NAACP: ‘Keep incumbents out of our voting district’

Group makes case for special election this November 2013

Attorneys representing the Fayette County branch of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People contend there is plenty of time for county elections officials to prepare for a special election this November for a newly-created majority-minority fifth district.

In addition, the group wants to bar current office holders from competing in the new district.

Such an election would allow voters only in that district to select a new member to both the Fayette County Commission and the Fayette County Board of Education.

There’s a catch, however: a federal judge presiding over the lawsuit has yet to choose a final district map for the county.

U.S. District Judge Timothy C. Batten on May 21 ordered a change from at-large to district voting for elections to both the Fayette County Commission and the Fayette County Board of Education. The change means that voters will no longer be able to cast ballots on all five seats on both governing bodies; rather they will be limited to voting only for the post that is linked to the specific geographic district in which they live.

The NAACP successfully argued that the current at-large voting format is tantamount to racial discrimination, particularly since no black candidate has ever been elected to a post on either governing body.

The theory is that with a specially-drawn district that packs a majority of minority voters, a black candidate stands a better chance of being elected to office as either a county commissioner or a member of the board of education.

In court filings Monday, the NAACP contends there is no reason to delay a special election this November in the fifth district.

The district map proposed by the NAACP creates a fifth district with no incumbent candidates for the county commission or board of education, as it puts county commission members Allen McCarty and David Barlow in the same 1st district. Likewise, the NAACP map puts BoE members Leonard Presberg and Barry Marchman in the same 1st district.

In a July 29 court filing, the NAACP argues that if a new district map allowed incumbents to be part of the majority-minority fifth district, those incumbents would have “a material advantage” on election day.

“Placing an incumbent in the remedial district will essentially reward a member of the Board of Commissioners and Board of Education who was elected under a method of election that has been found to violate federal law, thereby providing plaintiffs a less than complete remedy,” NAACP attorneys wrote in the July 29 brief.

While Judge Batten holds the power to determine which map shall be enacted, and he may also order a special election in November, the NAACP’s brief is silent on how the court should determine which member should be removed from the board of education and the county commission to account for how the NAACP’s map drew two members of each board into the first district.

Because the county plans to hold a special election this November for a proposed infrastructure sales tax, there is an opportunity for the court to order a special election for District 5 to be held at the same time, NAACP attorneys argue.

The district map proposed by the county commission would put two existing board of education members in the southern district 3: board Chair Marion Key and board member Mary Kay Bacallao.

The map proposed by the NAACP splits 11 existing precincts, while the map pitched by the county split 12 current precincts.

While the county has asked for time to allow the Georgia Legislature to address the redistricting process, the NAACP’s legal brief notes that such efforts have already failed twice.

Attorneys for the county have asked for an evidentiary hearing prior to the court deciding which district map to enact. The NAACP contends that while the court could conduct such a hearing, it is not required to and moreover there is plenty of evidence already on the record from both sides in the case.

As to how long it would take county elections officials to prepare for a newly-drawn fifth district, the NAACP’s demographer and redistrict expert says he was able to accomplish nearly all of the work on a computer in less than one day. Demographer William S. Cooper said in a declaration to the court that he would be glad to share his work with the county.

The NAACP has complained about the county commission’s willingness to fight the lawsuit at the cost of county taxpayers, with the county’s legal costs soaring past the $300,000 mark; the NAACP has not publicly announced how much it has spent on the lawsuit, an amount the county may ultimately also have to pay.

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Sorry but Gerrymandering is racist

This entire lawsuit is obscene. What if I was in Clayton County and they drew a district based on White voters to insure a White Candidate. It would stretch on a small area from the panhandle to lake spivey.

DM Love you but the this is reverse discrimination. If there is district voting it should be based on locations..Fayetteville, Tyrone, North County, @ Peachtree City and South County.

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Gerrymandering rmoc,

is in the tradition of social democracy, it serves special interests.

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DM Love you but the this is reverse discrimination. If there is district voting it should be based on locations..Fayetteville, Tyrone, North County, @ Peachtree City and South County.

Love you too! Gerrymandering has been a tool for racism in certain states in this country since the Voting Rights Act was passed. It's a tool that works. If we had some leadership in this county with vision, your idea should be considered. Our neighborhoods are more integrated than one thinks, and there are many citizens in Fayette County who would not vote against a person because of their color. With the arrival of newcomers from Pinewood and the fine arts college, these antiquated ideas regarding 'race' will continue to dissolve. Gosh, if Herman Cain moved his family here - he would be elected. There are other minorities living in the county who are 'conservative'. But they see that there are those who still feel its important to denigrate an entire race of people. Living peacefully among neighbors and friends is easier than allowing some to take shots at you politically because of your race rather than your position on issues.

