FREE SPEECH for week of Sept. 10 – 16

With the feel of fall in the air, it's a new week of Free Speech.

Registered users, post about whatever crosses your mind, on topic or off topic.

Here's one that will move no national needles or show up on any Gallup Poll; categorize it under local pet peeves.

Local bicycle enthusiasts have long demanded motorists scrupulously obey every law regarding the cyclists' rights to "share the road." Most two-wheelers, however, are not so similarly concerned about their own observance of common traffic laws — laws, by the way, that apply equally to them as to motorists. For example, once in my entire adult life, I have observed ONE bicycle rider stop at a stop sign. One rider, one time. Never before or since. They just blast on through. Exceptions: When the rider is faced with a busy four-lane road, the rider will often grudgingly pause briefly until traffic clears, then dart through the intersection, whether the light is red or green.

Second local pet peeve: I have noticed along Peachtree City's roads of late a new phenomenon: Joggers who jog on the city streets, running on the pavement in the same direction as traffic, while a cart path parallels the road a few feet away. And some were jogging at twilight, in dark clothing. This practice is not just rudely inconvenient for passing motorists, it is just unadorned idiocy. Have you seen such idiots? Or are you one of those idiots, and what on earth can you be thinking?

Here are a couple of more contributed entries to prime the pump:

"The FCBOE needs to wake up. If they do not close Brooks and Tyrone Elementary Schools along with the other closures, there will be a lot more Fayette County people without jobs. It is time for the Board to stop babying the parents in this county and stand up to them and close the schools that need to be closed. You do not have enough staff to let go to make up the 20 million required. The students will be teaching themselves because there will be no staff there due to the parents in this county always getting what they want. Stand up, FCBOE, and make a tough decision. Close the schools."

And this one from Tyrone:

"With the ever increasing code enforcement violations observed in Tyrone; such as illegal signs, illegally parked trucks, yard and property maintenance violations, etc. I would like to know why the Tyrone Council refused for more than 4 years, and continues to refuse, to hire a Code Enforcement Officer. Even a part-time Code Enforcement Officer! No other known city or town in Georgia of similar size is without a Code Enforcement Officer. Let’s bring the town up to the standards people have moved here to expect."

OK, Free Speechers, start your engines!

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Cash pouring in

so are the 47% that were mentioned in Romney's remarks pouring in cash to Obama. Interesting. With the money that is being collected for this 'election'/'power' - we could have paid down the deficit. Where are our priorities? To collect any taxes to provide services that the individual cannot provide for themselves is REDISTRIBUTION. WILL SOMEONE TELL US WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T SLIP BACK TO PRE-2008?

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They? DM

They? Who are they?

I assume "they" are the government, in your view?

Why don't we make "they" each individual and stop expecting "they" to do it for us, "they" don't have a very good track record saving us do they DM.

It's called personal responsibility, clearly a concept you reject in favor of a State Master.

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They=You PTCO

Stop addressing all people who don't agree with a good part of your ideology as one entity. I am not an individual who in any form or fashion considers myself as a victim - honey I'm a winner by any stretch of the imagination! I over pay, legally this 'government' annually! My dedication to hard, honest work is due to my faith and my personal responsibility . You and Romney are using talking points that have become irrelevant because it includes a too broad spectrum of American citizens.
You may want to disenfranchise all government workers - but with the proposed budget cuts, some of them will be in the unemployment lines and on food stamps. (A real saving of money? - and we see very little effort of the 'job providers' actually providing those private sector jobs to meet the need of American workers ). By the way, Obama supporters raised 11 million more than Romney supporters last month. It will be a close race! Oct. 3 is an important date. All it takes is one or two more gaffs - and the feeble attempts to defend them by Romney. Ron Paul or John Huntsman would have looked more presidential at this point .

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DM - Did I

Did I call you a victim? I don't recall writing that. However, I was responding your cry to have them tell us what they were going to do....

I am certain that you are a winner, you happen to live in the best country in the world, it's hard to be a loser in this country. Of course, we do have many that choose to use the government not to work. You do agree that there are just a few of these folks don't you? What percentage do you think that might be 1% or 10% or something other percentage? Certainly, you don't believe there are no people that choose to do this?

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If Romney wins we have to thank the Carters

Because of the release of the video.. Donors are piling cash into the Romney campaign. Independents, Libertarians and others are throwing their support to Romney.
Finally something the Teaparty, Libertarians and Ron Paul supporters can get behind.

One thing that is not being reported that was also said on the video was Romney's comments on QE3 and the Fed monetizing the debt.

He stated the Fed must be held accountable and is responsible for destroying our economy. He knows a disaster is coming...

Finally I have a reason to vote FOR him not just against Obama.

