PTC gas cart ban question goes to online survey

Gas golf carts could be on their way out in Peachtree City, paving the way for electric only. Photo/John Munford.

UPDATED Tuesday, July 27, 2010 — A proposal to ban gasoline-powered golf carts in Peachtree City would grandfather them for 10 years before none would be allowed to operate on the city’s street and cart paths.

The proposal, in ordinance form, is scheduled to be considered at the Aug. 5 meeting of the Peachtree City Council.

The gas-powered cart ban also is being brought up for an informal vote among residents in an online survey hosted by the city. The survey can be accessed at www.surveymonkey.com/s/TVYC729.

The survey asks gas cart owners to explain why they purchased a gas cart instead of an electric-powered model. All cart owners are also asked if they support, oppose or are neutral towards the proposed ban.

Gas golf carts have drawn complaints from residents due to noise, odor and at least a perception that they go faster than electric carts.

Gas carts also have a bit of an advantage over electric carts since they can be easily refilled when empty. Electric carts must be taken out of service for charging.

Of the city’s 10,496 registered golf carts, just 5 percent are gasoline powered, according to city records.

Mayor Don Haddix has said the city also may have to consider grandfathering in the existing inventory of gas golf carts at local cart dealers.

Haddix said he has received a number of emails already supporting a ban on gas-powered golf carts.

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PTC IN THE NEWS!

Channel 2 Friday 5 o'clock news, Video clip. PTC police officer shown driving a reporter around looking at graffiti. What's even more outrageous than the graffiti is the GASOLINE golf cart captain Dove is driving.

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With all of the bans in place

We could change the name of PTC to San Diego

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govern by survey?

Regarding the gas golf cart survey just out in the PTC newsletter, can anyone come up with thoughts on the validity or fairness of governing by survey? Think about if your on the minority side of an issue.

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gas golf carts

ban gas golf carts...ban lawn mowers powered by gas...ban weed eaters to trim grass....take finger and play switch with leadership of pc city..

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What about

a golf cart that has electric motors powered by a fuel cell that consumed gasoline for fuel? Example

A ban on carts powered by internal combustion engines would be more accurate.

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Let's take this a step further carbon.

Let me introduce the conference bike. One can be purchase that can seat up to seven and as the picture indicates it can accommodate rather large hefty folks like….well like me.

Anyways, we can get one and all us bloggers can ride and have very friendly chats. Of course we have to assign the seating so that the liberals are on one side and the conservatives on the other. Each side can tell the other to “pedal faster” since no one side wants to propel the whole load. Heck, we can even let CHR$ pilot the thing. On second thought........perhaps not.

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Conference bike-Cy!

Best idea yet...just think....

No batteries.....

Gets the lead out.....

No gas......

Well, two out of 3 ain't bad.

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Cyclist,

Excellent bike! I bet the most important discussions are about which direction to head. Now if the bloggers were on one of these rides, we would have to start out in the middle of a large parking lot. Tracking that path with a GPS would be a hoot, it may even disclose a previously unknown law of motion.

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You know carbon the first big decision...

would be, "left" or "right" turn.

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big decision indeed

I bet that there would be a lot of "right" turns, judging by previous coffee turnouts. Hey, I ain't against a right turn when needed, but we all should consider a straight ahead course as an option.

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Grandfather

with a 10 year time limit for grandfathering a gas golf cart you are doing an accelerated deprecation. No matter how old or in how good of condition the cart will have zero value as it approaches the 10 year limit. An immediate drop in value is also highly likely. So if you have a gas golf cart and they approve a ten year time limit you have been spanked.

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Gas Golf Carts

I think the gas golf cart issue is more prevalent on the south side of town. Many gas carts come flying through our neighborhood loaded with kids that ride in from all the subdivisions down Redwine. Lots of garage breakins late at night when they run out of gas in PTC.

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Obviously

Bad has a gas powered golf cart but what he doesn't have a CCW. Not in Georgia anyway.

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Liferfrom65

"but what he doesn't have a CCW"

Was an "is" supposed to be in there somewhere?

BTW, you're wrong on both counts.

