4 teens arrested in PTC armed hijacking

4 teens arrested in PTC armed hijacking

Four teens from Palmetto, Union City and Atlanta have now been arrested following an armed hijacking Saturday afternoon in the Walmart parking lot in Peachtree City.

Peachtree City Police spokesman Mark Brown said Zaviaire Baitley, 16, of 2281 Country Club Drive in Atlanta, will be held at a regional youth detention center under the charges of felony attempt to elude, armed robbery, hijacking a motor vehicle, participation in a criminal street gang, illegal drug possession and numerous traffic charges.

Investigators on Saturday night arrested 16-year-old Demetrious Watson, of Shaggy Hickory Trail, Palmetto, and Nathan Gullatte, 16, of Phipps Road, Palmetto. Both were charged with armed robbery, hijacking a motor vehicle and participation in a criminal street gang, Brown said.

Michael Long, 14, of Lower Dixie Lake Road in Union City was arrested July 7 and charged with armed robbery, hijacking a motor vehicle and participation in a criminal street gang, Brown said.

Brown said the armed hijacking occurred as the driver of the vehicle was exiting her car. The driver remained at the scene after the hijacking and was unharmed, Brown added. A preliminary investigation revealed that the offender was armed with a pistol and confronted the victim in the parking lot demanding her property and vehicle, said Brown

Brown said officers responded to the report of an armed hijacking in the Walmart parking lot on Saturday at approximately 2:30 p.m. As officers responded to the scene other officers set up a perimeter at the major intersections of the city.

Minutes later officers located the offender driving the stolen vehicle traveling northbound on Ga. Highway 74 from Ga. Highway 54, Brown said. The vehicle failed to yield to the officers and a vehicle pursuit was initiated. With the assistance of the Tyrone Police, Fairburn Police, Fayette County Sheriff, and the Fulton County Police, the suspect was pursued northbound on Hwy. 74 to Interstate I-85.

Brown said the offender avoided "Stop Sticks" deployed by the Fayette County Sheriff's Office in the area of Hwy. 74 at Milam Road continuing northbound on Hwy. 74. From I-85 northbound, the pursuit continued on Interstate 285. The suspect was involved in a motor vehicle collision while exiting the interstate at the intersection of Cascade Road and I-285 where he was taken into custody, said Brown.

Brown said investigators worked through the night to locate the vehicle the offender and the other suspect arrived in just prior to committing the robbery. The suspect vehicle was identified as a light gray 2002 Toyota Camry four door bearing North Carolina Tag ZVW-2181 with damage to the center of the bumper.

The Peachtree City Police Department thanked the Tyrone Police, Fairburn Police, Fayette County Sheriff's Office, and the Fulton County Police for their assistance in apprehending the suspect. If anyone has information that would assist the police department in this or any other incidents please contact 770-487-8866 or submit an anonymous tip at
www.peachtree-city.org/police "Crime Tips".

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The victim is a

middle aged black woman from Coweta County.

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Really People!!!!!!

I'm not sure how you consider yourself right (righteous) or to say "they" keep racism alive when this post has 45 of some of the meanest, entire race bashing, closed minded and ignorant comments;however,article "Cops nab armed robbery suspect" has 5 comments 4 of which simply praise the police. There is an issue here IN WHOLE. I have no more energy for this, it's sad that we are and will continue to be a country divided.

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Really People!!!!!!

I'm not sure how you consider yourself right (righteous) or to say "they" keep racism alive when this post has 45 of some of the meanest, entire race bashing, closed minded and ignorant comments;however,article "Cops nab armed robbery suspect" has 5 comments 4 of which simply praise the police. There is an issue here IN WHOLE. I have no more energy for this, it's sad that we are and will continue to be a country divided.

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Mike, what an arrogant unmerited comment. PTC has it's own problems and usually from many of your own residents doing their deals on the hidden cart paths. While PTC and Fayetteville are still great places to live and raise a family, PTC is no island protected from the issues. Crime follows the pool of victims and has no boundaries.

Your ignorance is apalling and name calling requires you to first look around your own circumstances before targeting another group. With people and attitudes like your's PTC looks less appealing.

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Thugs caught in Fayette County

Only positive comment I can come up with is that the thugs committed the crime in Fayette County, hopefully will be tried as adults and spend the rest of their days behind bars. Where were the parents of these juveniles? Do they have a father? Mother? Surely the parents if they have any knew they were members of a gang. Their parents now know they are members of a gang.
Could we ask the NAACP to concentrate on stopping gang violence instead of getting so worked up over district voting. Seems their priorities are in the wrong place

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Naturegirl has a really good point

Focus the NAACP on stopping gang violence. Seems like that would do a lot more to help the community instead of forcing district voting upon us. Maybe we could work out a trade - district voting will be allowed every year that there is no violent crime committed by blacks in Fayette County. They can't be penalized for the white guy last week That just wouldn't be fair.

