Brown, McCarty, Todd victorious

Incumbent commissioners Smith, Maxwell unseated by former PTC mayor and political newcomer

UPDATED 10:39 p.m. — With only 250 mailed in absentee ballots and one early voting machine left to be tallied, it is certain that county commission challengers Steve Brown and Allen McCarty have upset incumbents Jack Smith and Eric Maxwell. Bob Todd also held onto his seat on the Fayette County Board of Education.

Brown has 7,420 votes to incumbent Jack Smith's 6,506 votes in the Post 4 commission race. In Post 5, McCarty has a 7,415 to 6,236 edge over incumbent Eric Maxwell.

Incumbent Board of Education member Bob Todd has retained a significant lead with 8,446 to 5,200 compiled by challenger Charlie Cave.

With 250 mail-in absentee ballots left to be counted and another 50 or so votes from the single outstanding early voting machine, there isn't enough room for a change in the totals to switch any candidate's fortune.

All of the above contested races are among Republicans who face no Democratic challengers in November.

Also up for a local decision tonight, Fayetteville voters weighed in on a measure to create special tax allocation districts to spur redevelopment of several commercial areas off Ga. Highway 85 just north of downtown. The initiative appeared headed for a defeat, with the "no" votes leading 1,148 to 1,012.

Brown, a former Peachtree City mayor and McCarty, a relative newcomer, are certain to shake up the current board of commissioners. The two campaigned together, in large part on a bid to halt the West Fayetteville Bypass project. To do so, however, they will need to convince one of the remaining three sitting commissioners: Lee Hearn, Herb Frady or Robert Horgan.

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Watch Out Dr. Bob!

Seems the machinations of the Smith/Smola Orthrus continue. Watch out Dr. Bob! See article below.

http://www.fayettedailynews.com/article.php?id_news=6100

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Decotis Out On Sour Note

DeCotis expresses ethics complaint at the last hour again Bob Todd before he leaves office. Was he waiting to see of Tod won or not? Now it's left up to anyone to file a formal complaint which DeCotis has made clear and opened the door. He's left on a big sour note as far as I'm concerned.see full article at
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Really jellyfish John and I can't remember 12.5 mil Smith

No spine John decotis opened this door with Terri Smith on trumped up ethics complaints about working together in harmony!
What a crock ! Do we need to go back to the pod casts and see who publicly in a BOE meeting created and acted inharmoniously calling other BOE members liars. Also, who was caught lying red handed about other board members?(smith and smola)

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courthouserules/willie brown misrepresentation

You don't have the ability to talk your way out of your bold face lie. You and Briebart (?) are one of a kind. Chao.

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To whom are you writing?
About the bold-face. What was it? About Willie and me?

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Vote count?

Any idea which vote counts are accurate. The count above, or the AJC which shows Brown by 3300 and some to Smith's 2900 and change. Quite a wide variance.

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Here are the unofficial county vote returns

Use this link for the vote finals, the unofficial (but for all practical purposes) complete tallies:

http://www.fayettecountyga.gov/elections/results-1.htm

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votes

I think the Citizen is right.

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CCB, thanks I think so too

I asked that before reading throungh all of the more recent posts. Actually I'm amazed that any Fayerre news, accurate or not, appeared in the AJC.

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Good questions. . . and the assumed answers are too sad to even discuss. This is 2010 - and after what has been discussed as 'image' destroyers - and nasty politics, this 'silence' makes many just 'shake their heads. Thanks for your contribution. There are people here in Fayette County and Georgia who are asking the same questions.

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Intheknow reminds us we made the right choice

The really distasteful comments from the poor sports proves the votes for McCarty and Brown were the right ones.

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Some folks just can't help themselves..

They are poor winners and losers.

Frankly, I'm still looking for the totals on Cyclist. :)

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Shirley Sherrod and Conservatives

Shirley Sherrod, a Georgia citizen, in the last few days has become a subject of national slander,led by Fox News and a right-wing blogger.

