Why come if you didn’t like Fayette?

Why did you come?

This is response to the continuing battle being fought over Fayette County’s “at-large” voting system and the NAACP.

One has to wonder why blacks started coming to Fayetteville in the first place.

Was it/is it for the same reasons most white people chose to live here: a good school system, a place of conservative, family-oriented and, dare I say, Christian values? Is it because Fayette is a relatively safe place to raise your family ... relatively free (for the moment) of gangs and drugs. Is it because Fayette has a good system of governance?

Why did you come?

I also have to wonder what the majority of blacks who’ve made Fayette County their home really think.

Now that you’re here, do you really want to turn Fayette County into Clayton, or Fulton or wherever it was you moved from?

Is the voice of the NAACP the voice of blacks in Fayette or is the NAACP simply justifying its existence?

Is the NAACP, along with its puppet activists, trying to shame those blacks ... the “Uncle Toms” ... who dare to be conservative, who have found a better life because of their own hard work and efforts, who are bucking the stereotypical “entitlement mentality” and who are tired of the age-old out-of-touch activist rhetoric of the NAACP?

Is it really “the Advancement of Colored People” when you have a federal judge give you what you want and perpetrate the entitlement mentality?

Or are you so drugged by that “Kool-Aid” you do not even see it as such?

How much sweeter would it be if blacks in Fayette, on their own merits, fronted an electable candidate that all citizens of this county could support.

Would that not lend a truer more satisfying meaning to “the Advancement of Colored People”?

So, the question begs, why did you come?

Mike Mahoney
Fayetteville, Ga.

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Yes, a settlement was offered

For the record, it is true that Frady, Horgan and Hearn offered the NAACP a settlement that would have allowed for district voting. The map they offered the NAACP was the one county attorney Scott Bennett finagled through on the Federal Court in Newnan. The county essentially sued itself to get a settlement it wanted.

The NAACP, surprisingly, turned them down. The map was very similar to the one the NAACP approved of in the Board of Education settlement.

Now when I am asked what bearing Frady, Horgan and Hearn's district voting settlement offering might have had on the forming the Federal Judge's ruling (ie. Were the three amigos admitting guilt to the judge?), all I can say is, "Who knows?"

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Why did they come, Mike?

Black, white, hispanic, asian all came here to live in and enjoy the environment, schools, location, recreation or whatever else they found attractive. I doubt a single person had district or at large voting on their check list of things to consider. And I doubt anyone came here with the sole purpose of "changing" our county. That's why we really need to look at who is to blame for this lawsuit and all this racially charged discussion. It is certainly not the 50.1% black families that were found to create this convoluted district. They are being singled out solely because the color of their skin and I doubt they were consulted, nor do they appreciate it.

The blame for the situation goes to the NAACP, their lawyers, a couple of sore loser black politicians and a couple of token blacks who reside here that were needed to give standing to the lawsuit. Grand total - maybe 10 people. And of course the activist judge who probably doesn't even live here.

That's why the best revenge against these 10 or 11 people is to stop paying lawyers on both sides, give up the fight now and have a district-based election next year and elect a female hispanic or something - just so she is the best candidate. I guarantee you that most of the 50.1% black voters and the 49.9% white asian, hispanic voters in that district will vote for the best candidate and not along racial lines. The NAACP disrespects the black voters in that district (and indeed everywhere) by projecting that 100% of the 50.1% will vote based upon skin color. I know, some will, but 100%? Come on - that's insulting and just plain stupid.

So, let's have district vote and show the NAACP how little influence they have. When we stop giving them and their lawyer money, they will go away - next stop could be Henry County.

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District voting ...
Robert W. Morgan wrote:

So, let's have district vote and show the NAACP how little influence they have. When we stop giving them and their lawyer money, they will go away - next stop could be Henry County.

Unfortunately Bob it's out of our hands. The Federal Judge ...a Bush appointee I might add ...has single-handedly decided our way of choosing Commissioners and BOE members is prejudicial and racist to blacks. He's going to let the gerrymandering begin to ensure a 100% chance a black representative is on the Commission and the BOE. The ruling by this judge is itself exclusionary and racist yet is "acceptable" in order that a black person be elected.