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So where's our voice in all of this??

These guys have no shame. The NAACP wants to single-handedly, under the auspices of some flunky Federal Judge, carve up the county so a black person *has* to get elected. Am I missing something here but isn't that called racism? Oh, excuse me ...silly me, I forgot, if blacks do it it's not racism. Essentially the NAACP wants to re-segregate the county ...create a ghetto ...oops, I mean "Voting District"...of a black majority for voting purposes. And the National Association for the ADVANCEMENT of Colored People and this puppet backwater Judge thinks this is just peachy.

So isn't that great for all you blacks living, or considering living in, Fayette County. If you want to ensure ...positively-guarantee-sure-as-the-sun-comes-up ...you have a black representing your district on the Board of Commissioners and a black on the Board of Education then you can only live in this certain area of Fayette County ...as determined by some anonymous Federal judge ...and demanded by the group that is supposedly for the "advancement of colored people". Oh, and speaking of education ...the schools? You know, the schools that are inevitably gonna fall into this newly created ghetto? What do you think their student and faculty population is going to be? I guess the next big thing is gonna be forced busing because, well, we have to foster diversity and all that ...right? Actually the FCBOE will call it by a much more benign and PC name: redistricting. Dontcha know when that hits the fan it's gonna be a fun night at the meetin', eh? No, I think the NAACP likes the separate but equal line of thought. Actually the NAACP really only cares about the NAACP and if you cannot see that from this latest rant well then crawl back under that rock you're living under. As a black person, is this what you want here in Fayetteville??? Seems this little exercise is going to move things backward rather than forward.

Right. Ghettos and segregated schools in Fayetteville. That sounds like advancement to me. And lest you misunderstand the term "ghetto", it simply means a geographical area inhabited primarily by any one particular race, religion or gender of people. Someone had opined to one of my other postings that Fayetteville was known/has a reputation as one of the last bastions of white supremacy ...she never backed this up with facts. But how ironic.

What I want to know, as a 20+ year resident and taxpayer of this county, is where are our guys? When is it our turn to stand up and say our piece and fight for our rights? Where are the county attorney's? Why is it the only ones who seem to have Judge Battan's ear are the NAACP, it's lawyers and activists? Why is it I haven't heard any protestations on the part of the county? The Judge basically blew the county off using the faulty logic fed to him by the NAACP. In my mind the Judge has an agenda because you can't elect someone (black, white, hispanic, asian, irish) if they never run for office ...a tiny tidbit that seems to have escaped Judge Batten's realm of understanding ...or maybe not. You know, there's a damn good chance this will be just another load of entitlement horse droppings and we're just gonna have to suck it up ...but are we really done fighting?

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food for thought

http://bnpsalford.wordpress.com/the-truth-about-slavery/

It seems that other countries are looking at how silly this is also and questioning why they are putting up with the illogical BS

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The issue is not slavery today. The issue is learning how to live together in peace today in spite of the past. Fayette County citizens have exemplified this 'living together' by their actions and how they treat one another in their daily contact. Sadly, it appears that for decades, the county for some reason has not included a 'minority' on two governing boards selected by an election procedure. This fact does not represent the truth of a southern locality that has moved on in providing an integrated school system, integrated neighborhoods, integrated shopping areas and public facilities. It is sad that the leadership in this county (black and white) could not have anticipated that this county would be looked at - especially in a state that was under question for implementing the Voting RIghts Act. The Federal Court and our local leadership are dealing with this issue. Our citizens will react with reasonableness. Who is asking for reparations? Any of your neighbors here in Fayette County? Most of your neighbors here elected to be here; participate in civic activities; etc. This is a local issue that can be solved without causing division amongst neighbors. (Unless this neighborliness is not for real - and is some sort of pretense that some wish could dissolve and Fayette County could return to the 'old ways' of dealing with persons of a different color.) The assumption of some posting here and possibly the NAACP that all blacks in a certain 'district' will vote for a 'black' candidate is interesting. The need for representation is a need for all citizens. The pros and cons of the anticipated change for district voting has been noted. The 'talking heads' may continue to find reasons for controversy - but the voters will decide after the decision has been made regarding the federal ruling. If elected leaders use district voting as a power tool (as has been done in recent Congresses) rather than truly meeting the needs of the county - then the voters need to replace them. IMO

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Mr. Mahoney-It's about opportunities

