most in the city have already. You have employed these tactics on many many people, too many to name.

Do we want 4 more years of this?

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Well

hopefully it will end with you continuing to not post as MAYOR of Peachtree City. Which I see you have removed from this posting..good job...

Now only if you had listened to some of us over the last 4 years, you might have had a better chance in this upcoming election.

An apology and a repayment of the 12K would have worked wonders. I am still not sure if that would have overcame your constant meddling/arguing/instigating with others in regards to PTC business that you really had no place in.

Best of luck in the future.

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None of Sussbergs info

is relevant here. Yes, it should end with your epic loss. Can't wait.

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Sworn into what, pumpkin?

Are they joining the police force? The Army? The clergy? Need to do something after January.

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Peace Corps

I hope. Take them far, far away.

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Haddix

It appears on just this 2+week thread you may have "crossed the line" with your comments on Huntington, Mr. Grisham and AmericanPatriots. I'm sure there are more, and we know over the past 4 years there are atleast a dozen by my records.

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Haddix: DAPC

Mayor Haddix:

You have made the claim here several times that the citizen's back the re-establishment of the DAPC. I have asked you just as many times to please show us what data you have that supports this claim. Or is this another one of those, "a bunch of people called me and emailed me."

Since you have no problem pontificating at length on any question that you think you can answer, why would you be silent on these others?

Should we interpret the fact that you will not answer this simple question as proof that you do not have anything that supports your claim and it is just another fabrication? It is the only explanation.

Mike

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Mayor Haddix: Education?

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Mayor, still waiting on an answer here.

You stated below that at the Forum in Fayetteville, you gave detailed answers on your education, where you attended, where you graduated from. As you remember, I was at the forum as well and remember this question being asked but don't remember your answer being this specific. I have asked you three times now, can you repeat that information here for the citizens (i.e. answers on your education, where you attended, where you graduated from.)

On a scale of 1 - 10 on the difficulty level, this should be a 1.

Mike

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Detailed Education from Donnie's websie

Copied and pasted with no edits, what do you guys and girls think?

Having bee hammered by someone with a good argument, here is my background.

Helped my parents create and run a store that lasted over 30 years until they retired.

Graduated Naval Cryptography school in 1970. We attended 7 days a week, 8 hours a day for 52 weeks a year.

Completed advance training over the next 3 years while working in Intelligence.

Attended 2 years at University of Maryland studying Civil Engineering and Business, with some law courses mixed in. Unable to finish due to family emergency that force me to move back to Indiana.

In the steel mill I took hours of machinist training to better myself. That resulted in my promotion to Supervisor.

Supervisor of $100 million mill facility at Burns Harbor until injured. Surgery did not allow me to continue.

Owned my business for 20 years doing all aspects.

Designed, sold and serviced carbide, diamond and hi speed steel tooling.

Consulted for production and custom manufacturing operations.

Distributed for tools in companies from US, Canada and Europe.

Customers in multiple states, Canada and South America.

With GMA and the Carl Vinson Institute I have 204 credits, which is over 150 hours of class time. Also I have done online courses, ARC offerings, etc. All related to governmental learning, since I am an elected. That means I have earned the top certification and recognition of 'Distinguished'.

Certification to be on a Downtown Development Authority and am fully trained for a Development Authority (they are different).

Also have a few certifications hanging the wall of my office at City Hall and some at home.

That has resulted in several initiatives within the city that have benefited us.

Trained and certified as a Georgia Annexation Arbitrator. We make legal decisions on disputes between cities and counties. Another class situation involving GMA, Carl Vinson, DCA and State officials.

That has resulted in creating our Future Land Use Plan and headed off a probably objection by the County to annexing the 4 parcels.

For kids, I held five NRA certifications in shooting that allowed me to train and certify shooters in multiple areas. I created an Olympic level competitive program via 4-H and became a certified national pistol coach. My guys took multiple gold medals in an international competition.

I value learning and have no plans to stop learning.

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It's not Haddix's education

It's Don himself and his ego/alleged leadership/arrogance/attitude, not his educational background. I have two degrees myself and that gets you in the door at a lot of places, but it's what you do once you get there that's important and truly matters. A track record speaks volumes more than whatever else you have going for you.

Any jackazz can get a degree from somewhere these days and maybe either get certified in something that isn't too rigorous or bluff their way through it. With Haddix, it's about results, not whether he graduated from Harvard or never attended post-secondary anything. There are better issues to go after Haddix on than this one.

