FREE SPEECH for the week of Sept. 24 – Sept. 30

Free Speechers, here’s your “have at it” page again.

Post on topic or off topic or make up your own topic.

Here are some anonymous contributions that showed up in my email last week to get your pumps primed.

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I have some advice on how to fix our messed up schools and budget deficit. Don’t cut the teacher pay, but cut their extra supplement by 5%, start charging for school busses, collect all the money we are owed from the out of county kids who have been caught in our schools illegally and do NOT let them back in, quit letting kids go to different schools in the county with “special permission” as that is what messed up our schools to begin with, get rid of the senior tax exemption if they have grandkids living with them that are in our schools, and start charging the out of county teachers kids that go to our schools. Maybe even stop serving hot meals. Not popular decisions, but necessary to save our school system. There you have it, and the advice was free.

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WOW,WOW,WOW. I just got put in the group that doesn’t pay federal income tax. The group that Romney says he doesn”t worry about because we expect the gov’t to take care us. My wife and I paid income tax until our retirement. Our retirement is not enough that we have to pay income tax. Mr. Romney, you really are out of touch with the lower middle class. I get nothing, natta, from the government; never have. Mr. Romney, you need to go into the cities and go to the poorer areas in the morning. You would see thousands of people going to work every morning on the subways and buses. Most of these folks go to jobs that do not pay a living wage. Mr. Romney, many of the folks clean homes, cars, offices, and have more than one generation living in a small apartment and they need government’s help. These folks furnish the young to fight our wars. How much is it worth to you, Mr. Romney, to have the poor kids to die in war so that you and the higher class won’t have to? You just lost our vote. — Senoia, Ga.

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E-gad. Yet another, too lengthy, dissertation from that Mr Parker in Peachtee City. ENOUGH! Even the AJC limits letter, faxes and e-mails to so many words or less. His using The Citizen to hear himself talk (and voicing his political views among other things) is getting to be too much. Who made him king? I'm just about ready to just throw your paper in the trash when it shows up, because it is the same thing over and over (about the same stuff, from the same people). We are just WEARY of it. Must say, though, I love the editorial cartoons!

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Thank you for the excellent article by Derek Wolter. It was superb. Kudos to you for giving us a good dose of thinking print.

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Free Speech is free for another week — have at it!

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I'm not special

Is what I see rather than all of your or my attempt to identify based on physical/ material concepts. No need for any 'special' powers - your/our words and ability to discuss rather than argue are like a mirror . I learn from these discussions why others have the perspective that they have - and I just share my opinion based on my perspective: Democrat; women. minority; etc. etc., etc. You see yourself as a cute 'early bird'. Nice.

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DM is special!

And you think you are special? LMAO Because you're a minority? News flash, I'm more of a minority than you are. From what I've seen you don't learn anything from these discussions.

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How long have you been off the reservation? Are some of your relatives still 'on their own land'? Did you have ancestors on The Trail of Tears.? You are truly a Native American. Congratulations!!! You have much to be proud of !, Jim Thorpe was treated like a minority. What has been your experience in this area. You and Elizabeth Warren may have something in common. Thanks for sharing your ethnicity. We should all be proud of our roots!

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DM

Could you be more condescending? How long have you been off of the plantation?

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My answer - condescending?

50 years. I can now experience non-segregation in Georgia. What is condescending about being identified as a Native American? What is condescending about your history? We just celebrated the kindness of the Native American to the newcomers - the Pilgrims. Most Cheokees that I have met are very proud of what is happening on the reservations (casinos).
Obviously Elizabeth Warren is proud of her heritage. I don't consider being a minority in this country as a negative. . . especially Native American. . . As is Elizabeth Dole. Someday a citizen with Native American heritage may become President. Be proud Earl E! Not many Americans today can prove 75% Cherokee.

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I'm proud just not arrogant like you

Unlike you I do not choose to live in the past. Nor do I dig into others past so that I can attack them in a passive aggressive manner. I'm sorry that you feel so mistreated that you have to be here everyday righting the wrongs of Fayette County and preaching to them about your heritage. Why do I care about Elizabeth Warren or Elizabeth Dole? Your words lead me to believe that you do not know any Native Americans. I did not come here to flaunt my heritage as you do. You asked so I answered. In fact your attention to this leads me to think that you're not so proud of your heritage. You spend so much time lecturing others about theirs. Grow up DM. Try to focus on the issues and stop wallowing in the past.