I dislike district voting for this reason. A person elected will feel obligated to represent the people that elected him/her. What that means is that there will now be competition among board members. When it's time to make decisions like dividing funds or closing schools which district will suffer? Could it maybe be the one that it's member forced his way on to the board? One vote out of five does not give one much power. And you also make a good point in that this could easily create a "black section" of Fayette county. Of course when these things happen the NAACP will be back to create more "opportunities". But opportunities for whom? The NAACP? I wonder if the NAACP really wants to advance the lives of "colored people" or just create "opportunities" to line their pockets by collecting more dues. At least we will no longer be known as a "bastion of white supremacy". That makes it all worthwhile huh? (sarcasm off)

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Appalling

I simply cannot believe that the NAACP thought carving out incumbents was a good and fair thing to do.

This case will make an very interesting case study when everything is over at the federal level. Some of the events have left many of us shaking our heads.

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Charlie Rangel: Tea Party is group of ‘White Crackers’

This is the voice of the democrat party. Note that the racist, hate-filled, vile people on the left are not calling for his resignation.

“It is the same group we faced in the South with those white crackers and the dogs and the police. They didn’t care about how they looked," Rangel said.

Charlie Rangel: Tea Party Is ‘Same Group’ Of ‘White Crackers’ Who Fought Civil Rights

What a freaking dirt-bag.

"Tainting the tea party movement with the charge of racism is proving to be an effective strategy for Democrats. There is no evidence that tea party adherents are any more racist than other Republicans, and indeed many other Americans. But getting them to spend their time purging their ranks and having candidates distance themselves should help Democrats win in November. Having one’s opponent rebut charges of racism is far better than discussing joblessness.” — Mary Frances Berry, former Chairwoman, US Commission on Civil Rights

Yup, when the chips are down and you have no defense for the absolute abysmal economy caused by this idiot "president", call your opponents racists. They certainly don't want to debate the facts or discuss new ideas. This is the modern democrap party.

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Rangel should be forced to resign

charlie rangel is nothing but a corrupt, vile, hate-filled racist (same as most of the democrat party) and should be forced to resign.

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Hey Rangel, Those 'White Crackers' Are Your Bosses

Rangel, demonstrating once more what a racist tool he is, is making himself the very definition of "Uncle Tom" by reinforcing the Left's false historical narrative about civil rights.

People like Rangel are the Democrats' overseers, making sure their fellow blacks stay on the plantation by any means necessary, including bald-faced lies and historical revisionism.

Hey Rangel, Those 'White Crackers' Are Your Bosses

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Hey, Joe remember it is okay to feed the fish, it is okay to

feed the ducks, it is okay to feed animals at the zoo but heed the DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS sign.

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What happened troll????

Lose your nerve? Why don't you repost that low-class comment about MYTIMITE? You know, it started with "Cute retort by a.....". It was out there long enough for some of us to see it.

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Thank you Joe

Maybe you weren't born during this historical time in the US. The Democrats that were listed in the article were called Dixie-Crats - and were staunch segregationists. It was a Democratic president who signed the Voting Rights Act - and sent the African American citizens to the Democratic Party in droves - and the segregationists (the South) to the Republican Party. There are conservative Republicans today who are black - but because of the hateful rhetoric such as you share, will not support the Republican Party platform. (The same with the majority of women, Hispanics, Asians and young people) Sad. The following is from the article you shared:

Prominent segregationists who were Democrats at the time: Dale Alford, United States Representative of Arkansas; Taddy Aycock, Lieutenant Governor of Louisiana; Ross Barnett, Governor of Mississippi; Hale Boggs, United States Representative of Louisiana; Albert Boutwell, Lieutenant Governor of Alabama; Bryant Bowles, white supremacist organizer in Florida; Parey Branton, State Representative of Louisiana; Overton Brooks, United States Representative of Louisiana; C. Farris Bryant, Governor of Florida; Garland T. Byrd, Lieutenant Governor of Georgia; Harry F. Byrd, Governor and U.S. senator of Virginia; Harry F. Byrd, Jr., U.S. senator of Virginia; Robert Byrd, United States Senator, West Virginia; Francis Cherry, Governor of Arkansas; Kent Courtney, activist from Louisiana; Jimmie Davis, Governor of Louisiana; Vail M. Delony, Speaker of the Louisiana House of Representatives from Lake Providence; James Eastland, United States Senator, Mississippi; Allen J. Ellender, United States Senator, Louisiana; Clyde Fant, Mayor of Shreveport, Louisiana; Orval Faubus, Governor of Arkansas; William Fulbright, United States Senator, Arkansas; John Sidney Garrett, State Representative, Louisiana; Peter Zack Geer, Lieutenant Governor of Georgia; James H. Gray, Sr., Georgia Democratic state chairman; Marvin Griffin, Governor of Georgia; Jack P.F. Gremillion, Attorney General of Louisiana; F. Edward Hebert, U.S. representative from Louisiana; Jesse Helms, United States Senator, North Carolina; Lister Hill, United States Senator, Alabama; Orville L. Hubbard, Mayor, Dearborn, Michigan; Wellborn Jack, State Representative of Louisiana; Shelby M. Jackson, Superintendent of Public Education, Louisiana; James D. Johnson, Arkansas Supreme Court justice; Paul B. Johnson, Jr., Governor of Mississippi; J. Bennett Johnston, Jr., United States Senator, Louisiana; B. Everett Jordan, United States Senator, North Carolina; Robert F. Kennon, Governor of Louisiana; James J. Kilpatrick, Columnist, Virginia; Russell B. Long, United States Senator, Louisiana; Speedy O. Long, United States Representative, Louisiana; Lester Maddox, Governor of Georgia; John McClellan, United States Senator, Arkansas; John McKeithen, Governor of Louisiana; Harold Montgomery, Louisiana state senator; Danny Roy Moore, Louisiana state senator; deLesseps Story Morrison, Mayor of New Orleans; W. Lee O'Daniel, Governor of Texas; John H. Overton, U.S. senator from Louisiana; Otto Passman, U.S. representative from northeastern Louisiana; John Malcolm Patterson, Governor of Alabama; Dave L. Pearce, Louisiana Agricultural Commissioner; Leander Perez, Louisiana judge; William M. Rainach, Louisiana state senator; John Rarick, United States Representative of Louisiana; A. Willis Robertson, U.S. senator from Virginia; Richard B. Russell, U.S. senator from Georgia; Victor Schiro, Mayor of New Orleans; George W. Shannon, Louisiana journalist; Gerald L. K. Smith, evangelist from Louisiana and Arkansas; Howard W. Smith, United States Representative from Virginia; John Sparkman, U.S. senator from Alabama; John C. Stennis, United States Senator from Mississippi; Ford E. Stinson, State Representative of Louisiana; J. B. Stoner, Georgia political candidate; Herman Talmadge, U.S. senator from Georgia; A. Roswell Thompson, Louisiana political candidate; Strom Thurmond, Governor and U.S. senator from South Carolina; Ned Touchstone, Louisiana journalist and printer; Joe D. Waggonner, United States Representative of Louisiana; George C. Wallace; Albert W. Watson; John Bell Williams, Governor of Mississippi; Edwin E. Willis, United States Representative of Louisiana; Fielding L. Wright, Governor of Mississippi.

I'm sure some of these names are familiar to you.

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Now, now Joe----

You know Mr. Rangel must be a student of Black History and only referring to the historical use of the term cracker which originated as crackaaa referring to the sound of the whip used during slavery. The only racists are those white persons who speak out in anyway against a black person. Shame on you.

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Crackers originally were driving livestock

From Georgia to Florida....

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NAACP segregationists

Note that the only people calling for segregation are the 'colored people' of the NAACP. They are nothing but a bunch of hypocritical racists.
They don't want unity in our community, they want their own little fiefdom. If you think they will stop here, think again. They will demand that more money be taken from the other districts and be given to their racist, segregationist district.

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The Charleston Voice - Really?!?!

This blogspot is nothing more than a hateful and angry individual blogger who does not post his/her name and with good reason.

At first glance, this site appears to be a "conspiracy theory" site but actually it's one step above Stormfront!

It subtly plays on centuries old fears that has sparked hatred and prejudice.

It glorifies Senator Joe MacCarthy, tries to tie the Communists to the NAACP, sparks anti Zionism and attempts to convince people of a 200 year old Rothchild international banking conspiracy to fuel anti-semitism.

I'm all for free speech but this is wrong.
Sorry

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Since you brought up hate groups

With all the discussions on the NAACP lately, I started to compare them to a good group, (Southern Poverty Law Center) to check out the differences. The SPLC also monitors hate groups. While there are 53 hate groups being monitored by them in the state of ga, it so happens that one is located in Fayette County and another close by in Merriwether county.

While recouperating from surgery this week,, I spent some time reading this groups website. Sickening that we live amoung people with this type of thought process. Sure hope Barlow doesn't endorse these nuts by inviting them to perform the invocation.

Wish I knew how to get rid of this hatred.