It has become clear that she has been terribly wronged. Secretary of Agricultural Vilsack has apologized for his actions to force her resignation.

So where are our Georgia Senators and Representatives on this matter? Why have they not spoken out to defend one of our citizens.

The Tea Party, which is well represented in Georgia, has been silent. Of course the Tea Party claims it does not harbor racist views--but you would not know it from its silence to this matter.

The elected Georgia Republicans have also been silent. How shameful.

I have watched the entire speech Shirley Sherrod gave at the NAACP meeting which is the subject of all this controversy. It is a wonderful presentation and she appears to be a very classy person of whom all Georgians can be proud.

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Not the Tea Party's fault this administration is hyper-racial

Those are the idiots and pathetic management who watch a brief video clip, have a spazz, and then terminate without any investigation or thought. The fact that it's a Cabinet level "manager" who did this shows the kind of inept and totally unqualified bozos Obama has surrounded himself with.

Sherrod should tell them to take that job and SHOVE IT.

As far as where is the "outrage" by the TP or Repubs......uh, just wait for it. It's a grand opportunity for them to really slam the Obama Administration and you better believe it is coming. It won't be due to sympathy for Sherrod, it will be for political gain. That's the nature of the political landscape right now. Our CHANGE guy who is Prez showed his backside by calling a cop "stupid" without having any of the facts after the angry professor got arrested for being unable to STFU,so don't try to tell me that it's all TP or Repubs when Obama is all about race himself.

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After all of this - there are still those who deny that 'race' is a problem in the country. Unreal. We are known throughout the world as a 'rich' but 'racist' country. What is wonderful is that we are also known as a country that provides opportunities for all - beyond race or class. No royalty here - but my goodness, enough ignorance to go around. Ignorance is an equal opportunity employer in our country today.

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The shame is that while I did not vote for Obama, I thought there was a chance at least with his election to move forward and let everyone air-out all their beliefs and opinions on race, realize just how dumb they sound when examined, and then decide that maybe we are all stuck here together on this planet and might as well get along and see people, not skin color. That was naive on my part. It's even worse now.

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It is Fox News job to pound on such things and they do.
No White or Asian Georgia Representative or Senator will defend Ms. Sherrod. It would be tantamount to defeat.
The TEAs aren't going to defend such a minority as Ms. Sherrod.
Now, I must say I fully understand what her speech was about and although I can easily see where she was coming from, she should have known better and I am amazed that she gave this same dumb speech for 24 years!

It is a speech that draws laughs from black audiences and although she does say that she didn't let her prejudices interfere with her work, and maybe she didn't in the final results, she also lets her audience know just how much she ought to be appreciated for he endurance!
I wouldn't want any of her audiences getting the feeling that it OK to live in the past while doing your job. It will eventually cause trouble.

I am also a little tired of folks indicating that they suffer and work too hard doing their job! So do most.
She finally got caught with her condescending attitude.
There are however six whites for everyone of her race doing the same thing.

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Courthouse and Sherrod

It is not the job of Fox News to repeat lies over and over but it does.

I guess that is OK with you.

Sherrod spoke about her life experiences. You find that dumb. You would prefer she not talk about the racism she has lived through. Well, get over it. Her life experiences are reality in the South. Too bad you have to hear her "same dumb speech."

It is clear that she endured a lot during her life but has gone on to achieve a very responsible position with the Federal Government. I am impressed with her life story.

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I despise FOX. Whatever they said, I don't watch them much, just to see how bad they are sometimes.
I can not appreciate anyone making the same comedic speech over and over for 24 years---especially with just sentences in it that are obviously there to impress her audience with her power and that they also must have such an attitude.
Nixon becam a powerful President also but it did not make him a hero!

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She finally got caught with her condescending attitude.