P.S.
Is that a picture of your prom date, mother or both?

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verbs and ccws

Verbs such as is are useless. Clinton couldn't even define is!

CCW is that "Continuous Choke Wideopen?"

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PTC council can't figure out whats important

They sit on the fence about dogs that kill people yet the're on a mission to ban gas golf carts. (good thing I have a CCW)

Just how is this going to improve life in PTC? Is the air going to get cleaner, are my taxes going to go down, am I going to get a discount on the next $700.00 set of batteries I’ll need to replace in 2 years, will my cart go slower, will there be less noise? What is it council?

Council wants a tax increase to pay for crap we did’t want in the first place and they think now’s a good time to show how powerful they are by telling us what is good for us even if we don’t care.

Just this week I got an email with a WEB poll from the Info officer, Betsy about gas golf carts, while I keep reading news articles about people getting maimed/killed by pit bulls. Where was the poll for dangerous dog's MR. Mayor? Damn good thing you didn’t release a poll about dogs that kill people.

It seems that the PTC council is ignorant about what really matters around here. The budget comes to mind. Expenses come to mind. Future enhancements to the city come to mind. But NO, let’s fixate on gas golf carts.

The previous administration was bad; it seems that the current one is just stupid!

They are totally against any form of MARTA yet they try to justify banning gas golf carts because of pollution. (Yes the air is getting thick around here but it's not the gas carts causing the problem)

They claim that gas powered golf carts are too fast, with absolutely no proof of any kind, yet we have local laws that dictate how fast a golf cart can go and the council choose not to insest that the police enforce the laws alread on the books.

We're facing an $18 MILLION + debt yet they insist on taking up valuable time having "staff" looking into a non-issue. By the way, what did that cost me?

I’m convinced this witch hunt is being lead by Haddox and Sturbaum. My message to them is to get your collective heads out of your collective @$$'s or a few years from now you two can kiss your current job goodbye!

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Ok deal, Ban all gas carts and put the pit bulls to sleep

I solved the problem bad. I will help with the pit bulls as a volunteer.

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bad_ptc: Dog Killing People in PTC?

What are you talking about? Maybe I missed it but I don't recall any news about an epidemic of dog maulings and killings of people in PTC. Do dogs sometimes attack people? Uh...yeah....always have and always will. As for gas golf carts, ban 'em! They are noisy as hell and yes, they do add to the pollution even though not to the degree cars do obviously.

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Dog killing people

I have to admit that there are dog killing people in this world. There are even people killing people, and people who kill each other.

Are you saying that we can live in PTC with unleashed dogs as the law? Soon "fight" dogs would be getting their exercise on the paths and roads.

If you want a dog, build a fenced in property for him and teach him not to bark at everything. If he barks anyway at 2:00 a.m. bring him into the house!

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borntorun, leash law debate

borntorun, not long ago the city council was having a terrible time trying to decide if dogs should be allowed to remain free to roam the cart paths under their owners 'voice control'.

We have had a number people attacked by loose dogs in PTC, the mayor being one.

The debate went on for several weeks with hundreds of emails and posts both for and against with no action on the councils part.

Search "leash law" on the Citizen. Then Google, "dog attacks, Atlanta".
Reported just yesterday, Boy Loses Part Of Ear In Dog Attack

My point being that this council chose to do nothing about an actual, proven, documented danger to the citizens of PTC yet because some "perceive" gas carts to be bad this council is now moving full speed ahead to ban them with no proof or documentation.

I ask you, where was the city WEB survey about the leash law issue?

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Haddix: Leash Law

Bad_ptc, The Leash ordinance is in work and the majority, at least, want it come forward very soon for passage. The issue is tailoring it to deal with State law and some other issues. I hope it comes forward soon.

I agree that one was very controversial. But I expect to see no voice control and mandatory 6' max leash. The current allowance for voice and no max on the leash length makes it a pretty impotent ordinance.

So it is very wrong to say we chose to do nothing. We share the frustration of how slow many things move due to our lack of Staff to accomplish all needed and wanted in a more appropriate time frame.

The Walking Sign ordinance should be going to Planning soon. Another one we want finished and enacted. It is one that is heavily favored by the citizens as well. But again more complex than many understand.

