Fayetteville eyes big traffic shift on Hwy. 85

A proposed traffic realignment for Fayetteville north of the Old Courthouse Square promises some fundamental changes.

The Fayetteville City Council on Thursday will begin looking at a way to help mitigate traffic congestion and improve the traffic flow on both sides of North Glynn Street near downtown.

The council will hear a proposal using 1-cent sales tax dollars that would eventually link North Jeff Davis Drive to North Glynn and reconfigure the area of Hood Avenue, Ga. Highway 92 and North Glynn Street. Still another project would extend Lafayette Avenue to Church Street.

The council will consider asking Fayette County to participate in the two SPLOST projects. The projects are the Hwy. 92/Hood Avenue/Jeff Davis Connector and the Lafayette Avenue Signal and Extension, City Engineer Don Easterbrook said in a recent memo.

“These projects are on both our (current) SPLOST lists. We propose a cost sharing arrangement similar to the Jimmie Mayfield Widening project except we would also request the County to pay for right of way acquisition associated with the 92/Hood project because it is a significant cost,” Easterbrook said.

Still essentially at the beginning of the proposal, Easterbrook on Monday said it would be a couple of months before the city would know the preliminary cost associated with the projects.

Current plans west of North Glynn Street call for the moving the traffic signal from Hwy. 92 a short distance south to the intersection with Hood Avenue. West on Hood Avenue just a short distance from North Glynn would be the location of a roundabout that would funnel traffic northeast and northwest onto Hwy. 92.

Motorists at the new traffic signal at Hood Avenue would be able to continue across the intersection on what is proposed to be an extension of Kathi Avenue that would, via another roundabout, link with North Jeff Davis.

Yet another facet of the overall concept would have a traffic signal installed on North Glynn at Lafayette Avenue, and Lafayette extending across the street on a new segment of roadway that intersects with Church Street. And finally, Church Street would be extended north from its current dead-end at Georgia Avenue up to the roundabout at Kathi Avenue.

The plans and an accompanying map can be viewed by downloading the Aug. 19 agenda packet at http://fayetteville.govoffice.com/.

The council Aug. 19 will also set the 2010 millage rate. The rollback rate for 2010 will total 3.24 mills, said Finance Director Lynn Robinson. The rate will include 2.345 mills for the General Fund budget and .895 mills for the Capital Project Funds budget. The total millage for last year was 2.988 mills.

This year’s rate is considered a rollback, or perhaps a roll-up, due to the reassessment of real property, most of which saw a decrease in value over the past year, Robinson said.

Robinson said the millage equivalent of reassessed value shows a deficit of -.252 mills over fiscal year 2009’s mill rate. The digest for calendar year 2010 decreased by a negative 7.68 percent over calendar year 2009 for the reassessment of existing real property, Robinson said. Other changes to taxable digest decreased by -1.31 percent for calendar year 2010 over calendar year 2009, mainly due to motor vehicles. Therefore, the overall digest decreased by -8.99 percent, said Robinson.

Robinson said the General Fund millage rate for 2010 will be 2.345 mills and Capital Projects Fund’s millage rate will be .895 mills for the 2010 digest, adding that the total rollback millage of 3.240 mills only reflects the reassessed value. A mill will be worth $843,430 which equates to total digest taxes of $2,732,713.

Robinson said city staff budgeted $2,769,154 for fiscal year 2011 in anticipation of the decrease of -8.99 percent. The General Fund budget will need to be amended to reflect the deficit of -$36,441, Robinson said.

Also at the meeting, the council is expected to approve a proposal that would do away with the distance restriction in shopping centers and on the Old Courthouse Square that separates churches and businesses serving alcohol.

City staff is proposing an amendment to the Alcohol Ordinance changing the distance requirement between shopping centers, commercial properties located on the Old Courthouse Square and churches. The ordinance currently states that businesses serving alcohol must be at least 100 yards from a church.

“We have noticed a trend lately where temporary church facilities are locating in (shopping) centers thereby restricting the allowed use of those commercial centers by retailers of alcoholic beverages,” city staff said. “The proposed amendment would exempt businesses within (shopping) centers and commercial properties located on the Old Courthouse Square from the 100 yard distance limitation from church facilities.”

As it stands currently, and as it applies to shopping centers and to the south and west sides of Old Courthouse Square, a business already located within 100 yards of a storefront that becomes occupied by a church would be grandfathered, but a business that wants to move in where a church is already operating in an existing store front less than 100 yards away would not be allowed to do so.

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Adding More Congestion

I know this is old news, but the more I think about it the more I'm convinced this is going to be a mess.