It's attitudes like yours that keep the 'leaders' of GA quiet on this issue. A book and possibly a movie will be written about her 'journey'. . .while you'll still be having your ego fed from participating on a blog. Her journey from having her father killed by 'whites' - to helping farmers regardless of color is inspirational. The best testimony in her defense is the loyalty of those that she helped. (The 'white' farmers that Fox reported) The sad commentary regarding this situation is the lack of investigative journalism - and the willingness of persons in power to react rather than to investigate and validate the truthfulness of a story. We've seen too many 'edited' and 'slanted' stories within the last two years to accept anything anymore at 'face value'. Thank God - the 'truth' sells!

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Sherrod & Her Comments

She didn't do herself any favors by talking to Media Matters (a certified left-wing bunch) and trashing Fox News. Sorta revealed her political leanings but to what purpose? Neither Fox nor any other conservative group had any influence in her dismissal--it was pure & simple the administration.

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Fox displayed honest journalism? I don't think so. If they had taken the time to listen to the entire presentation - this would never have happened. I don't believe this was poor journalism - but another attempt to play the race card. It's a good card to play when we react to it as if the Civil War is just over. We try to say that 'racism' is over - but we call each other 'racist' at the drop of a hat. Sick. (But it gets attention and sells papers) I think the American people are waking up - and getting tired of this attempt to control and/or manipulate them by playing the 'race card' - no matter who plays it! We are in dire trouble here as a country - with our young people dying in two wars - WHEN ARE WE GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE ARE ALL AMERICANS - with a problem about identifying ourselves by our color?

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You don't really want the leaders of GA to agree with her speech about "thinking about just how much she would help him," now do you.
Cockiness preached to youth makes for cocky youth again.

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Cockiness: Southern code word for uppity. Thanks for your honesty. Your words speak volumes.

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Take the time to listen to the entire presentation. . . then if you think she is 'cocky' - that's your right. Being honest about feelings that were held long ago - and teaching our youth that if those feelings did not exhibit human kindness - and one can change - is a good thing. Being misinformed, and uneducated is dangerous. Truth won out this time.

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Yeah, I know (what Palin says) "read the book."

I have heard way too many speeches and jokes by white people about blacks to condone standardized public speeches to youth about how to handle blacks! I don't need the same from a black speaker either. (24 years of the same speech!)

There re simply thousands of them and they also all end by saying, "well, even so, I bit my lip and have always given them as much help as was possible." That is racist, I don't care how you say it.
Please remember that there are a lot of people who find nothing wrong with being racist. From all races!
As to FOX and the Secretary of Agriculture, and the NAACP: Their principles simply aren't good enough to avoid such intrigue!

Are we to go through this same stuff with the Hispanics as we have the blacks, Italians, Hungarians, Poles, Asians, and American Indians?

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You are most fortunate to have 'heard it all'. Most Americans realize that learning is a lifelong journey - and there is so much to learn during the short time we are here on this planet. This has been an eye-opener for many American citizens. Manipulated reporting is dangerous to our democracy. Ignorance of facts is even more dangerous. An unwillingness to investigate on the part of government, organizations, or individuals is dangerous. Your continued denigration of Mrs. Sherrod - even in the face of the evidence presented - is dangerous.
What was the purpose of Breithard (?). He manipulated the truth for a political reason. He appeared to malign an honest person for his own gain. What is that perceived gain? Embarrass an organization, an administration?
Is Breithard a friend of democracy or an enemy? Time will tell. The story of Mrs. Sherrod’s journey is an inspiration to those who feel the ‘hate and mistrust’ will never end. The most compelling evidence of her ‘success’ is the testimony of the ‘white’ farmers that she helped.

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I took the time to hear the entire nearly an hour speech of Sherrod.

I will say that FOX and their cronies had no right to show just clips--it sounded very bad as a clip.

I think though that she said she had not helped a white farmer before this one! Apparently she didn't help very many black farmers either!

