Smith’s untruthful about bank ties

I get an eerie feeling when Fayette Commissioner Jack Smith tries so hard to convince everyone he’s upstanding and ethical. Board of Education Chairman Terri Smith tried her best to assure people that she could do no wrong, too. Look at what happened to Terri Smith, getting caught with her hands in the cookie jar by not disclosing almost $13 million worth of real estate she owned as required by state law.

Commissioner Jack Smith being on the board of directors of the Bank of Georgia isn’t a good situation for us. For some reason, the developers always seem to get a foothold in our local government.

The Bank of Georgia got in trouble with the FDIC because they were overly involved in development loans.

I don’t know who Commissioner Smith is trying to fool by saying the bank is not oriented toward builders and developers. There are many newspaper articles supporting that connection.

In fact, just take a look at some of the board members of the bank: Pat Shepherd, a former board member of sales and marketing of the Mid-West Georgia Homebuilders Association; Donnie H. Russell, owner and president of manufactured housing sales company Parham Industries, Inc. as well as director and part-owner of manufactured home production company Signal Homes; Arlie C. Aukerman, former chairman and president of construction firm A.C. Aukerman; Fayette County Commission Chairman Jack Smith, an elected official who votes on land use and zoning matters; Thomas G. Sellmer, former owner of real estate management and investment company Sellmer Property Management; Vincent M. Rossetti, president of Ravin Homes, Inc. as well as manager of real estate and office management firm MiRome, LLC; and William Robert Hancock, Jr., partner in real estate firm F&H Investment.

You owe it to yourself as an informed voter to read the FDIC’s “Order to Cease and Desist” for Jack Smith’s Board of Directors at www.fdic.gov/bank/individual/enforcement/2009-06-06.pdf. There are a lot of things Commissioner Smith is just not telling you.

Having to deal with the pressure of a failing bank is bad enough, but I can’t help but worry that Commissioner Smith will be pressured to abuse his power with voting on developer zoning cases when they might be potential clients of his bank.

The other issue that Commissioner Smith tries to conceal is the dreadful 2009 SPLOST he and the other commissioners tried to push on us. It took a great deal of audacity to ask the citizens for another $137 million in taxes in the middle of a distressed economy.

The worst part was the commissioners had to admit they hadn’t seen the SPLOST project list until the night they voted to go ahead with the voter referendum. We, as citizens, weren’t allowed to even peek at the project list until after they voted for the referendum. Doesn’t this sound like Congress?

It’s depressing when the elected officials in the ivory tower decide to keep stacking the debt on our backs at the same time we need them to lighten the load. Really, what motivates elected officials to act this way? Not a single one of those SPLOST projects was worthy of being funded.

Commissioner Smith and Commissioner Maxwell were perfectly content to keep squeezing the money out of our wallets. Government needs to live within its means. The county commissioners want more taxation and less representation. It’s un-American.

We are tired of being tuned out by our local government. When the people we elect get too comfortable in the seat of power, it’s time to let them go. Smith and Maxwell are well past due.

Virginia Allen

Fayetteville, Ga.

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It's a good site

The people from all over the county came out and wrote letters to the editor (like the one above) pointing out where Jack Smith was not telling the truth.

I lot of them are giving Steve Brown's web site address. The site is very good and it includes a lot of information and video from Jack Smith to make it easy to compare the candidates. If you are undecided, go take a look at www.sb4faycom.com.

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A final Thought

A Final Thought
I’ve learned a lot over the last few years of my life. One of the main things I’ve learned is who I can count on when it comes to getting down in the trenches and fighting for a cause. Some folks will get down in the mud and help the cause and some folks just walk away. Some folks will look over their shoulder but others don’t even look back..

Steve Brown and Allen McCarty have said from the beginning of this campaign that their concerns are with the citizens of Fayette County. They have voiced those concerns many times.

From the very beginning, Steve Brown has taken a lot of mudslinging. In the face of much ugliness, he has continued to state documented facts. That hasn’t been the case with the opposing incumbents.

Steve Brown has never abandoned the trenches. It got pretty dirty down here, but he stayed the course. He continued to address questions in the blogs. His opponent didn’t do that. Even though folks were ugly to him, he continued to personally and publicly answer questions and clarify matters. His opponents didn’t do that.

Steve Brown and Allen McCarty are good men to have in the trenches.

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24 Hours To Go, And It's All Over

Smith has yet to confirm or deny all those other key development people in the Bank Of Georgia. It's safe to say he won't do it at this late date. Unfortunately, many people don't read the news, and don't know what's going on. If they vote Smith back in, we get what they deserve.

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CCB Is Right About The West Bypass

Jack Smith said it wasn't about the developers, but all anyone has to do is look at the map. Go to the www.fayettecountyga.gov website search for Active SPLOST Projects click on West Fayetteville Bypass Phase II. Go to the bottom of the page and click on the map. Then look at all the open developers' property.

It is about the developers. The Rivers Elementary School is about the developers.

Jack Smith was untruthful/lied again when he said the Bank of Georgia was not a developers' bank. Pat Shepherd, the bank's president, clearly stated in this paper that the bank catered to builders and developers in Fayette And Coweta County. Jack Smith sits on the Board of Directors for the Bank of Georgia.

Jack Smith can tell us anything, but the facts don't lie.

Please remember that when you go to vote tomorrow.

Please visit www.sb4faycom.com and www.allenmccarty.net and www.splostpollcom for all the facts.

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People are hot about the West Fayetteville Bypass

I think this election is hinging on one major issue and that's the West Fayetteville Bypass. Everyone I talk to thinks its and underhanded deal to help some local developers and its a huge waste of tax dollars.

If Jack Smith was a good politician, he would have dumped the bypass. It looks really bad for him now.

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There is bypass anger in some

My vote this evening was definitely anti-WFB. The woman in front of me was anti-WFB too. I'm not saying everybody is anti-WFB, but it is out there.