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You are very welcome SL
S. Lindsey wrote:

Libertarians and others are throwing their support to Romney. Finally something the Teaparty, Libertarians and Ron Paul supporters can get behind.

Of course your Teaparty, Libertarians and Ron Paul supporters should have been out working their tails off for Romney already instead of forcing him to pass their litmus tests over and over and pushing him more and more to the right, narrowing the Party's base instead of expanding it.

But just for fun, let's review those swing state, down ballot Republicans surging to Romney:

Meadows seeks distance from Romney's '47 percent' remarks

McMahon distances herself from Romney's remarks

GOP strategists alarmed over Romney and the 47 percent

Dean Heller Distances Himself From Mitt Romney's '47 Percent' Comments

Republican George Allen distances himself from Romney's '47%'

Susana Martinez Rejects Mitt Romney's "47 Percent" Comment

Red state blues

Linda Lingle Joins Other GOP Senate Candidates In Distancing Themselves From Mitt Romney

Congressional Republicans fear Romney's gaffes are hurting their Nov. 6 prospects

7 Republicans running from Mitt Romney's 47 percent remark

Mitt Romney: I'm for the '100 percent'

Did you see where the Romney campaign has pulled it's advertising from Wisconsin but Ryan just made a buy there for ads for his House seat?

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Jeff C

Jeff, I would like your thoughts on the following.

Georgia is seen as a solidly Red State.

But McCain won Georgia by less than 6% of the votes in 2008.

The Huffington Post poll compilation now has Romney leading in Georgia in 2012 by 49-45%.

Everybody knows that Romney will carry Georgia in 2012 but it seems something is changing in our state. Will Georgia follow Virginia and North Carolina in future Presidential elections?

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Not soon Lion

Demographics seem to suggest a longer term shift. According to the Sec. Of State, more than 95 percent of the voters in the 2010 Republican primary election were white. White voter registration has dropped by 11% since 2002 while black registration has increased by over 500,000. In 2000, there were only 8,000 registered Hispanic voters in Georgia compared to about 100,000 now.

If these trends continue, Democrats will eventually begin to win state and Congressional seats that are now Republican but how fast that happens is just a guess. With the extremist in control of the Party, they seem determined to drive hoards of their natural constituents away.

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One good thing about Romney's comment;

I always felt when certain people said "I saw myself as a victim - and entitled" - I thought they were talking about me personally. Now I know it was just one of the talking points used by SOME conservatives. Grateful for the clarification.

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One good thing about Owebama's comment;

When someone says "I actually believe in redistribution....", while having a current net worth exceeding $6 million himself, it is clear that the money he wants to redistribute is other people's, not his own. Grateful for the clarification, but I already knew.....

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Right Aid

Right Aid next door is going to always be closer for me.

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Very funny

PTCO, do you live in the Whitlock Ellis building next door?

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Across from Cracker Barrel in Fairburn

Anyone know what is going in across Hwy 74 from there? Just south of the hotel, the land is all cleared, and it's being cleared behind the stand of trees along the road down to the power lines. Years ago, the plan included a Lowe's and a huge Pavillion-like retail development with an access road running parallel to 74. Of course, that was when the money was flowing.

The manager at Cracker Barrel said he didn't know for sure, but had heard a Home Depot. A waitress had heard a WalMart.

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Walgreens-no big whoop there

I went once right after they opened. Spoke with the store mgr. and told him how much we didn't need or want his store. Spoke with the pharmacists about a test they run, he said they didn't have it available yet, but would and promised he'd call me when it became available. Took my information and what, 6 or more months later, still waiting for the phone call. Well, actually, not waiting.

I see the store manager has already been replaced once in less than a year. Place is like a giant warehouse, stained cement floors, high unfinished ceilings, ugly as all get out. Real empty, too, judging from the parking lot.

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MajorMike - Clarification regarding Boy Scouts

In no way was my post meant to be an attack against any particular candidate. It just happened that the recent picture with Romney is the one that I saw that prompted me to write. I did say that scouts can, and are encouraged to participate in government and civic activities through flag ceremonies, etc. That was not the case with the scouts in Utah. Scouts in uniform cannot be perceived as endorsing a political candidate or position. It's a thin line. I learned this from experience while a cub scout leader for 7 years. It's been several years, but we had a local politician who had asked our scouts to ride in uniform on his campaign float and toss candy during a parade. We learned from the Flint River Council that this was not acceptable, as it would appear as an endorsement for the candidate. I was only trying to give a heads up the selfless volunteers who donate their time to scouting organizations and avoid more public scrutiny.

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Elfie - Clarification

I did not perceive your comments as an attack at all. I am always open to any concern concerning Scouting policies and/or Scout activities. While I deeply appreciate your concerns about any event where there are uniformed Scouts (Class A or Class B) and agree with you about it being a thin line, I personally don't believe that Scouts being at the event in full Class A uniforms and presenting colors and/or meeting/shaking hands with a candidate crosses that line. Bearing in mind also that I have not seen the video.