Again I must say that someone put into a nice job as she had can't continue to harp on her treatment as a youth and indicate to young blacks what they must do and feel to get ahead.
They should feel and act just as anyone else. None of them were slaves, and denied schooling. I will also say that much of our troubles with our current youth (all of them) is the way they are raised and the general attitude of the parents.
Ever hear, nearly every day, on Atlanta TV, Mother's defending their felons for crime and that they should be excused? They usually don't even know where the kid was.
I know it is hard to do with 4-5 kids and no husband, but that was a choice and was not required by any white person.
Those few make it very difficult for the majority of minorities who do the best that they can.

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Were you in the south 20/30 years ago? She was not working for the USDA at the time - but another organization that helped rural farmers. She had helped many 'black' farmers. When she took the first 'white' farmer to an attorney - she realized that he wasn't going to help them - and she realized that POOR people, regardless of color have the problem of limited access. She took the 'white' farmer to another attorney who helped them save their farm - as had been done for the 'black' farmers that she helped. Courthouserules - people act based on their experiences in life. We hope that no young person ever has to experience what she did during her youth - however her story is encouraging to young and old alike in realizing that harboring old 'hates' is debilitating. THAT IS THE MESSAGE that Beilbart attempted to ‘hide’. What’s with that? However, when you have lemons – make lemonade. In some quarters civilized discussions regarding race-relations are happening. Unfortunately, there are those who are pleased that our country is still divided by ‘race’, class, and gender. Maybe this episode will also encourage investigative journalism. The American people deserve the truth – not slanted reporting.

By the way - people of color and feminine gender still experience discrimination. Having a 'good' job does not mean that one forgets their past. If one is unaware of ones history - mistakes and unjust acts of the past may be continued. Freedom requires constant vigilance - or you lose it! That's the American way!

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I moved here as a teenager 1n 1956 from the western U.S. I had never seen blatant discrimination before. I could not believe how black people were treated. Inhumane and stupid comes to mind. I recognized then that when this institutionalized abuse came to an end there would be events driven by anger, resentment,hatred and distrust. I wondered then if it would ever be possible to get beyond it. 54 years later I still wonder. As for me, I try and stay on the sunny side of the street.

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I was a teenager in 1956 - and there was widespread racism throughout our country. The difference between the north and the south? In the South - it was the 'law'. Believe me - we have come a long way as far as I'm concerned. Healing of racism is difficult, but it is happening with the younger generation. . . in spite of actions like that of Breitbart. It's interesting that SOME don't hold Breitbart responsible for irresponsible journalism.

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SPQR: blatant

Since you were a teenager I suppose you can be excused,
In 1956 and before whether it was in the "western states" or not, no black or Filipino person (and some others) could get a good job with the military unless it was segregated and none in the Navy---they were servants for officers in the Navy.
I served in 1951-54 and I saw none until late and then 1 only.

I would also assume executive jobs, black secretaries, etc., were extremely scarce---even in the "western states."

I will give you this: white people's manners in general were better in SOME western states.

CA mostly had Chinese and Filipinos to deal with---don't know about "western." Surely not Texas!

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Well Bonk the Navy certainly changed in a few years

From '57 to '60 that certainly wasn't the case. However most of, if not all, stewards on the two ships I served on were Filipino. I had both African American class mates and instructors in FT school.

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Yes, I was born and raised in "the south." In my opinion however blacks were also very mistreated in "the north." Don't see what that has got to do with an individual prompting young blacks to be wiseacres! And also I might say glorifying herself for having survived is not relative, and it still would be interesting as to just how many "poor" she saved farms for! You know working for a minority group as she did and funneling them to lawyers isn't much help. There is also something funny about the white farmer who said she helped him and his wife. She said he went on and on as to his superiority and he now says she was magnificent!
Let us talk actual details.
I don't understand all that situation with the farms anyway. Wouldn't lawyers serve the "poor." Did they all have deeds to their farms? Did they pay their notes and taxes?
Why did they not get "served."
I am also a little tired of bureaucrats claiming to be "serving" when all they were doing was simply working at a job like everyone else.

