‘Little people’ can fight back Tuesday

We are in the midst of a prolonged period of stagnated governmental thinking and outright denial at all levels.

Our federal government is heading toward the infamous “fiscal cliff” in January when a series of tax and revenue measures will expire simultaneously. We are also on track to have another trillion dollar deficit for the year.

Here is what we can expect from Congress: nothing.

The U.S. Postal Service requires immediate action to stem the billions of dollars of losses being registered each quarter. They missed a $5.5 billion payment for future retiree health benefits and another $5.6 billion payment will most likely be missed next month.

The Postal Service’s credit line with the U.S. Treasury is almost exhausted. Congress will not even pass the Senate’s watered-down overhaul bill. There are some very clear solutions and the Postmaster General is begging Congress to do something.

Big city mayors across the country condemned Chick-fil-A CEO Dan Cathy for expressing his views at the same time they are reeling from their outrageous failing pension plans and poor decisions.

At the state level, we are going to see Senate Bill 448 by Sen. Don Balfour and our Sen. Ronnie Chance which will protect the large, well-heeled Atlanta-area real estate development tycoons who want to reduce what they guaranteed they would pay on certain loans (those loans that have been transferred from the developer’s original lender to another party).

But as you would expect, the rest of us (also known as “the little people”) will still have to pay full value on our home, student, car and consumer loans.

This is the same legislature that decided not to impose limits on gifts from lobbyists because they believed unlimited giving from special interests was appropriate. The voters screamed “do something” to the legislature with the July 31 ballot question.

The little people fought back on the regional T-SPLOST even though our legislature tried to intimidate us with mandatory financial penalties if we voted “no.” However, the question is why are having to fight the people we elected to represent us?

Locally, our Board of Education has made some outrageously bad decisions. God help the new people coming onto the board.

The BOE has some raw decisions to make and it will be painful and somewhat disruptive, but we do not need to be like Congress and let our system bleed to death. The BOE needs to take the big steps now and they do not need to appoint the usual “yes-men” to the committee addressing the problem.

Our Board of Commissioners majority missed the boat several years back on creating some substantive change to pull us out of our downward spiral.

One thing the Jack Smith and Herb Frady administrations have proven is that it is incredibly easy to waste other people’s money. I have watched people beg the commissioners for a change of course and they are either ignored or rebuffed.

Commissioner Allen McCarty and I have offered remedies only to be voted down 3 to 2 every time. On one occasion, the three-member majority passed a motion to prevent me from even giving my presentation on how to save the budget and the chairman threatened to have me thrown out of the meeting for objecting.

The opposition has called me every name in the book with their personal attacks. Paid lobbyists have been hired to attack me in the local newspapers.

We have to stand and protect our quality of life out of love for this county and the people who live within its boundaries. I ask nothing of you except to go vote for the people who will look out for your best interests.

If you do not want more boondoggles like the West Fayetteville Bypass, deficit spending, disappearing reserve funds, secret votes and no-bid outsourced government contracts, then please go vote on Aug. 21.

We literally have the best county in metropolitan Atlanta and I am begging you to protect it by casting a vote.

Steve Brown

Fayette Commissioner, Post 4

Peachtree City, Ga.

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You are welcome, Nuk

Now Nuk, you complaining about a daily dose of anything is the pot calling the kettle black for sure.

We can find the "Nuk rant" on an hourly basis some days.

I think you are just sore because Hearn and Huddleston are self-destructing and you are losing things to complain about. Well, actually, Hearn self-destructed a long time ago, but you know what I mean.

At the rate you throw out the insults, I have always found it humorous when you get offended by anything someone might post.

To change the subject a bit, I am really proud of Randy Ognio. He had people saying demeaning things about him that were plain untrue. But as I was sitting in the audience this morning at Liberty Baptist, I watched a guy who knew what he was talking about, speaking with conviction, and he won the entire audience over whether they were black or white, Democrat or Republican.

It is very easy to comprehend how Randy has been so successful in his business life and even easier to believe he will stick to his principles if elected.

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Thanks for your daily dose of the same old crap, Steve

We already know which candidates you support...you post multiple times a day to that effect. Unlike some of your sheeple, we don't need a daily re-assurance of the fact that you support Ognio and Barlow. We get it already. Stop wasting space to feed your ego and cluttering the place up with the same BS every day, over and over.

Try maturity and leadership instead of being a juvenile for once.

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Hearn - no show?

Anyone know why Hearn did not show up again for the latest forum at Liberty Baptist this morning?

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I'm unfamiliar with Mr. Barlow's comments to Chairman Presberg, but Nuk's post alludes to Barlow questioning Presberg's religious faith, which is a personal matter for Mr. Presberg. If he chooses to discuss his faith, he may certainly do so. He is also perfectly free not to discuss his faith.

Voters are free to consider his beliefs or not when they vote; some will vote against him on that basis alone.

Personally, I will assess Mr. Presberg's values and his decisions related to performance on the BOE. I do not believe it was necessary to extend the Superintendent's contract early, and am concerned that the Board hasn't insisted on reducing our over capacity years ago. I don't see a tie-in between either of those positions and Mr. Presberg's faith. I don't believe Mr. Barlow should either.

Obviously, there's no certainty in how a candidate will perform once elected; the best we can do is look at their record and assess their character to date. Mr. Barlow is much more of a known entity than his opponent. That doesn't mean everything that's known is without flaws- I'm personally turned off by religious exhortations by elected officials.

I have stated in a Citizen blog that candidate Barlow should assure voters he will decide issues on the basis of Georgia law and county ordinances, policies, and procedures (all of which were enacted through citizens' representatives), rather than faith (which everyone interprets a little differently). There will be some grey areas, where we apply our values... and they are developed, in part, through one's lifelong faith.

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More on Shelia Huddleston's positions

Teamwork - An area that I am most concerned with is the fact that the County Commission does not work together as a cohesive unit. The Commissioners were elected to work together - not squabble and throw barbs at each other. It seems that if the word "team" is used, then there is an immediate attack for working together and the word "Team" becomes a scandalous word. The communication appears virtually nonexistent between the Commissioners. Everyone seems to have their own agenda, and when they do try to work together for the betterment of the County, they are attacked for having different ideas from Commissioners who did not vote the same way. I am not saying that I agree with the decisions that have been made by our current Commission! Please do not misquote me as such. I am simply stating that the Commissioners need to work together and quit trying to force their own personal agendas down the citizen’s throats. Once again, communication is key.