The local instance you refer to "local politician who had asked our scouts to ride in uniform on his campaign float and toss candy during a parade" was indeed a no no and you absolutely did the right thing by calling the FRC offices for a consult. Our local Scouting District (Sepohayetv) Executive, Cindy Schuchardt - (cindy.schuchardt@scouting.org), is very knowledgable and is also a good resource.

I am still active in Scouting on the Executive Board but, after twenty years, in may be my last year due to health concerns. I have had the benefit of the training you refer to and it is, without question, excellent. My particular area of interest is youth protection and I have unfortunately, in the past, had the unpleasant experience/responsibility of addressing situations where individuals chose to use their own interpretations of BSA rules and regulations.

I would advise you to keep current with your service and your training/certifications. With three sons you never know when you are going to be active in the program again. Thank God for people like you who actually know what the program is about and ....... care.

YIS (Yours in Scouting)

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Scouts greeting Romney violated policy

Major Mike - you might be interested in this article from the Deseret news 9/20/2012 quoting Bryan Wendall, a senior editor of Scouting magazine, "that the incident does look like a violation of BSA policy". On his blog Wendall warns scouts and their leaders "the line between patriotism and political favoritism becomes thin" during election years. ww.deseretnews.com/article/865562860/Scouts-greeting-Romney-violated-policy-against-political-participation.html

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Still haven't been in the new Walgreens..

and I'm not planning on it either. :)

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Never been to that Walgreens and never will

Annoys the crap out of me that they tore Ruby Tuesday down. I go to Rite Aid right next door for my drugs - $700 to $800 per month. Screw Walgreens.

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Went once

I was looking forward to their entry in the pharmacy market because I thought that they had competitive pricing. Didn't find that to be the case and haven't been back. Also felt a bit like being in a grocery store and I have a grocery much closer to home..

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Boy Scouts greeting Romney at fund raiser

As the parent of three Eagle Scouts, I would like to remind all scout leadership that there are strict rules regarding scouts and political activities. While scouts may participate in flag ceremonies and such, they are not to wear their uniforms as a sign of support for any political candidates at any level. Although it's great photo op for the candidate, it's a thorny issue for the scouting community.
clause 6.

" The Boy Scouts of America shall not, through its governing body or
through
any of its officers, its chartered Councils, or members, involve the
Scouting movement in any question of a political character. However,
this
shall not be interpreted to prevent the teaching of patrotism and good
citizenship as required to fulfill the Corporation's purpose. This
policy
shall also not limit the freedom of thought or action of any official or
member as an individual."

Cub Scout Leader's Manual:
Chapter 7: Uniform Rules and Regulations
"The uniform may not be worn by either Cub Scouts or adult
leaders when: Involved in any distinctly political endeavor."

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Elfie - Misinterpretation

Let me be the first in this blogosphere to congratulate you and your family on the attainment of the Eagle award by your three sons - absolutely outstanding!

I fear you have to some degree misinterpreted the BSA guidelines and rules & regulations. Presenting the colors at any event or even attending does not imply endorsement of that cause. Scouts are routinely asked to present the colors at church gatherings, civic club events, Governmental meetings at all levels, funerals, and the list goes on forever. This is all sanctioned by BSA national under the "God & Country" part of the Scout oath as it should be. Remember that one of the Scout merit badges (citizenship) requires attendance at Govermental functions. It is a matter of service.

Lastly, the President of the United States is traditionally the "chief of the fire". Our current POTUS, instead of accepting the honor, publicly attacked BSA repeatedly on a number of moral issues. In that the Eagle certificate is normally signed by POTUS as chief of the fire, I honestly do not know if he EVER accepted the honor/position.

If you would like to pursue this further, I would be positivly thrilled to buy you a cup of coffee and spend some time or I can have our local district Scout executive call you to answer any questions you might have. Thank you for your service.

PS: My three sons (all grown) are also Eagle scouts. My oldest grandson will be starting Tiger Cubs this year.

PHILMONT GRACE

For Food, For Raiment
For Life, For Opportunity
For Friendship & Fellowship
We thank Thee, O Lord.

Philmont Scout Ranch, B.S.A.

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Apple stock has risen

87% since Oct. 5th, when Steve Jobs died. Hit $700. a share this morning. Can't wait to see where it goes next month when the Mini Pad comes out.

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James Earl Carter IV

35 year old unemployed son of former president Jimmy Carter, who lives in Dunwoody, spends his time on You Tube, looking for 'ground-breaking video".

