Signal timing to help Hwy. 54W traffic, but DOT wants ‘real fix’

Clogged afternoon traffic on Ga. Highway 54 West might get a little better in the spring as state officials plan to upgrade the signal timing with a new system that will “adapt” as traffic conditions change.

The new “responsive signal timing system” will collect live data from traffic sensors in the road, and switch between various light timing cycles when traffic volumes on the highway reach certain levels, DOT officials told city representatives in a meeting last week. Each signal timing plan will be pre-programmed into a master control system that can be hosted remotely, with a fallback timing plan in case any sensor wires are cut during construction.

It could be as late as March before drivers will be able to see a difference, if they can distinguish any improvement at all, officials cautioned.

While state transportation officials have cautioned that the timing improvements will only go so far, they say the new system will provide data that can be helpful in conducting a traffic study of the highway aimed at divining necessary road improvements in the future.

And that is where the political hot potato lays. Mayor Don Haddix has vigorously opposed the traffic study, saying there’s not much more that can be done beyond adding a “cloverleaf” intersection at Hwy. 54 and Ga. Highway 74. Likewise, former council member and mayoral candidate George Dienhart has said he opposes spending city money on the project, which is what it will take to get the traffic study rolling. Mayoral candidate and current council member Vanessa Fleisch has said she supports funding such a study.

The new signal timing project, however, will be free of charge to the city, funded with money from the Atlanta Regional Commission which has expanded the program to help improve traffic flow in the 10-county metro Atlanta region.

DOT officials have said a traffic study is necessary to get any construction improvements funded in the regional traffic improvement program, as right now the county’s main project for such funds is the widening of McDonough Road from Hwy. 54 east of Fayetteville down into Clayton County.

The city reached out to the Georgia Department of Transportation several months ago and without Haddix’s blessing, Mayor Pro Tem Vanessa Fleisch signed a letter to GDOT seeking help with the traffic issue.

Afternoon drive time on Hwy. 54 is a particular sore spot on weekdays as westbound lanes can back up bumper-to-bumper all the way to City Hall at Willowbend Road.

The traffic light at The Avenue is a choke point for traffic in large part because cars leaving the shopping center can’t cue for a significant length before blocking in vehicles in other parking spaces, DOT District Traffic Engineer Michael Presley said last week in the meeting with city officials.

The new timing schemes will “maximize throughput” but the reality is that the road will need physical improvements in the future to improve traffic wait times, officials said.

Presley said a traffic study of the corridor, including Hwy. 74 as well, will be helpful in evaluating future operational improvements.

City Manager Jim Pennington said the idea of how much a traffic study might cost wouldn’t be ready perhaps until the first of the year, which dovetails well with the new political reality from the November election which will bring at least some new members to the city council.

The current council on a 3-1 vote authorized setting aside $500,000 in a proposed sales tax that will also be on the November ballot, with those funds being used for future road improvements and a possible corridor study. Haddix cast the lone vote in opposition, arguing the city needed the money to stay focused on road and cart path repair, which is what be funded with the lion’s share of the city’s $14 million sales tax proceeds. That, of course, depends on whether the countywide tax ultimately passes.

If the tax doesn’t pass, the city council will need to find a new source of revenue to fund some $1.5 million in road and cart path repairs that are necessary each year on average, according to city staff.

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Haddix

Next month he will earn the title he rightfully deserves - Ex PTC Mayor

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About Don Haddix

After his retirement, former Fayetteville Mayor Ken Steele did a great job in summarizing Don Haddix. It was in the 2/28/12 edition of The Citizen. Here is what the former Mayor said:

"Mayor Haddix frequently says people have trouble relating to him because he thinks outside the box... My opinion is that he has no idea where the box is and would not recognize it if he found it."
"It is interesting to note that as a councilman Mr. Haddix was usually on the short end of many 3-to-2 votes on issues of significance. He always blamed the three.
Now as mayor with the three new council members elected in 2009 and one new member elected in 2011, he is still on the short end with 4-to-1 votes, and it is now the four who are at fault."

Reasonable people might surmise, “Aha, we have isolated the problem.”

We have indeed.
Anybody but Haddix in November
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Don Haddix & Censure

Don
No pity party allowed!
You were absolutely censured for the right reasons. You have spent hours on end writing letters to editor and on these blogs spinning tales about the other council members. How can you deny your own history. In fact it is embarrassing that you post this article as reference because the charges brought against you are so clear and concise everyone following the city would agree.