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Everyone should be proud. .of their unique American heritage! Thanks for sharing ! Sorry you feel my pride in being an African American is arrogant. I learn something everyday!

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Elizabeth Dole is native American?

Elizabeth Dole? If the NAACP says it is so, it must BE!

Liz Warren is the biggest liar Democrat to come out of M-Ass-achusetts since Teddy dumped and left Mary J in the pond to die. Two for two.

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Why would anyone deny their Native American ancestry in the 20th or 21st century. Is it something to be ashamed of? Why do some deny their African American/Asian/Jewish/Hispanic/Arab heritage? May it be that a philosophy/prejudice associated with so-called 'white' supremacy has dominated the thought in our wonderful country? America - the United States is embracing all of its citizens who contribute to the history of this country. The children of today have the gift of DNA and can ascertain just how American they are. No one, who is an American should be ashamed of their heritage - especially the Native American. Our history has not always implemented this thought of inclusion - but if we are to maintain the respect of the world - we had better practice what our Constitution and our religious foundation preaches.

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Back in the simpler 50's we used to refer to this kind of perspective as an inferiority complex. But that was in an era when we called a spade a spade. Political correctness has taught us to avoid blatant honesty. This lack of forthright honesty, a de facto lie, has created a subset of our population with totally unrealistic beliefs. This subset clings to the almost paranoid belief that they are superior beings with new and improved names being persecuted by the majority when in reality the majority could give a rat's a**. We are seeing this come to a head(again). I have many non indoctrinated friends in this minority and I feel their pain and embarrassment.

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Back in the simpler 50's we used to refer to this kind of perspective as an inferiority complex.

If you were alive in the 50's, what was your perspective on segregation? We who participated in changing laws and perception (blacks, Hispanics, whites, Asians) during that period were not doing it out of an inferiority complex issue - but trying to get an answer to a question: Why, after following all of the requirements of being 'good' Americans (education, hard work, respect for others, participating in government) are we still segregated because of the color of our skin? Today, we see some of this iniquity/inequity in institutionalized racism. Are only blacks/women who agree with your point of view of the non-indoctrinated minority correct? Well, thank you for sharing your opinion. It is adding to the clarification of why Americans still have to combat this false security of supremacy based on gender and skin color.

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All so true and so sad. To watch the burning and looting and

assault on the police officers and equipment makes me boil. And if one of these protesters got injured or killed it would be blamed on the police. This is not a protest it is an unlawful riot. Some idiot teen-age rapper said it was a city under siege. It sure is and it is under siege by lawbreaking, no good thugs. They need to declare marshal law, round up anyone who does not reside in Ferguson and run them out of town. Your rights end when you are taking away the rights of law abiding citizens. Think of the people who live near by, they are prisioners in their homes, their property is being destroyed, their lives are in danger. Same with the business owners, many probably have every penny they own invested in their business only to see these apes destroy it and none of them will ever be held responsible.

People came out of the woodwork after the incident happened, saying they had seen it all and the officer shot an unarmed young man who had his hands up--if everyone who said they had been there had actually been there it would have been an extremely large crowd. What gets me in each of these situations where the young men have been killed they were portrayed as this little innocent boy--and in each case, neither were they little or innocent. But the media loves to stir things up and they continue to do it tonight. They are just as responsible as the mobs rioting.

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touch a hair

Touch a hair on one of their heads and you have the U.S. justice dept and the I.R.S. breathing down your neck not to mention having your home and car seized because you are without doubt a drug dealer. Change or chump change?

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Hope and change

How's that working for the Barry lovers? What have the Barry lovers done in the last 6 years to change the future of their country? Where have they been? Have they contributed to this country? Or have they spent 6 years raising Michael Browns and refusing to work to change their lazy assed lives? Spend your life, oh Barry lovers, bitching and moaning about every miserable thing you can think of. You're not going to get more than another 2 years of this cry me a river publicity. Enjoy this moment in time. Continue to whine and complain and do nothing to better your community. When the fires are out, the glass is replaced, the stores are left empty, tell us, how much better is your world going to be then? More hope? More change? No, more of the same, and you will be left to wallow in your filth and destruction. You will have the life that you shaped for yourselves. Your actions create the world you live in. Barry is watching and guess what. He is no longer part of you. He is rich, he has power. He does not need you anymore to further his career. Until you look at your miserable lives and choose to change your ways, you will have no hope and will see no change. That is the message you...just...don't....get.

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Improvements since 2008?