Budget – Let’s take a fresh look in the budget that we have and trim back the expenses that we can reduce without hurting safety. We are overspending and this has to be brought to a halt. I know that with proper budget management, we can get back on track financially so that we, as citizens, are not being taxed to make up for excess spending. Everyone has had to cut back on spending so why shouldn't we, as the County, do the same? While any cutbacks to the critical areas such as Law enforcement or emergency services would be difficult at best, we must look at everything. There are areas that we can cut and we need to look at the budget line by line to control what we are spending. Competitive bidding at all levels is going to be a must. We must make sure that all contracts are bid out. I know that when I go to make a purchase, no matter how large or small, I always compare the prices and make the best purchase for the cost and quality of the product. Why can't this be done for our County? Savings, no matter how small, is still savings. There are many areas, even as small as ordering office supplies, that we can reduce. Every penny counts. We need to be accountable to our Citizens.

Term limits - Term limits on all of our elected officials is a good idea. Term limits would give others an opportunity to serve our County, which would prevent elected officials from becoming too powerful and not held accountable to their constituents. Right now, there are way too many power-hungry people with their own agendas in our government and term limits would help keep fresh new ideas in the government. There are many people in our community who have much to offer. But I can say after this experience, I don't know if I would recommend running. I have tried to run a clean campaign and wanted to be elected because I am the best candidate, not because of smear tactics being used by my opponent David Barlow. Also, NO one contacted me to run for this office. It was my idea to run and I am quite capable of thinking on my own without outside influence. At this point in my life, with my son in college, I have time to give back to my community.

Economic Development – We need to ask what can we do to more aggressively attract business to our County and to also effectively utilize the space that we already have in Fayette County. Instead of building more, I believe that it would behoove us to try and work with property owners to get the spaces rented that are already in existence. By trying to utilize these vacant areas, we could avoid building more buildings that may ultimately end up vacant as well.

If you have additional questions, please feel free to contact me at (770) 331-3360 or by email sheilahuddleston@yahoo.com.

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Commissioner cohesion & working together

They're all individuals and will always have personal opinions and positions. Further, all county depts have chiefs who have the responsibility to administer their Depts in the most efficient and economical way--if I was a Dept head, I'd be pissed off if a commissioner inserted him/herself into my business. And they all have to develop annual/supplemntal budgets to submit to the commissioners for approval. If you'll check the county website and the agendas for commissioners meetings, you'll see routine budget adjustments submitted by various Depts (mostly the Sheriff's Dept) to take care of both routine and unexpected costs.

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Mike & Mouthpiece

Not that I disagree with what you say, but I can't help but wonder why you are serving as her mouthpiece. Matters not too much, I already voted for her.

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AtHomeGym - Mouthpiece?

To a degree I guess I am. Sheila is not a blogger and does not even have a User ID for The Citizen. She's pretty much as I described her in the blogs; Attractive (presentable), professional, hard working, sincere/honest, and as I told her, somewhat politically naive. She had a hard time understanding why Mr. Barlow would attack her with a bunch of lies rather than run on his own merits as he could have done.

Barlow severely pissed me off with his Bible thumping and he pretty much tore it with me when he slammed Elfie with his "God's gonna make you pay" comment. Now I'm not saying that Elfie doesn't need a little abuse (well... maybe a whole lot of abuse) but Barlow was waaaaay over the top. Since I have been around the block a couple of times, and had suffered through my childhood with a 1st class thumper/hypocrite, I decided to offer a hand. I called her, emailed my political and social creds, met with her at length, and we went from there.

Even though it was indeed late in the day, we were able to turn Barlow's "slimeball" campaign tactics back on him. People came out of the woodwork in these blogs in support of this. Even Ognio's wife made a last minute attempt to distance Ognio from Barlow's campaign. I am very hopeful that we will see a Huddleston victory tomorrow - she certainly is the better candidate.

As I said; You and many other bloggers "came out of the woodwork" in support once we got the truth out there. Thank God for honest people, I only hope that we got the message out in time.

Coffee - soon?

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Major Mike: Chauvinists welcome here

You don't like Bible thumpers, I don't like chauvinists. When I am watching a football game I want an announcer who knows the sport and not someone who is out there because she is a young, large chested blonde. Sorry.

Talking about Huddleston's qualifications as "attractive". Huh? How is that relevant? Did you call Jack Smith "handsome" ? So you're a Huddleston supporter. Fine. But it oughtta be something other than looks.

If she is running a local campaign with zero issues, she should get zero votes.

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Citizen Bob - Thank you

You are smarter than the average bear. I passed along your invitation to Sheila Huddleston at about 2130 hours.

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Citizen Bob: You're too classy

You aren't in tune with the program around here in FC where politics are a bloodsport.

The Presberg-Barlow bit I referred to started with Barlow's letter to The Citizen demanding to that Presberg announce his faith or lack thereof. Here that is:

http://www.thecitizen.com/articles/02-21-2012/question-belief-presberg-w...

I have said this before and will say it again: if you ever run for office, I'd very likely vote for you. I may not agree with you all the time and some of your allies make me barf, but your calm,professional manner and demeanor along with thinking before speaking would be a real plus for FC, in any position.

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Barlow - Good for the goose but not for the gander

What an ironic letter from Mr. Barlow demanding a reply to his inquiry of Mr. Presberg. Mr. Barlow remains defiantly silent in response to several inquiries on the Citizen blog and in an email to the question of whether he repaid his creditors after declaring bankruptcy twice. Apparently "spirit-filled Christians" (his words) are exempted from following Jesus' teachings; however, they enjoy great latitude in imposing these instructions on others.

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Citizen Bob: There's an opening on the PTC Ethics Comm.

Maybe more than one.

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Actually, I filled it.

Bob would have been a excellent choice, but I needed to move fast, and he is busy these days.

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Citizen Bob

I have stated in a Citizen blog that candidate Barlow should assure voters he will decide issues on the basis of Georgia law and county ordinances, policies, and procedures (all of which were enacted through citizens' representatives), rather than faith (which everyone interprets a little differently). There will be some grey areas, where we apply our values... and they are developed, in part, through one's lifelong faith.

I have had a conversation with Mr. Barlow on this subject- I believe he understands what you have said, and believes he is bound to do as you so eloquently pointed out. I trust him when he says that he will govern in exactly the way you have stated above. I will be voting Barlow and Ognio on Tuesday.

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Councilman Dienhart / Citizen Bob

While I applaud both of you for your hard work in the community. Mr. Dienhart, you are doing a fine job as a city councilman, and Citizen Bob for your hard work exposing the faults of the Tsplot referendum, I like many others in the community do not believe that Mr. Barlow is the right choice for the County commission.

While I agree with many of Mr. Barlow's platforms, such as the balanced budget, no to the bypass, and an open government, I cannot endorse candidate that has repeatedly failed to demonstrate that he can be trusted to make decisions based on Georgia law.