As for Fred Brown, council meetings from July 23, 1982 shows charges for interfering with police activities and a lengthy discussion surrounding 2 situations involving Brown's over involvement but he was not censured! PTC Pride has volunteers checking the facts surrounding your blog statements, so if Mayor Brown was formally censured, please post the document. We can not find any proof that your claim is accurate.

Lets also not forget your horrible behavior in previous elections where you posted with the title of mayor under your name, spins and twists about Imker. You have repeatedly placed the citizens at risk and you have been warned by many to stop. Even here as you play your political games you continue to use the title of mayor, putting all of us at risk! You never quite figured out how to separate your personal persona from your public one, hence the lawsuits you have dragged us (the citizens) through.

You had options and you chose your path. You are responsible, at least in your pending defeat, take responsibility for the dysfunctional disaster you have created!

Finally, you took tax payer money to reimburse yourself for a private libel lawsuit.
You do not deserve nor will you have a second term.

$12,000...did you really think that PTC citizens would forget that you took their money? Again you had options and you chose the path that you took. It's not anyone's fault but your own and you need to own it in retirement.

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I will repeat my answer to you from the other thread. Seems some have the idea just moving to another thread makes it okay to repeat the same false comments there.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yes, they need to do some study before talking. I was not the first Mayor to be Censured. At a minimum Mayor Fred Brown was censured before:
http://www.thecitizen.com/articles/07-22-2011/ptc-mayor-spoils-censure-w...

Fact is, they Censured me over issues where I was later proven correct. Smith and Steele, in example, lost their elections over exactly the issues I was attacked for saying.

As for leaving the meeting, it was because it was an ambush Agenda, Councilman Doug Sturbaum was not there and they gave me no time to compose a rebuttal since they knew I had a meeting the prior evening.

They tried to justify it by claiming I had no right to speak, which the City Attorney shot down immediately. The City Attorney also advised me recuse and leave, which is what you do when you recuse. You do not stay on the Dais.

Ambush Agenda Items have been their tool for four years.

The most ridiculous part of all of this is Dienhart walked out of a meeting in anger. He made a snarly remark then stomped out for a good amount of time. No excuse for it, no reason to recuse, etc.

That they try to justify but cannot.

On the Comprehensive Strategic Plan that was a top priority from the citizens at the One Peachtree City, in example, and I am getting a ton of positive feedback for it, including from the City Manager and others.

So, indeed they have no clue on the facts, law, policy etc. It is all an excuse to do political attacks, nothing more.

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The ultimate censure is a month away

Maybe that will shut you up for good. And Fred Brown was never censured, you dope. You do not deserve to even mention his name with your track record. Fred Brown was the last public servant type mayor, a true gentleman and was elected to multiple terms with only token opposition. Bob Lenox was hardly a public servant, but effective as a leader and also elected to multiple terms with minimal opposition.

Then we had 3 one term oddballs who could not be more different from one another, but they draw opposition like flies - and for good reasons.

Looks like George is halfway there. First he got a new picture, and tonite is Rotary Club Forum. If he does well there, it will be Mayor George Deinhart.

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These pretzels are making me thirsty

FYI

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Pumpkin didnt ask you anything

Perhaps she didnt post the question you asked her to ask before you answered it. Pathetic

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Everyone

I just wanted to thank everyone for the level of support I was shown at last Saturdays forum. I offered a positive message, and more importantly a plan, and you all responded to that by giving me a a huge victory in the straw poll. My 40 point victory over the second place finisher and 50 point victory over the incumbent not only humbled me, but made me realize that a positive message centered on leadership and fiscal discipline truly resonates with our wonderful city. I hope to see you all again at Tuesday nights forum.

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Dienhart

Hate to use a baseball reference after staying up to about 1am to watch the Braves lose, but knock it out of the park tonight, George, and let's bring some sanity back to the Mayor's office next month.

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Nuk & Braves Game

I didn't get home brom Billings,MT until about 1030pm but like you, I stayed up and watched the whole thing--than after a long and tiring day, slept til 9:30 this morning! Thankfully,I don't have a horse in the Mayoral race as I don't live there--but if I did, I'd vote for George. My Managerial vote of the day: I'd have put Kimbrel in and let him go for it! He was chomping at the bit in the dugout--but like a good trooper kept his comments to himself.