I have to wonder about the Hispanics and Asians and other minorities calling Fayette County home. Maybe we should make special districts for the other minorities so they can elect their candidate. And while we're at it, lets make sure we always have woman and a Democrat or two on board. Why do blacks feel it their "right" to consistently demand special dispensation. This is not 1963. We have black mayors, governors, congressman and even a two-term President. And if this is not the case in this instance then the black community of Fayette County needs to start voicing, loud and clear, their opinions and tell Judge Batten to leave the status quo and tell the NAACP and its minions to pack it up and go elsewhere.

I can see your point though. But it relies on the hope the black populace will not vote like lemmings a la President Obama. I would like to think the blacks who've moved here and live here will be just as outraged at how a special interest organization and some racial activists have stepped in and dictated how things are going to be. I really wonder if the NAACP speaks for the majority of blacks in Fayette County. My belief is they do not.

Interesting note about federally appointed judges:

"According to the Constitution, Article III federal judges hold office "during good behavior." That means that as long as they are not impeached and removed by Congress, they are appointed for life."

Quoted from:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_term_of_office_for_US_federal_judges

I wonder what constitutes "good behavior"?

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Actually they are pushing for a special election this fall

which makes everything I said even more likely. Low turnout and the resentment that some blacks feel will get us new commissioner - just not a black one. The 50.1% is too thin.

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RWM-I respectfully disagree
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I guarantee you that most of the 50.1% black voters and the 49.9% white asian, hispanic voters in that district will vote for the best candidate and not along racial lines.

I'd love to agree with you but the fact that over 90% of black voters voted for Obama makes it hard for me to. I agree that the NAACP is pushing this but I think the Democratic party may be involved too. If there is 1 chance in 10 that this judges ruling can be overturned, then I say fight it.

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Dude, I respectfully disagree as well. Upgrade your ride,BTW..

Obama got a Caddy Beast, least you can do is get a G37. They have 4 doors if you a family guy, Get a used one if the new ones are too costly. Dark gray is the best color.

The 90% of blacks voting for Obama is old news. Might be true, but it was a long time ago in terms of what he has put the country though with his idiotic socialist and control-freak policies. Blacks (many still unemployed ) in Fayette County know this and some/many will deviate from the 100% "vote for the bro" stuff that the NAACP anticipates.

Remember, this is a 50.1% minority/majority district. Those 35 gerrymandered black people in the .1% make for a very slim margin. I still maintain that black people in the new district were targeted because of the color of their skin and they resent it. Wouldn't you?

Dems behind this? Well, Duh! This is the stuff they live for. Divide and conquer. That's what the Dems do. All about power.

1 in 10 chance? No, it is more like 1 in a million. Ain't gonna win in a Georgia court - give it up and let the district elect a young Chinese male graduate student to serve on county commission and an undocumented Hispanic worker to serve on the school board. Up yours, NAACP.

Then spend the money we didn't spend on lawyers on preventing white criminals that live in PTC from robbing our convenience stores. Ok with you? Ok with you - DM?

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Sorry G35 Dude, not so

If you read the newspapers or watch TV you'll see the Governor is constantly having to remove the African-American school board members, Clayton sheriff, etc.

I don't really think they're voting for the best candidate.

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johenry-reread

If you reread my comments I think you'll see that we are pretty much in agreement. There is no way that around 95% of a race of people thought that Obama was all that great.

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Obama's support from 'blacks' in the election

The majority of 'blacks' voted for Obama because they were proud of his accomplishments; his oratory; his understanding of 'all Americans' - since his was raised by a 'white' mother and 'white' grandparents. They felt in the last two presidential elections, Obama was the best candidate; they were joined by Hispanic-Americans; Asian - Americans; women voters and the youth of this country. The 'black' community agreed with Ophra on this election - Obama was the one to become the first African-American President of the United States. I guess other citizens agreed. The election is over. The black voters in Fayette County have voted according to the ability of the candidate in the past. Very few are aware of the 'fear' expressed here - and I sincerely hope it remains that way. What an insult to equate the homeowners/business owners of Fayette County with those criminals who have been creating havoc to our peace. Those criminals cannot vote in Fayette County. Do those who are expressing this fear feel that your neighbors are criminals and inferior to you?