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Nuk, i agree with you. After all a degree is just a piece of

paper; and these days you can get that piece of paper without ever entering a university. I have worked with people who had all kinds of degrees and did not have the sense to come out of the rain.Give me a person with good common sense and a moral compass any day. If I am not mistaken Mr. Truett Cathy is a fine example of what a person can do, with or without a degree (I do not know if he has one or not). What ticks me off on this site is all the school yard stuff you see. As I have said before it reminds me of those elementary school bullies circling the unpopular kid and goading and goading trying to get a response and when they get that response "It's see,he can't control him/her self-- it's all his/her fault". We should be above that. I shudder to think what someone who is anticipating a move to the area thinks if they check out this site. The ones who do not look like bullies look like buffoons. I think if I were looking to relocate, I would run, not walk away as fast as possible from this area. Thank the heavens that the election is fast approaching and maybe then we can get back to just being semi-normal people jerking each others chain for the fun of it--no malice, no hatred, just good, healthy fun and the ability to be serious when the situation calls for it. Or am I only dreaming?
Now I am getting off my soapbox and enjoying this beautiful day--hope you are able to do the same. Have a good one.

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We agree to a "Degree"

I, too, join your appeals for comity on this forum (and throughout civilized society at large). Reasonable people share opinions without any compulsion to denigrate persons who advance other points of view.

I would guess that most have had the experience that you cite:

MYTMITE wrote:

I have worked with people who had all kinds of degrees and did not have the sense to come out of the rain.

However, I firmly assert that I have had many more dealings with people devoid of educational attainments who lacked basic practical intelligence. Diplomas do not ensure pragmatic skills; however, they usually denote an ability to achieve a structured goal within reasonable time frames. I see value in this accomplishment.

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agree nuk

Just answering a question for someone, this was my expaned post to RWM

It was late, I was tired. Did not take the time to do a decent post. Thats why I have not thrown my hat in the ring. Education is important but common sense more so. I want someone that knows something about finance and accounting, someone that makes mistakes, learns from them and can own up to them. I want a mayor with a personality that is warm and friendly and can get along and reason with most folks. That person must also realize that my way or the highway is a dead end street, you may not agree with the majority, but open your mind and give it a try. We do not need an Obama type dictator and liar in the office of mayor. We have had four years of this and do not need anymore. As far as age we agree, someone who has been around the block a few times and has attended the school of hard knocks. Property owner? I think a being property owner vs renter would help because he has a stake in the outcome of his or her city. Arrest record is important, but like in my case 21 years old in 1968, headed to Viet Nam got caught with a joint in Texas. It was a felony. It is gone now but I always own up because you never know when it will bite you in the butt. Sex crimes, domestic violence, mental illness we have no place in government for this. Thank you for all of your postings and hopefully in a few days we will clean house and keep it clean!

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madmike thank you for stating you do not want to serve

from idiot (sorry to say) to stupid. you state you vote, how in the hell did you not know the answers to these and other questions before you voted in the last election. your claim to fame and "know it all" just ended. even the people who post here at least just woke up to you. go back to your hate website you support, well, after these stupid remarks and questions you are asking, I think you know what they will (or not) say to you,...I say you have gone from idiot to just plain stupid.

mad mike thank you for stating you do not want to serve.

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Good Evening Ms. Pumpkin

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That's not really what I said, but Okay, I don't want to serve. Since you find that so offensive, how are you serving?

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Mayor Haddix education

Haddix won't answer your question about his education because he knows you would check it out and prove he is lying!

He has been asked that question several times and has never anwered it.

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Correctomundo American Patriots

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Yep, you nailed it. Don has three choices on this education thing...

1. Tell the truth (embarrassing)
2. Tell a lie (he knows we can prove him wrong and yet another lie)
3. Avoid the issue and hope it goes away

Right now I say the Mayor is solidly at #3.

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Haddix: Question for You, madmike

I see MYTIMITE talking about Huntington. I do see it is actually for sale, but I thought Larry Sussberg owned it, not you.

She also brought up to Allstar some serious legal issues among your group. Can you clarify that for me as well?

I have answered a lot of questions for you and would appreciate some answers in return.

Also some push to get answers from Dienhart first, as I stated below.

Fair is fair.

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Haddix: Ah, but there is a difference!

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Really Don? Okay, let's walk through this together so you will understand, okay?