I attended the Board of Education meeting where Mr. Barlow demonstrated a total lack of respect to one of our officials. He embarrassed me and made me feel that I was attending the Salem witch trials. He followed up this meeting with a spirit filled letter to the editor again demonstrating that he is not fit for public office

Both of you gentlemen seem to understand how an elected official must separate church and state. Mr. Barlow's zealots behavior scares a lot of people like myself.

Citizen Bob, you would've been my choice had you chosen to run for County commission in lieu of Mr. Barlow. I will be voting for Miss Huddleston and Mr. Ognio

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Husband & Father

I couldn't have put it better myself, only to add that Mr. Brown's incessant posts on this site have also swayed me away from Mr. Barlow.

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PTC-O & Brown's comments

His comments would run someone away from free ice cream! Yes, even the little people!

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AHG - He's

blinded by his own self importance and ego.

"little people", indeed!

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Shelia Huddleston, July Disclosure Statement

Shouldn't there be a Campaign Disclosure Statement for the month of July posted for Commission Candidate Sheila Huddleston?

Here we are past the middle of August and there isn't a Disclosure Statement for July.

Also, Ms. Huddleston has added some statements to her campaign website claiming that "rumors have been started by my opponent's supporters and current commissioner Steve Brown " with regards to an association with her campaign and Lee Hearn's campaign.

I beg to differ with Ms. Huddleston on that issue. The fact that Ms. Huddleston's campaign signs have been turning up all over the county ATTACHED to the top of Lee Hearn's campaign signs is what caused people to speculate that their campaigns have been joined.

Ms. Huddleston and Commissioner Lee Hearn made a public display of having their photographs taken with other Fayette County public officials, and those photos appeared as ads in the newspapers with Mayor Dan Langford and Tax Commissioner George Wingo jointly endorsing Ms. Huddleston and Commissioner Hearn.

No, Ms. Huddleston is wrong about her opponent's supporters and Commissioner Brown starting "rumors."

Candidate Huddleston is the person who started those "rumors" by closely associating her campaign with Commissioner Lee Hearn's campaign.

Many, many people in Fayette County feel that Ms. Huddleston's actions have spoken much louder than her words.

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Oh, Honey Badger

My point has been very clear: Huddleston and Hearn are running a joint campaign. They attached their campaign signs and ran joint newspaper ads. You cannot deny this.

If you honestly think that two candidates would link their signs and do joint ads and not share the same perspective on the issues, you are a bit naive.

Now that Sheila Huddleston has been exposed, she has her people running all over the county pulling her green signs off of Commissioner Lee Hearn's signs. I watched as a person ran to the combo sign on the highway, pulled off the green sign from Hearn's and attached it to a metal yard sign frame, sticking it into the ground. (It's a "which way is the wind blowing" deal.)

The truth is no one really knows where Huddleston stands on anything. She has flip-flopped and waffled all over the place.

It was very obvious she had almost no clue as to what she was talking about at the North Fayette Community Association meeting. She says she has new ideas, but we have yet to hear one. She says she has a new vision, but the slate is blank there too.

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Inappropriate

Steve:

I think as a fellow member of the commission you should stick to issues not attacks on candidates. It is very inappropriate and I think your behavior is not what a potential County Chairman should present. I am not a fan of some of these candidates but please show a little more class.

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Beg to differ on Huddleston disclosure

I find it interesting that you blog this disclosure non-sense issue. I just checked the ethics website and the websites of Barlow and Ognio and can't find where they have posted their statements either. All three candidates have the same basic original information listed on the GA ethics site. So why do you attack only Huddleston when your own candidates don't have this information?

As for Huddleston/Hearn well everyone has had that wrong from the get go and yes it was Steve Brown and Jim Richter who started the rumors and misleading gossip. In fact Richter and Brown were behind the attacking insert of Huddleston and her family connection in the citizan. The photo was an endorsement from tax commissioner Wingo and from what I understand has also informed Mr. Richter of is false information and attacks on Huddleston. So the photo only implied that these were those people's choices for commission. You can't prove one single fact that states otherwise.

As for Osiris and you took this swing by saying it was Huddleston due to not properly reading the post and assumed she signed her name, which led to Richter jumping on and Brown then the rest got it wrong from there. Now Richter says Osiris is Susan Stopford, so who is Osiris? I know who it is.

Osiris is Steve Brown that way he gets to talk about himself and all he does and then gets tripped up on his own lies. And gets to blame Osiris.

Back to her family I guess she shut you up on that with the family tree and the post from her sister so think next time before you post

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Honey Badger & Ginga comments

You don't understand? Simple--she's a Barlow supporter! Got it now? And she knows that with Barlow, she gets 2 Bs in a pod--Brown & Barlow. But no matter how you cut it, 2 votes don't get anything done! Why not promote a McCarty, Ognio, Oddo coalition---no retract that--how about each commissioner vote his or her own position, based on background research and a solid feeling of constituent opinion--novel, huh?

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Campaign disclosures online

GA is having problems with that, as Huddleston pointed out and fortunately shut up the crazies who were screaming about it without any facts at all. As usual lately. Or did you forget that Lee Hearn qualifies for the FC Defined Benefit Plan..oh wait, he doesn't! The fact that a current FC commissioner doesn't even know whether he or anyone else qualifies is hysterical and something you crazies would beat the hell out of anyone else over.

When Ballacao also had the same issue with no campaign disclosures online and posted to her website her UPS receipt that her disclosure form was filed well ahead of the deadline, no one said squat about it. With Huddleston though, hypocrisy rules yet again.

Once you crazies learn to walk the talk instead of mirroring anything Steve Brown says, maybe you can move out of the "crazies" and "total hypocrite" category.

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The Crazies are Watching

Little Crazy People are creating "Watch Dog Groups" all over Metro to hold current and future officials accountable for actions and demanding transparency. Appears the Crazies are strong and growing in numbers?

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Reply to ekdrakejr - something unusal

What a shocking expose! Posting on top of an article they are replying to.
What will those sneaky little devils think of next?

Jim Richter

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It only took him three months to figure it out!

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New ideas? New Vision?

After all the posts to this and a few other campaign-related articles, I have yet to hear what the "New Ideas & New Vision" are... am I looking at the wrong threads?

Received my Huddleston mailer this week and read it front & back. It lists "Opposes the WFB" and "No transit in Fayette County" as bullet points, but no "new ideas or visions" associated with either one (or the other bullet points). Does she have some new proposals for dealing with traffic congestion?

I'm feeling more and more as though voters would have to "elect her to find out what she's really about..."

Help me,

Bob

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Nice Pic Bob!!

You look so young!!

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Citizen Bob - Help

Help you?

Help us all, the quality of our selections leave a lot to be desired.

Makes you want to vote for someone that Steve is against, both candidates don't standout a lot but Steve sure does with his constant harping against people he's not running against.