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Because some of us have lived through what you are sugesting

"So, let's have district vote and show the NAACP how little influence they have. When we stop giving them and their lawyer money, they will go away - next stop could be Henry County"

Sorry, it doesn't work that way and we have seen it first hand...NOT WORK.
You are wanting to gamble they will do the right thing. Do you not think the people of DeKalb didn't come up with the same naïve notions? It is logical but logic has nothing to do with it. Look at cold hard facts. Those can be found by looking at the current state of DeKalb, Clayton, and south Fulton. Did you get in the Kool aide too?

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Mike

I don't belong to any special groups or classes of people. I am, however, a fairly new resident here. As such, I'd like to share why my family came to Fayette County and offer some musings on the current district voting controversy.

My wife and I bought a small home in Dekalb County in 2003. Although many of the people in the immediate area were white, the overwhelming majority of people in that area are black. Not surprisingly, my elected representatives were black Democrats. During my 8 plus years there, I was never able to elect "the candidate of my choice" in any election. Moreover, I did not feel that my "unique concerns" were important to those elected to represent me. For example, I did not agree with Cynthia McKinney that constructing a "Tupac Shakur Memorial" was an effective way to revitalize Memorial Drive. Neither did I agree with Hank Johnson that the island of Guam would "become unstable and capsize" if additional Marines and Sailors were stationed there. You get the idea.

However, despite my dissatisfaction, it NEVER occurred to me that I should band together with my white neighbors and sue the county for the creation of a specially gerrymandered "white minority" voting district. Just imagine the accusations that would have generated, especially from the organization now pushing district voting here in Fayette County.

What did occur to me was that - as soon as I could afford it - I should move my family to an area where we would be represented by people who share our values. And so we came to Fayette County. We love it here. We do not miss Dekalb's failing schools. We do not miss having panhandlers approach us in our driveway (routinely). We do not miss having our home burglarized and waiting 2 hours for police to respond. We do not miss cleaning up beer bottles, used condoms, and empty drug baggies from the curb in front of our house (routinely). We do not miss hearing gunfire - rivaling what I heard in Iraq - on New Years, Independence Day, etc. You get the idea.

To sum up, we came here to JOIN Fayette County, not to change it. We recognize that it was doing just fine before we arrived - that's WHY we came! So I doubt I will ever comprehend why someone would choose to move to a desirable community like ours... and then condemn those who worked hard to make it desirable... and then begin working tirelessly through bully tactics and lawsuits to change the very systems responsible for the community's desirability... You get the idea.

Perhaps DM can explain it to me. I'm sure it has something to do with slavery. Yawn.

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SilverStar

I too came from DeKalb. First I lived in Stone Mountain, then ran to Tucker. Very sad what they did to the schools there when they got control. Before the takeover, they were some of the best anywhere! Look at them now, a mockery.

Were you there when Brown ran for Sheriff? The prior black one had him shot dead in his drive way after he won. I would see black gangs walking the pretty little streets of Tucker on my way to work at 4am on a Sunday morning. (they were still up from Sat night)It was very scary, knowing I left my child at home. I moved to Fayette county so we could be safe and my child could have a good school.

Yes, I remember Cynthia McKinney too. I had a hard time with the thought just cause she was black they would elect someone so trashy. But they did. And that is why we are all here. That is also I think why some of us won't sugar coat the answers to DM's BS. We are tired of running away from the fight just because we have been taught to pity the poor down cast black and turn the other cheek. I owe my child more than that. We took a loss on our house, he left little friends behind and we started over. We didn't come here to change it. We came here to be safe and enjoy what was here.

I don't get it other than the money deal. They HAVE to know they tear up when in control. My take is they drink the Al Sharpton kool aide and aren't too smart.