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I Liked the Peachtree City Mafia Comment!!!

The post about the PTC Mafia (Bob Lenox, Harold Logsdon, Herb Frady and Fred Brown) supporting Jack Smith was a classic.

It's not rocket science those guys support the West Fayetteville Bypass and MARTA buses!!!

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Nuk and Borntorun,

I'm counting on the voter's good sense.

Folks in Fayette County are highly intelligent people. They don't want to see their hard earned tax money rolled out on the West Fayetteville Bypass just to have Jack and his crew come up with another SPLOST because they have spent the 2004 SPLOST money on a developer's road. They have already tried to push another SPLOST down our throats. It didn't work. We voted it down.

Just think about it. If they build the WFB one developer, alone, will get 3/4 mile of pavement and utilities courtesy of the Fayette County tax payers. I don't think homeowners should have to give up their land and homes to the county just so developers can profit. If a developer wants to develop his property, let him do so but not at the expense of others.

Why would anyone in their right mind vote for someone who has proven himself to be untruthful? He just plain lied about the Bank of Georgia's Board of Directors. We proved he lied. He said there were 2 developers on the Board. We went to the Georgia Secretary of State's office and found that 8 of the 11 board members were tied to development. It would be 9, if you take into consideration that Jack Smith is directly tied to our County zoning and Land Use.

I am sick and tired of Jack Smith's lies. I don't trust the man.

Why would anyone vote for someone who lies?

For anyone still in need of documented facts, please visit www.sb4faycom.com and www.allenmccarty.net and www. splostpoll.com

PLEASE VOTE TOMORROW.

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Accepting the lies

Borntorun, the one reoccurring theme with the Smith supporter's posts is their willingness to accept Jack Smith's lies and poor decisions.

I believe that's why the tea party movement is gaining so much traction. They are tired of the lies and the neglect.

When $50 million of our tax dollars are being wasted on a road of little or no consequence, I can't accept that's the way it has to be. It's obvious who benefits from the road, as Ginga1414 points out above, and it's not the taxpayers.

When Jack Smith told us to our faces that he would not support mass transit buses in Fayette County and then voted for them multiple times, I can't accept that's the way it has to be.

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Doug (Again)

I am not a Jack Smith OR a Steve Brown supporter. Don't care for either of them to be honest with you. However, regarding your comment about the Tea Party being "tired of the lies", then how can they support Brown since he's been caught in a few too?? That's what I'm trying to say...all politicians lie and say what they believe the people want to hear to get elected. Cynical? Maybe but prove me wrong.

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What lies?

You have said twice that Brown lied. What did he lie about?

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Smith lied? OMG...LOL! He probably did but the cynic in me says ALL politicians lie! Republican and Democrat...heck even the Libertarians, Tories, Whigs, Conservative, Labour, and Tea Party candidates. Brown has been caught in a few lies too so that cancels out that argument. And unless it is your house being forelosed on, fact is most people just dont care. They just want to know "How does it affect me?". Not saying that is a good thing but just a fact. And I really dont think most people give a rat's you know what about Smith serving on the Bank of GA's Board. Most community leaders serve on Boards. Again, not saying it's a good thing but just a fact.

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"looks really bad for Smith" Hmm....

I guess we'll see tomorrow. Considering the humiliating defeats of Brown's last two races and all the people he has thoroughly alienated, I sure am not betting on a Brown victory tomorrow, no matter how inept Smith has been.

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Borntorun

I believe you are vastly underestimating the contempt for incumbent politics and Smith and Maxwell's unsightly record. Try to find anyone who is in favor of the West Fayetteville Bypass.

The incumbents pet project SPLOST was crushed 3 to 1 a year ago. Brown gets a lot of the credit for letting people know the SPLOST was poorly conceived.

I believe Smith will get hammered on his transit bus votes too. Very few like the idea.

Smith's conflict of interest with being on the board at the Bank of Georgia and his accepting expensive gifts in exchange of tax breaks for a local company don't work for him either.

Most of his campaign ads were full of lies which were exposed by letter writers to this newspaper. The letter above these posts shows he lied about the bank to the voters.

With all that, I give Brown the edge.

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Doug: Brown vs Smith

You know, I actually asked several of my friends and neighbors about the WFB and Smith's serving on the bank's board and you know what? Right or wrong, it barely registers on the Richter scale with them! The contempt you reference is mostly here. Most folks are not into the minutiae that is beaten to death on this blog. So, given that, studies show that given that most people don't study the issues, when they pull the curtains in the voting booth, they will vote incumbent the vast majority of the time. Is there an anti-incumbent mood sweeping the nation? Absolutely! But I sense that is on the national level and possibly at the state level but not here in Fayette County because of a road or who's on a bank's board of directors. Guess we will know tomorrow night who is correct.

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Are the voters paying attention?

Would you have guessed the voters would have crushed Smith and Maxwell's pet project SPLOST in 2009 by a huge margin?

I suggest you ask your friends and neighbors and see if they voted in that one.

Borntorun, it's alright to pull for your candidate, even if he favors the West Fayetteville Bypass, mass transit buses and lies about his developer bank as the letter above describes. I just hope you are wrong and the voters are paying attention.

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No, no....I'm no fan of Smith OR Brown. I'm just saying that right or wrong, just because there are some on this blog that get worked up in a lather about these issues does not mean the general population does.

As for the SPLOST vote, I dont think that was an "anti Smith/Maxwell" issue as much as it was people are just tired of taxes. I don't think there is a correlation between the two.

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That's not true Nuk

Out of the last three recent SPLOSTs, only one has failed.

The significance was the commissioners admitted they had not even seen the SPLOST projects until the meeting they voted them in. I was at that meeting and there was a five minute presentation from a county staff member. So they voted to push a $130 million sales tax increase (saying it was the right thing to do) based on a five minute presentation. That's neglect.

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Don't know about that Doug

I can think of 4 that failed and two that passed, but maybe memory is recalling this incorrectly. I'm talking BOE also.