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I don't understand

There it is!

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Odd way to ignore several pertinent questions I asked! Your answers probably wouldn't be sufficiently clear even if you did answer them!
I know about banks taking over farms----more whites lost farms during the depression than blacks by far. In fact I'm somewhat surprised that blacks "owned" that many large farms in GA!
No point in further arguing. The white house has decided to let this go.
Willie Brown (I think that correct) the former Speaker of the CA assembly, and Mayor of San Francisco today said he was sure that since Shirley Sherrod had been a thorn in Agriculture's side for a long time and that the department set this up to get rid of her there, assuming that she would be transferred.
Another thing is I don't understand why no one hardly can be outright fired when not wanted anymore. I'm not saying she should have been fired but to go around the bush like this is shameful!

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HELLO LINDSEY!

You always have the answers to your questions - and I won't waste my time with you and Kawfi. Night!

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Steve hasn't been on the C in over a week, you're talking to Bonker$, or Dollar, or D.Smith.

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Sherrod & Actions

Look, A.Breitbart is a KNOWN conservative activist. He is the one who first released the original video on one of his websites--NOT Fox News. If the NAACP and the Administration chose to take actions on unverified or incomplete information, SHAME ON THEM!

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O'Reilly got it right however, didn't he?

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chr & O'Reilly

It's hard for some to admit, but O'Reilly actually gets just about all of it "right".

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I rarely watch O'reilly so I can't honestly say whether he gets everything right or not.
I did see what he originally said about Sherrod on CNN (that she must resign immediately) and then I heard him say he didn't do his homework and he apologizes, then he goes on the criticize her again!!!!
I don't like what she said either but I didn't get on TV and say throw her out! (and yes I heard her whole speech all 55 minutes of it.)

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Sherrod and Obama

It's so much fun to watch the Obama administration make such complete and utter fools of themselves with their typical liberal knee-jerk reactions.
Obama was supposed to be some sort of "post-racial" president, but he has done more to divide this country than any other president in recent memory.

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Shame on Breitbart for knowingly lying to the public.

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Shame on Obama for dividing this nation

Throwing Others Under the Bus and Patting Ourselves on the Back on Race

It seems to me that President Obama's unchecked liberalism is in such disfavor among the electorate that supporters of his agenda often invoke the race card against opponents of his agenda both to distract attention from substantive issues and to demonize conservatives.

The New Racial Mess

America has largely moved beyond race. Tragically, our president and a host of his supportive special interests have not.

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The more I hear the more confused I get!

I heard Shirley say today that she wasn't even the head of the department that helped farmers, that she worked with cities, businesses, etc., only!

Was that help to the farmers she discusses happen when she did not work for the government but was a demonstrator for some civil rights private group?

What were the results of those help to the farmers? How many of them she helped are now going to get the few milllion now made available for those who got cheated out of their grants from Washington?

I'm not now sure but what Willie Brown of California isn't right! All this done, he said, so as to fire her out of a department where she was a pain, but then give her another worthless job!

It simply doesn't help anyone when any minority does well but spends their time saying they did well only because of their wonderful "work."
Powell doesn't do it, The General just promoted to four-stars doesn't do it, Condi Rice doesn't do it, Holder doesn't do it, etc.

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I'm not now sure but what Willie Brown of California isn't right! All this done, he said, so as to fire her out of a department where she was a pain, but then give her another worthless job!

Worthless job? Listen to Brown!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg63Wq_d3Qc&feature=youtube_gdata

Listen to all of it. The former Mayor repeats that she was an effective worker for the 'poor' -and not at all 'worthless'. The truth is foreign to you? You are sick, and a disgrace to the majority of Fayette County residents who can articulate their different political opinions based on fact and truth.