More students able to deal with those student loans; gas prices down; lower percentage of unemployed; car industry saved; attention to and acknowledgement of the 47%; correction of years of mismanagement of the VA; small business beginning to prosper; a non-violent confrontation with Russia; a creating of partnerships in dealing with ISIS; more illegal criminals deported than any time in history; I could go on. Many are amazed at this administrations accomplishments in spite of the global awareness of the obstruction of the Republican Party. There is an interesting 'new' issue coming to the fore. The recognition of the emergence in the open of 'white rage' in the fear of losing 'white supremacy '. We need to look at the wisdom of DeKlerk and Mandela and how this reality was handled. 'My miserable life? Gosh, at 75 after living as an American black, yes there have been some tough times, but here I am in Fayette County Georgia enjoying the fruits of all Americans and my family who fought for my right to live as a free, educated human being in a section of the country where an ancestor may have been lynched. Wow! What a journey!

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What will you complain

about when Obama is a private citizen? LOL!! I think African Americans have done remarkably well since the days of legal slavery and segregation in our country. I think Americans of all colors have contributed to this remarkable journey from slavery to the White House. (Obama's ancestors were not slaves - but the color of his skin allies him with those who are) All Americans should be proud of this journey. All Americans have not achieved the educational or financial level of President Obama. Have you? Regarding your questions - just ask, "Where were the police when the fires and looting started? We all were watching last night when the fires and looting started - and the media stayed on that event for some time. Were you watching? Where were the police; national guard; county law enforcement? You have acknowledged that the event happened in the 'black' community. That was sad - but preventable and should have been anticipated.

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Eric Holder should have to answer your questions

Governor Nixon was asked by Eric Holder not to call up the National Guard or additional law enforcement beforehand as he felt that was sending a bad message to the looters. Nixon is as we all know a democrat so of course he played the administrations game as he was told to.

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Businesses, lives, hopes have been damaged - Bird

You are entitled to your opinion - but some of the Armed Guard was there - ready to be deployed at the direction of the locals in charge. Eric Holder and the federal authorities were not in charge. Marshall Law had not been declared. Law enforcement was evident in the reports that I saw on TV - and most stations carried almost the same picture coverage. I'm sure that the local leaders have been asked what was the thought of assuming that the area of the city that was 'looted' before, would not need law-enforcement protection. 1992 - Chief Darryl Gates pulled LAPD off the streets - and LA burned, Students and staff at some schools had to remain in their buildings overnight until order was restored. This will all eventually come out in the Federal Investigation. I read Holder's words. Stategic planners would have had some law-enforcement at a sight that had been involved in violence before IMO.

The concern of everyone was not a wrong message to looters - but not a repeat of the over-reaction earlier with pictures of 'soldiers' firing into unarmed civilians . Crowd control by tear-gas is almost as bad as crowd control by police dogs and bully sticks. IMO

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Pants Up, Don't Loot!

It's comments like Alice Sharpton's where she blames law enforcement for the actions of the thugs, criminals, and looters. STOP COMMITTING CRIME AND THERE WON'T BE A PROBLEM!! Of course, this logic flies right over the heads of those that need a cause to justify their own criminal behavior and sense of inferiority.

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DM - Wow

We agree.......they had 3 months to get ready for last night. What the heck happened, where was the governor? Good grief.

There was a time in our history when looters were just shot dead, everyone was given warning and looters were shot. This happened mostly in natural disasters like earthquakes. Believe me, if they knew they would be shot, no one would loot.

Mod control is about overwhelming force, it's only about 5% that cause this kind of stuff. People that incite other people to riot should be arrested immediately. We have seen a string of people whip up the crowds into arsonists and looters. These people should be arrested.

Now, if you want to lay down in the street and passively protest against something, anything, that's fine by me. Let them come and arrest them.

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LOL! We should mark this date on our calendars!!.. Sincerely, I have learned so much from our discussions.

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Believe me, if they knew they would be shot, no one would loot.

I wish this were true. In 1965, some 30 looters were shot and killed in the Watts Riot. Looting has gone on in subsequent riots. I wish your comment represented truth - but if these 'thugs' who commit the crime - actually used common sense and had the fear of 'results/consequences' - they probably would have the 'character' not to 'loot' in the first place.

More is coming out today questioning the 'truth' told about the autopsy of Brown's body. All of this investigation will not change the outcome of this tragedy. Under the law - one does not die for theft or assaulting a police officer. Have you any updated information about if and when the officer called for back-up?