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SPLOSTs

Doug is right. In recent history, two out of three passed (one transportation and one education passing). Both school bonds also passed. Prior to the school bonds (I think it was 1998) a school SPLOST failed.

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SPLOST no correlation at all

Most recent SPLOSTS have failed in FC going back a while so I hardly see the latest being voted down as meaning anything other than "no, I don't want yet another tax increase."

Versus Logsdon and later Ramsey, this place was at least 80% behind Brown and the site's own polls and the numerous pro-Brown posts showed that. Obviously, the voters who showed up on Election Day represented a much larger segment of the population. No knock on The Citizen here, but if anyone thinks that a few people constantly harping on one issue makes up a majority of the population.......sorry, think again.

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Well Said NUK_1

It is amazing how some on here think they have influence on local issues. I haven't seen it. The few times where what they want and what actually happens is pure happenchance and certainly not due to the couple dozen folks who sit up all hours of the day and night and bang out blogs.

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Mike

For our county's sake, I hope you're wrong.

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Doug

Thanks for the civility.

I may well be wrong, but 23 years of living in Fayette County leads me to believe I'm right.

Let's discuss in 24-30 hours.

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You've got a deal.

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Borntorun, NUK!

Come tomorrow evening the results will likely show Smith winning by a 58%-41% with 1% for the Cyclist. Maxwell wins with the same ease. Too many in Fayette County would not wish the poison of Brown on themselves for four years.

Half of the bloggers supporting Brown are none other than the man himself.

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I don't know what fortune teller you use but it would be interesting to know! Do we really need a failed bank director in such power? Even more than a despised fellow republican? Boy, this section of the Citizen would burn like acetone with Steve on that board, wouldn't it?
Hey MIKE, I saw some interesting figures today of a California City---population 35,000, household income of $40,000--mostly Hispanic, who is paying their Chief Administrator $787,637 per year and the Chief of Police is paid $457,000. The Assistant Administrator only makes $376,288! They didn't say what a good-looking secretary might make.

I feel better now about what we pay ours. Hope they don't read this.

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Mike King

I believe you are spot on, sir. Both with your predictions and with the observation about the many Steve Browns on this site.

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Mike King

And sir, I forgot to say thank you for your service to this country!

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Born and Mike

I see no evidence of Steve Brown having many, many pseudo-names on here. I don't think he is one to feel the need to do that---he gets listened to by his real name adequately!
Is there a fear that the election can be tilted to Brown by the number of blurbs on here, or what?

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Courthouse - LOL!

In your dreams! I don't think there is ANYTHING to tilt the election to Brown. He is just way too polarizing of a figure.

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Bonkers, you goof

Of course you don't see anyone with pseudo-names on here because you can't remember all the numerous pseudo-names you have used! Your "unique style" is recognizable from a thousand miles away, however.

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Brown vs. Smith

I predict this won't even be close. Do the math. Based on his performance as mayor and taking into consideration the results of his last campaign, PTC which is the county's largest city sure as heck is not going to vote for Brown. And we know that Fayette County and Fayetteville voters aren't going to vote for him because he's "Peachtree City". So where is his base of support? Outside of a few anti-Smith grumblers on this site, he really doesn't have a large base. Smith wins in a landslide. And I say that not as a Smith or Brown supporter. I don't have a dog in this fight. Just simple math.

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borntorun: Brown vs. Smith

I definitely agree with that rationale, but you never know with voters and Smith is pretty lackluster. Haddix beat an "establishment" candidate in Plunkett who had support from the heavy hitters, so you can't totally write off Brown, but I do see a pretty large margin for Smith tomorrow. Not as bad as the Logsdon and Ramsey victories over Brown, but a convincing majority.

Like you said, there is a group of people who will not vote for Brown due to the "PTC factor" and there are a lot of people in PTC also that won't vote for him ever. So, that just leads the highly dissatisfied around the County and that generally doesn't translate into a lot of votes. I don't see much of a Brown constituency in this county.

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NUK_1: Brown vs Smith

You are correct in that you never know what voters will do. However, as the old saying in politics goes, you don't vote FOR a candidate, you vote AGAINST the other candidate. And I don't see such a strong anti-Smith movement out there that voters county wide would throw him out for Brown like PTC had with the Plunkett/Haddix situation. Throw in the other reasons I stated and I see no way Brown even comes close.

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Doug, Others Are Voting For Brown and McCarty

Some of our folks received two anonymous phone calls from people who said that they are good friends of Jack Smith and that they can't vote for him.

It tells me a lot if a man's good friends can't vote for him.

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County employees voting for Steve Brown

It looks as though the county employees do not like Jack Krakeel's sweetheart contract with no performance reviews either. Three in the FCFD have told me they are voting for Steve Brown.

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County employee vote

Maybe you ought to ask all the PTC employees past and present who were there while he was Mayor if they are voting for Brown. I don't think Steve will manage to carry a majority of the vote in PTC, which means he's going to get beat soundly tomorrow because I don't see the rest of the county being Brown Country when it comes to voting.

People underestimate how much clout politically people like Randall have, and Ken Steele for that matter. Besides the usual Rotary/Chamber of Commerce group that truly HATES Brown and WILL show up to vote against him, I don't see how Brown is going to be able to get a majority or close to it. I don't think he could beat Horgan for that matter.

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Sweetheart deals

Interesting. Lots of people will vote for lots of different reasons, and that is certainly one of them.

County Attorney Scott Bennett's 11% pay raise in a year without a required performance review is another ...

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Chris P. Bacon- on your link

[other viewers- I apologize that I didn't nest this under Chris's post (way down below); it has nothing to do with the county commission race but responds to some thoughts Chris expressed]

Agree with author's point, "The current housing and credit crises has many, many underlying sources."

I contend that the housing loan shenanigans (even though they were legal at the time) and a public that was unable or unwilling to forecast & manage their personal financial affairs would not have been able to cause the widespread devastation had there not been markets for their foolishness- Freddie & Fannie being the two most prominant.