You state "I have answered a lot of questions for you." But you haven't sir. In fact you refuse to answer ALL of my questions (save one) and most of the questions of others. Education, DAPC, Joey Grisham, (watch folks, he will ignore the first two and try to explain Grisham) and the list goes on. The ONLY question you have answered straight forward that I have asked is the whole Annexation Arbitration one.

Then you say, "I would appreciate some answers in return." But here is the difference Don and listen carefully because this is really important. I AM NOT RUNNING FOR MAYOR, YOU ARE! Did you get that part? So we aren't in a tit for tat situation. You are holding yourself out there to be elected as leading all of the citizens of Peachtree City asking us to trust you with the decision of our money, our lifestyle our children's lifestyle and more. We get to ask the questions, not you. That's why you may notice at most of the forums you attend, there isn't a "Candidate Ask the Audience Part of the Program." Did you ever notice that?

Now, in terms of Mytimite and her comments to Allstar, I went back and read that. What part of her comments bring up "serious legal issues." Geez Don, where do you get this stuff? It's too funny, you can't make it up! It seems to me all she is saying is that she thinks it is ethically or morally wrong to ask you or any candidate about the relationship one has with their children. That was the question AllStar asked of you, and if you will notice I told AllStar I thought that was out of bounds when he asked it, and agreed with MITE when she called him on it. So you take the ONE issue I have actually defended you on here on the blogs, and want to call me out on it. What color is your Kool-Aid Don. Take it back, it is poisoning your brain!

JUST PAY US BACK THE $12K YOU TOOK FROM THE TAXPAYERS

Seriously, I can't say it enough, I have HADDIT WITH HADDIX
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Haddix & Huntington

Actually, I own the Huntington and there are 6 Huntingtons in the metro Atlanta area and 2 are actively for sale. The 2 for sale that are continually using brokers, who are advertising them. Both are coming to the end of their 10 year franchise agreements and are at an age where they do not want to renew for another 10 years. Both centers are profitable and since they have 24 months remaining on their agreement now is the time to sell.

When mine goes up for sale it will be when I decide to retire. Meanwhile we are 3 years out from renewal and luckily thanks to PTC parents who are committed to education and after 7 years we have a strong referral rate based upon strong performance so business is good.

Although I am not obligated to answer any questions about my business, I have answered yours openly. I am not running for public office and the state of my business affairs should not be of anyone's concerns. It has no relevance to this conversation.

Now, I have 2 questions for you? With all of my questions or statements centered on your public performance ONLY and the fact that I am a private citizen and on more than 1 occasion I have warned you about crossing the public and private line.

1-Should I assume that you are in someway trying to hurt the Huntington business by in appropriately bringing it up for discussion in this blog?

2-Tell me the relevancy that my business has in the discussions concerning questions and statements of documented facts as it relates to your re-election for mayor?

I see that you have removed the Title of Mayor this time but twice before you didn't which I carefully documented on the PTC email system to you and council.

So, please answer my questions now, not MadMike's since I am not MadMike.
Thank you

Oh, in case you want to ask, I have an MBA from Syracuse University. I graduated 2nd in the class and received auto enrollment in Syracuse's Law School with the first year waived because of the emphasis placed on UCC at Syracuse.
So, the Law, especially business law is hobby. Recently libel and defamation have interested me.

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Education vs Behavior

Honestly, I couldn't care less about a person's education, but I do care about behavior....and as a citizen, I'm growing increasingly embarrassed.

Why is he fighting with private citizens on the blogs? Especially using the Title of Mayor.

Maybe I'm over reacting, but he's naming names and dragging people by name into this situation. Isn't this a liability for PTC?

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Haddix: Once Again

Responses that some of the bloggers do not want others to read have been driven down, even off, the page.

So, to see the many details, answers and information I have posted, please search the page, and following pages, for:

Don Haddix

That will take you to the posts.

Thanks for reading.

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For a more accurate accounting

For a more accurate accounting one may simply search for "lies"

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Haddix: Question on Education

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Mayor, one of the things you said in your answer to me on the Annexation Arbitration question (and thanks for that information by the way) was:

"can honestly say none of the Council Candidates or other Mayoral Candidates have taken education as seriously as I have."

...which brings up a good question. Can you enlighten the citizens on your education? I have seen that question raised several times here on the blogs over the past couple of years and I know you were asked it at the forum in Fayetteville. I was at that forum as you know, but really couldn't ascertain exactly what you were saying. That's probably my fault. Can you review? Something about college in Chicago for two years or something. What University was that and what years did you attend? The other candidates are front and center about their education and military experience and you really haven't clarified it. I think it would help if you would.