If these NAACP people ever have the courage to come out in public - let's ask them that question. I mean even though the C and the P stand for Colored People, one could assert that keeping colored people (their term, not mine) out of gangs, out of jails and not letting 16 year olds carry guns would be some type of Advancement - that's what the A stands for - Advancement.

That being said, the kid must be a pretty good driver to avoid those stop sticks and getting as far as he did. Shows everybody can excel at something.

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A ..for "Advancement"???

Cold hard fact: *two* of every *three* black children born in this country have no father.

Therefore the majority of black children are born into a dysfunctional family ..an incomplete family. A family missing a father.

For most boys there is no father figure to teach them how to be a man ...what it means to be a man. There is no father to model to a boy how to love, cherish and respect a woman ...to be a husband to his mother.

This statistic made the front page of USAToday a couple of years ago. The only one to decry the failure of the black family was not a black politician, or an activist, or the President or even the NAACP. Nope. It was Bill Cosby. In fact the NAACP was surprisingly mute on the subject.

Advancement? Maybe their political agenda ...

I wonder if these four young lads had active fathers in their lives? These four teens are now going to spend a good portion of their young lives behind bars. No doubt this was part of some gang initiation ...the male role model that takes the place of a father in black society.

Advancement? Not for these four young teens.

I do not understand a culture that can allow this to happen to its basic building block; the family.
I do not understand how the NAACP can turn a blind eye to the tragedy that occurs daily.

Advancement? I think not.

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I do not understand a culture that can allow this to happen to its basic building block; the family.
I do not understand how the NAACP can turn a blind eye to the tragedy that occurs daily.

I do not understand a 'culture' that could allow the backroads of 'white' Appalachia or Georgia or Mississippi or Alabama to continue in a country like the United States. If what you consider the 'culture' of Black America to be detrimental - maybe if you and yours developed strategies to change the southern backroads or Appalachia - and share them with organizations such as the NAACP, by working together, these cultures which are detrimental to our country could be 'corrected'. Thanks. I feel that too many are beginning to believe that most 'under-educated, poor whites' live like the family of that little girl who has become so popular. (Sorry, I don't watch the TV program - I consider it denigrating to a class of people who exist in our country.) Maybe by working together - advancement could be achieved for all.

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The NAACP is a business. They survive only if enough people pay dues to keep them going. Therefore they must address/create the issues that the black masses will pay for. That means District Voting not putting pressure on their own to clean up their act. Even when people like Bill Cosby or Herman Cain speak on this issue they become ostracized by many other blacks.

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I'm just sharing this with you - so that you have a picture of the purpose of the national organization. I do understand that the exposure to the NAACP in Fayette County may be your basis for your opinion. . .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Association_for_the_Advancement_o...

http://www.naacp.org/news

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Characterize people by their actions and you will not be fooled by their words.

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After studying the Constitution in the '50s and then touring the South with my family before visiting other countries, as a young adult,I became a worker for Civil Rights in the United States of America. I believe in the words of our Constitution, which are, in recent history, being applied equally to all citizens in our country. The actions of the majority of the citizens in Fayette County are, in my opinion after living here for ten years, exemplarary of Americans living together respectfully and peacefully. The practices/ attitudes that I encountered in the southern region of our country in the '50s and early '60s is only apparent,in my experience, in some comments in this discussion. I consider these comments the heartfelt expressions of those who fear those who are 'different' based on skin color. All persons interested in continued progress in race relations are working through community organizations, churches, and educational institutions in helping citizens of all hues to move past injustices of the past. We have in our country a segment of citizens who are uneducated, unemployed, and un-productive. This segment is identified by some as 'poor'. The poor come in all colors in the United States. The un-productive come in all income levels as well as 'hues'. There are different ideologies in our country - and citizens have the lawful right to embrace legal ideologies. Unfortunately the implentation of some ideological practices has involved racism.. I think our youth will move beyond racism and the need to denigrate Americans of a different hue in order to defend an ideology. Repeating the sad statistics of some minorities in this country does not change the fact that there are Americans of all hues and backgrounds who are in these situations. Our goal in this country should not be comparing but correcting destructive behavior that could harm the fiber of our country - regardless of the color of the citizens skin. The criminals who are creating fear of blacks in Fayette County are not the voting residents of Fayette County. The expressed angst with the NAACP by some is, IMO, as if I was expressing angst with the KKK in 2013. The NAACP is a national organization and one of goals of the national organization is to protect voting rights of those whose rights were denied in the past. The courts have questioned Fayette County. That is in the hands of the legal system. It's been 48+ years since the passage of the voting rights bill. There has been little change in the outcomes in Fayette County. Some say racism has nothing to do with the outcomes.