As for the gas carts, that is the simplest of the three so it will move faster than most. As well very clear cut on strength and numbers of support to get it done.

Of course the Budget issues are there front and center. I believe we have to keep the tax down, be as efficient as we can and expand our economic base. If not we probably will be looking at varieties of cuts in the next year or two as just tax increases are not an answer.

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Lack of staff

All tax payrolls, including much of our defense department, are constantly wanting more staff or more something.
Why would this be? Well in the first place half or more of what they spend their time doing stuff that doesn't need to be done---especially if money is in short supply.
The "staff" seems to want to respond to every little gripe by a half dozen or less complaints, most of which aren't important. It is like doing Triage incorrectly at the emergency room, they can't seem to sort out what is the most important.
Then there is the thing of not wanting to stir up more trouble by staff about what is important---such as allowing ineffective enforcement of private maintenances of homes and lots and items of that nature. Until they stop some of that deterioration, worrying about the length of a dog's leash is stupid and of course people work on what there is to work on.
"Walking signs" is a severe problem, is it? Whatever law you pass about dog leashes and walking signs won't be enforced anyway!
And then of course a few gas golf cars is critical right now.

Soon, our 150 or so police and firemen will be obliged to arrest illegals as Arizona is going to do (yeah, right) then we will need 150 more staff and a jail. Firemen can't arrest? Oh, they also can't turn off electricity and gas at a fire! Can't some of them learn how?
Sometimes radical management is necessary!

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Lack Of Staff?

63% of all PTC revenue going to payroll and the mayor claims lack of staff. Perhaps if there were more folks at the 'worker' level than at the top, things would get done.

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Haddix - Walking Dogs

Have you ever tried to walk a dog on a 6 foot leash? Maybe in NYC, but PTC? come on.

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Mayor

If I were you I wouldn't read this forum! No one says you are doing excellently---just like President Obama.
Is the current leash law enforced?
Do you expect an even tougher leash to be enforced?
How about cats, snakes, lizards, non-domesticated, birds, chickens (how many), and any other alive thing other than humans which no one will advocate leashing---lashing MAYBE!
I have a pair of Chip & Dales, two Chameleons, thirty squirrels, forty crows, a nest of Japanese Hornets, and aphids galore roaming free near my house now---please attend to them!

What is the title of the staff person who decides on leash laws and such? I'm sure the lawyer also get 1/4 hour fee to read it also.
I guess "walking signs" means signs carried by people while they walk. What is the problem with that as long as they stay out of the way? There must be a million of them in Arizona right now! TEAs have thousands also with pictures of monkeys on them----haven't figured that one out!

Isn't all this, including gas cars, against the rules of Libertarians and TEAS?

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The mayor attacked by an unleashed dog! What is our town coming to? Are we sure the dog didn't confuse him for a fire hydrant?

The leash law is in effect for a reason, enforce it!

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The leash law

Covers all dogs and cats---that is all dogs and cats.
Now I know we don't talk about cats---disturbs the women, but those little Mexican dogs look funny on a logging chain!

You are being facetious I am afraid, Mike. One can not take a walk or ride a cart very far without seeing a dog especially on the loose, with or without someone nearby. Never have seen a cat leashed or herded. I do see evidence of them on my car hood and in my flowers and an occasional dead bird, and one squirrel missing half his head.

Has there ever been one police officer who has ticketed a loose dog---never mind the unspeakable cats?
You know demanding that they do so is not going to happen.
They have written about as many tickets and fined as many people for parking cars, trailers, boats and golf carts in their front yards.

The answer: change the law. Allow unleashed dogs and lawn parking. This is the conservative and Tea way, and also Libertarian way. Oh, that sounds fecund also!

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Dadgummit CHR$

Mike King told you not to take the "blue pill".

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bad_ptc: Maulings

Yes, I remember the discussion about leash laws very well. However your original posting referenced people being mauled and killed here in PTC. And yes, anytime an animal attacks a human or another person's pet, that is a bad thing. I have had dogs come after me while running on our cart paths so I don't take the issue lightly. However, there have been no reported cases of people here in PTC being killed in PTC by loose dogs. And for the record, I am against voice controls. If you use the paths, put 'em on a leash.