If I missed it somewhere (it's not on your website that I can find) just send me the link?

Thanks...

Mike

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Haddix: You are Correct

I gave detailed answers on my education, where I attended, where I graduated from, career experience, etc.

On Chicago, you need to talk to Dienhart, as that is his political learning background.

Having answered all your questions, those of Citizen_Steve, Scott Bradshaw, etc, it is notable you have not pressed Dienhart for his many avoided answers to relevant question. Including the forum you indicated.

Time for you to press him for answers he has refused to give to date. Then get back to me if you have any more.

Fair is fair. He is a candidate for Mayor as well, with a lot of secrets I could answer, but won't. Get him to divulge them. He is hiding some things.

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Education question

Donnie you are scared to be caught in yet more lies that's why you write paragraph after paragraph pussyfooting around. You have proved you are a liar now prove you have more than a high school diploma. Or maybe you don't have a degree. You are a trash talker, liar, simpleton and you cannot love this city by continuing to post as Mayor. I would write in a vote for Dufus before I would vote for a living Haddix. Good night to you and Pumpking

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Haddix. You have not answered all questions

Haddix- There is a list of 15 policy questions- you know the important questions, that you have not answered. You also have not answered all of Citizens Steve's questions on your relationship with your children. If you cant maintain that, how will you maintain any kind of relationship with people who I would think are less important to you? I'll add some more for you to not answer. Why did your business go out of business? Why have you constantly presented your self as a mediator to back up your ability to negotiate, while hiding that it is a political appointment? Why have you not been able to work with council to get even 1 thing done? Why did you join the local GOP and now say you are an independent? Is this more evidence that you cant work with others? Why doesn't anyone display your signs? Why are you always the one guy in the room that goes negative? Can't you say anything positive or formulate a plan for the city?

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Allstar American, I believe you have the right to ask a

candidate where he/she stands on the issues or their background that makes them a candidate for the position they are seeking but I feel it is overstepping when you ask a candidate about their personal relationship with their children. Are you asking this same questions of all candidates? There are bloggers on this site who have been cited for domestic violence (not you as far as I know) and yet they feel the right to question someone else's relationship with their children. I feel anything to deal with a candidate's family should be off limits unless a law has been broken or there has been some type of violence, or something that would be detrimental to the city. I have no idea whether the sitting mayor even has children and I feel it is no one's business if he has or has a relationship, good or bad with them. I feel the same about all the candidates. Some of the nicest people I know have had trouble with their children, sometimes resolved, sometimes not. I know when a candidate decides to run for public office he/she leaves themself open to the public, but some personal things are not the business of outsiders. Like someone much smarter and better than me said "He who is without sin, let him cast the first stone." And I am not so perfect that I feel I can question anyone else's personal relationships. Just my feelings.

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I agree MYTMITE

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as I said before, relationship with one's children should be off limits. Just not relevant to the discussion.

Mike

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He likes me, he really, really likes me!!! MM agrees with me on

something. I knew deep down he was as madly in love with me as I am with him. Hey Mikey, I saw a Huntington Center was for sale--are you selling out so you and I can take the cash and run off to Acapulco and spend our final days in the sun drinking margaritas or mai tais??? Better hurry I am not getting any younger.

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Mite

The mayor is being critical of another candidate not answering every single question and then said he answered Citizen Steves questions. He didn't. He skipped that. He also should not be critical of those not answering every single question when he has refused to answer over 20 questions by my count. Lets also not forget that he has lied on a great many that he did answer. The mayor should stop throwing stones if he doesn't want to be treated the same way in response. I am merely treating him as he treats others.

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Candidates

Can you link us to your respective resumes, or better yet, just copy and paste it here. That shouldn't be so difficult.

Just put your name in the subject line with "resume"

If I am going to hire you I want to know your past experience, education and measurable successes.

Thanks - PTCO

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Resumes?

It appears, we're just not going to get any.

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Mayor - Please clarify Education

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I know you mentioned it in the forum but as I said, I didn't catch it and I don't remember you stating the school or the years and where you graduated from.
I was asking for you to clarify it again. It wasn't in any of the articles (including this one) about the forum.

Thank you...

Mike

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Mr. Mayor - I agree for once

Wondering if one candidates beef with the police has anything to do with a personal vendetta.

Not that I am voting for you, but it certainly is an elephant in the room.

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Haddix: Sorry

I won't answer that question for him. He has to respond.