If originators could not have re-sold their junk, they'd stopped underwriting junk and imposed loan conditions that kept unqualified buyers from accepting obligations they neither understood (or hoped house values would spiral up forever) nor could handle.

My response would have included a very hefty appropriation to the Justice Dept to establish federal courts to expeditiously hear shareholder lawsuits against officers and boards of lenders, rating firms, and firms that bought junk as an "investment" for shareholders.

I would have felt a common sense of justice to see many of those imprudent board members & corporate officers giving interviews from behind bars with the likes of Bernie Madoff.

And not at country club prisons...

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Please read Fayette County voters

Well said Pips1414:

"You'd think Jack Smith would have at least tried to disspell false rumors about his version of the BOG ownership. It's just like the WF Bypass, neither Smith, Maxwell, or the county has anything to back up the road as being viable. They think that being commissioners already bestows upon them the privilege of simply rendering opinions that should be accepted as reasons. The challengers have gone to much more detail, and support their views. Before voting, go to the McCarty www.allenmccarty.net website, and the Steve Brown www.sb4faycom.com website to learn much more about the new candidates. I did, and I'm glad I did.

You can cast your poll vote by going to www.splostpoll.com.

Don't wait until November. Whomever wins next Tuesday will be unopposed".

GOD BLESS AMERICA AND GOD BLESS FAYETTE COUNTY!!

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Four More Days, And Still No Clarification By Smith

You'd think Jack Smith would have at least tried to disspell false rumors about his version of the BOG ownership. It's just like the WF Bypass, neither Smith, Maxwell, or the county has anything to back up the road as being viable. They think that being commissioners already bestows upon them the privilege of simply rendering opinions that should be accepted as reasons. The challengers have gone to much more detail, and support their views. Before voting, go to the McCarty www.allenmccarty.net website, and the steve brown www.sb4faycom.com website to learn much more about the new candidates. I did, and I'm glad I did.

You can cast your poll vote by going to www.splostpoll.com.

Don't wait until November. Whomever wins next Tuesday will be unopposed.

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pips1414- let's see what comes out in Saturday's paper

That's Commissioner Smith's last mass-communication opportunity in print to set the record straight (as he may see it).

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Here We Go Again

Jack Smith is absolutely surrounded by builders and developers. I've known for a long time that Smith and Westmoreland are friends. Westmoreland started out in the construction and real estate development business. If you don't believe me, check out his bio on wikipedia.

Based upon his profession, connections with the Bank, and experience with managing other counties' finances, Jack Smith gravitates toward money.

Speaking of money, until the banks and mortgage companies got greedy and destroyed the home business in the U.S., that was where the money could be found. We all know that. Jack, the Bank, and the developers are just sitting here waiting for it to rise from the ashes. I'm sure they are thinking that maybe Westmoreland just might be able to give it a push.

Please visit www. sb4faycom.com and www.allenmccarty.net and www.splostpoll.com

VOTE ON JULY 20TH. IT IS VITALLY IMPORTANT.

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Yep, Pips, that's an interesting question

With a $16k campaign war chest, Commissioner Smith certainly has the monetary wherewithal to publish why his assertions and the citations of Bank of GA President Pat Shepherd differ so greatly.

While he's at it, he can set the record straight on his free China trip and why we should have increased our sales tax over five years to pay off $55m of 4.1%-5% Justice Center bonds. If Smith was a dummy I could almost understand such actions. But he's a bright guy with lots of experience, so I'm awaiting his explanations even more.

Maybe they'll be in Saturday's edition of The Citizen.

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Citizen Bob
You just did not get it, Why do you think Mayor Haddix is lobbying for a SPLOST
Again, yes it would bring down debt reduction, but it would be by a sales tax.
Not your property tax. It can only hold out so long before the cost of services go up
And the need to raise property tax will have to happen. I personally would
Rather debt reduction be done by a 1Cent sales tax then to keep increasing my
Property tax. The Gov. of Georgia took away his donation to home owners
And that caused our tax to go up. Also if you look at it, a lot of people also come
Into Fayette County to buy goods, they are paying for the tax also. I am sure
You go out of the county and purchase good in another county that has a SPLOST
In palace and you are paying for that. You are the dummy and don’t understand
How come you did not complain about the 1cent sales tax that you where paying
The last 5 years, you are only complaining about how its being spent. The voters
In 2003 voted on what to do with it. Where were you when the commissioners
Where working on the SPLOT that recently lost.

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Save Fayette, on the SPLOST

Actually, I attended the 2009 County-cities SPLOST meeting, but found that it was closed to public comment. I also had an appointment with the County Administrator to learn what studies they'd done to estimate the % of out-of-county revenue that a SPLOST would net us (a marshal had counted license plates at the Pavillion once). I also conducted an informal poll of license plates at the Avenue parking lot.

I agree that it can be a useful alternative to increasing property taxes, but found no good estimates of how much revenue comes from out-of-county shoppers.

Other thoughts:
- I don't think I've ever ruled out all SPLOSTs all the time, but the 2009 county SPLOST seemed very untimely given the extended recession and the Community Organizer's intent to let tax rates take more consumer money out of their pockets starting Jan 1.

- I find it unreasonable to collect $55m to pay off the Justice Center's very low current bond rate of 4.1%; see the full table at sb4faycom.com/Vision.html#2.

- How badly DID we need it if Commissioner Smith's been able to match our county expenditures to declining revenue while simultaneously maintaining a $5m rainy day fund?

- I'd think business would prefer to operate in Fayette rather than adjacent higher-tax counties to offer customers the same product at a lower out-the-door cost.

- I should know more (but I don't) about county efforts to fill more of the vacant business properties. Viable businesses provide much more revenue than a small millage increase on neighborhoods of residential property.

Certainly worthy of discussion...