Nuk_1 had some pretty good points when it comes to your candidate. I haven't read anything here that counters his assertions yet.

Care to comment on his performance before the BOE and Mr. Presberg?

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Steve

Why weren't you like this when you were mayor? If you had been you might have gotten re-elected.

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I was actually ...

... but I was battling the Development Authority loans under the table scandal and the TDK Extension fight. Remember the Chamber of Commerce saying that the TDK Extension was all about relieving traffic on Hwy. 54. That seems to be a recurring story as with the West Fayetteville Bypass and the TSPLOST.

Kind of humorous that then-Public Works Director for Fayette County, Lee Hearn, actually chided me in the news paper for stalling the TDK Extension.

The response for the Barlow and Ognio team has been really strong. We are getting a lot of good feedback.

The Hearn and Huddleston team simply cannot overcome their record on the West Fayetteville Bypass, keeping us in the regional and state mass transit plans, no-bid outsourced contracts and the rest.

I forgot all about Cynthia McKinney's wild hair styles. Thanks for the memory.

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The "Stopford Wives" come to Fayette County

Another over-the-top piece of propaganda from the Hearn/Huddleston campaign. This time former candidate Susan Stopford writes in a campaign letter:

"The other candidates represent a radical faction of the Tea Party. Tea Party-fine, this small sect-NOT. Need I say more. They are funded with big bucks from just one man. They have fictional smear ads and lots of them. They will get their folks to the polls...so we need reasonable, intelligent people to combat that movement and cast smart ballots in return."

Everyone needs to beware of those radicals trying to balance the budget and stop special interest construction projects! Those radicals actually think we ought to have an item on the public agenda if it is going to be vote on! Those radicals are against putting your relatives on the Board of Elections!

If you want tens of millions of YOUR dollars wasted on developer projects like the West Fayetteville Bypass and scam deals like the 2009 SPLOST debacle and votes to keep Fayette in the regional and state mass transit plans then vote for INCUMBENT COMMISSIONER LEE HEARN AND HIS RUNNING MATE SHEILA HUDDLESTON.

Personally, I'm voting for the balanced budget, non-special interest radicals.

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Spyglass voting Ognio and Barlow?

Spyglass you will not regret voting for both Randy Ognio and David Barlow.

I fought a long list of people to keep the TDK Extension from happening. There is an incredible back story on that one.

But if you had any doubt of how hard I had to work on that slowing the project down, I copied the letter to the editor from my arch-political enemy Bob Lenox:

The Citizen, October 12, 2005
Lenox: Brown has often impeded road projects

It was pretty obvious in reading Mayor Brown’s letter about TDK Boulevard last week that he had little or no knowledge about the history of this project. I particularly liked the part where he said some previous council should have built the road so he wouldn’t have to worry about it. Here is an historical timeline and the salient facts about this road:

From 1997 through 2000 no new roads were allowed to be built in the Atlanta metro region as a result of a court order in an environmental clean air lawsuit. This meant no widening of Ga. Highway 54 or Ga. Highway 74, and no building of TDK Boulevard.

When the court order was overturned in 2000 the city immediately began work on TDK with the goal of building it before the widening of Hwy. 54 West.

Peachtree City agreed with Coweta County to pay for the design and engineering of the entire road because it was cost-effective to do so, it was going to save a lot of time, and it gave us control over the project.

The original design met then existing FAA regulations and with prompt action by the city the road could have been built to these original plans.

When Steve Brown took office on Jan. 1, 2002, the design and engineering work was virtually complete, all the necessary right-of-way was either in hand or committed to the city at no cost, the city had the necessary financial resources to build the road, and it was estimated that the road could be completed and opened to traffic by July 1, 2003.

For the next two years Steve Brown personally stonewalled this project. You don’t have to take my word for this. Pick up your telephone and call Greg Dunn, Fayette County Commission chairman, or any member of the Fayette County Commission. Call Ken Steele, mayor of Fayetteville, or any member of his council. Call Mitch Seabaugh, our state senator at the time. Call Lynn Westmoreland, then our state representative, now our representative to the U.S. Congress. Call the chairman or any member of the Coweta County Commission.

Ladies and gentlemen, building a road nowadays is an arduous and complicated undertaking that can easily take many years. Getting it done means that many good people must stay the course over many years.

Unfortunately for us it also means that stopping it requires only one bad or incompetent person who fails to do the job when necessary.

It is not often in government that you can clearly find the culprit when things go wrong, but in this case every one of us who has worked for years to make TDK Boulevard a reality knows that Steve Brown stopped it.

Congratulations, Mr. Brown. That was your goal when you took office and you did it. I hope you feel proud.

TDK will get built some day when competent leadership returns to our city. It will cost us all hundreds of thousands of unnecessary dollars and it will, of course, be far too late to take the pressure off of Hwy. 54 West during the widening.

Our industrial park will continue to lose jobs and not be able to replace them. The Braelinn Road business community will continue to suffer. It is amazing the amount of harm one bad person can do.

Bob Lenox
Former 3-term mayor, 1992-2001
Peachtree City, Ga.

[My response to Bob Lenox - Bob, we had many disagreements, but I give you credit for telling the truth while the anonymous bloggers just whine and whine. Steve Brown]

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Ok, Nuk, so Bob Lenox was lying. And so was Greg Dunn or any member of the Fayette County Commission, Ken Steele or any member of his council, Sen. Mitch Seabaugh, US Rep. Lynn Westmoreland and the chairman or any member of the Coweta County Commission.

There is a reason no takes you seriously, Nuk.

And the REAL point was/is, just like the West Fayetteville Bypass, I have nothing against building roads or looking at ways to resolve traffic, but the rhetoric on both projects was a bunch of lies.

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You left out something, Steve

After this letter you just posted was written, you came out and stated that no Council in PTC had done as much to make TDK happen as yours had. Later, you did another 180 and were then against TDK, just like you were before being elected.

How about district voting? How about the Westside Annexation that you ferociously opposed as a candidate and then your development moratorium that got buried in court while "Citizen Steve" was meeting with Weiland folks about Westside Annexation? You flop around a lot, Steve. Easy to be the outsider.....not so easy to govern and to lead is it?

As far as you wanting term limits for FC Commission, what term limits have you agreed to? It doesn't really matter that the motion to adopt term limits failed; you are certainly free to impose term limits on yourself and encourage others to do the same. So, what is your self-imposed term limit since you believe in that so strongly? Of course, you definitely felt everyone in FC were backwoods bigots for opposing district voting so I kind of doubt you really care about term limits either.

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You were for TDK

Until the wind blew, just like district voting.

Funny, now you will not even address traffic issues.

And if district voting passes, you will have to move to stay in office.