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October in Atlanta - samo, samo

It has been a long time since the Braves won a playoff game, but who can you blame? Bobby? Freddie? Chipper? Uggla?

I'm thinking it has been at least 10 years since they won in the playoffs and it seems they are there almost every year. Different managers, different rosters, certainly different pitchers - and hardly any looks bad on paper. Big mystery, but at least we know when our season ends - first week of October. Maybe they all have a time share the second week of October that they haven't been able to sell.

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Thanks for the words of encouragement.

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This was class

Complete opposite of Fleisch and Haddix.

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Haddix is trying to spin

the disastrous results of the straw poll yesterday where he only got 7 votes out of 70 cast vs. 41 for Dienhart, 13 for Logsdon, 4 for Jolly, and 5 for Vanessa. He barely beat out Jolly who has no experience in city government.

Haddix is certainly not telling the truth about who brought up zero-based budgeting. I was at the meeting when Dienhart brought that up a few months ago. Don was also at that meeting but was not allowed to speak because he did not follow the rules.

Haddix has absolutely no clue what he is talking about regarding zero based budgeting. For him to say it will not work for a city the size of PTC is totally ludicrous.

Haddix constantly talks about the need for a Strategic Plan. We have heard enough of that nonsense!

He has had four years to come up with a plan, but all we have heard is that we need a Strategic Plan! Leadership simply means to lead - not to blog, complain, and fight with the entire city council and all the citizens that disagree with you.

Time to come up with a new tune Don – that one is really getting old!

Here are two important firsts for him:

· First Mayor in PTC history to be censured
· First Mayor to walk off the dais during a council meeting

It's time for a change! PTC has had had enough of Don's lack of leadership.

Jim Richter

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Seven? Really? They must have been half drunk.

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I found it hard to believe that seven people voted for him. Of course, two of the seven were cast by him and Cathy. That leaves five that obviously didn't follow what Don had to say at the forum. I hope the PTC voters have the same strong reaction against him in November.

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Well said, americanpatriots

See, you and I aren't all that different after all :)

"He has had four years to come up with a plan, but all we have heard is that we need a Strategic Plan! Leadership simply means to lead - not to blog, complain, and fight with the entire city council and all the citizens that disagree with you. "

Totally agree with this!

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Thanks. We certainly agree on this issue! Strategic Plan - what a bunch of nonsense!

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Dienhart was right on the money yesterday.

He had a great day at the forum. He was knowledgeable, compassionate, reasonable and spoke to the people. You could just tell he is doing this for all the right reasons. I have never seen a local politician connect to a crowd like that before. This was also a very diverse crowd. GOP, Dems, Tea Party and NAACP. He is definitely the right man for the job.

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Concerns about Dienhart

Dienhart concerns me--- does he simply do whatever staff and professionals tell him to do? Does he think for himself? I see no evidence that he won't just be a rubber stamper and follow staff every time. Same criticism of Terry Ernst. He's a former PTC cop and he is friends with all the staff. He won't be able to order them around.

Bob Lenox, with all his faults, ran the show. He told staff what to do. Unfortunately and obviously there were some issues, but he was not pushed around by staff. The developer--- well that's a different story.

We have a number of problems and issues regarding our future in Fayette County and it looks like our various staff/personnel are regularly screwing up. Somebody has to take control and resolve this stuff. Hate to say it but Logsdon and King might be the right combo.

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In his 20 months in office he proposed some Budget cuts to Safety that everyone else, and Staff, rejected. They were not beneficial. They all failed to pass.

If I remember the number correctly, he make 4 non Budget proposals total. All in the last 2 or 3 months before resigning. I removed 3 because they were not properly processed through Staff, including the City Attorney, and the Planning Commission. The other one was on the 54 light, which was defeated 2-3 (Learnard, Fleisch, Imker).

Dienhart co opts ideas from others.

He was for the light on 54 right up to declaring for Mayor, then against. Why? His relationship with Steve Brown via the Republican and Tea Party.

The 54 Study cane from Vanessa Fleisch.

The Zero Balanced Budget came from Mike King. But, it says he does not realize we already use one form of ZBB in PTC. That a full ZBB is untenable for a city our size.