They are taking a main route into and out of Fayetteville, hiway 92 north, and merging into a "traffic-circle" with Hood avenue school traffic.

Big trucks traveling 92 plus school bus traffic and parents going in and out of Hood Ave school is going to back things up so badly, it will be a disaster.

Somebody probably did a traffic study whenever school was out because this is not a smart engineering design.

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Won't fix Hwy 85 congestion

Looks like someone is just wasting taxpayer money. Traffic congestion in Fayetteville is not that bad (have you been to Atlanta at 5pm? That's congestion.) Traffic on and off Hwy. 92 at that intersection is the reason traffic gets backed up at that particular spot. Moving the light one intersection down won't fix that. Even at its worst congestion, it only takes you one, maybe two, light cycles to get through. Time it and you'll see that is about 2-3 minutes. After this project is done, that same 2-3 minutes will still be there.

Now a bold experiment would be to keep the roads where they are, take out the traffic light at 92 and 85 and put in a roundabout. That would keep traffic flowing and reduce the wait time to about 1-2 minutes during peek traffic.

To be really bold and improve traffic flow, make 85 southbound olny from 314 to somewhere around the Juctice Center and make Jeff Davis northbound only from there to 314.

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Roundabout is good

A round about is a good idea. They do speed traffic flow and reduce conjestion. Also the risk of serious or severe accidents go down because vehicles tend to be headed in the same direction. Low risk of head on collision or similar. There is one off of lower Fayetteville road south of Newnan.

Planning for a town center is a good idea because of it works we can avoid yet another strip mall city. We should have standards. High standars. We deserve excellence don't we?

Or should we change the name to South R'dale? Now that is strip mall city. we have all een them, and it seems to me that all across the country that is the model of planning failure. Instaad of some contrived psuedo town, built like a hollywood set, , we have a real town. Lets act now to restore and preserve it.

And lets not stop there. What are the options to create a town center in PTC. It is a missing element now.

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Brilliant

THe proposal here is an important first step to establish a vibrant living town center in F'ville. The idea is to establish a small town center that will restore the sourthen charm native to Fayette County. Following the model of Senoia, the idea is to restore the cahracter of the town center. We all want a central Fayetteville with shopping, restaurants and services in character with the relaxed southern lifestyle. This is the modern ideal of small community living. Services and needs provided in walking distance.

For sure property values in the central area will improve as the community become more desirable.

Right now 2 major roads run right through the town center. First step is to route the traffic to by-pass the town center. This is a important first step. Noth and South, East and West, the traffic must re re-routed.

I wonder what this means for the future of the west fayetteville by-pass. Surely this is part of the equation.

Long term, there is a old train depot in Fayetteville. Wouldn't it be cool to one day be able to catch the train to Brooks, Senoia, Sharpsburg and other points distant?

Imagine local lawyers catching a express to down town Atlanta, doing some lobbying for the good of the people and making it home in time for dinner and an evening softball game.

Awesome, but I get too far ahead of myself....

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Ahh - a citizen with a vision. Very interesting. We've noticed a great improvement in Fayetteville, especially the last few years. The improvement of the paving of Glenn - in front of the Fayette County offices - and the restored homes being used/prepared for business has certainly added to the desired charm of a southern city. The newly installed signs are also a welcomed addition. Your assessment of the value and appropriateness of the 'roundabouts' make sense. Thanks for the information. We’re looking forward to the opening of the new restaurant across the street from the Courthouse.

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Ummmm, condition 55 - you may be missing something vital

Creating a vibrant downtown area after you have diverted all the traffic away from downtown will be difficult if not impossible. How do shoppers and your mythical commuting lawyer get to downtown? Once there, where do they park? Anybody thought this one completely through? No, I didn't think so.

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Hey Morgan

All the person wants is a relaxed, gentile, smooth, friendly, nice to me situation! A lot of traffic is not good!
I suppose federal aid could keep the nice, neat litle shops going!

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condition: small town relaxation!

Unfortunately the overhead costs of downtown businesses anymore make the cost prohibitive to start a store to cater to "relaxed southern lifestyle."

I don't know what "charm" means! If it means to you having someone "charm" you with a pleasing personality while you shop, forget it!

Lawyers don't ride trains to Atlanta to lobby and then home for dinner and softball! They just send checks to the politicians.

Brooks, Senoia, Sharpsburg whistle stops. Might be 1-2 on each trip! Diesel passengers trains cost bunches to run what with unions and the government laws!

What is a service "in character" with the southern style of living, please, Ma'am?

I wish you could live like that anyway.

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