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SPEAR Road Guy Tells It Like It Is

Exactly! Absolutely and without a doubt! Thank you sooo much!

For more information PLEASE VISIT www.sb4faycom.com and www.allenmccarty.net and www.splostpoll.com

PLEASE VOTE ON JULY 20TH. IT IS VITALLY IMPORTANT. THE NOVEMBER GENERAL ELECTION WILL BE TOO LATE!

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That's Why Jack Smith Shouldn't Be Elected Citizen Bob

Smith has left a whole lot on the table. He's doing full page ads in the newspaper, high quality mailouts and automatic recorded phone messages. Now you would think with all those ways to communicate he would be able to refute 4 or 5 letters in the newspapers showing where he publicly lied about his developer bank.

He said only 2 board members on his bank were involved in development and land speculation. It turned out it was 6 and then found to be 8 out of the 11 board of directors were in development. You're also right about the bank president Pat Shepherd. His previous comments in the newspapers are in total conflict with Smith's. Now Shepherd is not running for political office so I'm more inclined to believe his account that the Bank of Georgia is heavily into loans in Fayette and Coweta. Why would Shepherd lie? I know why Smith would lie.

When Smith gave the Chinese company big tax breaks and took the gifts he was no better than Ted Kennedy or Nancy Pelosi.

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Or Sid and Nancy

Couldn't resist!!

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Teddy & Nancy? Now that's COLD!

I can understand offering tax incentives for a period of years for the longer term revenue and jobs- I don't fault Chairman Smith for doing that unless the amount & period were way out of wack with what competing counties were offering.

It just cheapens government, however, to accept any personal favors in conjunction with the deal. When that happens, one not only crosses an ethical "fire break", but erodes public confidence in government. And there's way too much of that already at the national level ...

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Where is Smith's Rebuttal?

If I had made a declaration in front of a roomful of people that the BOG did almost no business in Fayette County, and that there weren't developers on board, that sounds pretty good. But when articles start appearing that there are umpteen board members and/or stockholders involved in BOG and that its CEO admitted that it was of, for, and by developers with its business in Fayette and Coweta counties, I would try to defend my position. If the article is not true, Mr. Smith should refute it and prove it wrong. Has anyone seen him try to do that? I haven't.

Just today, Smith got the endorsement of U. S. Rep. Lynn Westmoreland, a former developer. I'll have to agree that Jack Smith would be the man for the job if everybody in Fayette County were developers. Take a look at the McCarty www.allenmccarty.net and Brown www.sb4faycom.com websites before casting your vote. Help us take back Fayette County. You'll be glad you did.

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All ye workers of iniquity, I never knew you!

It is extremely shameful that a Congressman, Lynn Westmoreland, would endorse Jack Smith who is clearly seeking "adoration" and "glory" for his personal conduct. When Jack looks in the mirror, I wonder what evil looks back!

Fayette County voters, "caveat emptor", Latin for "Let the buyer beware". You vote for Jack Smith you deserve whatever he dishes out to our county. I continue to seek God and am reminded what Jesus warns us in Luke 13:23-27, "Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity".

Many shall call on the name of the Lord, and He will not hear. Why, because He never knew you.

GOD BLESS AMERICA AND GOD BLESS FAYETTE COUNTY!!

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Just what we need

A sermon.

VOICE YOUR DISPLEASURE WITH OUR CHOICES HERE IN FAYETTE, WRITE IN BALD CYCLIST FOR COMMISSIONER!!!!!!!

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Courthouserules, Smith and Westmoreland

Here we go again, Courthouse. Lynn Westmoreland is just one more of Jack Smith's real estate developer friends. Check out Westmoreland's bio on wikipedia.

Believe me, Courthouse, if we aren't careful, all the vultures will start gathering overhead. We've already got the Bank, Jack, John Wieland, ARC Enterprises, John Austin, Stinchcomb, Walker, Rolader, Ed Wyatt, Green Development and Fayette Builders hovering over the West Bypass, just waiting for the West Fayetteville Bypass Coalition to stumble and fall so they can come in for the feast. Now, we have old Lynn Westmoreland trying to cast the final blow.

For more information, please visit www.sb4faycom.com and www.allenmccarty.net and www.splostpoll.com

PLEASE VOTE ON JULY 20TH. THIS IS A PRIMARY AND IF WE WAIT UNTIL NOVEMBER, WE WILL BE TOO LATE.

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Barlow: sermon of the hour!

Does this mean that Westmoreland and maybe Smith won't get by the Pearly Gates? (Strait Gate?). But Eric will?
I hope they all make it.

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Sermons eh,

I remember this blogger that used do incredibly boring sonnets. Gee, I wonder where he went? ☮

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cyclist

What has sermons got to do with boring sonnets? Usually if the meaning of sonnets isn't understood it means ignorance or disinterest!
I'll try to write a few just for you that maybe won't be boring---I used to know a little about that.
I don't know where "he" went as you asked. restaurants, beer, sand, redneks, and fishin bore me. Now it is particularly bad what with the oil balls and drippings! No one seems to be interested in that here however.

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All ye newbs

Didn't you just move here like a month ago? You seem extremely quick to make major determinations of any and everyone in or around Fayette County and it's no mystery as to why you had failure with trying to establish "Promise Keepers" groups with this attitude. Lighten up, Francis.

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Nuk & Lighten Up

I'll be more specific: Lighten up on the "Thumpin"--Don't doubt your sincerity but most folks don't want that shoved down their throats all the time--would seem that you would've learned that in your previous experience.

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Nuk & Lighten Up

I'll be more specific--Lighten Up On The "Thumpin"-don't question your sincerity, but most folks don't want that shoved down their throats time after time.

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Congressman Westmoreland and Endorsements

If he was smart,he would know that his stuff is pretty weak in parts of the county and endorsements won't help him in the next election, especially if even a marginally qualified candidate emerges and acts serious.

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Voter

I agree completely. You have summed it up nicely.