As for who you vote for, it is always the individuals choice.

I saw you were looking at Logsdon, but having been on Council with him, I saw him allow arguments between citizen and citizen and citizen and Staff. More than once he would argue with citizens.

He would call people liars from the Dais.

He supported the rezoning from industrial to commercial at Wilshire. Now it sits there partially developed with empty retail all over the city.

He supported the Line Creek Big Box with traffic light.

He supported lifting the moratorium on multi family for planning for an extremely high home desnity on Wieland's 88 acres.

He supported Callula Hills by the Airport.

He supported annexing in Southern Pines for another retail center.

He has stated he is running again on retail development. So he will be right back at it again.

At least once a week he was at the capital politicking for a State run.

I resigned to run against this kind of Mayor. If you support that, it is your choice. But it is a wasted vote. People have not gotten over him as Mayor.

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Thanks for sharing, it wouldn't be right coming from you

Not sure who I am voting for yet.

Wish it were as straight forward as Kelly Drive.

Unfortunetly, its more like Peachtree Parkway.

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Haddix, I support a PTC strategic plan

but you are certainly not capable of advancing any strategic plan or an intelligent budget.

You had six years to get a plan in place, but your lack of leadership and constant infighting with the council members made it impossible for any of them to support you.

You were dead meat after the council censured you and they haven't wanted anything to do with you or any "plan" you came up with since then.

The needs assessment was a joke and none of the council members supported the wasted money that you spent on it.

I was at the meeting when the survey was presented and not one of the council members showed any interest in your silly survey. The fact that none of them had any questions about the survey after it was presented should have told you they had no interest whatsoever in it. Two council members told me they just went along with you on the survery just to shut you up!

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Haddix: Agnedas

The Councilmembers didn't support doing the Survey or its results. They disregarded the rejection of what they were doing and went ahead with their own agendas.

They did not support a Plan and you don't hear any of the Mayoral Candidates supporting one either. Every one of them have their own perosnal agendas with no interest in listening to the citizens.

Dienhart wants to dismantle the PD. He came on Council trying to strip it down, from reducing vehicle counts and replacements and more, and was rejected 4-1. That will never fly in PTC.

Plus he flip flops all over the place. Like with the 54 light. He was for a Big Box development with a light right up until he declared, then he changed? Why, Steve Brown opposes it.

Way to much party politics that we don't need, Mr. Republican Party Treasurer.

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Haddix: What's and Agnedas?

Let's follow your logic above. So you put five people in a room to make a decision of either A or B. Four say the answer is A and one person thinks it's B. So in your mind it is perfectly logical to state that the answer must be B.

Who thinks like that all the time?

HADDIT WITH HADDIX
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Haddix, Please Stop

Do you really think this is how the mayor of Peachtree City should be behaving?

I understand your implusiveness but you need to take a deep breath and step back a minute because you are looking really bad, not to mention completely embarrassing yourself with inaccurate statements and attacks. It's reaching a very uncontrolable level.

Get a grip and turn off your computer and focus your campaign.

Enough already. Stop and reflect.

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Daily Haddix lies

I have asked you to provide proof that Dienhart supported a light several times, you don't provide it because you are lying. Again. Dienhart never tried to dismantle the police department either. The vote you referred to was for one motorcycle that was purchased outside the normal budget process. Another lie. I have also asked you multiple times to provide evidence that council does not support a plan. Silence again. Why? Because you are lying. You mean AP is a dues paying Republican. Like you are? I even saw you at our county convention. But then again these are smart people that saw through your lies and wanted nothing to do with you. They realized that you provide nothing positive and that you only showed up in a disastrous attempt to reconcile with the tea party. How did that go? Not a single person in either party supports you. Go away, your disastrous term is nearly over.

It's spelled agenda.

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Haddix: Dienhart Light Support

You actually have not asked me before. Now that you have, Dienhart thought he escaped that bullet by deleting it from his Blog. Anticipating him doing that, I copied it. You can find it here:

http://donhaddix.com/showthread.php?t=219

The rest of your post is repetition.

Also, neither you or Dienhart have answered other questions asked of you yet.

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No dienhart support of light

Haddix caught in another lie. Nowhere does it say he supported a light. STOP LYING!

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Haddix: No Light, No Big Box

Plain and simple. That was explained at the Council Meetings by the developer, Logsdon and crew, but strongly objected to by the public in 2008 and 2009.

Yet Dienhart was in full support.