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bad_ptc: Maulings

Yes, I remember the discussion about leash laws very well. However your original posting referenced people being mauled and killed here in PTC. And yes, anytime an animal attacks a human or another person's pet, that is a bad thing. I have had dogs come after me while running on our cart paths so I don't take the issue lightly. However, there have been no reported cases of people here in PTC being killed in PTC by loose dogs. And for the record, I am against voice controls. If you use the paths, put 'em on a leash.

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borntorun, please learn how to read and comprehend

Nowhere did I say that people were being killed by dogs in PTC.

What I said was, "...while I keep reading news articles about people getting maimed/killed by pit bulls."

You must have "perceived" it, just as council is perceiving gas carts to be bad.

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bad: gas

Since when did we start taking actions from stupid surveys? What Mayor and council want will occur anyway no matter what the inaccurate survey shows.
They are aware that practically everyone in town want them to cut expenses (lay-off 10--15%) and they refuse to do that!
Dogs and cats seem to always be important though. Did you know there is a law to leash your cat and Doberman while walking them? Or, even more stupid---have them under "voice" control! Right, while the cat is eating a bird, and fouling up a flower bed next door, a dog is chasing the cat, and a neighbor is shooting the dog with a BB gun, while he fouls the street or yard while eating a mole! He saves his barking for nighttime or afternoon when some are sleeping from working nights!

How about them commercial lawn mowers that sound like 747s in take-off mode? Missiles from their props can cut a large sapling down! Even kill those dogs and cats.

There are some very important decisions needed in PTC. Of course budget being one, but I do hope we aren't forced by inaction now into eliminating the entire city organization along with all of the paid employees as is happening in many other municipalities in the USA!
It is being done where the Sheriff does the policing (no added employees), and all other very necessary things being contracted that can't be done by volunteers.
Folks, there is a recession, and depending upon definition, a depression coming soon. We lived on way too much commercial and individual credit for way too long. It will take years to allow those loses to adjust to a new economy.
It is just a matter of whether we want a depression to occur almost immediately by spending less, or spending more to put off the inevitable!

Those with their fortune and pension safely stashed want a depression now. Those who have little to live on do not!
Some sort of compassion is needed.

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CHR$....a depression coming soon....

Really! So you have no confidence either, eh? Have you told JeffC about this???????

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cyclist: confidence

Yes, I am confident that we haven't hit the bottom as of yet!
Got little use for those people who with one leg missing from a shotgun blast from his 6 year old, just bought his 5 year old a new shotgun! I am not a believer that false positivity accomplishes anything at all---admitting problems and solving them NOW does.
Didn't Oxendine do something like that? No, his son shot a contributor I think.

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Electric vs Gas Golf Cart

Replacing batteries on an electric costs about $700 if you take it to a local cart dealer every 5 years. My gas cart has a governor and is actually slower than the average electric (my option). Yes, there is a petrol aroma as one passes others, but need a study on the environmental study on the handling nd disposal of lead batteries, while we are at it. Speed is actually the big problem, and it relates to both systems. I think a 10 year grandfather deadline is fair, if the gas cart is banned.

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Disposal of lead cell batteries...

The vast majoity are recycled and the remaining lead is smelted down for other applications.

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Smelt badderies

Wouldn't be better if we smelt batteries down than smell up (paths, that is) with gas? It would smell better all the way around.

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Heck no!!! Battery recycling stinks

I would rather have the "gas".

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No, gas stinks.

I would rather not have to deal with gas. Nor with anyone else having gas.

Especially on the path.

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Goil and cyclist

The human body couldn't function very long without using gas. We don't like to discuss it but it is a natural function. Of course some people are so grand that their gas doesn't have an odor. During the horse and buggy days in cities, many jobs were provided by shovel scooper people cleaning up often after the horses and the horse carriages pulled by horses. The "ladies" turned their head and wrinkled their noses!
I have noticed on "Gunsmoke" with Matt Dillon, that they didn't have any of these clean-up guys---they simply waded through it---Chester kept the Marshall's office swept out of dried boot fallings! The coffee on the pot-belly kept the odor down.