The Safety Director proposal came from Terry Ernst and later Mike King. That is one that can be put on the table as part of a Comprehensive Strategic Plan for examination and discussion.

Changing the election year came from Mike King. Tricky one, since it has to done by the State Legislature and was just tried, failing.

Logsdon is not an answer. Who do you think headed the changes at the PD that we are now dealing with?

How about bailing people out by making the city responsible for the Tennis Center debt when it did not need to be done?

He was for TDK before being against. He left a mess behind with the county I had to clean up.

He is for the SPLOST.

Saturday he stated he still thinks building retail is the answer for economic development.

Remember the Line Creek Big Box and Traffic Light and rezoning Wilshire from Light Industrial to general commercial he supported? Or wanting to annex in the Southern Pines land as a shopping center?

On the relationship with the County, he went along with whatever Chairman Jack Smith wanted.

Or being a business partner with the City Manager?

Also, Logsdon as Mayor and Brown as Chairman?

I did push for changes at City Hall. It was a battle, but got them. The changes got all the old hidden skeletons and trashing out into the open. It is being cleaned up.

None of the legal issues we are cleaning up now began since I have been Mayor. They were already there and we forced them out with the changes being made.

The employees policy was a disaster. Doug Sturbaum and i wanted to get them fixed back in 2008 and 2009. Logsdon and the City Manager just did band aids. It is finally getting done and fixing a lot of legal loopholes.

We need a Comprehensive Strategic Plan but don't have one. Logsdon opposed it when I was a Councilman and Dienhart, Learnard, Imker and Fleisch oppose it now.

Plans like that are SOP for businesses and most cities. We don't have one.

Looking to the future, I proposed the Future Land Use Plan that is now in work. As well I am working with GDOT for some real solutions, not just more studies that go nowhere.

I do believe I am the best Mayoral candidate for the future. I just need a Council that does not think they can be Mayor or City Manager based on a 3 vote. Or that they have Mayoral or City Manager powers when they do not. Or thinks the answer to every disagreement is violating the law and City Charter to try to play "got'cha!," which has failed every time.

I sure do not believe the answer to all problems is more tax and debt.

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Donnie Boy

Donnie Boy since you Pumpkin Bumpkin are so good at pointing out the errors of everyone else.....
Address the following, I cut and pasted from lawrence, hope you don't mind lawernce, but the people want answers. We don't want another term with you in office, it is as bad as what we have in the White House

1-Taking $12,000 from the taxpayers?
2-Threatening to sue his own city?
3-Using the title of mayor when blogging putting the city and citizens at more legal risks?
4-Proposing only 0.5 milage increase and sticking with that plan after the city's finance director presented to council
how Mr. Haddix's plan would bankrupt Peachtree City by 2014?
5-How he claims he saved the city with $1 million in savings when the city faced a $22 million deficit 4 years ago?
6-How he caused the city to be sued for Federal Housing Discrimination because he opened his big mouth at a joint planning meeting causing NorSouth to pursue the matter which to this day denies any responsibility for it.
7-How he tried to double his salary 4 years ago when the city was in deep financial trouble?
8-How he ran off a city employee he agreed with council to hire but I guess he never really agreed so he chased him out after?
9-How in 4 years never once proposed, planned or implemented any budget changes to financially save the city?
10- How he botched the Low Temp project?
11- How he botched the bowling alley project?
12- How he can't get along with anyone on council and has repeatedly attacked them with untruths?
13-How he takes credit for projects that are not his accomplishments?

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All good questions - Rotary forum is tonight

Either go and ask or just e-mail your questions to jefftruitt4@gmail.com

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Can we add my questions?

Where did Dienhart and Leanard say that they were against the comprehensive plan? And where did Dienhart say he was for the light on 54?

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Send it to Jeff Truitt for tonite's Rotary forum
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You are lying again

Again- post where Learnard and Dienhart said they were against a comprehensive plan- post from a reputable source.

Both the Public Safty Director and ZBB was both proposed by Dienhart months before King announced. You know this because you saw him talk about them at the tea party meeting you attended. You remember, you were there and wanted to speak but they wouldnt let you. You didnt follow the rules, so you couldn't speak. How did you handle that? you attacked the poor woman that handles the scheduling. Classic Haddix.

Again- reputable source on where he was for the light. He never was. You are lying again.

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Haddix: Devoid of honor

Still not posting anything to back up his claims against Dienhart and Learard.

