Brown: Budget may be issue for Hwy. 74/I-85 fix

One of the projects that stands to benefit the most from a potential regional sales tax is improvements to the interchange of Ga. Highway 74 and Interstate 85, just outside the Fayette-Fulton County line.

Fayette County Commissioner Steve Brown, who has been working with state transportation officials on the matter, has said there are some very promising solutions for the interchange.

However, at a July 20 meeting on the regional tax he again expressed doubts that the work can be accomplished for the $22 million that is earmarked for it in the regional project selection process.

“Todd Long gave me a lot of incredible answers that would solve all those problems,” Brown said, referring to the state’s director of transportation planning.

But the fear is what might happen if the project’s cost estimate, once it is fully engineered, surpasses the currently-programmed $22 million mark, Brown said.

Fayetteville Mayor Ken Steele, who is on the 21-member Atlanta Regional Transportation Roundtable, replied that the matter is in the hands of traffic engineers for now, and time will tell how the project is handled.

The meeting, which was convened at City Hall, was designed to brief local elected officials on the roundtable’s progress and what work remains to be done in advance of the July 2012 referendum on the sales tax.

Peachtree City resident Bob Ross asked about a resolution adopted by the Atlanta Regional Commission to create a regional transit authority. He was told that the legislature is studying the issue with a special committee, but no final decisions have been made.

There are no rail, bus or other transit projects for Fayette County that are being contemplated for funding with the regional sales tax. All of Fayette’s projects are for road, bridge and cart path improvements.

Later in the meeting, Steele noted that a previous concept that would bring a commuter rail line from Atlanta through Peachtree City and Senoia has been scrapped.

Steele noted that everything handled by the roundtable is available online for public viewing at www.atlantaregionalroundtable.com.

Ross observed that so far Fayette County is not in line to have all local road projects in return for its projected contribution to the 10-year tax.

Steele noted that once the I-85/Hwy. 74 interchange is included, along with other projects including enhancement of I-85 and Ga. Highway 138, there are other projects outside of Fayette County that will benefit Fayette commuters.

And although buses aren’t a good fit for Fayette County, they may be an answer for other communities, Steele said.

“If another community thinks a bus line is what they need, then I support a bus line for them,” Steele said. “It’s not for us. But if it’s the answer to their congestion needs, we’d be hypocritical to vote against what their desires were.”

At its executive committee meeting last week, the roundtable focused almost exclusively on its proposed transit projects. A good portion of the debate centered on whether it was appropriate to plan for a 30 percent contingency for major capital projects such as rail lines and the like.

Under the legislation, the roundtable can earmark sales tax funds not just for capital construction costs but also for operation costs.

The roundtable will also be grappling with how long to provide funding for the operation of transit projects, officials have said.

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Syntax. LOL. I'm sure you can answer . Come on fellas, inquiring minds want to know. I've listed the questions twice. Thanks for taking the time to answer.

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I was actually thinking you would answer those posed to you, but I'll not look to see who asked first.

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Sorry, the only comment I saw from you was the brilliant 'bovine excrement' statement. Please repeat your question, I'll gladly answer.

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Item # 9 on this thread.

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The numbers change as comments are added - but you've done your best, thanks.

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It is fairly certain that these projects,

"Steele noted that once the I-85/Hwy. 74 interchange is included, along with other projects including enhancement of I-85 and Ga. Highway 138, there are other projects outside of Fayette County that will benefit Fayette commuters.",
will be completed whether we contribute to a regional sales tax or not.

And this means, "“If another community thinks a bus line is what they need, then I support a bus line for them,” Steele said. “It’s not for us. But if it’s the answer to their congestion needs, we’d be hypocritical to vote against what their desires were.”",
we will see buses in Fayette county whether we like it or not.

This seems to be the whole reason Steele wants a say in this process.

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Right wing social engineering is just as bad as left wing social engineering. Butt out Mr. Steele. We don't need buses running to or from or through Fayette County. We don't want that. I can't imagine the citizens of Fayetteville want that. What is this obsession with buses and trains and all that?

And you want me to vote for the transportation tax because people in Clayton County need or want buses? Not a chance in the worls. BTW, is that what this "How does Atlanta stack up" series in the AJC all about? Puff pieces for the transportation tax? Pitiful.

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It's an obsession with some in FC

"What is this obsession with buses and trains and all that?"

I don't get it. How many times does it have to be said that no politician in FC right now is in favor of buses or public transportation and that there is no plan to include FC in any mass transit? MARTA isn't coming to FC, hysterical people. The legislation even forbids MARTA from receiving one cent in money from this legislation if it even passes. A regional transit group wouldn't include FC.

The main issue seems to be some in FC who are against public transportation ANYWHERE on the planet. It's not good enough for these types that there won't be any in FC, they don't want a MARTA, GRTA, a rail or anything else available in other county or state either. This same mentality seems to "know" how other counties should run their own counties too, yet oblivious to the mismanagement and bumbling that is prevalent in FC and has been for quite a while. Look at the BOE and the humongous shortfalls they have and the total stupidity it took to get into a fiscal disaster that will affect education in FC for years. A lot of this mentality seems to be concentrated within PTC also.

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Took me awhile to figure it out....bad_ptc gave me the hint.."dead guy".

How's the weather in LA?

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And although buses aren’t a good fit for Fayette County, they may be an answer for other communities, Steele said.

“If another community thinks a bus line is what they need, then I support a bus line for them,” Steele said. “It’s not for us. But if it’s the answer to their congestion needs, we’d be hypocritical to vote against what their desires were.”

Common sense in action.

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Common sense would mean those counties not wanting/needing buses not being forced to pay for them. I guess we were raised with differing values.

If I wanted an Olympic sized pool on my property, would you be OK paying for it? How about my new Lexus, Ipod, tattoo?

Your Robin Hood mindset has gone astray.

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Mike King - my answer; and yours?

We built our own pool in California. I would expect you and my neighbors to do the same. However, I haven't been on a bus since the price went up to .25. However, I realize that many people need bus transportation, and I don't mind my small contribution to 'community transportation' helping provide that service. After all, they are not riding for free, so my small contribution to a community service does not 'foot' the entire bill. AND, if I footed the entire bill for your Lexus, it would sit in my garage, not yours. Right?

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Will our opting out of paying our small portion prevent the cities/ communities from getting the services they need? Can you insure that residents of Fayette County will never use a bus in another county community? Do we have the votes to stop our contribution? We are a part of a larger community - we are not the entire community. Part of the funds from other county communities help to pave 'our ' roads. Right? It's not only common sense, it's called cooperation with our neighbors.

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. . .and anyone else who may have the answer:

Will our opting out of paying our small portion prevent the cities/ communities from getting the services they need? Can you insure that residents of Fayette County will never use a bus in another county community? Do we have the votes to stop our contribution?

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Can you guarantee me that some Clayton County rapper-thug won't take the bus and then rob me while visiting Fayette County?

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MajorMike characterized it best "pure Bovine Excrement". What part of something belonging to someone else do you believe you own?

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That is without a doubt the biggest bunch of bovine excrement that you have come up with in a while. Well, this week anyway.

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To the three linguists

Can you get past the bovine excrement and answer any of my questions?

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Davids mom - syntax

A question mark at the end of a statement does not make it a question?

I really didn't think that you understood syntax very well. Then again, maybe you do.