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Husband and Father

Please continue to research. The hatred is not as pronounced as it was in earlier times - but it is still there in some small minds. The two hate groups close to our communities here in Fayette County are under surveillance by the local and federal government . I hope that no one in our respective communities are aligning themselves with these groups.

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The SPLC itself is a "hate group"

I urge you to dig a little deeper into what Morris Dees(a real slimeball of a person) and his Southern Law Poverty Center is all about. Pretty much any group that is against illegal immigration makes the list and this is one of the most leftist and sometimes kooky organizations out there. They'll say anything for a buck while trying to scare people into thinking there are neo-nazi's running wild.

When the KKK and other goofs started declining, the SPLC wasted no time in trying to find other "targets" to supposedly "monitor" so send us your money NOW! They are in the "hate business" every much as the clowns out there that they supposedly inform about.

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Neo-Nazis - skinheads
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They'll say anything for a buck while trying to scare people into thinking there are neo-nazi's running wild.

This group was known as 'skin heads' in California - and were well known for their hatred of anyone of color; Aisan, African American; Hispanic; as well as Jews and Middle Easterners. They proudly displayed the swastika in their 'headquarters'. 10-12 years ago they were a group to be feared.

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I will study some more

Good pain meds make me sleepy though.

This groups website and blog is scary.

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Interesting reading. The Communist Party latched on to the obvious weakness in our country - race relations. . . and yes, they lent their expertise to the movement of black people in America for respectful recognition. Blacks and other minorities did not fall for the communist line - and have served this country well in all of its battles since and before the War for Independence. Please, somebody tell me that Mr. Romney did not wear that hat at the NAACP convention!!! Please tell me he did not greet the audience with those words! Bewilderment? I guess so!

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Who is Mary Frances Berry?

Just for information:

http://www.maryfrancesberry.com I think there are many Democrats and Republicans who are anxious to sit down and discuss/debate facts or new ideas. The country is waiting for this type of leadership - and Obama and McCain have begun

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NAACP: Most Bigoted Organization In America

This headline pretty much nails the truth. NAACP has no interest in better government, full county representation or equality. They're only interest is to elect a person with the same skin tone as their membership.
I've lived in this county for well over 30 years and I'd like to hear some specific examples where blacks have not received equal treatment as whites.
NAACP seems to think "black issues" need to be addressed. I disagree.
County resident issues need to be addressed.
Exactly how do "black issues" differ from county resident issues?
Aren't we suppose to be a "color blind" community?
I thought we were. We have racially mixed neighborhoods throughout Fayette County and our commissioners have treated everyone equally ever since I've been here.
I can recall with the Europe district was majority Republican, but we had a full democrat commission because we didn't have district voting. No lawsuits, no official complaints, we just worked to find good quality candidates that would appeal to all voters and we got them elected.
NAACP wants to play the race card so those officials can justify the big salary and expense accounts they enjoy. They more they yell racism, the more they secure their phony-baloney jobs.
Remember this quotation from a very intelligent man:
"There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don't want the patient to get well." —Booker T. Washington -1856 - 1915

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It's Not About Race

The NAACP is not about race relations or improvement. It is about money and power. The same can be said for Jesse Jackson's group, Al Sharpton's Group, the KKK, The Skinheads, and even some segments of the Tea Party.

Race is the vehicle. Period. And the more sensationalized these groups can make race, the more money fills their coffers and the more strong-armed power they wield. None of these groups have done anything in the last 30 years to advance causes of the poor, the homeless, education or jobs. But they all have "Entertainment" awards shows and such.

Left to their own means, with no interference, most moral and reasonable people find common ground, common causes and ways to appreciate one another. Differences are viewed as differences and most decent people can agree to disagree - peacefully.

But right now there are 2 parallel stories going on with racial undertones and how they are being covered tell the entire tale:

** Riley Cooper, a 26 year old white professional football player currently being crucified in the media because he used the "N" word and was caught on videotape doing so. Even though he has apologized, has stepped away from the team, and is seeking counseling - the media continues to call for his termination by his team.

** Terrence Jones, a 21 year old black professional basketball player was arrested early Wednesday in Portland after he was seen by police stomping on the leg of a homeless man and yelling "wake up". He was charged with harassment, a Class B misdemeanor, and released on his own recognizance. There is no media frenzy calling for the young black man's release. You literally have to search to find the details of this story.

So someone explain this to me, please!
** Two young professional athletes
** One uses a vulgar racial slur in public and is chastised by the media
** The other physically assaults a homeless man, but received little media coverage.