The moats around castles in Europe were stinky places, I don't care how often they showed Tyrone Power or Robin Hood jumping into them to escape. The open toilets in the castle dropped directly into the moat.
No wonder no enemy wanted to cross them.
I once saw such toilets in Ephesus (SP) Turkey, or was it Greece, where Saint Paul served, and they ran directly into the bay where the port was located. No one ever swam ashore or caught any fish from the bay.

Those people in general also wore their clothes until they dropped off them from dirt and rot.

Just wanted to let you know just how well we have it.

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CHR$

Ever heard the expression "Some things are better left unsaid?" Now will you please stop!

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CHR$

You know I was wondering when you were going to get around to one of your off-the-wall commentaries. This one is really "stinky"; kind of like.......well like "bad gas". Go easy on those beans buddy.

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cyclist

Once in awhile I feel compelled to let the current generation of adults and some youth know that people of different times did not live anywhere near as we do now. It proves just what might happen in the next 100 years or so if we don't care.

It is amazing how many people now didn't dream that London about died out in the 1700s and early 1800s from running sewage pf their sudden population increases into the Thymes (or is it Tim's) River----right where they drew drinking water! Cholera about did them all in until a savvy engineer thought of how to build adequate sewer lines (mostly pump lifts).

From 1700 backwards hygiene by humans was much worse than that of hogs.
Hey. they didn't even understand the use of soap.
Cleopatra bathed in goat's milk occasionally---they probably fed the poor when she was finished bathing!
I wasn't there but if I had been I wouldn't have been able to witness that.
Mark Anthony, the dirty Italian, would have killed me. Caesar didn't mind though.

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PTCGOIL I have been on some flights...

where my seat mate was having gas. LONG FLIGHTS

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Cy

Must have smelt baaad.

So now I know why the crew comes walking down the aisle once every once in a while. And here I thought it was to check things out, look at the wings. Silly me.

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PTCGOIL

Rolling down a window is not an option.

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No, I guess

not. If it was, I guess it would give new meaning to the term, "passing gas".

Speaking of gas, I have to get into my gas powered vehicle and go get my peaches now. Ta ta for now.

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Just Imagine

Now would be a great time to also pre-ban these mopeds putt putting around everywhere with the oil burning motors, because that's where everyone is going to go anyway

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Yeah, if....

they were allowed on the path system but they are not, are they?

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Nope

but they will then start clogging up the roads

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FYI....

All local and perhaps all golf courses do not allow gas golf carts on their links and haven't for years and years.

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No ban on gas carts at local PTC courses. Actually should you compare costs over the long run they are pretty much a wash. Hillier courses normally have the gas models due to elevation changes as electric carts may not have the power to last a second eighteen holes.

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And FYI

There are several courses around that have gas carts.

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Really?

which ones?

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really

The Links, Griffin city course, couple in Pike county, several courses around here.

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and.....

how many of those are in PTC or Fayette County? Jes' wonderin'.

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Well obviously

the Pike county ones aren't, the Griffin city course isn't, (do you really need me to tell you this) the Links are in Fayette, and believe it or not, just because something isn't located in PTC, doesn't lessen the truth. For that matter, I'm not located in PTC either. Don't change anything.

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Hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, em....

I said many times that if I were king I would ban those stinky things. I have absolutely no sympathy for anyone stupid enough to buy and use them. They stink and are noisy. So am I but even I don't put out as much pollution as those stinky things.

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rzz, and just what kind of non gas powered car do you drive?

Just because you don't drive your car on the paths doesn't mean I don't have to breath in your fumes any ware else around town.

I suppose you have one of those E-Cars that you drive to work.

Do you cut your lawn with an electric lawn mower?

If not, than shut up!

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rzz Gas

You mean they are more stinky than semi-trailers and delivery trucks? Even Diesel pick-ups?
Even developers and builders grading machines?
You must not own a gas cart business.

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Haven't seen a single

Haven't seen a single semi-trailer or delivery truck on the golf cart paths or a diesel pick up truck. Never a single one.