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I honestly don't see that as a concern. He is the only one to present and successful negotiate additional budget cuts, and some of his proposals are not "rubber stamp" type proposals. To top it off- if you meet him, he has a strong personality. I don't see this as a worry...

Logsdon is the one to worry about here. He seems disinterested, and did let staff run the show when he was mayor. Rumor has it he literally feared the Police Chief.

Dienhart is an old Marine. If we the voter give him a chance, he will lead.

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AllStar: "Dienhart is an old Marine"

There are two kinds of Marines---- those from Quantico and those from Parris Island. The former are leaders; the latter are taught to "take that hill" and they do. They don't question.

I have some of the latter in Dienhart's dealing with staff.

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Actually Fay

Modern infantry are definitely not taught to "take that hill". The statement is an insult to those have served. Modern infantrymen are innovative, intelligent and taught to lead. From the greenest corporal on up to the joint chiefs. Take it from someone that actually served...

What are you basing these fears on? Your deep seated friendship with Logsdon?

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Marines

also come from San Diego, although I am proud to be an alumni of the Univerrsity of Parris Island.

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Straw poll

Dienhart was on point today and clearly demonstrated he is the man for the job.

Haddix and Logston were both a disappointment and the extremely poor performence they gave was clearly reflected in the straw poll results.

Cathy got trounced by Kim 61 to 6. Kim was very enthusiastic and thouroughly prepared.

Jim Richter

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straw poll

Dienhart is the only choice. Haddix and Logsdon deserve each other. Vanessa is a developer puppet.

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STRAW POLL RESULTS - Candidate Forum Fayetteville

For results to today's straw poll for the Peachtree City Races go to www.ptcpride.org and click on "What's New."

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Dienhart 58% in straw poll

Thats Dienhart first, taking 58% in the straw poll. Dandy Don polled at 10% Logsdon was a distant second at 18%. Vanessa and Jolly barely registered at 7 and 5 percent each.

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that's the only place he is winning

we'll talk AFTER the election

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Punctuate much?

I have noticed you struggle with it.

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Had it with Haddix signs

Where can they be procured?

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any elementary school oops i mean nursery school

such a child like thing to do. you poor mommie boy fools. grow up act like men, my god.

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pumpkin and Don Haddix

If you want to bury your head in the sand, that's your prerogative. Don Haddix will not be re-elected based upon facts.

Mayor Haddix never should have sent that email to Joey Grisham referring to the past mayor as "part drunk". When asked for a public apology he refused. Instead he dug in and let the lawsuit go forward only later to settle. He then proceeded to write to GIRMA asking for reimbursement of his legal fees which was more than $10,00 because he was the mayor. Haddix knew that GIRMA's deductible was $25,000 so along he knew taxpayer money would reimburse him.

Twice GIRMA told him NO, then on his 3rd letter, written by the city attorney without city council's knowledge, GIRMA agreed to get this off their backs.

You can write your posts attacking the messengers, but the truth is he took taxpayer money to reimburse himself for a private lawsuit.

Don Haddix lost his right to be the mayor of PTC the day he wrote that email. He further proved he's not qualified to serve for allowing the lawsuit to move forward refusing to take responsiblity for it and taking the money.

The citizens are anrgy. Mr. Haddix had options at the time and he and only he chose the path he took. All of this was done under the title of mayor.

In the end, those who oppose his re-election are doing so based upon these facts as an elected official. Unfortunately he has chosen to personalize it and attack opponents and messengers as well.

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get over it

were you at the meeting?

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Get over it-Pumpkin:Haddix

Which one should I and other citizens get over

1-Taking $12,000 from the taxpayers?
2-Threatening to sue his own city?
3-Using the title of mayor when blogging putting the city and citizens at more legal risks?
4-Proposing only 0.5 milage increase and sticking with that plan after the city's finance director presented to council
how Mr. Haddix's plan would bankrupt Peachtree City by 2014?
5-How he claims he saved the city with $1 million in savings when the city faced a $22 million deficit 4 years ago?
6-How he caused the city to be sued for Federal Housing Discrimination because he opened his big mouth at a joint planning meeting causing NorSouth to pursue the matter which to this day denies any responsibility for it.
7-How he tried to double his salary 4 years ago when the city was in deep financial trouble?
8-How he ran off a city employee he agreed with council to hire but I guess he never really agreed so he chased him out after?
9-How in 4 years never once proposed, planned or implemented any budget changes to financially save the city?
10- How he botched the Low Temp project?
11- How he botched the bowling alley project?
12- How he can't get along with anyone on council and has repeatedly attacked them with untruths?
13-How he takes credit for projects that are not his accomplishments?