THIS IS NOT RIGHT, AND IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME NOW (Paula Deen, Michael Richards, Etc, Etc). It is a money and power machine driving this kind of stupidity.

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Left to their own means, with no interference, most moral and reasonable people find common ground, common causes and ways to appreciate one another. Differences are viewed as differences and most decent people can agree to disagree - peacefully

History shows us that this was a basis of some of the discussions between Booker T. Washington and W.E.B. Dubuis. History shows us until the patience of 'no interference' had worn thin, and protests started, nothing was done. Reasonable men and women need to step up and try to solve problems before those less reasonable lose patience and DEMAND solutions to problems. This applies not only to racial problems in our country, but also tax reform, health care, respect for all mankind (as intimated in our Constitution), tolerance of those who believe in religion and those who do not, etc., etc., etc. The Jews, the Palestinians, the Germans, the British, the Russians, many citizens in the past Soviet Union, African Americans, Egyptians, Irish Protestants, Irish Catholics, some white Americans have/will protest when patience wears thin and progress for respectful recognition is withheld.

Regarding 'media coverage'. I agree, the media is a business that markets its product - and publishes what sells. Each one of us has to look within to see what we 'buy' and/or consider worth reading. Many ignore The CItizen - and read other local newspapers . Many enjoy reading The Fayette Woman. Both publications 'sell' to their market.

I am interested in the reaction in this discussion to the local and state NAACP. It is much the same as when the NAACP protested Jim Crow; segregation; etc., etc., etc. I too wonder why 'reasonable people' did not sit down and look at perceived problems and search for solutions or clear up misperceptions. Maybe they did - and nothing happened, I don't know.

But look, the focus is now on the NAACP; Jesse Jackson; and Al Sharpton - not the problem that is the issue - the lack of a person of color on two governing boards in Fayette County for decades. The Federal Court ruled in the NAACP's favor. There needs to be - as suggested in earlier discussions - a candidate identified and made available for the public to see and vote upon.

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Quite the role model there...

The sergeant said Jones yelled, “Wake up,” then raised his leg and stomped down on one of the man’s legs. The men were sleeping in the doorway

NBA's Terrance Jones pleads not guilty of being a crap-weasel

The victim, 46-year-old Daniel John Kellerher was a white man....Somebody please let Al Sharpton know. Note how there's no mention of race when it's a colored guy beating on a helpless middle aged white guy. What a dirtbag.

Just another example of the double standards that exist because the bedwetters on the left are apologists for crime comitted by colored people.

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I have enjoyed for the past 10 years the community you describe.

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"There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don't want the patient to get well.

There has been a lot of healing since these words were written. Some of those who deny a 'race' problem don't want the healing to continue. Those who continue to paint with a broad brush either race and use terms to denigrate 'black' or 'white' people are obstructing the progress that has been made and that you and I note in Fayette County.
All is not well when we still have problems in our country between the races - not all cities are like Fayetteville. Our country is known for it's 'race' problem - just like South Africa was known for apartheid. To pretend that this is a 'lie' is foolish. More people need to acknowledge the progress made. Unfortunately in some parts of the country, the only groups that receive a reaction are groups like the NAACP in recognizing the need for change. It is apparent that there are those who greatly fear one person of color in a government seat in Fayette County. Please tell us how this 'one'' vote by a person of color will change the progress made in this county over the past 30 years.
Will this person have a different need for good schools, clean neighborhoods, freedom of speech, access to opportunities, etc., etc., etc.? For those who were involved in the Civil Rights movement - no one can paint 'white' people with a broad brush - for the movement would not have been successful without the support of 'white' people. Unfortunately, from some of the comments in this discussion, there are those who still fear progress (integration) - and have a great need to denigrate an entire race in their ranting. Rants noted.

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NAACP: Most Bigoted Organization In America

You are hereby awarded the trophy for the most obvious statement made this year!!!!

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"Unfortunately without special help, those of us of African heritage are not collectively able to achieve equality in outcome". There is the problem. If Blacks want equality, they need to EARN IT THROUGH ACTIONS, not have it handed to them by government/law because of PERCEIVED past wrongs against them. Most of us alive today neither participated in (whites) nor were the subject of (blacks) those alleged wrongs.

EARN equality by living values
EARN equality by hard work and vocation
EARN equality by not forcing it down the throats of others
EARN equality by stopping your HYPOCRISY

It's OK for blacks to use the "N" word, but if a white uses it they are chastised and disgraced by the black community and liberal media. But it's OK for blacks to use derogatory terms for whites. Let's see a full-on boycott by blacks of every hip-hop recording that uses the "N" word. Let's see the same uproar that Paula Deen has faced.