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We need a conservative on the county commission

Voter is dead on. Smith and Maxwell have done a great job of wasting our money and asking for more. It's time to get some people in who respect us and won't waste our tax dollars.

The economy is not getting any better and we are going to be hurting a lot more. We had better get someone who cares.

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smith untruthful

I have mentioned that we need smart, honest people to represent the people. Unless you are ignorant or clueless, there is a conflict of interest that Mr. Smith has with his job as Commissioner. He wants us to believe that it does not exist. That is pretty poor judgement on his part. Give me candidates that have principles and values and understand right from wrong. I strongly support McCarty, Brown and Dodd, the common sense conservatives. Vote for honesty in government.

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Smith is a classic PTC good old boy and we don't need him

Ain't it amazing that Jack Smith's ad in the paper features support from the Peachtree City mafia members like Harold Logsdon, Bob Lenox and Fred Brown. All three of them support the West Fayetteville Bypass because of their developer connections.

What is Jack Smith doing for the people of Fayette County you ask? Well he lied to us and voted in favor of having bus routes from Riverdale and Clayton County barreling into our county. He tried to increase our sales tax by $135 million for his pet projects. He's cramming the West Fayetteville Bypass down our throats. He when on a fabulous trip to Asia after giving a Chinese corporation $5 million in tax breaks (we weren't invited). He lied about his developer bank as Mrs. Allen points out in this letter.

The irony is Smith thinks we ought to be grateful for all he's doing.

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Jack Smith, " GOES ALONG, TO GET ALONG"

Spear is absolutely right. Jack Smith is the king of "Goes along to get along." He said it himself. He didn't want mass transit in Fayette County but he repeatedly voted in favor of it. As he said at the Candidate Forum, "I was just one voice/vote." Jack Smith just "GOES ALONG TO GET ALONG."

Jack Smith didn't say a word against Horgan's pot smoking and breaking the law actions. Jack Smith just "GOES ALONG TO GET ALONG."

The developers are salivating over the West Fayetteville Bypass. Jack Smith sits on the Board of the developer's bank and he just "GOES ALONG TO GET ALONG' with the developers.

MARTA wants to expand into Fayette County. Jack Smith sits on the Board of the Regional Transportation committee and since in his words he is only "once voice," Jack just "GOES ALONG TO GET ALONG" with the Regional Transportation Board.

Steve Brown has proven that he will FIGHT for Fayette County. He will never ever "Go along to get along."

Allen McCarty truly cares about what happens to this county and her citizens. He will never ever "Go along to get along."

FOR MORE DOCUMENTED INFORMATION ON THE ISSUES, PLEASE VISIT www.sb4faycom.com and www.allenmccarty.net

VOTE FAYETTE COUNTY! VOTE! This Primary Election is vitally important. That means we have to vote on or before JULY 20TH. DON'T WAIT FOR THE NOVEMBER GENERAL ELECTION. IF WE WAIT UNTIL THEN, IT WILL BE TOO LATE! ADVANCE VOTING BEGAN ON JULY 12TH - JULY 16TH AT THE TYRONE AND PEACHTREE CITY LIBRARIES FROM 8:00 AM - 5:00 PM DAILY. YOU STILL HAVE TIME TO AVOID THE CROWDS.

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Smith's Untruthful About Bank Ties

Smith is involved in too many companies and a development bank to be objective about the bypass which everybody knows will never relieve congestion in Fayetteville. He's still claiming the people voted for it, even though it was totally concealed on the 2003 SPLOST ballot.

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You are so right. I don't know how much more we can try to swallow from Jack Smith. I have just about choked to death on his lies about the bank, the Bypass, the SPLOST, mass transit and the buses. July 20th can't get here soon enough for me.

VOTE FAYETT COUNTY, VOTE. JULY 20TH IS THE DAY WE NEED TO VOTE. NOVEMBER WILL BE TOO LATE.

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The Bank Deal Alone Should Mean A Vote For Brown

This lady from Fayetteville nailed it. It's obvious Jack Smith lied about "2 out of the 11" of his fellow developer bank board members having development ties.

Really now, if Smith is going to lie this bad on something this important, we don't need to vote for him.

This is like when he said he wouldn't for the mass transit and he did it all three times!!! You can't trust Smith. He's just lied on too many of the issues.

He doesn't deserve our votes.

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Citizen Bob and Public Servants

If there is one thing this election has taught me, it is to observe the difference between a politician and a true statesman or elected public servant. The difference is what comes out of their mouths. A true statesman or public servant tells us facts. A politician makes up the answers as he goes along, so all we get from a politician is fiction.

Rectify that situation on July 20th. VOTE!

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lifeinptc...

Over the years I've observed a distinct difference between politicians and elected public servants. I believe professional politicians have what amounts to a personality disorder- always needing to at the front of every line, demanding special treatment, and constantly needing their egos stroked.

We occasionally run across elected public servants, however, who you seldom hear much about because they're constantly working too hard for their constituents (instead of grabbing headlines or avoiding headlines for the messes they're ensnarled in). Elected public servants are fulfilled through their sacrifice for, and satisfaction from, accomplishing worthy deeds for the greater good.

Politicians are in all parties, of every race & religion. Fortunately, so are elected public servants. My 2c worth ...

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Lifeinptc It's About The Jack Smith's Personal Motives

I agree with you about the beating one can take as a politician. Look at Steve Brown. The good old boys beat on him continuously. But with Jack Smith you get something more. He got elected and then jumped on the developer bank board. The conflict there is obvious. Smith gave that Chinese company huge tax breaks and then gets a wonderful free international vacation from them. He swore to us he'd oppose mass transit and lied.

I'm going to be honest and say Jack Smith is no better than those lying clowns we have in congress. When you act the way Smith has people are going to get angry. You can't lie and cheat people for long until they give you the boot.

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Not so sure there, Spear Road Guy

Chris Dodd of Connecticut has been in office since 1974 and is the Senate poster child for financial disaster.