You think the citizens should get over these?
Which one(s)?

Haddix always had choices and he created his own history. Clearly he has refused to take responsibility on most of them so now the voters will decide.

I wish him well in retirement, he simply made poor choices as an elected, public official.

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Did you have to look up the definition of procure?

Hech, I bet they will bring you a sign too, if you are jealous.

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Haddit With Haddix signs-Spyglass

I got mine at www.PTCPride.org
They hand deliver them at no charge.

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HADDIT WITH HADDIX SIGNS

Hi Spyglass... send an email to ptcpride@bellsouth.net and give us your address. Be more than happy to personally come bring you a sign and put it in your yard.

Additionally, signs will be available today at the candidate forum at the Fayette County Library. Just look for my red truck with a HADDIT WITH HADDIX sign on the back.

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Pumpkin

Get your panties out of a wad, big boy pant.? Hiding? We are in plane sight wake up and smell the coffee. We know who you are and btw to make it more obvious you are the only one supporting the crook of a mayor on this site. Go back to your corner and have your little dreams and we will wear our big boy pants and go to Mimi's

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Mayor I Am So Thankful You Respond On This Website

it is so unbelievable what is posted. Years ago we knew Fisher was going to be there. Four more lanes 54 / 74 really sounds like an interstate.

I still disagree with you concerning bringing the rail to PTC, it may not happen in my lifetime but you are young enough, ya got to face it.

Whatever you offer, and the citizens decide, we can be confident you have been here, you know who to contact and you will lead us, even if the answer is not one you personally agree with, but the one that will benefit the entire, the whole community.

keep up your good work Mayor and thank you.

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I just doubt they'll do

I just doubt they'll do anything to really fix that mess!!! It looks like they want to make it worse. Don't vote for any of the incumbents!!!

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What do you propose as a fix?

The split grade GDOT wants will destroy the 3 shopping centers. TDK will add, not reduce traffic.

If you have an idea not already heard, please share.

Also, Ryan Jolly is the only Mayoral who has not been in office before. Are you suggesting him as Mayor?

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What do we propose?

He already told you - don't vote for any of the incumbents. When the childish antics at council meetings end, then there is a better chance of having meaningful discussions and maybe even some solutions to problems. Nobody is going to vote for a continuation of the bickering and finger-pointing that you specialize in.

Jolly is not the only non-incumbent in the race, although he (or my neighbor's smelly dog) would be preferable to the one and only incumbent mayor. That being said, not voting for the incumbents is not a good across the board strategy. The only true incumbents are Haddix - who indeed must be voted out and Learnard - who must be retained since she has another Haddix as her only opponent. Is there anyone who thinks 2 Haddixs in stereo would be a solution to the city's problems?

For mayor, George resigned council, Vanessa is not running for a second term council seat and Logsdon hasn't been there for 4 long years. I'm fine with any of them, but George gets my vote. I just think he will work better with Mike King and Terry Ernst.

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why dont you have the gutz

the four of you put your big boy pants on, since you don't have the whatever, to throw your hats into the ring..... and schedule a meeting with our mayor at city hall.

quit wearing your hoodies and hiding out at mimi's.

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Haddix: Lame Answer, Morgan

George was part of the process in the article, as was Vanessa. Harold was part of the process that said no to the split grade and yes to another traffic light on 54.

Even Jolly, who has no voting record, has taken positions on 54 which simply are not legal.

Plus, I asked johenry, not you. But you seem to claiming to speak for him. I want to know what HE thinks is a solution.

My position is we have no productive solutions to be found within PTC. TDK, in example, will make it worse, since the Holding Company of the property in Coweta still want to build.

Relief has to be found outside of PTC. The Fischer Road connection to I-85 is but one piece, but one that can be done now.

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ANYONE BUT HADDIX website

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Fischer Road....not a fix

The Cowetians are coming into FC to get to their jobs in FC or even to go through and head to Clayco. They are absolutely NOT going up 34 to 54 to 74 to get on the interstate. Anyone who commutes outside of PTC daily on 74 can tell you this.