Good stuff.

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Don't be a Neanderthal AtHomeGym

What are you using for brains?

Steve Brown said, "But as you would expect, the rest of us (also known as “the little people”) will still have to pay full value on our home, student, car and consumer loans."

Duh! He wasn't talking down. He included himself like "us".

If you want to bark at someone, go find Ronnie Chance!

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Why the Hearn and Huddleston Campaign is bad for us:

Randy Ogino and David Barlow want to stop deficit spending. On the other hand, Lee Hearn has consistently supported deficit spending. To make matters worse, he has actually voted to increase expenditures when revenues were drifting down.

Ognio and Barlow have consistently opposed the wasteful West Fayetteville Bypass. On the other hand, Hearn is one of the most ardent supporters on building the West Fayetteville Bypass. It was later found out that Hearn's relatives own a large number of acres of undeveloped land near the West Fayetteville Bypass. (Mean old Steve Brown's family does not own any land near government projects.)

Ognio and Barlow support a resolution to ask that Fayette County be removed from all regional and state mass transit plans. On the other hand, Lee Hearn along with Commissioners Frady and Horgan voted it down.

Ognio and Barlow oppose sneaky, non-public votes. Other the other hand, Hearn voted in favor of items that NEVER appeared on a public meeting agenda - keeping the public in the dark.

Ognio and Barlow want to honor the county Fire Districts, but Hearn, for the last four years, had the county paying the administrative, equipment and other Fire Service costs from the general fund. This is in direct contradiction to the fire district agreements made with the Peachtree City and Fayetteville. In an act of desperation, Hearn made the comment that everything was funded from Fire Fund - which was true, after it was transferred from the general fund.

Ognio and Barlow supported Steve Brown's tax solution to de-fund the West Fayetteville Bypass and use the funds for county debt and tax relief, but Hearn voted it down.

Ognio and Barlow support having all appointed citizen post openings advertised so the public can apply. Hearn appointed one of his relatives to the Board of Elections to oversee his re-election bid. He lied to the public at a commission meeting, say the relative was "a friend of his from church."

Ognio and Barlow want the commissioners to balance the budget. Hearn voted it down and approved a sizable amount of our tax dollars to pave a dead end gravel road with only two houses on it (Snead Road). We later found out that two large tracts were owned by local real estate development interests. Again, this expense occurs at a time when we are deficit spending.

Hearn and Huddleston keep trying to demonize mean old Steve Brown. Sheila Huddleston is campaigning with Commissioner Lee Hearn to show the world that Hearn was right and that giving him four more years in office is in the best interest of the citizens of Fayette County.

There are many good reasons NOT to vote for the team of Hearn and Huddleston.

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Heard your BS everyday on this

It's beyond tiresome. If you have anything new to add, great, otherwise, it's the usual preaching to the choir.

The fact is that none of Huddleston, Ognio or Barlow have ever cast a vote as county commissioner and what each or every one of them supports now or doesn't is subject to change. Anyone can spout platitudes like a) I am totally opposed to TDK b) I am totally opposed to Westside Annexation and C) I am totally in favor of district voting BEFORE they get elected and then they have to govern and suddenly are an insider instead of the crusading outsider.

Attendance at meetings and getting up repeating yourself in meeting after meeting proves all of nothing. Attendance at meetings meant nothing to Greg Clifton getting elected Mayor of Fayetteville, either.

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Nuk & "Attendance at meetings"

Damn Nuk, some of that sounds so good I feel like writing it myself---no, wait! I already did!

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Gene Drake the paid lobbyist

You are getting smarter. There are about 25 who do it.

Wonder why?

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Remember Gene Drake, paid lobbyist helping the Hearn campaign

You, Hearn and Huddleston keep trying to demonize mean old Steve Brown. Sheila Huddleston is campaigning with Commissioner Lee Hearn to show the world that Hearn was right and that giving him four more years in office is in the best interest of the citizens of Fayette County.

Do you think they will fare any better than TSPLOST?

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Steve Brown the House Husband

I don't know what to say other than you are so dishonest and weird. I know you want the folks to think I am the devil for supporting the TSPLOST and then associate Lee Hearn with the devil but please tell us all how I am helping the Hearn campaign. Am I sitting on the corner of Redwine and Peachtree Parkway like some unnamed goofy county commissioner? Am I making phone calls? Am I sending out emails? Please tell me what I am doing other than voting for Hearn.

Truth is you can't say. Your just a nasty, dishonest disappointment of a public servant who can't broker in the truth. Get a life, get your mind off me for awhile and try to be a productive county commissioner.

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Steve Brown the House Husband

In your case and that of the other names you use, I suspect it is from an unwarranted, hyper-egotistical superiority complex. For the others, I assume they just want to be like their cult leader.

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Something Unusual

I notice that Steve Brown, johenry and McGerkin all post on top of the comment they are replying to instead of below it. I'm not saying they're all the same person but it's a pretty unusual, similar trait.

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It is an unusual trait among normal people, Gene

One has to try extra hard to break the logical pattern in replying to someone, but it is worth it if one is an egomaniac and wants to place more emphasis on himself that even his own answer. To be sure Brown has multiple identities. johenry isn't Brown but he is certainly a Brown supporter (1 of about 10 in the whole county). Jury still out on McGerkin. Way back in the bad old days, one of the newspaper editors analyzed writing styles and outed several people with multiple identities, including Brown.

It has always amazed me that Haddix didn't figure out how to get a second screen name. It might be a skill level issue. Too bad, he should have at least one supporter.

Hey, anyone want to sign up for his study committee? Wouldn't it be fun to sit with him in a conference room suggesting ideas that he will immediately reject? That's how I want to spend 3 or 4 hours of my life.

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lifer from 65

So you like being called one of the "little people" do you? Personally, I don't like being put into ANY category by someone who doesn't know me.

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Osiris or Huddleston

American Patriot, you are so right. To much on the defensive with quite a bit of detailed information. I did, at one time, believe the blogger might be someone named Greg or Peter, but, nah, it's Huddleston.

The comments are really becoming superfluous and ought not warrant feedback at this point. Me thinks it is to late!

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Osiris - Is it Susan Stopford or Sheila Huddleston - or both

I now realize it is Stopford who is writing the blogs. She and Sheila initiated the email exchanges with me and I copied Stopford on every email between Sheila and me.

As spokesman for Huddleston, you are doing her more harm than good and Sheila would do well by asking you to stop helping her!

Just read the tone of the blogs posted in response to your blogs.

Jim Richter

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Hey Osiris, How's About

Coughing up a solution to help a 94 year old lady on the W. Bypass whose well has gone dry?