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DM - You can't prove

a negative, I know one thing for sure about the 1965 riots, those 30 looters didn't loot following their deaths. As to those that would have looted without shooting looters, you and I can't prove that they would have. We can only believe that people will weigh the risks of such action and act accordingly.

I don't have any more information on the call for back up.

Here, read the testimony yourself.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2014/11/24/ferguson-assets/gra...

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Under the law - one does not die for theft or assaulting a police officer.

REALLY ???? Police officers are no longer allowed to defend themselves? WOW

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Earl E and Little Fred

Assault and robbery do not warrant the DEATH penalty. . . And that is the law. Yes, thank heavens there are scenarios where an officer AND a civilian can use deadly force to protect their life or the life of loved ones. But you guys know that - right?

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Riots DM

Riots are not random robbery and assault, it is mob action and the police, with permission of the Governor of any state, has the authority to authorize the shooting of looters. The governor of the state of Mo. chose not to give this authority to the police in Ferguson.

The 1965 riots involved 31,000 rioters against the LA police and 3500 National Guard, they burned down approximately 250 businesses, mostly white businesses. The use of deadly force was one of the primary reasons the riots were brought under control.

After SCLC initiated its Chicago Campaign that fall (1965), King asked an audience there: ‘‘What did Watts accomplish but the death of thirty-four Negroes and injury to thousands more? What did it profit the Negro to burn down the stores and factories in which he sought employment? The way of riots is not a way of progress, but a blind ally of death and destruction which wrecks its havoc hardest against the rioters themselves’’ (King, 12 March 1966).

Dr. King was right.

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Amen!

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That is exactly what the Sharptons and other race hustlers are 'marching' for. They want special treatment for blacks that rob, loot, kill, assault police officers, etc., etc. They demand that law enforcement not attempt to arrest them or approach them as they go about committing crimes.

The Sharptons of the world tried and convicted officer Wilson before the grand jury met and without the FACTS of what actually occurred. His 'parents' (thugs themselves) went to the U.N. demanding an indictment.

Do you remember 'freaknik'? It was a segregationist spring break 'celebration' for only black college students. The behavior of these 'students' got so bad every year that businesses boarded up their Windows and closed down during 'freaknik'. These 'college students' wanted free reign of downtown Atlanta without police intervention so that they could do whatever they wanted.

The Sharptons of the world (like Alice here) want the same thing and will call you a racist if they don't get it.

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Hockey game riots

I wasn't aware that 'black's were the main attendees. Thanks for the information. Were those 'blacks' in Ireland? In Spain? In Russia? (when humans demonstrated for their right to be treated fairly) Maybe you don't realize that UCLA and USC are not 'black' schools. After some games/events - LAPD goes on special alert to contain the joy or remorse on Fraternity/Sorority Row. Bad behavior is not just apparent in 'skin color' of some Americans. Have you ever 'read' about Las Vegas/Palm Beach Florida, etc. during Spring Break? Those 'white' kids always behave so well - except for those who end up in jail. Kids will be kids - regardless of color. And thugs will be thugs

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Well PTC, our local thugs have gotten into the picture.

Smashing windshields, barring traffic on major roadways,etc. Just in the last few days I read about a young lady who had moved to ATL from Pittsburgh to get away from crime. While sitting at a bus stop she was approached by a young man and after a few words the man took something, probably her purse, and shot and killed her. This young lady was getting herself physically ready to join the Navy. She had a plan for her life, was working toward doing something useful and rewarding. Both of them were black. I have heard no outcries against this senseless murder except from this young lady's family. Week after week we hear on the news or read in the paper that thugs have gunned down another person, sometimes going into a home and killing everyone including toddlers and babies. Still no outcry except from family members. A greatgrandmother is trussed up, robbed and left to die. Still no outcry at this senseless crime. Seems as long as it is a black taking another black's life it is not worth the community getting involved. Of course these crimes cannot be called 'racist' so evidently these black lives aren't worthy of 'peaceful' protests or any other type of protest.

I am always amazed, too, at how these criminals burn and plunder with no thought to what they are doing to these business owners and these neighborhoods. Of course many of these criminals are brought in from all over the country and spend weeks creating unrest. Why are they allowed to do this? Why are we so politically correct that our law enforcement officers are restrained from stopping them? The throw everything at the police and the police are expected to stand there and take it. If one of the so called peaceful protesters got hurt they would all be yelling about police brutality once again. Take a good look at some of these protesters--they could not care less about what the protest is about--it is only another opportunity to get themselves out there before the cameras and posture. Those in charge should make it known that anyone who breaks the law, including impeding traffic, will be hauled off to jail and do it from the beginning. I have a friend who is quite ill and was being transported by ambulance from a local hospital to Emory and it took almost three hours to complete the trip this evening. Supposed this was a life and death situation and this man died? But someone else's life is of no concern to them unless it is one that they can use to their advantage. Disgusting.