Coweta has access to I-85 at 154/Thomas Crossroads, at 34 before the Ashley Park area, and you can also go a back route already from Fischer Rd to Sharpsburg-McCollum/I-85. Only a total idiot would drive into PTC to get to 74 and then I-85. Every other route is a lot quicker and far less congested. Besides, their #1 priority is another access route to I-85 at Poplar Road near the new Piedmont hospital.

Cowetians are coming into 54/74 because they are going to their work somewhere....not to get to I-85.

I agree that the idea of knocking down existing shopping centers is looney tunes...that ain't happening and the reality is that it would fill right back up shortly with the traffic.

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Nuk omg you have really said some stuff before but-----

have you finally lost your mind? the existing shopping centers should be the least thing on your mind. seriously is this where you really shop.

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pumpkin...stop being a dumpkin

Your idol Haddix doesn't agree with tearing down 3 shopping centers either, but since you cannot comprehend too well and missed what he already said that I agreed with in regards to these potentially affected shopping centers, maybe you need to not post after midnight on the weekends.

Hell yes I shop there too. Why wouldn't I? They exist and are very convenient. I got along fine without them before they were built but the reality is they are there now and aren't going anywhere. Duh!

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Haddix: You Miss the Point

Well, GDOT disagrees with you as do I.

The heaviest concentration of residential in Coweta is in east Coweta. To get to the roads you are referencing they have to go west.

Get a demographic and road map of Coweta and you will see what I am talking about. The time added to travel exceeds coming through PTC.

The double left turn lane from 54 to 74 is there for a reason. It isn't just PTC traffic.

Once completed MacDuff is designated by GDOT as a bypass that will have limited traffic restraints with maximum allowed speed. It is for taking Coweta and Centennial area north bound morning and southbound evening traffic away from 74/54. It is to move it quickly.

Do we have east bound traffic from Coweta that Fischer will not help? Yes, I agree fully and am very aware of it living right off of 54. West bound evening traffic backs up to the lake.

TDK will do nothing for east bound traffic. If you remember the initial plan, a major artery would have to be create through PTC, using Crosstown and other roads. That is mainly residential area. And then it would only benefit east west traffic.

As you know, the huge McIntosh development in Coweta would consume and exceed that road capacity almost immediately.

There is only one answer I can think of that would work, but would we want it? That being four more lanes for just through traffic, but elevated.

Plus, who would pay for that cash cow?

As for Coweta's priority, again, that is west of the residential I am talking about. Plus, that is their priority which GDOT and the ARC are not subject to. If they deem the connection warranted they will just do it.

Remember when 74 was widened? They did not ask us, they told us they were doing it.

As I said, Fischer is only one piece of a solution and there is nothing that will help within PTC.

Learnard's 6 lane idea is as insane as the split grade. We agree on this one.

Dienhart talks about closing median cuts like the one at the Avenue.

That would force westbound for the Avenue to do a left turn onto 74 and then a right. You know how badly the turn lanes already backs up at times.

Then think about how one would go west when leaving the Avenue.

Eastbound for Marketplace would now have to turn left onto 74 and then cross 74 traffic. Westbound would have to turn right onto 74 then cross 74 traffic.

Leaving Marketplace and going west would require a right onto 74 and then a right onto 54. Going east a right and then a left onto 54.

There was no thinking that idea through.

I am very open to any ideas that would actually work. Some band aides that might give slight help I already passed on to Staff as they were suggested to me.

This whole traffic study election tactic is futility. That should have been put to bed by anyone reading the 2010 Transportation Plan.

My work on Fischer began long before the election cycle. All of this on studies, etc, began this year.

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I live here and there are better ways to get to I-85 north

Than 74 all the way. Thank goodness folks are mostly like you, clueless. Keep my route traffic free.

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rwm you

said before that you contributed $100. to Logsdon for his campaign. How much have you contributed to Dienhardt for his since you say you are going to vote for him?

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$250 and an in-kind gift my wife is arranging in Smoke Rise

George is a good guy, a Marine and a survivor of the Haddix/Imker wars. He is reasonable and sensible. He is able to control his temper. He only occasionally freaks out when the troll/mayor provokes him. I would be comfortable with him as Mayor. Of course, anything is an improvement.