I applaud the actions of the citizens of Fayette County. I, and others, find some words expressed here often insulting and based on prejudice and ignorance . . .and representative of a minority of citizens in this county. After ten years, I find that the majority of citizens in Fayette County treat one another with respect and civility. The vast majority live here because of it's small town ambiance; better than average school system; effective law enforcement; and great neighbors of all backgrounds..

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My comment was intended for the NAACP. Your response seems to have more to do with the Citizens of Fayette County. So I'll attempt to address both.

The NAACP was needed at one time. But they have outlived their usefulness. As a result the people getting rich from this group have to create a need for their service or go out of business. Much is made of the fact that no black has been elected to local office in over 100 years? But if you check the census you will see that as recent as 20 years ago the percentage of black population of Fayette was barely double digits. That and the fact that Fayette is a conservative Republican county and most blacks tend to be Democrat made it hard to find good black candidates. So was it realistic to expect a black to be elected? I don't think this part of some evil plan, that is just the way it was. If you want a black to be elected put a Herman Cain type conservative black on the ballot and lets see what happens. But the NAACP in my opinion is causing much harm to race relations in Fayette by trying to ram something (district voting) down our throats that will dismantle something (County wide elections)that has worked for all citizens for many years. District voting will cause each member of the board to represent their district. Much like congress works today. (Is that the desired goal?) The current system causes each member to look out for the entire county. Many blacks have also benefited from a good Fayette education under this system that the NAACP wants to destroy without actually citing an example where blacks were harmed by this system. The only logic is to force a black democrat into office. This is nothing but a power play by the Democrats and the NAACP. It will not do anything to help anyone. In fact it may cause harm to an educational system that is already suffering. That hurts us all.

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You are entitled to your opinion of the NAACP - with your experience here in Fayette County. I am not familiar with the active members in the Fayette County chapter. The NAACP is one of the national Civil RIghts organizations in our country - and voting rights for all citizens is just one of it's goals. Blacks are not the only Democrats in Fayette County. To focus on the local NAACP is interesting. It was the state NAACP that brought the voting situation in Fayette County to the court. It is the legal right of the people of Fayette County to elect whom they please. As I said before, I am not aware of any 'black' person who is inclined to run for an office in this county. I am sure there are people in this county who are more politically astute and aware than I. In politics, there will always be a power play by the perceived 'underdog'. I remember the days when it was said that integration being rammed down the throats of citizens of our country would be disastrous. I suppose there are citizens here in Fayette County who still believe that. Your view of the current system is great for maintaining the status quo. The status of the past in any situation changes.

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Many blacks have also benefited from a good Fayette education under this system that the NAACP wants to destroy without actually citing an example where blacks were harmed by this system.

How many of these 'blacks' have you communicated with? There are many 'blacks' who participate in the 'good Fayette educational system as administrators; teachers; parents, etc. Fayette County is integrated by citizens with kindred tastes IMO. It's interesting that only in Fayetteville has a person of color and a Democrat been able to work cooperatively with 'whites' and Republicans. Do you know why?

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Your view of the current system is great for maintaining the status quo.

Well I don't believe in change for the sake of change. One of my favorite sayings is, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!". And I've not yet heard the NAACP (local, state, or national) explain how blacks have been harmed by this system. In fact your statement below seems to suggest otherwise.

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There are many 'blacks' who participate in the 'good Fayette educational system as administrators; teachers; parents, etc. Fayette County is integrated by citizens with kindred tastes IMO.

I totally agree. So how does that support the need to change the system?

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As long as writers like Mike Mahoney share their opinion in public, people will look carefully at what Fayette County is doing to maintain the status quo in representation of all citizens . (Not only 'race' - but other issues, etc.) If a system has a spot open to criticism under a legal mandate - it might be wise to fix it. Are there documented strategies available for the courts to show an attempt to 'fix it'? (Apparently not, since the decision has been upheld).

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I totally agree. So how does that support the need to change the system?

I guess if one observes that one small segment of this county can exist with electing a minority - one would wonder what is happening in the rest of the county. 48 years is a long time. Persons continue to 'brag' about the 'whiteness' of this county - and how they ran from surrounding counties. We haven't met any of those people in the ten years that we have been here. Yes, the 'black' population has grown in Fayette County. Until the economic crisis, Fayette County was considered a good investment. Evidently it still is - since business and educational institutions are locating here. It may be wise to change a perception of Fayette County that may discourage major investment by those who appreciate the ambiance here. The movie industry and educational institutions are integrated - they don't want to expose their workers to the ignorance of the past. I for one appreciate the posters who express their political views without the 'racism'.