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Chuck Hagel resigns

How much worse can it get when even Chuck Hagel resigns? I thought he was just about the bottom of the barrel for Def Sec and now even he wants out.

Of course, who would ever want to run any micromanaged bombing only "war" having to answer to Barry.

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Hagel

Hagel didn't resign voluntarily. He was forced out by the President. At least get your facts straight before unloading on Obama. There is plenty there without making up stuff.

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Unloading on Barry

Your post doesn't even make sense. Hagel was a lousy Defense Secretary and Barry has already proven he is no CINC. The facts are we are stuck with Barry for the next 2 years and his next nominee will be even worse than Hagel, if that is possible. Do not confuse my comments with Hagel's military service, of which he was a great soldier and I thank him for that. What will be good is that Sen. McCain is going to be the new Chair of the Armed Services Committee. That right there will offer some semblance of leadership.

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MLC & Hagel

I don't know if "great" is the right descriptor; he was an Infantry Squad Leader. Confirmed by senate 58-41--not exactly a joy ride!

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Okay, I was trying to be nice. He was a good soldier, no question. And I do respect his service in our military. Certainly no leader, as evidenced by the dopes Obama has surrounded himself with...Rice, Kerry, Holder, etc.

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MLC & Flournoy

She's just another policy wonk--too many of those around already! But apparently Robert Gates thought highly of her--and that's a plus.

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Mr. Hagel - War

Mr. Hagel is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he's been to war. He knows that the way we are fighting reminds him too much of how President Johnson fought In Vietnam.

Having you rear end on the ground with a civilian managing whether or not you're going to live or die is a formula for disaster.

Congress needs to declare war on the caliphate state and go all in to kill them all before they kill us with Iran's help.

Let's take the politics out of this war of attrition before it's too late.

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I read one of his replacement considerations is Michele Flournoy. From bad to worse. And never served in the military. Another Susan Rice. God help our military.

Even worse, Kerry fails again with Iran. Seven more months of nothing talks coming up.

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This is somewhat troubling...

Huffington Post

WASHINGTON -- The federal government until recently shielded big banks from criminal prosecution out of concern that convictions may damage the financial system, a top Federal Reserve official said Friday, explicitly acknowledging a policy long denied by the Obama administration.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/21/fed-too-big-to-jail_n_6201476.html

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Cyclist - Nothing

should surprise you when it comes to this administration, the banksters have been a primary source of funding for this President. Call it protection money.

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It is troubling

Love Elizabeth Warren! Remember Enron?

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You mean?

the native American? That Elizabeth Warren?

http://elizabethwarrenwiki.org/elizabeth-warren-native-american-cherokee...

Crazy as a fox that women, talk about playing the system to your advantage.

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PTCO

There's that 'racist' thingy again. Just can't help it can you? OK. UCLA ten points ahead! What a game. Two more quarters. Great cross town rivalry. (They're in the Rose Bowl)

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Yep DM

there's that "racist" thing again, too bad she couldn't do it on her own. She needed government help.

Here's something else for you to read. Good luck on the game, did you go to UCLA?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/elizabeth-warrens-identity-politi...

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PTCO

Being 'white' and 'male', you wouldn't know anything about 'needing that government help. UCLA 1957-1961. No PTCO - didn't need AA (that help came much later). My mother graduated in 1932 from UCLA. No AA for her either. Women and minorities making it on their own - what a unique concept. Thank heavens we had the GI Bill for some 'white' male WWII veterans. The government help made a big difference in their lives - didn't it? Score seems to be holding.

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Well DM - I

wasn't referring to you, i was referring to E. Warren, she's your hero.

As for the GI Bill, which I took advantage of DM, that was earned in full......more than full.

What did Ms. Warren do to earn her financial aid? I'll tell you, she lied.

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DM USC or UCLA

Since you went to both which one do you favor?

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Nope Cy :-)

I didn't go to both!! UCLA all the way! My father went to USC. . .my mother went to UCLA! The younger generation of our family are at the game now - sitting on both sides!! Score: UCLA 38 USC 14! The face connections and text messages are active!!!! Go Bruins!! (In this game, anything can happen - no real celebration until the game is over.