Does anyone realize how inappropriate and tasteless it is for an incumbent mayor to ask or answer questions on this forum about how much money someone donated? Can you ever imagine Lenox, Logsdon or either of the Browns doing that? This dope really needs to be flushed. Let's set our goal at fewer than 200 votes. Just to stick in, Cathy should get 300 votes.

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Haddix: Interesting

You didn't give it as of September 30th. I will be looking on the next since he has to report your name and address. Curious as to if you are who I think you are.

I doubt you actually gave anything to Logsdon, either.

Remember, when you attack someone on the blogs, continually, they have every right to push back, elected or not.

It isn't inappropriate at all, it is open records and part of any election.

Anyone wanting to check anyone out, go HERE and look.

It is great to see who is giving to whom. Jim Richter (Tea Party and treasurer for the Republican Party) and Larry Sussberg are donors to Dienhart.

Now, back to some actually important issues.

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Robert W. Morgan
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Sure did, but I'm a cash only kind of guy

Don't want to be credited for contributions on anybody's report. Just in case I need something zoned or need a variance, I'm covered by just sending a private e-mail and nobody sees a connection to a donation. You may think that is inappropriate, but you are just jealous.

Yes, I agree, it is great to see who is giving to who. When good solid citizens like Jim and Larry put their money up for a candidate, that encourages others who may not be following the events of the past couple of years as carefully as they have to donate as well. It also encourages voters for the same reason. I'll be looking for other outstanding citizens to donate to George and possible Harold and even Vanessa.

Who did you list as donators? Supporters? Hollis Harris? Jim Pace? Bob Truitt? Jim Fulton? Jim Strickland? Todd Strickland? Any of the former mayors?

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RWM

What ever level of support you have given is truly and deeply appreciated. Please pass along my gratitude to the misses for whatever she has planned. Thanks for your support here, in your neighborhood and anywhere else you willing to give it. Educated citizens that share thier opinions with friends and neighbors are a candidates best friend.

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Don Haddix

I also donated to Harold and Vanessa. Check the next report.

Amazed to see you borrowing? Are you getting that money from $12,000 you took from the taxpayers?

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Larry

Since I thanked Morgan above, I thought I should thank you here as well- thanks for your generous financial support.

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Haddix: pumpkin: Morgan

Working late at the Haddix campaign headquarters - Friday 8PM.

Haddix: " pumpkin honey, please come in here and look at what I am going to send out on The Citizen blog that all the voters can see"

pumpkin: "Coming sweet cheeks, that's why I am your campaign manager, so you don't say something inappropriate"

Haddix: "Here's the important part -"Remember, when you attack someone on the blogs, continually, they have every right to push back, elected or not." I really think I am making a good point here. Don't you, lovey?"

pumpkin:"That's just the right tone sweetie, that Morgan guy is a complete buffoon and needs to be put down. All the Morgan haters out there will vote for you now - and maybe me too.

Haddix: to himself "Nobody is going to vote for you Cathy - it is just a publicity stunt that I dreamed up all by myself" then out loud to pumpkin "Yea, and then I get more votes by showing that Dienhart has more contributors than I do. And by mentioning Richter, I take a shot at Steve Brown. Pretty smart, right honey bunch?

pumpkin: "You are so good at this political stuff. I am so proud my little dumpling is going to be mayor for 4 more years. And if I'm lucky I get to serve under you as well"

******((((((Edited and stopped because the editor is trying to eat breakfast)))))))))))))))*********

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Thank You

we are following you Mr. Mayor,

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You make me laugh

Had it with Haddix

moelarrycurly
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So tell the rest

Of the voters here. What, exactly, does that cash buy you? How many times do you get to vote for, say, Dienhardt, with $250. vs., say, Robert Moron, voter, who donates zero to any candidate?

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Haddix: Dienhart CCDR

Morgan gave nothing.

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See below

Based on your logic, we need less roads to and fro, as apparently everyone wants to come right through PTC....on Hwy 54 west.

Fayette and Coweta need to sit down and work this out. I realize that is not your strong point.

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The "real fix" is more access to/from Fayette/Coweta

But our elected officials continue to pussy foot around the issue.

It is so obvious.

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the smart ones

who came to PTC for employment live in Coweta, could it be taxes and acres. could it be the hospital. just possibly its the attitudes and those old country boys who are laughing at , well you fill in the blank