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DM: Shirley

We need not argue this further since you insist on sliding around the details that made her a problem for the Agriculture department.
I heard all Willie Brown said.
He said she worked for blacks as a "community" worker, I still say she as an Agriculture employee did little for black farmers. It wasn't even her job to do so. I can't imagine how she got the Agriculture job.
Maybe Malcolm X and Farrakhan should have been Secretary of Agriculture? They "helped" blacks!
Even after all of that I am primarily concerned with her method of lecturing young blacks and others as she did in her 24 years of basically the same speeches.
I'll never understand why she simply wasn't ordered to cease and desist on the "superiority" and "how much help" speech and to just tell the students to work as hard as she did and get ahead, getting better jobs than tax paid ones where you can't get fired.

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Courthouserules/D. Smith/Bonkers$

Your words are speaking volumes about your attitude towards 'blacks'. You, Mark Willliams, and Briebart have the right to express your feelings and opinions. God bless America.

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DM & Shame

I agree, shame on Breitbart. But you just can't get to saying "Shame on the Administration for acting on unverified and incomplete info" can you. I guess it's always "someone elses fault".

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Manipulated reporting is dangerous to our democracy. Ignorance of facts is even more dangerous. An unwillingness to investigate on the part of government, organizations, or individuals is dangerous. Your continued denigration of Mrs. Sherrod - even in the face of the evidence presented - is dangerous.

I guess you missed this earlier statement of mine. Lot's of shame to go around. It's just that it wouldn't have even started without the contribution of Breibart.

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dm & shame & denigration

pls show me where you think I denigrated Sherrod.

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My quote was from a response to someone else's contribution - not yours. Note - it is 'cited'.

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Sherrod Says She was Thrown Under The Bus

But only the Administration can do that. TheSec of Agriculture has apoligized and offered her another job.

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Congrats to the winners..

Now Steve, stop the bypass or all is for naught. That was your baby...no whining, just results.

FWIW, I voted for Cyclist...how many write ins did he get? :)

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Wow – Elected through voter apathy, now twice

He was an embarrassment to Peachtree City for four long years, now he gets to take it up a level on the county commission. Too bad the WFB had to be the issue of the election, as it’s obvious that’s what got him elected.

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No, the road didn't get him elected----like the rest, what he said about it got him elected, along with just fed up with those in power.
The road will be built. Saying Brown must get it stopped is like saying President Obama must personally clean up the Gulf! (and whip terrorists everywhere----hunt em down, smoke em out, and bring em to justice, I heard somewhere. Bin Laden will soon die of old age and maladies as if that made much difference now.
Always leave the muddle east alone (All of the rest of the countries in the world who tried). muddle is no typo!

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Things are looking up.

Congratulations Mr. Brown, Mr. McCarty and an extra congrats to Dr. Bob Todd. Thank you Fayette County for having the common sense to vote for one we know is working for us. I was told once that the order of control goes like this 1. The citizens 2. the BOE 3. the super and so on. If this is the case, the citizens need to get together and fire the 3 musketeers that are on the BOE reeking havoc on our system. Even with the faithful Dr. Todd still there, as long as they outvote him, he can do us no good. Let's get rid of them and get some fresh, sincere people in there with Dr. Todd.
Side note - every time I got a recorded call from Mr. Westmoreland endorsing a candidate, I wrote the candidate's name down with a note - vote against this one. I would not vote for anyone he endorses.

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Thankful

I know it is disappointing to have a low voter turnout but I'm extremely thankful we live in a country where we can vote. I really wish we could solve the problem of low voter turnout on election day. However, for the last several weeks, a whole lot of Fayette citizens stood along our most heavily traveled roads waving signs and asking people to VOTE. Those dedicated folks stood for hours each day in the heat and waved until they were melting and their arms were falling off.

I am very thankful for all the folks who did vote.

I'm very thankful that Cal Beverly provides the citizens with this forum. If it weren't for the Citizen, voters would not have the information and dialogue with which to make an educated voter decision.

To the folks who didn't support our newly elected officials but who are willing to keep an open mind and wish them well, I am very thankful for you.