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From what I'm reading I don't see any argument from you as to how district voting would improve the school system. And I still have yet to hear a real example of how blacks have been harmed by the current system. You seem only to be concerned with making a point to some mysterious "they" out there (NAACP maybe?) that you think considers Fayette County "A bastion of white supremacy". Something that I personally have never heard. So your point to me seems to be lets forget the kids and make a point!

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The Fayette County governing bodies are not suspect of not doing their best for the 'kids' in the county - they are under suspect that after 48 years, they have not elected a minority to a county governing body. Please re-read what I shared:

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I guess if one observes that one small segment of this county can exist with electing a minority - one would wonder what is happening in the rest of the county. 48 years is a long time. Persons continue to 'brag' about the 'whiteness' of this county - and how they ran from surrounding counties. We haven't met any of those people in the ten years that we have been here. Yes, the 'black' population has grown in Fayette County. Until the economic crisis, Fayette County was considered a good investment. Evidently it still is - since business and educational institutions are locating here. It may be wise to change a perception of Fayette County that may discourage major investment by those who appreciate the ambiance here. The movie industry and educational institutions are integrated - they don't want to expose their workers to the ignorance of the past. I for one appreciate the posters who express their political views without the 'racism

There are those in this conversation who express some sort of pride in the perceived 'whiteness' of Fayette County. The courts are citing Fayette County for non-representation of some of their citizens on two governing bodies. It appears that history and legal statements could not persuade the courts that this was erroneous. Are you saying that if a minority sits on the BOE, the children in Fayette County will suffer? I guess maybe the courts have a point. Thanks for sharing your opinion. I don't have to be convinced - it's the courts that are making these decisions - based on historical outcomes I guess.

I'm not surprised that you have not heard of Fayette County's 'white bastion' reputation. I have expressed that I feel the county does not deserve that description. But I read more than conservative papers - and yes, G35, for many, many years Fayette County has been described as a 'white' county. In the 80's black students in black colleges were advised not to get 'caught' in Fayette County after dark. There are contributors to this discussion who proudly state they are leaving or have left because of the 'blacks'. I think it's ugly - but in the ten years that I have been here, I have not personally encountered such ignorance except in these discussions.

Ask a person who lives in the District why they feel they are not represented on the two governing bodies. I can't answer for them - and if you really want to know the answer - you need to have a conversation with them. There is nothing mysterious about the residents of Fayette County - but it appears that there does need to be better communication between the citizens of different sections of Fayette County. As I stated before, there are people in my area of Fayette County who do not agree with some of the countywide decisions that are made. (And from what I read regarding PTC, there are citizens there who do not always agree with decisions made by the two governing bodies in question - and race has nothing to do with the issues of disagreement.

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From what I'm reading I don't see any argument from you as to how district voting would improve the school system. And I still have yet to hear a real example of how blacks have been harmed by the current system.

G35, I'm sure that I am not the only 'black' person that you converse with - and all 'black' people do not feel the same way. I express my personal opinion regarding Fayette County after living here for ten years. Believe me, I feel that Fayette County's educational offerings are superior to most of Georgia - and the schools that I have visited are role models of diversity - from administration to custodial staff.

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Are you saying that if a minority sits on the BOE, the children in Fayette County will suffer?

I really would like an answer to the above question. Thanks.

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Are you saying that if a minority sits on the BOE, the children in Fayette County will suffer?

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I really would like an answer to the above question. Thanks.

Once again I wonder if you're really reading my posts. In one post I clearly stated that a black conservative similar to a Herman Cain could very easily win in the current system. And do a very good job. Not so much for a liberal democrat as this is a conservative republican county. So to ask me this question feels like you're trying to bait me.

I also explained why I'm against district voting. Go back and re-read. My concern is for the future of the Fayette County School system and the kids. Yours appears to be trying to appease some people that you either can't or won't identify.

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Not trying to 'bait' you. We are responding to words as we perceive them. The idea that liberals and conservatives cannot work together is foreign to me - but I understand that it is a prevailing thought in Fayette County. I am not the court. I have no control whatsoever regarding District voting in Fayette County. To be surprised at gerrymandering in order to get a minority/Democrat/Republican/Libertarian candidate is naive. Are you saying that a minority, liberal, Democrat would be detrimental to the Fayette County school system? What would a person with those credentials do to ruin the existing school system? Thanks.

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Yours appears to be trying to appease some people that you either can't or won't identify.