The bottom line is that blacks will continue to fall short of equality in most things by their own hand. Quit screaming injustice and expecting more hand-outs. EARN something.

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Quit screaming injustice and expecting more hand-outs. EARN something.

The President of the United States; Martin Luther King; Thurgood Marshall; Barbara Jordon; Gordon Parks; Ophra Winfrey; Travis Smiley; Alan West; Colin Powell; Mae Jamisen; and thousands of thousands more who serve in our communities as teachers, doctors, dentists, business owners, electricians, plumbers, religious leaders, homemakers, waitresses, mechanics, - productive citizens of our country who happen to be black. The attempt to continue to separate by denigrating a segment of society is noted. We are all Americans.

An interesting read: The Warmth of Other Suns by Isabel Wilkerson Awarded the Pulizer Prize

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All fine examples of hard working, lucid, intelligent people. There are many, many more names to add to that list. And they ALL EARNED their place on that list. The problem is the disparity between these fine people and the large number of bottom-feeders screaming "ME! ME! ME!" and expecting to be GIVEN equality and more to the point, material gain. The likes of the NAACP, Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton that want to change the game for themselves and others without EARNING it. Do not be deceived. No one is this country - white, black, yellow, brown, or red - are equal. Those that rise to a level of respect work hard and bite their tongues every day. Those who do not have the intestinal fortitude to EARN their way whine, cry, complain, scream injustice and unfairness, and only want to be GIVEN what others have EARNED. And it has been working to some extent for a number of years, but I believe that people of all races are getting sick of it.

I believe that these people will not be happy until everything they don't have is taken from those that do, and all white people (and successful people of all races for that matter) are broken down and in shackles; placed in slavery as restitution/reparations.

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I believe that these people will not be happy until everything they don't have is taken from those that do, and all white people (and successful people of all races for that matter) are broken down and in shackles; placed in slavery as restitution/reparations.

Note the after thought after the. 'All white people' statement . Sad that they don't see their own bias and assumption of superiority . Most knowledgeable people are beyond this trend of thought in my opinion.

Contrary to some posters - there are 'white' bottom feeders in our country.

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Note the after thought after the. 'All white people' statement . Sad that they don't see their own bias and assumption of superiority .

There was no afterthought. I am talking about the NAACP, the black community, the media and the double-standard that exists. Please do not let me be misunderstood. There are bottom-feeders in every category, whether you are studying race, culture, class, gender, profession, lifestyle or whatever. And the bottom-feeders are the ones that prevent real progress of any kind. In this particular case I believe the bottom-feeders in the black community are (and have been) slowing advancement. And it is a damned shame. The reason people hate stereotypes (all people) is that there is always an air of truth to them. As human beings we tend to generalize as a protection mechanism. Unfortunate as it is, as long as the bottom-feeders are screaming injustice at every turn, the great works of those who earned respect will be devalued, and those great people will be viewed through a distorted lens as being "one of them". Right or wrong. And that applies to lots of areas other than race. Lawyers and politicians come most immediately to mind...

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Thank you for the clarification of your words and intent. (This is why 'face to face' discussion is very valuable to this subject, IMO) I and many in my community have learned through experience to look beyond the bottom feeders and 'look up' to those Americans who have high ideals and manifest these ideals with their actions. I found that when I look up - the view is NOT DISTORTED by the bottom feeders. The Americans that I look up to come in all sizes, colors, genders, and ideologies. The bottom feeders in our country - criminals, who take advantage of our system of providing assistance to those who truly can benefit from assistance - are the MINORITY in population and are represented by all genders, races, ideologies, etc. In my community, through history, the bottom feeders did not represent hope, success, peace, harmony. . . and my community fought hard not to classify all 'white' people or southerners as bottom feeders. From some of the comments (words) - this is not the case of some who participate in THIS discussion and their painting with a broad brush all African Americans. However, from the actions of the citizens that I have met in Fayette County - there are many citizens here of all races, religions, gender, and ideology who can never be considered 'bottom feeders'. Again, thanks for the words which clarified my understanding of your words. I agree with

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However - MLK screamed 'injusticr' - and it was his non-violent approach which corrected SOME injustice in this country. The 'bottom feeders' do not have control of the message - and injustices do still exist, need to be recognized and corrected - so that peace and harmony can prevail. Ignoring the injustices towards some in order to maintain the peace and harmony for some - is never successful.

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DM, your list could go on indefinitely and I would add yourself - there's plenty of proof that skin color has nothing to do with one's ability to achieve and excel.

