PTC budget workshops will involve some hard choices

The first round of Peachtree City’s budget, as proposed by city staff, will be discussed by the City Council in a workshop meeting Monday night.

The meeting will be at 6:30 p.m. in council chambers at City Hall June 17, with the possibility of a second workshop on Tuesday, June 18 at an undetermined time.

The budget details were not available by press time Tuesday. One of the biggest matters to be addressed is the funding of street and cart path repair and repaving, as that $2 million has been removed from the city’s general fund budget for the past six years, thanks to revenues from the countywide transportation sales tax. Those funds have now been exhausted and the city is facing a need to find additional funding to keep up with street and cart path repaving.

The city is repaving a large portion of Crosstown Road this summer and the project will spend the city’s remaining funds from the sales tax. The city also had to spend an additional $305,000 from the city reserves for the project, which will extend from Ga. Highway 74 to Robinson Road.

Crosstown is the city’s worst-rated road in terms of quality of the pavement and also is a key part of the city’s transportation network because it connects Hwy. 74 south to Braelinn Village and Peachtree Parkway.

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Mr. Haddix - A question

Could you point me to the space on this blog where all of your supporters have posted?

One other question,

When will we see those supporters come out in the press for you? Names would be an interesting thing to see along with their "stature" in the community.

Still waiting your response I remain,

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Peachtree City Soap Opera

Having been out of town for the past week, it seems that our mayor continues to act as mayoral as a hemorrhoid. Bantering back and forth with bloggers just to get the last word(his delusional version of history), embarrassing the city with his incessant "I'm right, you're wrong" in the eyes of potential businesses we have a chance to gain, and the occasional taking of credit for something positive that took place only because he was uninvolved while the city continues it's decline over the past three plus years. Heck, I'll go out on a limb and opine that even Doug Sturbaum would refuse to endorse our mayor's reelection.
At least with George, Harold or Vanessa we can have a positive thinking adult at the helm.

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Mike King & Peachtree City Soap Opera

Well stated.

There is something seriously wrong...and nothing will change unless we have a new mayor.

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There's gonna be a new mayor, Larry. That's certain.

What we also need is a new President, 18 new Republican Senators and some people in Washington who understand the word "illegal" in the term Illegal immigrants. Digressing again, I am.

As the garden gnome is replaced, the thought has to go to Kimmy and Vanessa and their replacements. George seems like a fighter, so his post may be up as well. Wow! 4 out of 5 could be replaced on council. What a wonderful opportunity. Let's get a black person up there so we don't get forced into district voting by the racists at NAACP. David's Mom - step up. 71 is not too old for 2 city council meetings every month. Plus, you are allowed to drink - part time.

Can you imagine district voting in a city of this size? The Kedron group will rally behind the pool and its bubble and protest the takeover of KFC by the evil NY bank, the Braelinn crowd will want more signs for the Information Center and Dog Park and to widen Crosstown Road, Glenloch groupies will insist that "their" lake be dredged and a new island created, the Wilkesmore gang will insist upon a bypass for that awful traffic, somebody will suggest overlay tax districts so each can achieve their goals. The new mayor (who was elected from one of these districts) will have to oversee all this. DOES THAT GIVE YOU ALL A CLUE ABOUT HOW STUPID DISTRICT VOTING IS-- YOU MORONS.

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Don,

I'm interested in buying anything that makes sense. The point I made is simply this; I was not interested in buying the "tennis center" I did not approach the city...the city approached me. I did not want the "tennis center", I was asked by the city if I had any interest in buying the "tennis center" which is where my inquired e-mail comes into the picture. Again, I'm interested in any deal that makes sense. After I briefly consulted with the city to what the possible options of the property may be I discontinued any conversation. The whole process was a couple of e-mails and a five minute conversation.

If you look at your prior blogs you state that I tried to buy the "tennis center" my actions clearly state that I had no interest in negotiating the purchase of the tennis center. PERIOD! If I was interested in buying the "tennis center" I would have had ongoing negotiations to do so. There is a big difference in being interested in what is possible and being interested in actually owning something. Thes are two completely different issues. RWM agreed with my position over a year on this very issue. We've been through this before.

The city approached me and I was interested to as what the city had to say about the tennis center. That was the end of it.

You've always continued that I tried to buy the "tennis center" I said I did not. Where is the LOI (Letter of Intent) where is the LOU (Letter of Understanding). Your simple inability to understand the mechanics and know how business deals (a valid business deal) is put together seems to be a major handicap to you.

Mr. Mayor, you have said in the past that I tried to buy the "tennis center" which is 100% false. I never made any attempt to do so.

I have stayed off these blogs and have never really had a "back & forth" with you until today. Now I truly understand the city's frustration with you. I ran one campaign for office...I put my name in a hat (which was not an election) to fill a short term void because a council member moved from the area...And I never ran a campaign in 2009 as I immediately removed myself from the race after a potential public/private deal I was negotiating with the city simply because it would have been a conflict of interest. It was a mistake that my name was on the 2009 ballot as I gave fair for it to be removed. I still received, according to you almost 18% of the vote without going to one debate, forum, or running a campaign. Only someone like you can twist something so obvious into something that it is absolutely not.