Read the court's rendering. 'I' have nothing to do with the District voting decision in Fayette County. I am not against it - but I would like to have a representative rather than four or five who may not feel they have to worry about a female, liberal, Democrat. Even with those credentials - I still have to pay my taxes, etc. The person who represents me may not have the same labels as mine - but at least I may have some say-so with at least one person sitting on the governing body rather than dealing with four or five who really don't have to worry about my opinion. Just sayin'

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Are you saying that a minority, liberal, Democrat would be detrimental to the Fayette County school system? What would a person with those credentials do to ruin the existing school system? Thanks.

What I'm saying is that a liberal democrat, minority or not, would have a hard time getting elected. So you see it's not really about color. It's about ideology. And to force one onto the board by divide and concur methods could be harmful. For someone that has so little regard for congress you are in favor of making our school board operate like congress. I.E. concern only for my little area not for the the entire county. Can you imagine the next time we need to re-district? Or close a school? How about divide tax money? Are these concerns naive?

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Are these concerns naive?

Not in a region/area that is so tied to an ideology that there is no room for cooperation. You see, back in the 'old days' - there were liberals and conservatives in both the Democrat and Republican Party. Can you imagine citizens coming to a meeting to work for the good of children and leaving their IDEOLOGIES at the door? There are a few issues where ideologies may be important - but you don't have to be a conservative Republican to care about the safety of children; wanting the best teachers; the best facilities; etc. for the children of Fayette County. Just my opinion.

Maybe my Fayetteville neighbors really do vote for the best candidate. . .since we have a minority Democrat on the City Council - and all h ---- has not broken out. Just sayin'

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You continue to side step the real issue of district voting. Even if you had 5 conservative white male republicans or 5 black liberal democrats they would not hold hands and sing cumbaya like you seem to think they should. You see district voting ENCOURAGES competition between districts and therefore it encourages a LACK of cooperation.

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Maybe my Fayetteville neighbors really do vote for the best candidate. . .since we have a minority Democrat on the City Council - and all h ---- has not broken out. Just sayin'

I feel like I'm beating my against the wall here. I've tried to make my case but with you it all comes back to color doesn't it? I know, I'm naive, childish and immature.

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The loudest critic of the t-splost complained that we should not vote for it because Fayette County was going to be a donor county after all the taxes are spent. The splost didn't pass.

There will be no cooperation within the BOE or Commission if we go to districts. In fact, I would vote for the biggest, baddest bulldawg for my district to fight for my needs. Forget the nice church guy down the block who wants to be friends and work things out. I want the guy who says my district spends more than you in taxes and we want our share of it. We ain't gonna be a donor district. I want my streets paved in gold and the cops watching my neighborhood. My kids school will get all the good new stuff. Don't really care what anyone else gets as long as mine get the best.

Man that really sounds like a nice way to live amoung your neighbors. Seems it would encourage rich and poor neighborhoods.

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You've made your case - I disagree. I have been privileged to be in the company of persons who disagree on issues, but have succeeded in working together for the betterment of their respective communities. Read our history. Don't beat your head any more, my personal experience trumps your belief that cooperation is impossible and/or detrimental IMO. Have a great day.

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Don't beat your head any more, my personal experience trumps your belief that cooperation is impossible and/or detrimental IMO. Have a great day.

I'm sure it does IYO.... LMAO

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Bill Cosby has not been ostracized. (Nor has Herman Cain - who is very active in his church which is culturally African- American.) Just saying. Bill and Camille Cosby continue to be honored by the black community for their many generous contributions to Historically Black Colleges - especially Spelman (a college organized for 'black' women) which is located in Atlanta, GA. - and his outstanding TV program which shared with/and exposed America to the life of a middle-class black family. Those 'blacks' who speak against Cosby or Cain, I just want to make clear - do not represent the 'black community'. They are entitled to their opinion - and 'blacks' have different opinions and ideologies like most Americans. Thanks.

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You painting a bad picture, G35 - get a G37 to cheer you up

The idea that blacks or "colored people" would keep the whole racism thing alive is very repellant to me. We have gone through all the punishment - reparations, affirmative action, great society, welfare, food stamps, etc. What else is expected? They want a completely black President or something? Enough already. We are done giving. Take some responsibility.

Rick Perry vs. Hillary in 2016. Either is fine with me. Just keep Joe Biden away.

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I do not want to paint a whole race of people with the same brush. But I do believe what I said about the NAACP. Once racism is really dead what do they do? Go out of business.

I'm seeing a lot of Rand Paul stuff. It feels like the Republicans may be trying to position him for a run. Personally, I'd like to see Huckabee go again. But I'm not opposed to Rick Perry. Hillary could well be the democratic nominee but I think that she is such a polarizing figure that her chances of winning would not be good.