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Zac Brown Southern Ground Hdqtrs. in Gardner Park

is having a shee shee soiree tonight. Leadership Georgia, black tie, $150. a person. Staying at the Dolce, too. There are klieg lights, Hollywood signs, and more at this new headquarters. Is Zac getting into the movie business, too? I wonder.

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Wonder of Zack is wearing his usual watch cap with his tux?

Bet that gets hot in summer.

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POS Obama signs exec order TOMORROW

To legalize illegals.

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Hwy 54 today

Two things. Whoever let that PTC motorcycle cop out today must be nuts. He deserves hazardous duty pay and more. I don't care if his cruiser was broken down or if he made the choice himself, someone should have stopped him from patrolling in 35 degree weather with wind chills on a motorcycle.

The other thing. A traffic monitoring device is strapped to a pole at 54 and 74 again. Like the ones they used last spring to spend the 70 grand on that traffic study that got us what, exactly? Anyone know why/how much we are paying for this go around?

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Jon Lester Please Come Pitch HERE!!!

Please, please, please! Braves, do it, just do it. 20-25 million, worth it, sign him. He is a gamer, he is SUCH a good pitcher and yes, the Red Sox probably will get him, but he has a home right over in Sharpsburg, he shops at Publix in Sharpsburg and he now has a young family. Give him a free golf cart and a registration to our paths so he can bring the kids over to play. Just SIGN him!

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Turkey Talk by Gary Cooper

Yes, Gary Cooper is the chairman of the National Turkey Federation. Gary has just said, "We didn't have all the turkeys to fulfill demand" (EGAD!) "We could have literally sold more turkeys had we had them as an industry."

You know, we can put up with a lot of bad news in this country, but this just, just....well....is just really fowl news.

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Turkey Price Controls - MLC

Well now we will have those equalitarian folks on here demanding price controls because of "obscene profits" by Turkey Producers.

Gobble, gobble.......

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Yep, had something to do with the uncertainty over the price of corn, which is fed to the gobblers. I mean, is nothing sacred anymore? He said we are at a 30 year low in turkey production. We all know what that means...........ham!!!

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Corn subsidies - MLC

Now I know this is going to sound kind of crazy, I have been called worse BTW. I am a bit of an analyst and one day I was wondering how much productive acreage was taken for bio-fuel. I mean I was curious that if all of the acreage for producing corn for bio-fuel was taken out of human corn consumption acreage, how many people would it feed per year.

The result was approximately 100 million people could be fed enough to stay alive each year. The price of corn has been inflated about 10X for human consumption and the amount of water needed to make one gallon of ethanol is about 1,300 gallons per acre. Water depletion is a major issue in the food belt.

There is no real evidence that ethanol/gasoline mixture is a net benefit to mankind, it benefits only corn belt politicians and agra-business that contribute to politicians.In fact, It also helps increase the price of gasoline. AKA crony capitalism.

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I was thinking seafood

Really. First year we aren't Travelling to either family. No one wants turkey. They want lobster and seafood.

Since I am taking a few days off to spend with the wife and kids, I won't be near my ATL fresh seafood connection. Is there any place close by that sells good fresh seafood this time of year?

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H&F - Seafood

I haven't been there in a while but this market has really fresh fish.

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Hancock Gourmet Lobster Co.

Not local, mail order, but as fresh as you can get. Out of Maine, my family is living all over the country and has used them for years and have never had a problem. Highly recommend if you can afford the shipping. We only do it on special occasions, but what they have is a treat. Last month, had lobster rolls and stew as a gift. I can still taste it. Oh, and whoopie pies for dessert for a fun change of pace....delish, too.

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Thank you both

PTCO and MLC

I will look at both.

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Normal seafood place?

H&F, what is your normal ATL seafood source?

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Atlanta Fish Market on Pharr Road
or sometimes I venture out to the Farmers Market slightly north of the perimeter on Buford Hwy. (Its the only place I can find bluefish)

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Jay Hey gone to play for Cardinals

now. Buh, bye, Jay.

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MLC & Jay

Great defensive player, mediocre offensive player, good teammate, occasional non-hustler.

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AHG Hey

Yes, I agree, and my guess is they will do a gut job (already started) for the next few years till the new stadium and that revenue comes rolling in and then might just get some big talent either to open in Cobb or shortly thereafter.