I am very thankful for the candidates who had the courage to run for office.

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Heads Up and Pay Attention

I truly hope that this is the beginning of a new day in local politics. My greatest wish is that there is standing room only at the School Board, County Commission, and City Council meetings. All of the efforts to put Fayette Citizens First will be in vain unless we are vigilant with our personal oversight.

Get involved before the hot-issue is the ONE that takes your property or rights.

This is not alot of fun, and no one considers local govt meetings as entertainment. I hope that the momentum that has started will continue to engage our community and inspire new leaders.

Speakin of which, there is still alot of work to be done before November, and there are alot of venues to get involved.

I for one will be trying to find out why MATT RAMSEY, RONNIE CHANCE, and LYNN WESTMORELAND endorsed Smith and Maxwell. No one is immune to being held accountable.

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Last for Ronnie Chance

This latest term could be the last for Sen. Ronnie Chance. He' glued to the special interests.

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Keep trying Robert W Morgan. Some might believe you for a while

Robert W. Morgan is one conspiracy theory after another. I made the point, many times, no district voting proposal, never. Term limits, get ready, I will put it on the agenda.

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Right you are, johenry and Horgan will replace him

If Horgan aligns himself with Brown (and the other guy) to kill WFB and extracts district voting as his price to change his vote, he will become a local hero and is a shoo-in to beat Ronnie. Think about it. In 2 years the anti-incumbent thing will have reached a fever pitch and Ronnie will lose to someone. Horgan can truly be a maverick type man of the people if he champions district voting. With that one move his base becomes blacks, pot users, blue collar workers and local business owners. Unbeatable.

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Re ;Heads Up and Pay Attention

I'm just trying to figure out how Mr. Westmoreland keeps getting elected.

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JGF148

. .and the word in DC is that he is truly a poor representative - even for Conservatives. Sad.

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He's one of the most Conservative Reps in DC..

That's why he keeps getting re-elected.

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Westmoreland

He's a moron and a phony. His appearance on Colbert sealed that deal.

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His votes are consistently very conservative...

How he played on a Comedy Show is not really the issue.

IF he's that bad, why weren't you on the ballot?

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Spy: Westmoreland

Oh but you would be wrong, Spy! Ever seen the clip? Go watch it and tell me he's not a complete moron and phony. As for being conservative, I'm all for it but surely to God there are conservatives out there who are smarter than my mailbox. Can't say that about Westie!

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I'll take fiscally conservative votes any day..

over some clip from the Comedy Channel. Feel free to disagree.

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Spy: Westie

I see...I guess to ask for conservative votes and intelligence is too much to ask for these days, huh? Kinda setting the bar low aren't we? Sorry, but he's a moron and a phony.

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What the sam does "fiscally conservative" mean anyway?
Two of the most revered "fiscally conservative" Presidents in recent years put us into debt total than all the others combined!
It is about as true as wanting Billy Graham as President along with Reverend Huckelberry as VP.
Why don't you just say you don't want any welfare, unemployment compensation, health insurance, or foreigners and I'll believe you.

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Fiscal conservative judged by his votes and actions

Against TARP and every stimulus, against the GM takeover....he's one of the few Repubs who actually has a leg to stand on when he says "I am a fiscal conservative." He was bashing Bush for running up huge deficits long before it became fashionable.

Whether he's as dumb as a rock or brilliant, his voting record is one of pure fiscal conservatism and that makes him a lot more "real" than 95% of his colleagues in the House and Senate. Almost all of them-including Reagan and W-were a lot a talk and opposite action.

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Westmoreland & Action

Also blv he's one of very few Congresspeople who did not submit any Earmarks at last opportunity--at least that's some sign of fiscal conservatism.

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Congressman Westmoreland is doing a great job in Washington. That is how he gets reelected.

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spy, gym and tide

Westmoreland is next of course! When is it he runs? Maybe Brown will oppose him----it has to be someone claiming to be a republican!
Talking about embarrassment!