Read the attached copy of his blog post dated October 12, 2012. He was still supporting it. Nobody with any level of understanding of the Line Creek CCD proposal can say Dienhart could support the Big Box but not the light. He never had one word of objection the light because he knew without it there could be no Big Box. The light was approved in 2009.

Also, there never was a Kohl's actually presented to Council in any documentations, as they were already signed onto Fischer. It is now a dead project there.

Also, in 2012, he was calling the proposal an annexation! That property has been in PTC for decades.

The Citizen link in that topic also covers his TIF/TAD proposal, which, as I explained elsewhere, is a tax increase proposal. Read what Mike King and moelarrycurly said about that proposal.

I have documented the facts. There was no lie from me.

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Haddix: No light, no big box

Haddix is a consumate liar!

Dienhart never said anything in favor of another light on Hwy 54.

Fortunately for the citizens of PTC, Haddix has had it in 15 days.

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Haddix: What's he hiding?

Where's your detailed resume?

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Big Box Phobia & Time To Reconsider

Dear New Mayor and New Council Members:

It's time for our elected officials to get over the Big Box phobia that exists primarily among our politicians only.

30 years ago, these retailers were called ANCHOR STORES and they were built mostly at malls. In the 1960's they were built in strip centers like the ones we have in Peachtree City. That's where we have K Mart, Target, etc.

Developers and small retailers know that its pays to be located in a center with a great anchor store and/or big box.

Not all big box stores are the same, especially when you mention the name KOHL'S.

Kohl's started by the Kohl brothers in Wisconsin has evolved from a small regional discounter to a national small mid-priced department store chain with a focus on apparel.

Peachtree City needs to look at each BIG BOX without fear to determine if they would enhance the community plus attract and help small retailers. Yes, that's correct, attract and help small retailers. Many franchises today require that the franchisees locate their stores in strong centers with national retailers because they enhance overall center & store traffic. The more people who shop at the Big Box brings more people into the smaller retailer.

What's nice about Kohls is they do more research than most retailers on the communities they want to be in. As a result they sign 10+ year leases and commit to that community with extensive community service.

Being anti BIG BOX is antiquated and totally out of date.

Each BIG BOX needs to be reviewed on their own merits and contribution.
Spending time traveling through our strip centers, it's easy to see that we have very few independent apparel retailers with the exception of The Avenues. Also, apparel manufacturers have successfully restricted their distribution for years, case in point KOHLS, they carry CHAPS by RALPH LAUREN but not RALPH LAUREN. Each situation should be looked at individually not some silly statement that we do not want BOG BOXES.

Realizing that we have SteinMart on 1 side of the city who is also apparel related, having a KOHLS on the opposite side would not hurt Peachtree City with the exception of auto traffic that needs to be further studied.

Further, an independent council of Peachtree City retailers could work with our economic development manager assigned to FCDA to provide advice.
Currently there is nothing in place outside of politicians mouthing off!

KOHLS would have been an asset to our citizen in terms of offering apparel to our citizens, lower car traffic than a supermarket or a gas station like RACTRAC and based upon the size of the shopping center in question, small retailers would "fight" to be one of the 4 ot 5 to locate next to a KOHLS. It would also help the retailers around KOHLS in other centers next store or across the street, of which I am one.

It's time to sstart being smart on the idea of BIG BOXES and pick and chose the retailers that enhance our city. It's time for smaller retailers to advise our economic development manager and move this away from silly politicians.

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No light and Haddix is still a liar

Again, no light is mentioned. You also are over simplifying a TAD. You, btw, have not said what you would do to fill those lots. Oh, we already know. Absolutely nothing. Just like the last 6 years. One last thing.
PAY BACK THE 12000 dollars you stole from the citizens.

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Listening to the citizens

You will have an opportunity to listen to the citizens on November 5th. Just 16 days from now, but I don't think you will like what they say!

Mr. Repulican Party Treasurer,
Jim Richter

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madmike,

I guess I originally posted this in the wrong place and Mike did not see it.

Signs - just the facts

"If you look at the signs throughout the city, the HADDIT WITH HADDIX signs outnumber the Don and Cathy signs 50 to 1. In fact, other than in Dover Square where the Mayor and the mrs. live, I have only seen one Haddix sign, in a public area at the corner of 54 and Sumpter Rd. Is there anyone in the city that is brave enough to put up a Haddix sign in their yard? Tell me where."

Your statement is not fact. I am not sure where you looked at in Dover Square for Haddix signs, but their signs have been in my Dad's yard before your post on 10-18.

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