My question? Is Jimmy IV a part of the 47% or not? My guess, not. Cheesy attempt to discredit Romney. There are no lies in what Romney said. Even the 47% know that.

http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2012/09/18/your-morn...

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Busy little Jimmah the IV.....

35 years old, unemployed, spends his time on You Tube.....and he's a Democrat huh? Shocker. Must have taken a break from the Beavis and Butt-Head marathon on MTV to find that little nugget.

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Kudos to James Earl Carter IV

Good for James!

Romney will waste a week explaining his stupid remarks.

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Jeff C & James IV

So tell us Jeff, could James possibly have somehing to do with those missing minutes on the video? Strange that they would come at the critical time when Romney was making the controversial (but true) statement.

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Sort of like the time James wastes surfing the internet----guess

that beats breaking into peoples houses---

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Good that James...

...is unemployed? Unfortunately we have almost 4 years of stupid remarks, and acts, by the Obama administration that have yet to be explained - well, we can always HOPE...

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JeffC - Why?

Why do you think this is a waste? I think it actually exposes some central issues in this election cycle.

The fact is there are way too many people dependent on the government. I don't know if it's 47% but is way too many. So, given this I think a dialog on why this is a fact is essential to the process.

Personally, I think this works in Romney favor.

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Romney's own words

are making his campaign struggle. Mr. Carter was not the only one who felt that the country needed to hear these words from the candidates own mouth. Maybe one of the little people who was serving the $50,000.00 a plate dinner recorded the words - or not all of Romney's so called supporters are really in his corner. What was interesting was the almost verbatim use of the words of 'victims, entitlement, dependent' that are so often used to describe Obama's supporters. Wow! Every news program went to the charts to tell the truth about the so-called 47 million 'victims' who are supporting Obama. This clip was not only heard on Youturbe - but thanks Mr. Carter. No one can say the story is a lie - we heard the words from the 'horses' mouth!

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DM, WHERE DID I SAY THIS STORY IS A LIE?

WHERE?
ROMNEY SPOKE THE TRUTH, YOU DIMWIT.

Now, as with all other posts, I and others will just skip over your response(s). Go to it and continue to show your ignorance of reading skill comprehension.

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moe

Who are you?

Quote:

There are no lies in what Romney said. Even the 47% know that.

47% of Americans who support Obama claim victimhood, dependency on government, etc., etc., etc. Really?

Even Romney is trying to clean this up. How is your reading comprehension score? Did you hear/see the video?
Listen carefully:
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-romney-gop-47-percent-taxes-2...

The entire speech is on several news stations. Now he's even in more hot water.
As you see - this has gone nation wide Even Republicans and Romney are saying his words left the 'wrong impression'. 47 million Americans don't pay income tax. Not all of those are Demoxrats. 47% of Amercans voters don't claim victimhood or lack personal responsibility. Oh well - you're not reading this.

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Correction-Romney will not

waste a week. Romney doesn't waste weeks. He moves forward, regardless of the many ways others look to find lies that don't exist. The press will waste as much time as they have at their disposal (which is plenty, as we all know) to make a story that isn't a story. Romney speaks facts and is not stupid. Nothing he said was said in anger or with malice or was untrue. Obama spews hatred and bias to cover the facts of his lack of leadership over the last 3 plus years.

What a shame that James Earl Carter IV could not have more of a positive influence on our country than this. Maybe in the future, yes. Hopefuly, yes. I realize he is family, and you will support him regardless, as anyone would a family member, but this is just not the way.

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Moe, JECIV has great influence...

...as a (currently unemployed) 'opposition researcher'. Had to look that one up (but I don't think all of them have family money to live off while unemployed):

Opposition research (often referred to as oppo) is:
The term used to classify and describe efforts of supporters or paid consultants of a political candidate to legally investigate the biographical, legal or criminal, medical, educational, financial, public and private administrative and or voting records of the opposing candidate, as well as prior media coverage.

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With all due respect moelarrycurly,

What a crock.

moelarrycurly wrote:

What a shame that James Earl Carter IV could not have more of a positive influence on our country than this..

And what was it that James did that was not a positive influence on our country? He brought to light a video showing Mitt Romney speaking in his own words. I fully understand why the Romney people are horrified.

Romney won't blow a week on this? Guess again. He is notoriously off record and you know it. When can you remember him blasting the Obama administration about jobs, jobs, jobs? It was before the conventions wasn't it?

Now he and his campaign have to deal with this.

Romney: Remarks in leaked videos spoken 'off the cuff'

Romney struggles to steady campaign after secret videos

Wall Street Journal - Video Flap Jolts Campaign

Mother Jones Sees Record Traffic From Mitt Romney Video

A Mood of Gloom Afflicts the Romney Campaign

Devastating. They have no idea how to handle it yet.

