Work begins soon on temporary traffic light for West F’ville Bypass

There have been plenty of improvements to the intersection at Ga. Highway 54 and the West Fayetteville Bypass in the past few weeks. But perhaps the most important improvement will be the installation of the traffic signal expected in October.

Fayette County Public Works Director Phil Mallon on Monday said the the Georgia Department of Transportation’s Traffic Management and Control section is expected this week to approve a temporary traffic signal.

The contractor will require up to three weeks to install the signal that will essentially be wood poles and wires, followed by a DOT-required 7-10 day period where the installed traffic signal must “blink” only.

Mallon said the county expects the signal to be fully operational sometime around the third week in October.

The permanent traffic signal will come later. Mallon said a design issue with the permanent mast arm for the traffic signal led to the potential for a re-design on the unit. If the re-design occurs, it will likely be ready for installation a couple of months after the temporary traffic light is in place, Mallon said.

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Birdman, Perhaps There Is An Error

I thought this article was pertaining to a very unsafe intersection. It is the intersection where Amy Layton lost her life. Perhaps, Amy Layton would still be here if there had been a traffic light at the intersection on that fateful day.

However, the county, the commissioners, the DOT and/or the contractors were in such a hurry to open the intersection that it was opened too soon.

Too little too late!

Too much too soon!

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ginga1414...My Bad

You're right, I thought I was replying to the Letter entitled "County commissioners ignore voters, press on with West Bypass." Sorry. My comments certainly weren't meant for the article regarding a traffic light. I was really commenting on the insane fear of "developers" in the letter I thought I was responding to. Oh well, high tech mouse clicking may not be my strong suit.

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Birdman, I Understand Completely

High tech anything isn't my strong suit. If it weren't for my son's expertise, I wouldn't be here responding to folks on this computer. I'm just here pushing buttons. If they work, they work. If the don't, they don't. If they don't work, I call my son.

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FEAR THEM....FEAR THEM ALL!

That's right, we must stop them at all costs....they are taking us over and soon we will all be destroyed. No, not Islamic Terrorists, but the....dare I say it....the evil "DEVELOPER"! There, I said it.

Really, here is my prediction. The West Village Bypass will be opened, we will all use it to avoid downtown Fayetteville and it's associated traffic issues, it will lessen the traffic downtown and we will all remark how nice it is to be able to stay out of the traffic. Just like Home Depot and Wal Mart in PTC. It was the "evil developers" who (now this sounds familiar), along with their "bought and payed for" City Council shoved this horrible, unwanted big box down our throats. A certain Commissioner Elect won the PTC Mayoral election on that very argument. Now this Commissioner Elect who will remain nameless (his initials are SB) won the Commission hugely in part to his opposition of the Bypass. Well, his predictions regarding Wal Mart and Home Depot didn't come true (huge crime, etc) and we in PTC are constantly shopping there thus keeping our sales tax dollar in our own community, driving less (saving gas), and have the luxury of running to Home Depot when we need a small item for that project that we forgot.
Same with the Bypass.
As for the "rampant development) predicted, one can only hope. That would mean that the Recession is over and the economy is back. My guess, housing starts are weak, the economy is struggling, and the ability to sell thousands of homes, even in an "Eden" like Fayetteville is probably not going to happen.
So, find a different "evil force," the "evil developer" is on hiatus.

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Would you please explain how using the West Bypass would enable a large enough volume of motorists to avoid downtown Fayetteville to make a difference? Nobody else has yet been able to do that. In fact, it's a subject the commissioners won't touch with a ten foot pole. It looks to me like it is too far away from Fayetteville to make a difference, and it doesn't have a viable destination in terms of reducing traffic. So how about giving us some examples of cases where one now has to go through Fayetteville to get from Point A to Point B, but won't have to when the WFB is opened for business? The problem is, Point B is nowhere. Going to Riverdale from South Fayetteville takes ten minutes on State 85. It would take 20 minutes detouring via the WFB. Going to State 74, you have to exit at Sandy Creek Rd. (current termination point) and then sit at a railroad crossing.

If the county had been willing to do that, maybe there would have been less criticism of the project.

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Good points pips1414

Actually good questions. To be quite honest you may be right. According to what I read it will lead to an intersection on GA. 92 near I-85. My guess is that it will give faster access to I-85 by going north to the Hwy 138 entrance. Additionally it may someday lead to an off ramp at Hwy 92 for I-85 relieving traffic at Union City exit or PTC/Fairburn exit. Now I know that's counting on a lot of foreward thinking. It also provides a much better access to Fairburn from Fayetteville. But as a PTC resident who often goes to Southlake, I can see, depending on access, etc. using the bypass to get to Hwy 138 (maybe not). Right now we go Hwy 54 all the way which is very inconvenient. Additionally it may have a possible routing to the Pavillion clearing up the White Road route. Of course that is all dependent on access, etc. But it certainly provides a greater access to I-85.
But my only point is the stupid "developer" argument that is constantly harped upon. We heard that argument for 4 years in PTC from Brown and his minions. Now we will hear it for 4 more years from Brown. Truth is that development is almost dead right now. Truth is that developers will develop in boom times no matter what the road situation. Truth is that the county will grow at some point in the future despite the bypass. Truth is that we live in homes built by developers (didn't hear Steve Brown rail against the developer of his house).
There may be lots of reasons to build or not build the bypass. But it presents an opportunity to relieve traffic. To stop it now I think would result in greater detriment than finishing it.
As I said, Brown made lots of predictions about PTC if Wal Mart was built. Lots of promises to "stop development." Used the City Council to spend more than $1,000,000 to buy 5 acres that to this day sit idle, solely to stop development. Blamed EVERY evil on developers. But the result is that we all use Wal Mart frequently. It's extremely convenient. As is the Target shopping center that Brown vowed to prevent. If you ask the average PTC citizen they will most likely tell you they are glad to have access to the shopping. At least the amount of cars in the parking lots seem to indicate this.
So how about before we Knight "Sir" Steve for his vision and staunch lack of support, we see how the bypass works out. After all, it is going to be completed.
As I said, my guess is a lot of people will end up using it.

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You don't save any time taking the Bypass from PTC to Riverdale. All the trouble is in Fulton and Clayton Counties, and we can't do anything about that. Look at how Highway 314 goes from 4 to 2 lanes when it hits the Clayton County line. Westbridge Road hits a 3 way stop sign at Old 138 that should only stop the intersecting traffic for the much heavier volume on Westbridge. Tried to get it modified...no luck! A few hundred yards to the North is a MARTA stop on Highway 138. From there, at rush hour, 138 is very heavy at Old National Highway. Try turning left onto state 85 from 138 at 5:30 P.M. The real traffic is Highway 85, and it needs the East Bypass if it needs anything. Our rush hour thru Fayetteville is 10 minutes on a very heavy day...usually less.

Another problem is that you will get twice as much traffic to PTC FROM Riverdale as TO Riverdale. PTC will grow like Florida, where the state troopers said that the influx of vehicles was enough to sink the state. The only problem is that it will grow in a way we don't like. Are you in favor of bus lines and rail transit, too? They sound expedient, but few want to live near them and what they bring to the rural characteristics we now enjoy. We don't even have a real "rush hour" compared to Stockbridge and Northside Atlanta. I bit the bullet driving into ATL for over 35 years, and I got very impatient, like so many others now do. But now, I am now glad I made the transportation sacrifice to get away from rampant development. It was worth it all.

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Once Again

Once again, this is just another example of putting the cart before the horse. The county is buying homeowners property and houses before they have the 404 Permit.

It is just another case of too little too late.

However, purchasing property before they have the Permit is too much too soon.

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