I have enjoyed watching them on tv, except for this last year, that was really painful. I wish him well. Now, Mr. Stanton in Florida...wowza. With these salaries, I wonder where the player gets their motivation to even go out and get dirty every day! Some just don't (BJ and post-steroids Uggly, as examples).

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MLC & Motivation

Well some guys will go out there and get dirty every day, all day. Remember Martin Prado, that All-star 2d/3d Baseman we sent to Arizona as part of the Upton deals? He who is now a Yankee and meanwhile we don't have a real 2d Baseman and a questionable 3d Baseman. Real smart, huh?

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AHG Not real smart

You are right. See my comment above about Jon Lester. Same type of player as Prado. I watched Jon Lester since before he had cancer years ago. He came back from that healthier and stronger than ever. He is no-nonsense, he is truthful and like Prado, he has a tremendous work ethic. And, he knows how to win the playoff games. 31 years old? Still worth the money, I say.

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MLC & Lester

Oh I agree with trying to get Lester and I think we'll get plenty of strong innings from Miller too. Of course that would give us 3 LH Starters--which is not necessarily a bad thing. I don't think the Heyward trade was a bad one at all---but only time will tell. And Lester sounds like a great Clubhouse guy! I did like Jordan Walden too, but he just wasn't the same after returning off the DL--velocity still up but wildness was his demon.

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AHG Hype

for Heyward was way more than needed and I think it gave him a sense of himself that was way more than his talent. Like they did with Jeff Francoeur. Maybe Heyward will do better in St. Louis. Lester was the first to come clean about the drinking in the clubhouse. I blame Josh Beckett and Terry Francona for that little adventure. Actually, it was kind of funny to us Red Sox fans. Lester has matured and knows he can be a record setter as a pitcher and does not let any hoopla get to him. Walden made me hold my breath, with his foot jump and the wildness...I would not have liked to have faced him!

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Hwy 74 Horizon Investor Q Club

or whatever it is behind Clothes Less Travelled....what the heck is going on back there? 2 PD cruisers sitting a the entrance with orange cones, and a 3rd cruiser in the parking lot. What are they selling back there, anyway? Anyone know?

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MLC - Overstock clothes sale

Each year an outfit come in and sells overstocked items and the prices are really cheap. Only been there once but if you get there early you can pick up some really good bargains on name brand clothing products. I think they do it only twice a year and the clothes come from major retailers.

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PTC-O Thanks

I never knew that place was back there or never paid attention before, I guess. Even though this is probably stuff the local storefronts no longer sell, it cannot be good for them to have locals spending their money there instead of in their stores. Oh well, life goes on and spending is good, right? lol

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Tomorrow is the last day

They restock with new items each day. My wife has been 3 times this week and she claims she got great deals on designer items. I went today and didn't see anything for me, but I did buy high count cotton sheets for a king bed for $30.

My wife is sending me back in the morning because they brought out some shirts at closing time she thought I would like.

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H&F how long you lived here?

Sounds kinda like that place up off I-85 just south of Union City on the right that we used to go to and buy linens and more. It was a brand name company warehouse type of place. Is that even there any more? Haven't been there for years. Speaking of sheets, flannel is IT for me now, for the winter. LL Bean flannel, nothing less. Brrrr.

Yes, your wife is right, you could use some new ones......:) (just kidding now)

Light bulbs, I am going to do a rant on them, soon. Look out...

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mlc. , that linen outlet used to be outside of Newnan for years,

can't remember what little town it was in--I think it was the Cannon outlet. At that time it was located right on the same grounds with the factory. I went there at least once a month, this was back in the 70's and 80's. I think the same people may have moved off of 1-85 when the factory (mill) closed, but it was never as good as far as I was concerned. Just a few weeks ago when my daughter was visiting she noticed I had some VERA pillowcases that were very pretty and she was impressed that her old mother had VERA WANG pillow cases, I told her I had those before Vera Wang became VERA WANG. I had stuck them away and forgotten them, now I am very au courant! The old outlet carried much better merchandise at very good prices. I got Ralph Lauren and several other known names there. The only problem is you never knew what was going to be in stock when you went but I sure do miss it.