Go nephew, go!

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Romney's world

Romney's comments on the video were made at a $50,000/plate fundraiser. He was playing to that crowd, he thought that he was in a freedom of fact zone. My opinion is that the net effect will be to inspire more voters to become active for the POTUS. I believe that over 50% of the population feels insulted by his comments.

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Not yet are people offended by Romney's comments

Despite the usual lefty media having a complete spazz over this, Gallup shows 47%(ironic isn't it?)Obama and 46% Romney today.

Romney has a great chance to go ahead and go "all in" in regards to this video because a lot of it is actually the truth. 47% of the people in the US don't pay a damn dime in federal taxes and over a third of them actually get "refunds" for federal taxes they never paid. Shocker.....these same people also believe that everyone else should pay more federal taxes!

Maybe not the best move politically out there, but sometimes the truth is unpleasant. How about this? Repeal ALL the Bush tax cuts. Every one of them. The 47% will howl for having to contribute to digging this country out of the financial mess it is in, but let's be "fair" now. Here's another: end the 2% payroll tax since it contributes to the every-growing ridiculousness of the Social Security deficit? Think the 47% are going to be happy with paying more taxes to secure SS? LOL...no way! They are ENTITLED to that!

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No way to spin Romney's comments in his favor.

Romney showed his contempt for half of the nation, including many of the people that normally vote Republican. Of those, it remains to be seen how many will opt out of this election.

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Romney Lied

He said 47% of Americans pay no Federal Taxes... HE LIED.. it is actually 49%.

So....I just thought I would go ahead and get that out there.

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Lindsey - That

That includes millionaires and billionaires, right?

The fact is that our tax system, income tax, etc. is completely corrupted by the politicians. Until we have a flat equal tax, fair tax, or whatever you want to call it, we will have either dependency on the government or people that are wealthy paying no taxes. Either way it's wrong.

Our problem started when we passed the 16th Amendment that allowed the politicians a bottomless pit of money they could then borrow against. 17 Trillion dollars later, we have a bankrupt nation.

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Too true PTCO

A flat or Fair tax structure would actually have all Americans "paying their Fair share" and "get some skin in the game" to rip-off a few quotes.

Taxes are not going to matter if Obama gets re-elected he will just re-distribute the wealth...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge3aGJfDSg4&t=50
"I Actually Believe In Redistribution"

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Fayette Districts Challenged: Pat Cooper scoops the story

http://www.fayettedailynews.com/display.php?id_newscat=1

"Attorney Charges Collusion in Redistricting Law Suit"

Like I said in April "New" Commission Map suspicious---- anytime a lawsuit is filed and then closed with a Consent Order in 12 days, you have to wonder what really happened. Lawyers can drag things out for years and this thing got done in less than 2 weeks with an army of lawyers? Nothing will come of this lawsuit (the Atlanta judge didn't even look at it the first time). It is just a black eye for how business gets done.

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New Racetrac

On Hwy 54 W, next to Planterra, we can say goodbye to the peaceful view of the pine trees and small forest, as the bulldozers are there today, ripping it all away to make room for the 20 pump Racetrac gas station and store. Sigh.

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Racetrack - open

24 hours? Nice touch for the residents living over there I am sure they will enjoy it and all the folks that will come in there at 3 AM. Nice family friendly environment.

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New Racetrac

By default....that's what we got.

Remember we fought Kohls and everything else that was proposed for that spot.

NO BIG BOXES or smaller BIG BOXES.

It appears that PTC may become the gas station capital along Highway 54.

Wouldn't Racetrac be considered a BIG BOX gas station? 20 pumps yikes!

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They should have worked with Kohls..

That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

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Anyone tried Gremlin Growlers?

I could use a nice IPA this weekend by the pool/grill.

Noticed they are open near Big Daddy's.....

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Yes. You should like it if you enjoy fresh quality beer. I will be going back. Their selection is currently local craft beer.

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SPQR & "local craft beer"

Just what does "local craft beer" mean? What Brewery?

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AHG

as described to me by the head gremlin, breweries in Georgia

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Guess that means plenty of Sweetwater

Sweetwater, Red Brick,Terrapin(blech),Jailhouse, stuff made in some guy's basement :) Any others?

I'm going to check it out this weekend. I have to say, the last time I bought beer in 1/2 gallon containers was in college and it sure wasn't "local craft," it was more like Michelob on tap at a gas station that you poured yourself into what was probably once a milk carton. Guzzling it right out of the jug seemed to work pretty well back then :)

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I tried the red brick Hoplanta IPA. 6.7 ABV If you like hopped up beer(like Sierra Nevada) You'd probably like this stuff. I'm a former longtime home brewer and a trifle picky and I liked it.