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Imagine if they were all as loud as most of the gassers..

It would be hard to take. Ban'em. Grandfather for 10 years is fine with me, folks that have them shouldn't be penalized any time soon.

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It's A Novel Approach...

How about the city council and staff declare a moratorium on new ways to invade the lives, property, and daily routines of the citizens?

(1) These carts have been legal since the inception of the path system.

(2) How does the fact that they are easier to refuel and go-again become a basis for more strict regulation?

(3) And they constitute a problem because they are "perceived" -- this... that, or the other?? By whom.. and how many??

(4) I would love to see the scientific research --if any, that has led to this consideration of changing the ordnance.

Are Mr. Mayor and Co. so un-busy they sense the need to take a redux ride on their pop-politics (green) bandwagon?

It's a novel approach to improving life in PTC...

BUT WHAT IF:
We use those elected, coordinated and well-paid braincells to tackle the budget problems, and re-shuffle the priorities of city spending, thus keeping property taxes from rocketing sky-high.

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scribbler

Does your "reshuffle" mean: layoff about 10-15%?

Who sells gas carts around here? What does he think?

They are always too fast is their only fault here. Electrics slow down as they expire. Too much traffic for gas.

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Speed limit

There are less than five hundred of these things in our town. I live near a pretty major path entrance and I rarely even see one of these. Personally I don't like them but I don't think they are enough of a nuisance to ban them. We can't just make an ordinance every time somebody calls city hall and says they don't like something.

If we have to make a new law, how about a speed limit? The safety issue and noise issue could both be resolved with a speed limit. Gas golf carts aren't that loud when they leave the show room. They get loud when they are poorly maintained and when people try to make them faster using after market parts. A speed limit won't help the maintenance but it could prevent people from adding load custom performance exhaust kits.

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Honorable Mayor Haddix:Carts

I'm curious, what emissions standards will PTC use? Additionally, what about every gas powered lawnmower, string trimmer and blower will they be tested as well? Or is that pollution acceptable?

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Cy & Gas Carts

Just another typical PTC "much ado about not nuch" issue that is not worth one minute of consideration. C'mon Mayor, I would have thought NAVSECGRU would have taught you to distinguish between important and irrelevant.

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Gym & Gas Carts

Did you ever see one of infamous East German cars.... the Trabant. Yikes were those ever so nasty with those smelly 2 stroke engines. Anyways, I don't know of any engine manufacturer today that still produces 2 stroke engines the size needed for golf carts. I think they all went to 4 stroke engines. They’re much more fuel efficient and cleaner running.

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Yes, but it does divert attention from what is important.

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grandfather claus

Unless you gas powered lawn tools are grandfathered-in you will have to buy electric from now on.

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matt.barnes

It is my opinion that Fayette County's politicians pollute the air far more than lawn mowers! They cost a bundle with all of the open polls also.

Does Shirley of Agriculture have a paid driver? Seemed to on the TV! Thought you might know.

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grandfather claus

Unless you gas powered lawn tools are grandfathered-in you will have to buy electric from now on.

inkslinger
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Gas Carts

Reduce the grandfather clause to 5 years. Ten years is too long.

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Negative on any elimination or reduction of any grandfather clause. I own a gas powered cart. Due to some physical injuries I haven't used it in over a year but it is quiet, licensed, insured, and well maintained. By the time you replace batteries in an electric cart and pay the electric bill for recharging. There is little, if any, difference in environmental impact and very possibly a negative impact by electric carts due to the manufacture of LEAD batteries.

Am I going to roll over for the proposed restrictions - I don't think so. I don't think it's going to be legally feasible for the city to pursue this.

Mike King
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Cart

Our Mayor and Council have much bigger fish to fry than get the citizens all stirred up over gas versus electric carts. Could it be that they want to divert attention from the budget so they can slip funding for DAPC and a tax hike on us? For the ban to take effect, likely ten years will have passed.

Just saying.

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Really Now???

That's fuel discrimination.

Pull your gas guzzling golf cart over right now and Blackberry us your resignation! We will not stand for discrimination.