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mlc. , that linen outlet used to be outside of Newnan for years,

can't remember what little town it was in--I think it was the Cannon outlet. At that time it was located right on the same grounds with the factory. I went there at least once a month, this was back in the 70's and 80's. I think the same people may have moved off of 1-85 when the factory (mill) closed, but it was never as good as far as I was concerned. Just a few weeks ago when my daughter was visiting she noticed I had some VERA pillowcases that were very pretty and she was impressed that her old mother had VERA WANG pillow cases, I told her I had those before Vera Wang became VERA WANG. I had stuck them away and forgotten them, now I am very au courant! The old outlet carried much better merchandise at very good prices. I got Ralph Lauren and several other known names there. The only problem is you never knew what was going to be in stock when you went but I sure do miss it.

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Mytmite-Westpoint Stevens maybe?

I just cannot place the name. They had a junky sign on the fence along side the property that you saw from I 85. You had to go up to Shannon Mall exit and turn right and right again between the car dealers. Before Oakley Ind Blvd. was connected at the RR tracks. Yes, it was an adventure every time, never knew what you would find. But that was part of the fun of going, I guess. I remember my first and only satin sheets...chocolate brown...man, were they slippery! Then, the factory outlet stores popped up in Locust Grove and I guess I stopped going there. From satin to flannel, such is the story of my life...sigh. Off I go.

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MLC, just re-read your post. If I am not mistaken, the one you

mention is the one that opened after the mill (Westpoint-Pepperell?) closed. They may still be open. Went there several times and did not really care for it---too much junk included with a few good things. The original was, as I said in other post, in Westpoint. Ah, the good old days! Guess I really am ready to embrace old age since I like the past better than the present--can only hope for improvement for the future. LOL

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Westpoint-Pepperell sounds like it. The town was Westpoint-Duh!

In fact if I am not mistaken the mill was the whole town!.. Lived in Newnan then so went from Newnan the back way. I can imagine how you felt sliding around in those satin sheets! Especially Chocolate Brown ones--boy were you stylin'! I went to several outlets after that one closed but none seemed to be as nice or carry merchandise that was that nice and reasonable, maybe that was because it was right there at the factory/mill. . I got quite a few things there that I could not have afforded otherwise. Sometimes you would find part of a set and buy it hoping you would find the rest later---that's the reason I ended up with Vera Wang pillowcases--never found the sheets!

Hate to sound like an old fuddy duddy but sure enjoyed the way things were back then a lot more that was is around now. Back then even going to an outlet store was fun, not so much anymore.

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MLC & Outlet

Try West Point-Pepperell and I've been in unincorporated FC since Sep 1986.

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Gym Yes

That is the one. Thank you!

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Been here 11 years

Still like PTC too. It's the first I heard of this place, but I'm told they've been doing it for years.

Enjoy getting into a nice cool and clean bed at night. Will wash the new sheets tomorrow, then try em out.

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Twenty for me

And I had not heard of it either.

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MLC - Light bulbs

can't wait, talk about crony capitalism. GE and Jeff Immelt are benefiting enormously on this "green" regulation. Just another one of Mr. Obama's rich friends. Of course GE also just happens to contribute a lot to the Obama campaigns, the last one over $500,000 not including PAC contributions controlled or influenced by Immelt.

Let's hear your rant on why we pay $40 for a light bulb and the Chinese pay .10 cents. Oh yes, I forgot to mention that all the incandesce lights are now made by the Chinese with technology exported by GE.

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PTC O Soon

My flannel sheets are calling.....I'm still thawing out from Kroger
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Braelinn Kroger alert

Stay away till Tuesday at least. The temperature in that store was in the 50's today. Phil Thorne, mgr., said both roof heating units are broken and the units are obsolete and parts are just about nowhere to be found. Of course, they have not done anything to replace them with the remodel going on, so he is hoping they have at least a partial fix coming Tuesday. Both side walls of the store are now exposed concrete block to the outside weather and they have put plastic wrap over them above the coolers, bread and veggie sections. Coldest spell yet, payday week before Thanksgiving and no heat for your shopping pleasure.

Of course, if you enjoy running through January weather in the northeast, go in and shop along the refrigerated section in the back of the store tomorrow or Monday..you will have a blast.

The good news? They smooth-cemented over that gawd awful paver bump brick strip as you come out of the store so now you don't crack your dozen eggs as you cart them back to your car.

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AJC Website

Anyone see the change? I think they have been bought out by Marvel comics. To think print journalism has stooped that low to cater to what looks like a 15 year old and younger mentality. Just my opinion.

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ajc.com

looks like crap and the web design staff must have been on acid.

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Nuk No kidding

I emailed them this morning (they have a special email for comments about the new design) and one of my milder comments was that their decision makers must have been on crack!

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