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SPQR: Sierra Nevada

Wow, too bad it's a work night because I'm getting thirsty now. Love Sierra Nevada Pale Ale and a couple of their seasonal beers like the Celebration at Christmas time are really good.

About 7-8% is my limit. Beers like Three Philosophers and some of the other exotics that are double digits give me a headache within 30mins of drinking them and I don't think they are quality, just jacked-up stuff in a bottle.

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HEY, NUK!!

I like most of Terrapin beers! Not so much of Sweetwater's; not had Red Brick or Jailhouse, but will be on the lookout for them!

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I have enjoyed a few of the Jailhouse samplings..

It is made in Hampton, GA.

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Red Brick and Jailhouse are tasty

I have always been a little disappointed in Sweetwater, even though it's quite a "local" success story and they have done really well. Their beer is sold all over the country these days. The 420 and their IPA just aren't all that great to me for the money. Much better brews out there and available at a place like Taco Mac or the alcoholic's dream store, World of Beverage in Tyrone.

I will say one thing about Sweetwater, they know how to market their stuff. A few years ago they were raising money to help clean up the Chattahoochee River(good luck!) and were giving away T-shirts with the cool Sweetwater logo that said "I gave my liver for the river." LOL.

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I 'm on the same page with Sweetwater. I think the Growler place will let you sample

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Sweetwater

For the same price as Sweetwater I can buy comparable and superior beers from all over the world. Sweetwater is brewed in Midtown - they should pass on the savings they're not paying in transport to us - as it is they're unduly profiting from local customers and that irks me. But the beer is certainly decent.

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Amen. I've always been a little mystified about the pricing for Sweetwater.
I really don't understand why the competition doesn't eat their lunch.

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Spyglass & IPA

If you can find it, suggest Mugshot IPA from Jailhouse Brewery. I know Johnnys Pizza has Jailhouse beers.

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Jailhouse

I bought that Mugshot IPA at Katie's and it was really good. But it was like $5.50 for 22oz, or was it $7.50? Either way, a special occasion-only beer.

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Citizen Steve &Jailhouse Beer`

On Thursdays, you can get Mugshot IPA for $2.95@16oz at Johnny's Pizza! Everyday price is $3.95 which I don't think is bad compared with some others.

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Johnny's Pizza

Thanks for the tip, Johnny's has good pizza too, I'll definitely have to make it there on a Thurs.

Steve

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Jailhouse IS pricey

It's almost up there with the Dead Guy Ale family of beers which are very, very good, but $$$$. Same with Samuel Smith beers...great and pricey.

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Gremlin Growlers

Back when the earth was cooling off, we used to put them on our bicycles. If I recall, they made one heck of a roar going down the street. :-)

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Cy & Growlers

No Cy, those were Playing Cards attached with clothespins!

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No, AHG...

...those were Topps sports trading cards that would probably have been worth big $$$ today! I had one of the All-Pro HOF center Jim Langer from the '72 undefeated Dolphins that was worth - when I checked about 10 yrs. ago - $75! It was stolen in a PCS move, though. I'd like to know what I had on my spokes so many years ago!!

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Joy Walker and B. HUSSEIN OBAMA

Think the country will wake up before Nov. 6th? Making excuses for the slaughter of our US Ambassador? What will it take to get everyone to understand we are under attack?

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EXcellent cut and paste! Would you do the same for the preacher who burned the Quran? I remember the denigration of Catholics in previous years; the denigration of Jews; and the denigration of Christians. We are a country who RESPECTS the freedom of religion - not the freedom to HATE. Intolerance should be under attack - no matter the source. Are you now saying that Americans of the Muslim faith are to be denigrated - or those who use their faith to practice ignorant prejudice (like the members of a church who stopped the wedding of their black members from taking place in 'THEIR' edifice?) We have a member in Congress of the Muslim faith. Are you advocating putting him out? I respect your right to your opinion - but the enemy is not the Muslim faith (Islam) - but the radicals who are using it as an instrument of hate. (In the 50's , there were some Christian churches who did the same thing - by not allowing all Americans to worship in their edifices. We've come a long way since then.) Sorry Joy Walker - you want it both ways. Hate Obama because of his Christian minister, Rev. Wright - or hate Obama because of your cut and paste PROOF that he is a Muslim. Someone did that with Mrs. Sherrod - and that backfired. Stick to jobs and the economy - the American people have caught on to this ploy.

There are Americans who have been exposed to many faiths. Obama was exposed to and had an understanding of Islam. He chose Jesus and Christianity. Jesus was a role model for 'community organizers'.

Gallup Presidential Poll (through Sept. 10)

Obama - 50% Romney - 44%

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In the next week

let's all see how many Muslim leaders, in this country and anywhere in the world publicly come out and condemn, in no uncertain terms, the slaughter of our US Ambassador and 3 US citizens.