Actually this is the last year for the "G" series. In 2014 Infinity's G37 becomes a Q50. But it'll probably be a "Z" series before I can afford another one. LOL

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Car Hijacking

Astounds me that these thugs made it as far as they did. I mean its 25 miles from where the vehicle was hijacked to where he was finally stopped. I'm sure the police never lost sight of the vehicle and I'm sure they were being cautious because there were hundreds of cars they passed along the way that could have gotten caught up in this crime if the police had not been smart in the way they handled the pursuit.

While I've always "felt" pretty safe in this particular Walmart because it is set so far off the road, surrounded by many other businesses and only 1 direct way of egress from the area, the bottom line, boys and girls, is that nothing substitutes for diligence, observation and general awareness of people in your surrounding area. This, alone, is a good reason to stay in your car until you finish a cell phone call because you cannot pay full attention to your surroundings while you're talking, texting, checking internet prices, etc., etc. on your phone. (And, yes, I have been guilty of all of the above, but I think it is time to stop inattentive behavior.)

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Same topic, different story

Here is proof positive they (yes they) are as stupid as they look!

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/story/22770448/georgia-carjacking-suspect-sl...

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Kinda got out of the habit of carrying now that there's not much reason to visit downtown Fayettedale.

Guess this is a game changer.

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According to Fox 5 tonight

the car they used to get to WalMart had been stolen earlier the same day in Clayton County.
There is also a 14 year old they have not found yet who was part of this.

Multiple calls to 911 from witnesses in the parking lot got the PD onto this very quickly, according to the report.

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Outstanding!

Anybody wanna complain about seeing cops all over the west corridor anymore? I couldn't be more proud to call this place home. Thank you guys and girls of the PD for all that you do for us. Anybody else notice that not too many major crimes go unsolved in this city?

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What would I do?

Bang, bang, bang, bang no knee shot.....just dead center left side of chest.

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Agreed!

same here.....no wing 'em in the knee shots from me or the others in my immediate family who also carry.....multiple shots to the widest part of their body, dead center. Maybe the punk thugs will figure it out and go back to Clayton & Henry & Fulton counties.

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wwyd?

What you would do if you were armed and saw this going down in a Wal-Mart parking lot?

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Hey SPQR

Good question.

If I was armed and was going to intercede I would analyze the situation without getting caught-up in the rush to do something immediately. Realizing that pistols are great to dispatch one of these POS thugs targeting, however, can be a little problematic beyond 20 feet for a "pea shooter" or 40 feet for a .45 ACP (a real handgun).

As always, a 9-1-1 call and keeping "eyes" on the incident is an option.

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As always, a 9-1-1 call and keeping "eyes" on the incident is an option

That action could prevent a 'trial'.

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Davids mom - trial

If only that was the case. But now we have a trial that - as I write this - Piers Morgan is describing that it's all about race, guns and culture. You know, if the police were involved at the get-go then the headlines would have been far different. Oh well, it's in the jury's hands now.

BTW, hello from Singapore.

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wow! Do you bring home great buys for your wife? Great shopping. (Bet you don't have the time.) This Zimmerman Trial/Travon Martin is so sad. I agree with you. If the police had arrived before the observing began outside of the car - Travon would probably be alive. The law is interesting regarding this situation - but I wonder if Travon had survived, would his defense be the same as Zimmerman's? Have a safe trip back!

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No police necessary...

...as no crime was being committed; only a person being watched by a neighborhood watchman, due to recent criminal activity in the area. Then, two young people made two bad decisions - Zimmerman to follow & question Martin; Martin to confront and attack Zimmerman, resulting in a tragic ending.

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Davids mom - Great buys

Yes, Singapore is all about shopping. It's geared to higher end life style then say Hong Kong. But honestly, I pack light for these trips. Not a lot room for "stuff."

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Great buys!!

I hope to return soon - before my shopping legs give out!!!

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If the police had arrived before the observing began outside of the car - Travon would probably be alive.

I don't think I've heard before, what was the police response time?

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The law is interesting regarding this situation - but I wonder if Travon had survived, would his defense be the same as Zimmerman's?

Very interesting question.

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Trial

I've been glued to the TV! We'll see tomorrow or sometime soon. I don't think the police thought it was an emergency from Zimmerman's calls - but from the 911 calls that came in from the residents. Zimmerman called the non-emergency number - and at one point told the operator that he did not see the 'suspect'. The operator thought Zimmerman was in the car. Fascinating case.