Go into your telephone booth, miraculously emerge as Sheila Huddleston, and offer up a solution that will meet with the approval of Lee Hearn, Herb Frady, and Robert Horgan.

Come on, Osiris, what's your solution?

Remember now, you've got to keep Lee, Herb, Robert and Jack K. happy!

Oh, but I forgot, Ms. Huddleston doesn't make "Public Comments" at the Commission Meetings!

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Wells go dry

Come to Moultrie with me and I willmshiw you plenty.

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AtHome, Who doesn't Have A Vote?

If you are saying that all the folks who speak at commission meetings don't have a vote, you are wrong.

I've spoken at commission meetings and I voted day before yesterday.

There are a whole lot of folks who speak during the "Public Comment" portion of our commission meetings. We, also, write letters to our commissioners and the editors of our newspapers. We make phone calls and write letters to our State Representatives and Senators.

If we feel their actions or lack thereof are warranted, we vote them out of office.

Former Commission Chairman Jack Smith tried to convince Fayette voters that his was "only one voice" on the Atlanta Regional Commission and that was one of the reasons he voted in favor of "mass transit" in Fayette County.

With flimsy excuses like that, Jack got voted out of office.

Even though Commissioner Lee Hearn couldn't produce a true traffic study, he tried to convince the voters that the W. Bypass was being built to relieve traffic in Fayetteville. He tried to convince voters that his appointment to the Elections Board was someone he knows from church. In actuality, that someone just happened to be a relative of Mr. Hearn. That same relative also owns close to a hundred acres that almost touches the W. Bypass. He did own property that touches the W. Bypass but sold a portion of it to the Oglethorpe Electric Co.

Mr. Hearn can be voted out of office.

Four Fayette County Public Officials have been voted out of office during the last two years. If you are saying that the people of Fayette County don't have a vote, that is wrong!

If you are saying that a sweet 94 year old lady whose well has gone dry due to W. Bypass construction doesn't have a vote, just watch and see.

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AtHomeGym

I have seen plenty of meetings where large attendance and citizens speaking up helped change a vote.

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That is sad

And tells me that our elected officials lack a backbone.

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Not all of them will change

Jack Smith, Eric Maxwell, Herb Frady, Pothead Horgan and Lee Hearn didn't let the crowds change their minds. They kept on building that stupid bypass.

In the end it looks like the crowd will make the change for them.

I'm thinking Lee Hearn gets beat badly and takes Sheila Osiris Huddleston down too. Smith, Maxwell and Horgan took a beating and Hearn is next.

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Commissioner Brown& Changed Votes

That's a sad story. You're telling me that commissioners had individually not done background study and analysis and reached a logical conclusion on a particular issue and allowed themselves to be influenced--at the last minute--by the loudest voice in the audience. That's not leadership.

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Which changed votes and which meetings?

The most crowded PTC council meeting I have ever seen was the Wal-Mart/Home Depot/RIM Development meeting where it was literally standing room only and spilled out of chambers and even outside and downstairs at the library. The vote was 3-2 to approve as most expected.

The next most packed meeting I remember is FC Commission when Phase 2 of WFB was being voted on. As expected, it also passed.

Maybe Steve can point-out which meetings that were heavily attended and comments from the peanut gallery changed someone's unsure and very pliable mind. Like you said, that's not leadership at all.

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Of course, Gym. That's exactly what he means

Public outrage -aka. populist nonsense will change Brown's vote any time, any day. It is about him. Not you or me or God forbid the actual issues.

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Ginga & Vote

I think you knew what I meant--go to the commission meetings and comment all you want but when the commissioners vote on an issue--YOU DON'T GET A VOTE! There--got it now? And I still bet that lady (who does need help) has a shallow well!

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Ginga & comments at Commission meetings

When will all of you realize that these comments do nothing except enhance the speaker's image? THEY DON'T HAVE A VOTE! Individuals can attend and yip and yap all they want to get attention and ink but it means little--because THEY DON'T HAVE A VOTE! Is that just too hard to understand?

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AHG: Yes, it is too hard for them to understand

Boosting one's ego by repeating the same lines over and over at every meeting is apparently enough to really WOW some in FC. The 100 or so who go to every meeting and listen to the same people say the exact same thing every meeting passes as entertainment I guess.

Ironically, newly-elected Fayetteville Mayor Greg Clifton never attended a single Fayetteville council meeting before getting elected. Since he was running against Ken Steele who most of the local crazies consider to be the anti-Christ, their standards didn't apply to Clifton whatsoever. Hypocrisy at its finest.

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Husband and Fat, Where's Barlow? Ognio?

They've been pleading the case to stop the W. Bypass for the last 2-3 years!

They've been trying to help folks like the 94 year old lady in the letter below!

WHERE HAS SHEILA HUDDLESTON BEEN ALL THAT TIME? WE HAVEN'T HEARD ONE SINGLE WORD FROM MS. HUDDLESTON UNTIL NOW WHEN SHE DECIDES SHE WANTS TO BE A COMMISSIONER.

RANDY OGNIO AND DAVID BARLOW HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR FOLKS LIKE THE 94 YEAR OLD LADY IN THE LETTER BELOW!

SINCE MS. HUDDLESTON SAYS IN HER WEBSITE THAT SHE HASN'T SPOKEN AT ANY COMMISSION MEETINGS BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T BELIEVE IN COMPLAINING, SHE ONLY BELIEVES IN GIVING SOLUTIONS, WHY HASN'T SHE BEEN GIVING OUR COMMISSIONERS SOME SOLUTIONS TO HELP THE 94 YEAR OLD LADY IN THE LETTER BELOW?

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What is it with water & the WFB?

Aren't you the person who asked (then commissioner) Eric Maxwell, "when the road comes between my house and water well, how am I going to get my water?". To which he replied, "Well lady, I guess you'll just have to be real careful crossing the road with your bucket!"

To paraphrase Dr. Phil, "What are these commissioners thinking?"

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Citizen Bob, Yep

I'm Eric Maxwell's "bucket" lady.

Guess I'll just have to grab my bucket and start hauling water to my W. Bypass neighbor's home.

This really makes me mad because it is just one more example of how the citizen's pleas have fallen on deaf ears with three of our current commissioners.

This really makes me mad because folks like Hutch, Birdman, and others have belittled the folks whose lives and property have been destroyed due to the W. Bypass.

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Can you smell the worry?

Husband, both David Barlow and Randy Ognio ran ads in the local newspapers. Really now, what are Hearn and Huddleston doing besides joining forces, campaigning together and lifting Hearn's platform of building the West Fayetteville Bypass, deficit spending and keeping Fayette in the regional and state mass transit plans?

For the record, I act as my spokesperson.