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They endorsed those people due to a misjudgement! (as to who would win).

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Courthouserules is most likely correct

The tea party movement is gaining steam because incumbents lick their fingers and raise them in the air to determine what to do. Everyone in the developer crowd thought the wind was blowing in the other direction as did Ramsey, Chance and Westmoreland.

I think it's great that things are changing.

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courthouserules

You are incorrect.

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Jack Smith you will be missed.

Mr.Smith, I am very sorry you lost the election. Unfortunately it may take a lost for the Citizens who voted against you to truly understand what a great job you have done, all the work you have done behind the scenes for the people of Fayette County. I know the Citizens who do know you and what a great job you have done will be missed. I think god you have put in place a lot of good programs in the county that I know will continue to be a great asset to the county and its employees. I hope the other commissioners will continue to help keep the peace with the other Fayette County municipalities and elected officials. Unlike the day’s of Dunn, Wells, Bost. I truly hope the two new commissioners are independent thinkers and do not become someone’s puppets. God Bless you Commissioner Smith just remember you still have 6 months to keep things shaking. You will be missed.

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A Great BIG "Thank You"

Having lived in Fayette County less than 4 months and having devoted the past 3 months to helping elect Commissioner Steve Brown, Commissioner Allen McCarty and reelect Dr. Bob Todd, I offer my gratitude to those voters who educated themselves to the corruption of Eric Maxwell and Jack Smith. Steve Brown and Allen McCarty have nothing to gain personally as Maxwell and Smith did. Now we have two commissioners who will definitely work for the citizens of Fayette County. Thank you Fayette County Voters!

As we look to 2012, I can assure you "Take Back Fayette County PAC" will be watching Horgan, Frady and Hearn. No longer will the citizens of Fayette County sit on the sidelines and allow their county to be governed by self-serving individuals. The Commissioners work FOR the people of Fayette County. PERIOD!

Ben Nelms, John Munford and "The Citizen" did a great job of reporting the local race. We were kept informed. Thanks guys.

Again, congratulations to Brown, McCarty and Todd. Well done my good and faithful servants.

May our awesome God, who "Reigns on High", bless our County, State and our Nation.

GOD BLESS AMERICA AND GOD BLESS FAYETTE COUNTY!!

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What a sad commentary Crimson Tide

I too was living here when Steve Brown was mayor. It was refreshing to have someone who actually stood up to the special interests instead of doing business with them.

The wave of arrogance with elected officials telling what is good for us was brought to a halt by Brown. He will do it again with the West Fayetteville Bypass, something none of us wanted.

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Doug

Brown will not be able to stop the WFB.

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Newly elected politicians

DBarlow,

If you had lived here when Steve Brown was mayor of PTC, you would know what a pathetic Mayor he was. He was ousted after only one term! Wait and see, Brown will cut his own political throat.

You and everyone else who voted against Jack Smith & Eric Maxwell are IDIOTS! By the way, Brown (unemployed) and his new sidekick will not take office until January 1, 2011. So, do not refer to these two knuckleheads as Commissioners yet. They have no power until 1/1/11.

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Tide

I lived here when Steve Brown and the other Brown were Mayors!
I don't remember pathetic (pity) as describing him at all! Maybe Lenox!
I had no idea that there were thousands of idiots in Fayette County!
The knucklehead Commissioners will plan your downfall between now and January 1! Hope not.....

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Courthouse

Yes, I also find it hard to believe so many people voted for the wrong candidates. i.e., Brown, et al
By the way, just because there will be a change in two commission posts in January does not mean Brown will be chairman. That will take a majority vote in his favor.

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The only idiots

Are those who are so distraught that their personal
Candidates did not win go on a vitriol hate speech rampage against
Those that did not follow blindly your choice. Who by the way use the office to benefit their own selfish interest and not that of their community. To put it in form you understand " sounds like you may be a product of Alabama inbreeding!"

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