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Arab American Leaders

Attacking leaders of countries who oppose our freedoms is valid. Attacking a religion is ignorant. We have Arab Americans - who are Muslims - that are being attacked by thoughtless ignorance. Are all Atheists Hiltler? Are all southern ministers Quran burners? THERE WERE ARAB AMERICANS WHO DIED ON 9/11. Attack the ignorant hate - not a religion. Not all Americans were segregationists; not all Americans are haters. We are portrayed as such because of our hypocrisy that is published regarding our freedom of religion vs. the thoughts expressed by the actions and words of SOME.

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"Attacking leaders of countries....

....who oppose our freedoms is valid."

People who come onto websites and advocate attacking leaders are quite dangerous.

People who advocate attacking anyone are very dangerous.

As the world has just witnessed in the slaughter in Libya. And on here.

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Attacking

with words. I agree - dangerous. Retaliating with violence - dangerous. One may live from a word attack. To voice an opinion - the American way.

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From the Arab Spring!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/graphic-photos-allegedly-show-attempt-to...

Horrible foreign policy miscalculation by the Obama administration and NATO!

Get all of our people out ASAP.

GP

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Politics as usual GP?

Those pictures are a reminder of the danger that all foreign service people expose themselves to in order to protect our country. The loss is devastating. Foreign policy miscalculation? Those are Libyans trying to rescue him and they got him to the hospital. His body was not left in the street to be mutilated by the haters.. Miscalculations? Iraq? This was a calculated attack on our country by a small group of 'haters'. IMO. Did anyone here see the video that caused this tragedy? Supposedly humorous? No wonder the person responsible for the video is in hiding. As a Christian - I find it's reference to the holy birth disgusting and denigrating to my religion. What a piece of trash! Christians should be after this idiot!!

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That's Right Joy

Who wouldn't choose a community organizer over a successful businessman for president? Are you a racist? (that part was to be added by DM, just thought I would beat her to it).

DM, Conservatives pray that the Dems try to run on Jobs and the Economy, instead I am sure we will only see more of the Hate and Divisiveness.. At this point that is the only card Obama has left....no. not incomplete, he is totally complete...as a FAILURE, he gets an "F"! -GP

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Who wouldn't choose a community organizer over a successful businessman for president?

Maybe those who lost their jobs and health insurance after he closed some businesses in order for his investors to profit? In spite of SOME 'conservative's opinion' - this president has:

. Kept us from a depression
. Brought MANY of those who killed Americans on 9/11 to justice
. Passed an Affordable Health Care Bill which even Romney now states he will keep certain parts of it that he supports. (No wonder - since Romenycare was the forerunner of Obamacare)
. Saved the auto industry
. (and because it is an intelligence issue) Kept Iran from getting Nuclear Weapons.

IF Romney wins - it will be interesting to see what he does with the complex issues of today's world.

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And, DM...

. Kept us from a depression (AND in doing so drove the nation into a debt YOUR great-grandchildren will bear)
. Brought MANY of those who killed Americans on 9/11 to justice (AND they are? I know we killed OBL; who else was brought to 'justice'? I assume you mean in a US court of law?)
. Passed an Affordable Health Care Bill which even Romney now states he will keep certain parts of it that he supports. (No wonder - since Romenycare was the forerunner of Obamacare) (So he copied a STATE program, didn't bother to read it (or anyone for that matter), and shoved it down everyone's throat)
. Saved the auto industry (some of it, and cost-cutting & reorganization would have been better instead of sticking taxpayer w/ the bill - see 'FORD MOTOR CO. - ,and the unions who will vote for him)
. (and because it is an intelligence issue) Kept Iran from getting Nuclear Weapons. (AND, HUH??! You know this how?! Here's something from your beloved NYT: 'The report by the International Atomic Energy Agency, the last to be issued before the American presidential election, lays out in detail how Iran has used the summer to double the number of centrifuges installed deep under a mountain near the holy city of Qum, while cleansing another site where the agency has said it suspects that the country has conducted explosive experiments that could be “relevant” to the production of a nuclear weapon.'

He tried, he failed, time to MOVE ON!

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Kept us from a depression (AND in doing so drove the nation into a debt YOUR great-grandchildren will bear)

Come on KC - we had a surplus before Bush (I know, I know) but sometimes you guys just need to face the truth. If we hadn't had a deficit before Obama - we wouldn't have one to add to. WE DIDN'T FALL OFF THE CLIFF. Right?
Now the illustrious Speaker of the House is stating that he doesn't see this Congress doing anything to improve the situation (jobs bill) until after the election. The American people are being held hostage!! (By the incompetents that we send to Congress - regardless of 'party')

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(AND they are? I know we killed OBL; who else was brought to 'justice'? I assume you mean in a US court of law?)

