F’ville to decide ‘what is a flea market’ and then regulate it

So what exactly is a flea market? The answer to that question and a proposed ordinance to regulate businesses marketed as flea markets will be the subject of a discussion Thursday night at the Fayetteville City Council.

City Director of Planning and Economic Development Brian Wismer in an Aug. 3 letter said the intent of the ordinance is to provide formal guidelines for flea markets and not to prohibit them. Those guidelines would come with high standards of performance, he said.

Wismer said the proposed ordinance sets parameters for zoning, licensing, establishes interior design criteria and prohibits vendor sales in parking lots.

If approved next month, the ordinance would allow flea markets as special exceptions only in the C-3 (Highway Commercial) and M-1 (Light Manufacturing) zoning districts.

The city is sympathetic to the current business climate, Wismer said, adding the prolonged downturn in the economy has made flea markets a more popular business model for generating income. Wismer also noted that the emergence of flea markets can lead to a negative public perception that commercial development in the area is declining.

Wismer said flea markets in the city have created the need for ongoing staff inspections due to code violations and general safety concerns. City staff has also fielded numerous citizen complaints and concerns about existing flea markets, Wismer added.

The council on Aug. 16 will hear the first reading of the proposed ordinance. The second reading and possible approval could come in September.

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More government intrusion

Here we go again. Local government pushing their nose into small business where they don't belong. The government should have a working police and fire department and very little to no regulation of small businesses. We have had enough. Things are tough enough out here without the long arm of big government telling us what is a "flea market" and what isn't. Don't you have anything better to do? Get off our backs!

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Flea Market Hoo-Ha

Would like to see a couple examples of "citizen complaints"--way I see it, you see something you don't like, leave and don't go back. If vendors don't sell stuff, they won't be around long. But leave them alone and allow max individualism in their approach to marketing. Cleanliness is about the only issue to be concerned with. Isn't that what the Health Dept does?

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"Interior design criteria?"

That's the part I don't quite understand. Usually, everyone wants commercial development to look good on the OUTSIDE and blend in with the area. Signs or so forth and parking are regulated and that's generally all the people want controlled. Inside? Hell, what's the issue? If you think it looks like crap or cramped or whatever once you're on the inside, don't go back. Simple, really.

I understand the city probably is trying to keep areas from turning into Chamblee/Doraville/Buford Hwy corridor or south Dekalb, but I would hope they tread very lightly here. A light touch is needed here more than the anvil.

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"Interior design criteria" indeed

I find it amusing that a city that has a business such as Jordan's Sales and Salvage, a business that probably does not conform to one code and is quite visible using Google Earth for the whole world to see, would apply such persnickety and meddlesome regulations on others.

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Rolling Rock & Flea Mkts

Yeah, sounds veddy, veddy PTC'ish, don't it just?

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Rolling - Jordan's Junkyard

It helps to have friends at city hall. I was talking with Mr. Jordan about the value of his property. This was before the collapse so keep this in mind. He told me that someone had offered him $4 million for his lot, lock stock and barrel and he turned it down.

If you care to take the time, you should go out there one Saturday afternoon and talk with those folks. I think you will find it quite an experience and they are really nice people too. They have taken hording to a whole new level.

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Jordan's is a landmark and IS FC

I have noticed that the people who whine about how Jordan's looks and whatever else tend to be the newer residents, the same crowd who move here willingly and then immediately yell to everyone how screwed up everything is. I'm looking right at you David Barlow and others in that regard.

As far as people that have lived in FC since the day they were born, they like Jordan's and you would be messing with what is basically an institution in Fayetteville. If someone were to try to get rid of Jordan's....uhh, you might want to move elsewhere first because the push-back won't be pretty.

When I have had relatives or friends in from out of town and drive past there, it's "hey, can you pull over and let's look at this?" and not "ugh, what an eyesore, how can you tolerate something like this, ooooh"

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I was not criticizing Mr. Jordan, in fact I enjoy the place, it reminds me so much of my dear old dad, who fortunately or unfortunately had many more acres to work with. I have stopped at his establishment several times and talked to some of the folks. Out of curiosity I asked one gentleman who did the inventory there and he told me it was performed by volunteers.

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Rolling - I know

you were simply making a point to our government representatives that was made by Matthew so long ago:

"Why do you notice the splinter in your brother’s eye, but do not perceive the wooden beam in your own eye?"

MT Chapter 7

Glad to know you stopped by, I really enjoy that place, especially if I am looking for something "rare". ;-)

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PTC-O & Rare Stuff

Did you ever visit Hutchinson's Hardware in Senoia when it was open? It was truly a "Jordan's" all indoor! And the folks who worked there knew where everything was but I guarantee YOU'D never find it!

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AHG - Yep

Yep, I sure did and it was always one of those events where you stayed just a little longer than you had planned to, just like long lost Jernegen's in Fairburn. Sure miss those stops.

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Mr Jordan

It is places like Jordan's salvage that make a community unique. They are nice folks and in this day of concrete generic stores and restaurants it is nice to have something that is pure country. Just like the old hardware store was in Senoia before Senoia became Buckhead south.