His House counterpart, Barney Frank, has been in office since 1982. Both were in the legislative branch's most powerful positions to identify financial shenanigans and expose and/or stop them. Neither did, and have gone on to pass reform regulation this week that excludes the two most significant disaster enablers, Fannie & Freddie. The inmates are running the asylum.

And they're still in office pointing fingers in every direction except at themselves. Pathetic.

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BOB: wonder of wonders

To blame a couple of old democrats for the Wall Street collapse is sure to go down in the history books as "correct!" Right!
There were 98 other Senators and 437 Representatives who could have also brought it up---some did by voice anyway. Nobody cared at that time----times were good.
You need to see who is regulated and why and why Fanny and Freddy are not!
I'm not going to do it here---no one cares in Fayette.

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Courthouserules: the big difference...

... between the all the other senators & representatives and Frank and Dodd is that Frank & Dodd were respective Chairmen of the House & Senate Banking and Finance committees, so had ultimate responsibility to consider & act on other members' concerns or not. And to ensure adequate measures were in place, reviewed, and action taken when reality strayed too far from those measures.

Leadership has its responsibilities, and they abrogated theirs. Everyone's paying the price.

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BOB

At last someone on the conservative side (you) admit that action of regulation was needed---even if you did try to pin it on the other party!
Maybe an honest man has happened and is just slightly confused as to whom to blame. We have to learn to make those changes in time not to have anyone to blame!
Surely you won't listen to Sarah Palin or Newt Gingrich? Total catastrophe that would be without doubt. Even the Mormon fellow who ran last time is careful.

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"the two most significant disaster enablers"?

Referring to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as "the two most significant disaster enablers" is, in my opinion, a statement born of ignorance.

There is a good article deconstructing the "blame it all on Fannie & Freddie & the CRA" mythology HERE. It explains the "big picture" of the current financial crisis.

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Chris P. Bacon; I goofed

... and responded, but fat fingered the keys and my response is way up towards the top of this thread.

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Palin has decided to run this year instead of 2013 1/2! That way she can have the big wedding in the White House!
Anyway, after some money is made and the kid's name is Johnston, they will quietly divorce.

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Who would want to run for any public office?

I get mad at myself for reading the blogs. So many of the people here are so hateful and mean spirited; I don't know how they live with themselves. Step away from the computer and politics and you may realize how great life is and how good people can be.

Do you feel good about yourself when you go back and read what you've written? I'm not talking about this woman or the politician she's speaking of. It's just another example of how hateful politics and the people who immerse themselves into it can be. It cannot be healthy for you to harbor such hatred.

Politicians; what in the world would motivate you to subject yourself to this. You never hear anyone praising politicians. For any one person who may be out there praising a politicians work there will be 99 more cursing them, there families and anyone who ever rode in an elevator with them. Those who think that becoming an elected official would be an ego trip are not paying attention to what actually happens once someone is elected. I wouldn't do it. People don't appreciate it. The press considers you a target the minute your name hits the ballot, and yet that same press is the first to report voter apathy at the polls.

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lifeinptc: who, indeed?

What we need are "public servants" who are not politicians!
They serve their one term and go home.
Notice the word "serve." please.
The right kind of public servant doesn't need or want praise or recognition.
You should be glad that some run off the ones who do not fit this category!

It can all be resolved with one-term service. The right kind of people would then run for the office or volunteer service. For instance, Mayors should never be paid except for expenses.

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lifeinptc, No Job?

Life, Candidate Jack Smith is a CPA. Candidate Eric Maxwell is an attorney. Candidates Brown and McCarty bring with them a wealth of managerial experience from private enterprise. Mr. McCarty is partially retired and now works as a part-time consultant in the broadcasting business. Candidate Steve Brown is a freelance writer, and very active in community affairs.

Mr. McCarty has said that because he is partially retired, this will make it possible for him to be our hands-on commissioner full time. I think that is excellent, because he will be more devoted time-wise and attention-wise to tend to the needs of the county without being constantly distracted by other obligations. He will, of course, from time to time take consulting jobs but the county's business will be his priority, and have his full attention.

Mr. Brown's situation is similar, in that he will be able to schedule his workload around the county's business. He holds a degree in journalism management from the Grady College of Journalism at the University of Georgia. Mr. Brown has also had a great deal of experience as an elected official when he was mayor of Peachtree City, and has demonstrated successful managerial experience in managing several general and specialty dental facilities within a large corporate practice.

However, when it comes to Mr. Smith's involvement with county matters, the people will have to share his time with the accounting firm he owns as well as his time on the Board of Directors of the Bank of Georgia, and his position on the Board of Directors at Griffin Tech. According to the Georgia Secretary of State, Mr. Smith also has several other interests listed to his name. Those companies are Ewing Consulting Services, Inc., Software Business Products Corp., Rotary Club of Fayetteville, Inc., SC&A Wealthcare Advisors, LTS, and the Selwyn Walker Foundation, Inc. Many people feel that Mr. Smith's position on the Board Of Directors of the Bank of Georgia is a conflict of interest, in that the Bank of Georgia is heavily involved with loans to builders and developers in Fayette and Coweta counties. In his position as Commissioner of Fayette County, he is involved with buying real estate for the county, zoning and rezoning real estate in the county as well as the implementation of infrastructure for Fayette County. With all his responsibilities, it would appear that he would have only minimal time to fully devote himself to county issues.

Mr. Maxwell has his own law firm and has also applied for a judgeship position with Governor Purdue. I am sure that his position as an attorney would have to put some constraints on his time with his position as a county commissioner. If he is successful in becoming a Judge, he would probably have no choice but to resign his position on the County Board of Commissioners.

Bearing no malice, candidates Smith and Maxwell are both in professions known for finding "loopholes"supporting positions they might take. Candidates Brown and McCarty believe that they are more in touch with public opinion, which they feel is not being supported by the incumbents on several specific issues. Brown and McCarty are not involved with builders and developers, who would be the only beneficiaries of the West Fayetteville Bypass. Smith and Maxwell are trying to stretch the regulations to disallow diverting bypass funding to other more needed projects.