Also for the record, Barlow and Ognio appear in the minutes of years worth of commission meetings. In case you did not read those minutes, they hold the opposite position of the Hearn and Huddlestion Coalition by opposing the West Fayetteville Bypass, opposing deficit spending and opposing keeping Fayette in the mass transit plans.

At least you got the Ognio part right. But if you do not like Commissioner Lee Hearn then you should not chose his running mate Sheila Huddleston either.

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Where's Barlow? Ognio?

We have not heard a peep from Mr. Barlow or Ognio in quite a while. Have they been advised by the political consultants not to be seen or heard? In my opinion they are certainly hurting their chances by allowing Mr. Brown to act as their personal spokesperson. By staying silent, they are telling me that they are not their own men, but are only following the political agenda of a sitting councilman hopping that their election will enable him to move up the political ladder.

I am still convinced that Mr. Ognio and Ms. Huddleston are the best choice of the remaining candidates. Mr. Hearn needs to go based on his political history. Mr. Barlows lack of fiscal responsibility, public displays of inappropriate dialogue, his need to advised by the PTC mayor, and his lack of education are all negatives in my book.

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Me thinks your're

Susan Stopford at this point. Husband and Fat, at least Commissioner Brown uses his real name, why don't you? Isn't Stopford's husband tied up with the UN? OH, that's what we need, more UN thinking.

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Laughing

This coming from a Leprechaun? LMAO

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Agenda 21! Agenda 21! Huddleston tied to the UN somehow!

Wait..it was Stopford's husband who isn't on the ballot? Neither is his wife at this point? How desperate are you people to get poor David Barlow elected?

That ought to distract the crazies for a while. You people are kooks. Isn't the John Birch Society still around in some form that you can join and spew your nonsense and idiotic conspiracy theories? Why not go over to Alex Jones' World News Daily websites and strap on the tin foil hats already.

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It's closer than you think, the wording is hidden and repackaged

Sounds like you need to read up on Agenda 21. Please search, research Victoria Bauer, speaking all across the nation on Agenda 21. She is from South GA, Jacksonville, FL area. Please, please study this. There are 4 areas already being consumed with this program right here in GA. You will learn all the "catch" words of this power and control heading your way. . . . . . regional planning, sustainable development, land use plans, are 3 biggy buzz words, (end result is controlling land use and property ownership) And of course you do know a 68 yr old man is in jail for 30 days in Oregon for collecting rainwater on his own property, been in jail for 1 week now.

Yes the crazy nuts are at it again; crazy about their rights, crazy about their freedoms, crazy about family/county/country!!

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Rainwater dude

He's in jail for actively and physically diverting water on his property to the point of building reservoirs and boat docks, not "collecting rainwater." Would it be OK if a creek runs through his property to damn it up and stop the flow of it downstream too?

Collecting rainwater is perfectly OK in Oregon. He's not collecting rainwater....he's building his own ponds from water that is coming from a river, not rainwater. He knows it and opened up his gates before when told to and this time decided to make himself some kind of martyr and block the flow once again. He's not a hero; he's a chump who knew he was blatantly violating the law and did it anyway. He also doesn't give a damn about anyone else's access to the water.

As far as goofy Agenda 21 goes, I don't see how in the hell the idea is ever going to take hold in FC, hysterics aside. "Land Use Plan" isn't a "buzzword" either since most cities and counties already have them and FC has used their quite well in the past. It's what is in the plan itself that matters, not that it's called a "Land Use Plan."

As far as sustainable development, LOL. Is anywhere in GA embracing that concept or Agenda 21 for that matter? You think Atlanta gives a damn about Agenda 21? How about Coweta? Last I checked, regional transportation failed miserably in every area of the 12 except for 3 rural regions that definitely believed they could all benefit from it. That's their choice and in their situation, it made some sense, unlike the entire Metro Atlanta region where it didn't.

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rights and liberty being destroyed

It is his property, if he decides to adjust the dirt, rocks, cattails, water, flow so be it. . . . most would chose to do what is right though when others are concerned. I'ved only read/heard the term rain water being collected in regards to the Oregon case.

http://www.libertynewsonline.com/article_301_30341.php

Agenda 21 = THE HORRORS OF AGENDA 21 AND ICLEI IN FLORIDA = ICLEI = aka The International Council for Local Environmental Initiatives

This is one state, there are 49 others all being targeted!

Thats my story and I'm sticking to it. . . . . . outta here

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Ognio & Barlow have stated their positions

No need to re-hash them to satisfy people who haven't kept up with them.

Lack of education? I suppose you mean the lack of a college degree (like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs). Just saw Ms. H's mailer today, which states Barlow has some 120 hours. I could cite a number of letters after my name, but I couldn't come close to earning the GA Unlimited Electrician's license that Ognio's held for years.

And I assume you know that Barlow's 18 year old bankruptcy resulted from him reporting his employer to the Feds for a felony, right? The employer's partner sued multiple times in retribution, was awarded nothing by the judge, and was himself sentenced to over four years in federal prison and ordered to return over $800k in ill gotten gains.

Of course, doing the right thing and taking a stand also cost Barlow his job, but I respect that kind of decision.

Voters will decide next Tuesday...

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People like Bill Gates and

People like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are one in a million entrepreneurs. How many others failed because they lacked a formal education? We are discussing Mr. Barlow.

The lawsuits related to his story about reporting on his employer just doesn't add up to me. If this was the case, why did the Feds not provide legal support. There are also avenues available to obtain free legal representation. There is an old saying in the legal field. A lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client.

Citizen Bob, do you honestly believe that public harrasement of the school board chairman at a school board meeting and in an open letter to the editor of this paper was warranted? If a man of Mr. Barlows life experience needs to be advised by the PTC Mayor that he is running for public office and not Preacher, than something is lacking here.

Attending meetings does not make someone an expert. I could watch two hundred medical procedures, and this doesn't make me a doctor. We need people in the community like Mr. Barlow to ask questions and keep our elected officials in check. However, I do not think that Mr. Barlow has the requirements that I want for my representation.

Citizen Bob, why don't you run for council position? You have attended all of the meetings, you are educated, state your positions intelligently, you my friend would be a better choice than what is being presented to us.

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H&F - Barlow

I can't imagine why the federal government would get involved in a civil lawsuit. I don't think that the law would even allow it in Mr. Barlow’s case. Let's hone down to what's important. He knew what was at stake when he blew the whistle, and he went ahead anyway. His worst fears were realized, and now he is being attacked, on a personal level, for doing the right thing. We need more David Barlows in public service- he is someone who has demonstrated that he will do what’s right, regardless of the personal consequences.

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The feds would get involved

There are protections in place for whistleblowers who are found credible. Thats why there is something fishy about this story.

There would be quite a few lawyers that would have taken this case pro bono if it was as cut and dry as explained.