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wwyd? You mean -wwid? What would I do? Shoot him, of course

If he had a gun in his hand and was pointing at another person -2 shots to his knee. Then if he turned toward me with his gun - 2 shots center body. These predators do not deserve to live among us.
I trail my wife when she shops (never at Wal-Mart, of course) and am fully armed and there has never been a problem. Tempted to go the Pavilion to go hunting, but the wife won't go. Nor should you. Maybe the POPO should troll for these scumbags undercover and take them down.

Actually cameras are the solution. That's how they caught the very first white convenience store robber in Fayette County.

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WWID

A knee is too easy to miss. And gives him a chance to shoot her or you. Dead center right from the start.

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Like I said, a knee if he is pointing a gun at another person

or maybe a hip. After all if he's facing away from you, you don't want to shoot him in the back - if you kill him that way, he will morph into an innocent little teenager who just got in with the wrong crowd and you'll be the one in jail. The knee or the hip disables him and might save other people.

But if he turns and starts pointing at you -center mass - 2 shots. Then 2 more.

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It's time to leave and let them have the county, Clayton has no more room so the bleed over is coming to the once fabulous county that we loved so dear. I myself after 35 years in the county have gave in to the crime and left the state all together. Good luck to all the law enforcement in the county they will need it.

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Sparerib - Home Grown Crime

Leave if you like but consider this, the robbery high jack was not a home grown crime, it could have happened anywhere in the Atlanta area. The fact that it happened here was random but it illustrates what an involved citizenry can do to catch perpetrators.

The convenience store robber was captured in a similar way.

No sparerib, our problems will not go way by running away from them, in a civil society based on law the citizens must be involved. Diligence and enforcement go hand in hand when confronting evil, no matter from where it comes. The fact that we are capturing criminals in PTC and Fayette sends a strong signal to those that dare break the law in our community. We should demand that the Fayette County Commission put before the voters a SPLOST, to fund greater law enforcement efforts. If we want to live in a safe and viable community we will have to pay for it and we should send a clear message,"not in our house!"

One other idea, let's post at all entrances to our county and cities the estimated % of gun ownership with a % of the citizens that have a conceal carry permit. Forget about seatbelt percentages, let's just send the criminal element the message of risk in doing "business" here.

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No sparerib, our problems will not go way by running away from them, in a civil society based on law the citizens must be involved. Diligence and enforcement go hand in hand when confronting evil, no matter from where it comes. The fact that we are capturing criminals in PTC and Fayette sends a strong signal to those that dare break the law in our community. We should demand that the Fayette County Commission put before the voters a SPLOST, to fund greater law enforcement efforts. If we want to live in a safe and viable community we will have to pay for it and we should send a clear message,"not in our house!"

Excellent reply.

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You are a coward.

You are a coward.

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You are a coward....REALLY?

So if a law abidiing tax paying citizen chooses to use his/her means, which they earn, to move out of an area for what ever reason...you have the nerve to call them a coward? The cowards are the trash that terrorized this lady and took her car. What is a greater shame is she was not packing, and he or they are not on a cold metal tray, breathing no more.

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You live where big rib

Lets look up the crime stats and compare...me thinks you may be surprised

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Now what?

Now that all the people who decided to abandon shopping in Fayetteville in favor of the "safety" of Peachtree City have learned that criminals look for opportunities everywhere, they will have to do all their shopping from the safety of their home computer. Oh wait - that may not be secure either!

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123mom-No safe place

There is no "safe" place. Even if you stay home you could be the victim of home invasion. That is why I laugh at the gun control people when they say things like "I just won't go anywhere I'd need a gun." With Shannon Mall gone and Southlake going under these thugs need a place to go hang out and commit their crimes. They took Clayton and we're next.

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They took Clayton and we're next.

Not with an observant citizenry and our outstanding law enforcement! There are communities within range of the areas where criminals reside - and they are relatively safe because of their own actions and law enforcement (public and private).

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How ridiculous! My point is

How ridiculous! My point is that no matter where you go, there is a chance something could happen. People looking for a "target" are all over the world. The lesson to remember is to be aware, use common sense, and don't assume that you are "safe" because you are in a nice area. An acquaintance of mine was raped 30 years ago in a very nice area in Asheville, N. Carolina. Mary Shotwell Little disappeared after being abducted from Lenox Square when it was a sleepy open-air shopping center in still undiscovered Buckhead.
I'm tired of people saying "they took Clayton and Fayette County is next" because they refuse to stand up for their communities instead of running. It seems to me that many places across the country that were "taken" are now homes for a new generation of singles and families. They are showing that people can live in racially diverse places and live happily. We need to look up from our smart phones and pay attention to our neighbors around us as we go about our business every day.

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See posts above.

LOL I guess this is what I get for trying to agree with you?

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I'm tired of people saying "they took Clayton and Fayette County is next" because they refuse to stand up for their communities instead of running.