Ever hear of the #1 and #2 , etc. leaders of Al Queda – now dead?

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(AND, HUH??! You know this how?! Here's something from your beloved NYT: 'The report by the International Atomic Energy Agency, the last to be issued before the American presidential election, lays out in detail how Iran has used the summer to double the number of centrifuges installed deep under a mountain near the holy city of Qum, while cleansing another site where the agency has said it suspects that the country has conducted explosive experiments that could be “relevant” to the production of a nuclear weapon.'

Gee, I guess you didn’t hear about that computer glitch that hampered an Iranian test? See what you want to and I’ll see what I want to. That’s called difference of opinion – and that’s the American way. I’m sickened at the way certain individuals want to poiticize this latest tragedy implemented by ‘haters’.

Certain people in this country tried hard to make Obama's administration 'fail'. They tried. We're awake. And Romney is not the answer to continued progress forward. We raised more money last month than the so-called wealth supporters of Romney. We'll be at the voting booths with all of the necessary ID's. It's being kept quiet - but there is a lot of enthusiasm for the Obama patient perseverance to move our country forward. . . with ALL AMERICANS participating. (And about this 'class- warfare/ jealousy of wealth crap. Kennedy was wealthy, Bush was wealthy, Reagan wasn't exactly 'poor', etc., etc., etc. - but these men all had an understanding of those who were not. Romney and Ann are wonderful human beings - but gosh, so out of touch. To tell you the truth - I don't think Romney will be as 'right' as some Republicans believe. His vagueness will allow him to do what is necessary for the country - but he will do/say anything to get elected. That is appealing to some. Is it enough?

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DM, I'll give him...

...a pass on the auto industry; any pol would probably have done something like that, but reorganization & cost-cutting wouldn't help the unions.

We had a deficit when he took office and we HAD to add to it? Don't get that one; Bush's stimulus failure should have been a clue for him.

I didn't realize killing Al Queda leaders was considered 'justice'; I consider it part of the war that crazy ol' Bush started - glad we're getting it done for you. You must approve, albeit it's what helped propel the deficit, so, then, you don't approve? Pick one, DM. I thought you meant the terrorists they have in hand and still - after 3 1/2 years - have no idea how to prosecute them.

So it WAS the US that caused that cyber attack? Didn't know that was public knowledge, but it did slow them down; they ain't done yet, though, as my NYT post shows.

I have always said I'd give Obama the same respect our former President H.W. Bush received from his naysayers. Btw, the DNC is over; put down that cup of Kool-Aid!

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Think I'll keep the cup in hand - to ride out the 'ride' of the polls until November 6! LOL

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Hopefully, DM...

...we'll right this awesome ship of nations we live in. Sacrifice may be necessary, but now more than - generations - later; we just have to have the guts to commit to our ideals and not sell out to political pandering.

Here's to bringing those terrorists - or combatants - to 'justice'! I'm sooooo glad we've brought them to 'justice', but just wish we didn't have to pay for it. Wow; you think that's like 'ideological welfare'?? Wait,no, they have rights, right, or not? Well, just blame the Right wing for whatever...it gets votes...

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my 2012 tax bill on line today. Noticed the value of my property went down but not enough. Millage rate in PTC up? What gives with that?

You can go to the website and pay your taxes via credit card too, for a small 2 1/2% fee and save the FCBOE the interest on borrowed money. Just saying...........

Are we citizens of PTC paying for haddix's lawyer still?

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ta....da.....Snap Fitness on Crosstown Rd. Open 24-7..opening in October. Go see Wendy, one of the new owners for the next month while she is set up next to TCBY to market the new business. Different owners from the one at Stars Mill. Go in and get a HydroMassage, maybe for free if you are nice to her.

So now you can go indulge and drink yourself silly at Johnny's pizza or Dickey's or El Ranchero and then roll or drive over to work it all off. Then, to finish it off, go get a TCBY fat free yogurt to reward yourself. I bet The UPS store is happy. Nice fit.

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Fast track to the bottom. PTC in the pits

Great. Just what we need a 24/7 Gym. Can you say Dollar Store. Speaking of which,, what do you think will replace Best Buy when they go under? Too big for a Mexican restaurant.

Only thing I really like down there is Kroger and TCBY. Dickey's is ok, but once a month is enough.

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Bicylists and joggers on city streets and highways

Why not allow golf carts on city streets and Hwy 54 and 74? After all,
this is a golf cart community and golf carts are much more visible than
a jogger or a cyclist.

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Bicylists and joggers on city streets and highways

Why not allow golf carts on city streets and Hwy 54 and 74? After all,
this is a golf cart community and golf carts are much more visible than
a jogger or a cyclist.

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