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Outcome was never meant to be equal

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Majority - Minority
One of the greatest oxymoronic phrases of all time

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YOU say those of us of african heritage are not collectively able to achieve equality in outcome. But oh yes we are- We presently have a black two term President. Although lest we forget , when he first ran for office he said he was half black and half black. Our beloved NAACP has hoodwink everyone he is only black. That said, Stop whinning and work together as it is done in the North , West and East.

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There is NOTHING equal about the new map - it has racially favored drawn lines which, in itself, is not unbiased, fair, or should be constitutional. Race should not play a factor in drawing lines. For the NAACP to advance this shows their own bigotry and selfish intent. Let's stop the race-bating - race-hating on all sides. We can live together but each side must choose to do so without shoving selfish gain and intent at each other.

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There is nothing 'equal' about the practice of gerrymandering. It's about maintaining 'power' - regardless if it's political party; race; income; etc.

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Is equality in the opportunity or in the outcome?

OneAccord - of course *everyone* has equal opportunity to run and vote, but that's not the issue. The outcome must be equal. Unfortunately without special help, those of us of African heritage are not collectively able to achieve equality in outcome, whether in politics, employment, education, parenting, or abiding by rules and laws. Until we all determine a remedy we can hardly remove the training wheels. That's why the NAACP plays such a crucial role - they ensure the training wheels stay on until one day we finally achieve parity in outcome.

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Elect by race

I still say that instead of voting by some gerrymandered districts, we just vote by race. The whites elect one, the blacks elect one, the asians elect one, the hispanics elect one and we can have one open seat for the rest of the races.

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Don't ALL incumbents have a "material advantage" on election day? And isn't that exactly what the District 5 NAACP candidates will have, thanks to the creation of a racially gerrymandered district?

Once again, NAACP is showing that it does not seek guaranteed opportunities, but rather guaranteed outcomes. How shameful. At this point, they should ask the judge to skip the farcical election all together and appoint "NAACP approved" members directly to the Commission and School Board.

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"OUR voting district"?? "Keep...OUT"?? Not sure if the NAACP has actually used those words, or if Mr. Munford was exercising a little creative license. At any rate, sounds like "separate but (un)equal...", and both defensive (from a protectionist viewpoint), and offensive.

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Those quotes (or half-quotes) in the headline trouble me. There is nothing in the article that comes close to that quote, although it certainly could have been edited out and if so that is unfortunate. The headline is in fact inflammatory and that may be the intent. It is also very likely that some of the blacks that make up 20% of the county's population and 50.1% in that highly gerrymandered district do actually consider it "their" district even before the first election is held - as they should since it was gerrymandered solely on skin color. Of course the 49.9% white and other residents may feel differently, but they are not important - they are the minority.

More telling and what in my opinion could have been the basis for a much better headline is that they call this the "remedial district". Sounds like they are forcing the voters to stay after school and keep writing names on the blackboard until they finally find a black one.

Yes ivy, separate and unequal and offensive - that's the NAACP in all it's glory. I have said it before, but the best revenge - after we fight the exclusion of incumbents, but then eventually let it go, is to have an election and elect an inept white person and a studious oriental female person from that district. I'd prefer the inept white guy on county commission and the oriental on BOE, but anything similar would do. And no, that's not racist, that's my reaction to the NAACP's racism.

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Hoorah Bob.

I think we should get a small contingency and sit in on any courtroom proceedings between this lacky judge and the facist/racist NAACP. It's be nice to eyeballs on some of these slicksters. It'd be just a show of solidarity. That there are citizens who don't agree with what's going down and we've got the NAACP's number figured out.

Well, you have to *sell* newspapers to make money ...actually you have to sell advertising first and then sell your newspaper. So, yeah, you have to spice it up a bit to tweak the interest factor; that's the headline. I don't have a problem with the byline ...the article does mention not allowing any of the incumbent commissioners to run on the ballot in the newly created ghetto ...dang, I mean voting district.

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How about we just kowtow to your every whim...

KMA Naacp..how do you like those apples?

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naacp & elections

What is really sad is that they don't seem to erealize that one vote at the table is just that--one vote--and they will still have to rely on other commision/board members to exercise common sense and fairness--the same way they do today!

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It's all-race and all the time for those dinosaurs struggling to stop from being extinct.

They haven't figured out the part yet of one vote amongst several has the same weight. Actually, we have a present Mayor in PTC who has also never figured that out either, so you see the problem with math education in the USA these days.

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It's all about getting their foot in the door. Have to start somewhere.

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It's not about getting their foot in the door. It's all about stirring the pot......every day.