At the risk of being chewed out again, I agree!!! LOL

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How ridiculous! My point is

How ridiculous! My point is that no matter where you go, there is a chance something could happen. People looking for a "target" are all over the world. The lesson to remember is to be aware, use common sense, and don't assume that you are "safe" because you are in a nice area. An acquaintance of mine was raped 30 years ago in a very nice area in Asheville, N. Carolina. Mary Shotwell Little disappeared after being abducted from Lenox Square when it was a sleepy open-air shopping center in still undiscovered Buckhead.
I'm tired of people saying "they took Clayton and Fayette County is next" because they refuse to stand up for their communities instead of running. It seems to me that many places across the country that were "taken" are now homes for a new generation of singles and families. They are showing that people can live in racially diverse places and live happily. We need to look up from our smart phones and pay attention to our neighbors around us as we go about our business every day.

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Hijacking Thugs

A future of multiple stays behind bars.

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2 other 16 yr. olds from Palmetto arrested

all 3 charged with "Participation in a Criminal Street Gang" added to the list of other charges.

Seems little Zavi squealed like a pig. Guess you do that when you trying to be a member of 'da club.

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Armed carjacking

Wish the report listed what kind of car they took. I am curious as to what kind of vehicle attracts these kind of thugs or was it the fact that it was a woman.....

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I am curious as to what kind of vehicle attracts these kind of thugs or was it the fact that it was a woman.....

I'm sure that both factors as well as the fact that she was alone played a role in this person being chosen.

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So, Mr. Been to Jail Baitley

live(d) on Country Club Drive in the Atl., eh? Such a cushy sounding address, isn't it?

Right in the lap of luxury, directly across from the Greenbriar Mall. Had not heard much about that place in a while, so checked out their website. Man, It's beeeyouuutiful.

Headline: Greenbriar Mall, Southwest Atlanta's Family Shopping Center.

Nice family oriented place. Well, until you read down the page a few inches and you have the mall headline events listed.

First up? Pregnancy Mobile Clinic! 2nd Thursday of every month 12 noon to 8pm.

Then, a few events down, right after "Be a Mall Walker", comes the ever popular and in demand Free HIV/AIDS Testing..every 2nd Friday of the month from 11am to 3pm at the MAIN ENTRANCE!

Must have taken a wrong turn, these 2, and ended up in our little alternate universe here by mistake. Who would EVER want to leave all that behind?

To be redundant, but can't be said enough. Thank you to the law enforcement who deal with this shoe-scraping dirt every day.

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Teen Arrested

I'm not shocked... Great job to all LEO involved and glad to hear no injuries were reported... Was surprised to see his name released considering he is a juvie... Now go get the other "bad guy"...

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PTC Cops

Really earning their pay this week. Great job.

What's up with all these armed robberies / carjackings?

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Its obama's fault

Same old, same old..... Obama told these thugs that they have been wronged by the Whitey that 'didn't build that'. The enabling race hustlers give them a pass time every time. No one wants to hold the diarrhea responsible for the 70 percent out-of-wedlock birthrate that plagues the community.

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Of course Joe Kawfi is right again.
Joe Kawfi wrote:

Same old, same old..... Obama told these thugs that they have been wronged by the Whitey that 'didn't build that'. The enabling race hustlers give them a pass time every time. No one wants to hold the diarrhea responsible for the 70 percent out-of-wedlock birthrate that plagues the community.

You have access to info the rest of us do not have...you know they are people of color and you know that the President mad3 ea call to them.

What exactly are you smoking?

I hold parents of minors responsible for this stuff and I would like to see them held accoutable as well. I don't care what color they are, clearly the "village" failed to raise them right and the "village" should be held accountable for the children who did this.

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Village, smillage, RKS...

...as I agree the parents are mostly at fault here. Children are often a reflection of the environment of where they were raised and the values they were taught, so..., well, you do the math.

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You've got this all wrong! Don't you watch the news? Obviously, Zaviaire and his homies are members of a Tea Party youth group. They probably acted out because they're disheartened by the prospect of a second Obama term, government controlled health care, the Benghazi/IRS/gun-walking/NSA scandals, SCOTUS rulings on gay marriage, etc. Sadly, this incident will likely prevent them from attaining the rank of Eagle Scout. And I haven't heard comments from their fathers yet, but I'm certain that they are completely shocked and devastated. Ahem.

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I'm surprised there was not an armed citizen nearby

Must have been some witnesses to have license plate and description of the other car. Should be fairly easy to track down the other guy.
2:30 on Friday afternoon. Strange time to be out hijacking cars. Then he drives right towards his country club community? Very odd.

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