I don't doubt he did the right thing. I dont question his ethics. I question whether he can do the job, represent us in a dignified manner, and not be the yes man to Mr. Brown.

His questioning of the school board official and yelling across a crowded room to a gentleman who was pro T-Splost that he would have to answer to god is just not the type of person I could endorce.

Mr. Dienhart, would you do those things? I highly doubt it as you are rational.

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I'm not sure...

but, I believe that federal protection for whistleblowers extends only to those who are blowing the whistle against the federal government. This was not the case for Mr. Barlow. He will not be Commissioner Browns "yes man"- the same ethics you gave him credit for will prevent this.

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I believe Mr. Barlow stated

I believe Mr. Barlow stated that the funds were given by the federal government. This I believe would fall under federal protection. Maybe some of the lawyers online would like to clarify.

Mr. Dienhart, you did not respond to the behavioral issues I questioned. I doubt you find this behavior acceptable.

I would also be interested to know if you contacted Ms. Huddleston to ask her about her positions

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Yes,

I did talk to Ms. Huddleston, in person, on two occasions. Once after the GOP Womans picnic and once at one of the candidate forums. She seemed like a sharp, moral and smart person.

I endorsed David because his stance on most issues is crystal clear, and aligns with mine. I'm not going to attack Ms. Huddleston for an alliance with Mr. Hearn- I'm not close to Mr. Hearn, or Ms. Huddleston. I don't know what her intentions were as far as the sign issue. I will say that allowing her signs to be affixed to Mr. Hearns was at best a massive tactical error, and at worst evidence of collusion. It just doesn't seem like a well thought out move to me. It certainly caused much unnecessary controversy. I hope we can get back to the issues on this- who is the better fit for Fayette County. An end to the personal attacks (none of which have come from the candidates), and full disclosure of how each candidate would act once elected. We, the citizens of Fayette County, deserve an issues based election.

That said, yes, I endorsed Barlow. I agree with his stance on the issues. I would urge Ms. Huddleston to dig in deep, and offer up well thought out opinions for her future political endeavors. If she is against all of these things that Lee Hearn is for, call a press conference and state that the intermingling of the two campaigns was a mistake. Then tell us where she stands. Right now, it appears that Lee Hearn is running her campaign. Ms. Huddleston needs to take the reins and control her own destiny.

I fear that this happened because Lee Hearn is running scared. He may be trying to use Ms. Huddleston to buoy his campaign, Instead, it drug her down.

Again, I urge people to vote for David Barlow- because he is a better fit for the job. No disrespect intended to Ms. Huddleston, but we know what we have with David- an end to the good old boy network in Fayette County. Strong, Moral Leadership. An end to runaway spending. An end to the WFB. He has stood up, and put his name on the line in opposition to the TSPLOST. Mr. Barlow is already a leader in this community. He deserves our votes.

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I respect your presentation

I respect your presentation of yor points. However you again glossed over the behavioral issues. As a sitting councilman how would you react to a zealot citizen questioning your faith at a council meeting and also demanding this information in an open letter to the editor?

Do you think it is appropriate for a person to tell you you will have to answer to God for supporting a stupid road project?

I have met and talked with you, and believe you are doing a fine job as a councilman. I don't believe you think this kind of behavior is acceptable in a public setting.

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Thanks

for your comment on my job performance. I feel uncomfortable commenting on the situation you brought up, because I didn't witness it. It is also based on a comment to Ed Drake, I believe. Mr. Drake is well known for provoking people on this board. Just Monday, he called Commissioner Brown a "butt monkey". I don't know to what purpose this behavior serves- but it casts anything Mr. Drake says in doubt.

For what it is worth, I have been known to raise my voice, as well. I don't believe that this is a recurrent problem for Mr. Barlow. I have only heard of the one event. He has been well spoken, on the multiple occasions I have seen him speak. I have never witnessed him yelling at anyone.

As far as how I would respond- I'd laugh. For the record, I'm Catholic. If anything I do offends God- I'll pay for it eventually.

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A Catholic Marine----

A Catholic Marine----what's not to like ???

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You hit the nail on the head.

You hit the nail on the head. You would laugh at the question. Probably have the security get a little closer. Most normal people would. Behavior like this is not how I want my representative to behave. Our elected leaders are due respect.

I dont care what religion anyone practices or does not practice. If they are a good person, they are a good person. Religion is a personal matter and should not be forced on anyone.

Got to get some work done

Have a nice day

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No George

Drake didn't call Brown a butt monkey, he called Josh Bloom a butt monkey, after Josh told him Steve single handedly stopped the TSPLOST.. I guess you don't believe anything happens then unless YOU see it then? Funny how you Brownies can twist anything around to suit you. Just for the record here, are you calling Drake a liar?

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George & Gene

I was one of the folks Gene badmouthed on this forum. He came to a Bloggers Coffee last Saturday and, while not exactly having his hat in his hand, made it clear that there was nothing personal intended and future postings would be different. I believe him. And George, if you've never met Gene, you might benefit from a meeting. As a Navy vet, he accounted for himself well with Army vets The Wedge and myself.

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George

George – GYM is helping me be a more responsible blogger so I have tempered my response but I do have a few thoughts/questions:

1. On the post that I wrote accusing Josh Bloom of being a Steve Brown butt monkey, I signed my name, Gene Drake, and yet you were able to come to the conclusion that my name is Ed Drake. Do you actually read the posts or just spout the talking points you’ve been given?

2. Here’s the Urban Dictionary definition of Butt Monkey. “One who clings to the butt of another as a monkey clings to a tree; a butt-kisser”. Now go back and read Josh’s post and let me know where I went wrong. You might even ask yourself how it is you might be defined.

3. I was talking to a neighbor of mine, a local Tea Party coordinator, at the Rotary Club Candidate Meet and Greet when David Barlow told me I would have to answer to God for supporting the T-SPLOST. I would be happy to have her corroborate the story.

4. My account of the exchange has been posted and reposted many times since that day. If David didn’t do as I said, don’t you think he would have long ago been on here claiming that I wasn’t being truthful?

5. Just so we’re clear, it doesn’t bother me that David thinks I will have to answer to God, it bothers me that he will be in a position where issues have to be examined and debated and he seems to think God is on his side of what are typically pretty secular issues. I truly can’t imagine him being very effective with that approach.

6. I find it interesting that you would question the veracity of my story just because you weren’t there to witness it and because you feel I am too "provocative". I’ve never seen your DD214 and there is nothing particular in your bearing that suggests you are a former Marine but I’ve never questioned your service. For that matter, I’ve attended Holy Trinity for the last 12 years but have never seen you there but I don’t question your religion. Careful that you don’t insinuate accusations. I’m happy to back up my claims. Are you?

Gene Drake