For further information on Candidates Brown and McCarty, please visit their websites. Mr. Brown's website can be found at www.sb4faycom.com and Mr. McCarty's website canbe found at www.allenmccarty.net

Above all else, please vote on or before July 20, 2010. Advance voting began on July 12th -July 16th at the Tyrone and Peachtree City Libraries from 8:00 AM-5:00 PM daily. If you miss the advance voting, please mark it on your calendar to vote in the July 20th, 2010 Primary Election. July 20th is when our new commissioners will be elected. PLEASE VOTE!

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Agree with Mayors not being paid

If what I read is true one of the County Commission candidates has no job. We certainly don't need candidates who are running because they can't find a job in the private sector. We need qualified people with sincere intentions which are not self-serving.

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Doug, Posting The Real Truth

Thanks, Doug, for posting the real truth about the developers on the Board of Directors with the Bank of Georgia. I don't think the truth can be brought to light often enough.

Voters, please go to the polls and vote for the truth this time around. Please don't let the establishment incumbent commissioners win again and take our county down the road to ruin. Please vote in the interest of all homeowners in Fayette County. A vote for Jack Smith and Eric Maxwell is a vote for the developers and Mass Transit in Fayette County.

Advance voting began on July 12 and runs through July16 at the Tyrone and Peachtree City Libraries from 8:00 AM-5:00 PM daily. If you miss those dates, it is imperative that you vote on July 20th. The July 20th Primary is the determining factor in this year's election. Waiting until the General Election in November is too late! Please exercise your right to Vote on July 20th or before.

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J. Smith's lying worse than you think on developer bank

It's worse than you think. This came from one of the letters the editor did not have room to print.

Upon further inspection of the Bank of Georgia’s Board, she found:

1. Pat Shepherd – BOG president was on the board of sales and marketing of the Mid-West Georgia Homebuilders Association.

2. Donnie H. Russell – owner and president of manufactured housing sales company Parham Industries, Inc., director and part owner of manufactured home production company Signal Homes. According to the Ga. Secretary of State, Donnie H. Russell is listed with four companies to his name: Buddy’s Homes, Inc., Buddy’s Trailer Sales of Albany, Inc, Parham Industries, Inc., and WSSR, LTD.

3. Charles R. Ogletree – (no information provided on the holding company’s website). However, I found that Charles R. (Chuck) Ogletree is the president and founder of South-Tree Enterprises, Inc. in Tyrone, Ga. According to the South-Tree Enterprises website, “South-Tree Enterprises is a full-service commercial real estate firm engaged in the development and marketing of retail, office, industrial and mixed-use properties.” Also, according to the South-Tree Enterprises, Inc. website they built the Bank of Ga. in Fairburn, Newnan, Sharpsburg, Tyrone and Fayetteville. According to the Ga. Secretary of State, Charles R. Ogletree has two corporations listed in his name: South-Tree Enterprises, Inc., and Southtree Development, Inc.

4. Malcolm R. Godwin – served in the financial industry since 1977 at Wachovia Bank, Peachtree National Bank, Fayette County Bank, and at Bank of Georgia as executive vice president. According to the Ga. Secretary of State, Malcolm R. Godwin has one company listed under his name: Tilwin Properties, Inc. 114 Middleton Dr., Peachtree City, Ga. They are listed as “Operators of Non-Residential Buildings.

5. Arlie C. Aukerman – former chairman and president of construction firm A.C. Aukerman and former Fayette County Bank director.

6. Thomas G. Sellmer – former owner of real estate management and investment company Sellmer Property Management and former vice president of Southern Screen & Embroidery, Inc. According to the Ga. Secretary of State, Thomas G. Sellmer has listed to his name: McIntosh Properties, LTD. and Peachtree City Sports, Inc.

7. Vincent M. Rossetti – President of Ravin Homes, Inc., manager of real estate and office management firm MiRome, LLC., former president of Mid-West Ga. Homebuilders Assoc.

8. William Robert Hancock, Jr. – partner in Glover & Davis law firm in Newnan, partner in real estate firm F&H Investment, former advisory board member of First Union National Bank, former chairman of Newnan Development Authority. According to the Ga. Secretary of State, William Robert Hancock, Jr. has listed in his name: P-210 Enterprises, Inc., and WR Hancock, Inc.

9. Jack R. Smith (last but not least because of his direct association with the above) – Fayette County Commission Chairman and a Peachtree City certified public accountant. According to the Ga. Secretary of State, Jack Smith has listed to his name: Ewing Consulting Services, Inc., Smith, Conley & Assoc., Software Business Products Corp., Rotary Club of Fayetteville, Inc., SC&A Wealthcare Advisors, LTS, and the Selwyn Walker Foundation, Inc.

Therefore, nine of the 11 members of the board of directors of the Bank of Georgia have been and/or are currently involved with the construction, real estate, real estate development, or real estate management business.

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You've Got The Wrong Bank Pips 1414

It's Bank of Georgia. You said Bank of America.

It would've taken Jack Smith and friends a lot longer to run the Bank of America in the ground than the short period of time it took with the Bank of Georgia.

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The Whole Shebang is Detailed in Another Article In This Edition

If you ever had any doubts about the Bank of America owners, check out the fourth Letter To The Editor that didn't make earlier editions. You'll find it in this edition in minute detail.

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I agree with johenry

Yes, Mrs. Allen, I also thank you more than you will ever know. You've done this community a great service.

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Never been a better year to trash the incumbents in Fayette

We've had judges doing unspeakable things and a school board that's incompetent. Jack Smith and Eric Maxwell are doing everyone's bidding but the people that elected them.

There is word going around that Jack Smith defrauded his former business partner Alan Barber. They said Barber sued Smith. Does anybody know anything about this?