January cannot get here soon enough.

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Haddix: Actually Dar

The links and email in my post disprove you.

You interviewed for Post 1 in 2007 then ran for Post 2 in the election and lost. I provided a link to the official results. I won Post 1, the one we both interviewed for to finish the term ending December 31, 2007.

For the 2007 election you declared for Post 2, paid your qualifying fee and debated at every debate. I was there debating as well. You got 17.5% of the vote.

In 2009 you declared, paid your qualifying fee and then withdrew after the ballots were printed. You did not immediately remove yourself. That is why you were on the ballot. You got 6%

You ran 3 times, were on the ballot three times, lost twice and withdrew once. That is a matter of record.

And you have blogged talking about the election. After awhile I decided it was time to respond.

I am not the one struggling with facts here. I have twisted nothing. You have. Calling the 2007 election results the 2009 results is most assuredly misrepresentation of the facts by you.

I have proven my case.

Make the check out to the City of Peachtree City.

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Haddix: Budget

Larry, as always you cannot tell the truth. I never did a just .5 proposal.

If you think tax, debt and spend are the answers, that is your prerogative. Most people do not.

The Budget is not currently in good shape. This year, even after transferring expenditures from to Stormwater and over doubling the fee money is still being taken out of the Reserve and more tax increases, including SPLOST, are proposed for the future.

Imker has been a major source of our Budget woes. Fleisch and Learnard have followed his lead all the way. Remember, this is the guy who said, "Any idiot can balance a Budget with tax increases and using the Reserve."

Dar, Doug and I wanted to go public/private on Kedron, but Logsdon, Plunkett and Boone said no. We didn't want to replace the Bubble, but Fleisch, Learnard and Imker said yes. Indeed, only around 2% of PTC residents use the Bubble.

I also wanted to see the Tennis Center sold with deed restrictions, as you very well know.

The public/private I did get in place saves us over $200K a year. Problem is we are still spending way too much on maintenance every years.

You have made it very clear you support taxes, building more retail etc. What we need is good paying jobs.

lexveritas, Dar ran three times already and I do not believer every got more than 15%. He is not an answer.

We need to stop repeating history. As I have been saying all along, we need a Comprehensive Strategic Plan to prioritize our services, actually bring them in line with what the citizens want and then move forward.

That has not happened because the majority remains dedicated to getting what they want. This Council it is all four Councilmembers.

Our Budget will remain a problem until Council majorities stop wanting to satisfy the wants of every one in the majority.

There are already changes clearly supported in the OnePTC and Needs Survey that will bring down expenses and increase services. Digging in there will be more.

More spending does not always mean more or better service. I have already proven that with over a million a years in savings.

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Don, what are you talking

about. "lexveritas, Dar ran three times already and I do not believer every got more than 15%. He is not an answer." I've only run for office once...there was six people who ran for mayor that year. Basically five of us (with all similar views) against Steve Brown (the incumbent mayor). I finished behind Logsdon out of the five and only slightly behind Steve Brown. If you spend the time to go back and reveiw my articles and platform you will soon find out that most of my positions were later proved to be valid.

I've always said there needs to be a permanent structure over the pool. I guess that is where I'm different, is that I would not let one resident outside of PTC use the pool. When, in the past, the city has asked the county for help regarding the pool, the county's position has always been "we didn't tell you to build a pool". Okay fine...then only PTC residents can use it. I still say close the pool down. Our new slogan should be "Peachtree City, Stuck in the 80's".

Good paying jobs are created by very successful companies who want to move their corporations or facility to a specific area (city). As long as we maintain the bar at the low level we seem to be so comfortable with, nothing will change. I've always and will always say, if you want something nice you have to pay for it. Cutting corners always cost in the long run...the library is a good example. For many, many, years this city has stepped over a dollar to pick up a nickle. Our main intersection, the main entrance to our city looks like something out of the 60's (poles and wires everywhere). That intersection should look like Augusta National. Presentation is everything, and I'm sorry but we don't have it.

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The Mayor is clueless

But everyone but him knows that.

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Haddix: Dar - History

Again you try to change history, like not being interested in buying the Tennis Center at one time when you were.

Yes, you said permanent structure, which is not the Bubble. We talked about that, remember?

You admit to running for Mayor against Steve Brown. That is one.

Then, how about your 2007 run for Post 2?

http://www .fayettecountyga.gov/elections/archives/110607%20ELECTION%20SUMMARY%20REPORT.pdf

Finally, how about your run for Post 1 in 2009?

http:// archive.thecitizen.com/node/39803

That is 3 times, Dar, not just 1.

The library has been a financial pain, just like the PD, etc. where corners were cut. I grew up in the construction business and know that is a sure road to problems.

As far as our entrance ways to the city, there is a thing called zoning. You need to study court rulings, etc. to see the limits on control we can exercise.

I am a businessman also. I know the answer to everything is not spending more. Planning and prioritization are musts. We have been sadly lacking in both arenas,thus why I have been pushing a Comprehensive Strategic Plan, a city's version of a business plan.

That is 3 times, Dar.

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I'll play along one more round

Don, get your facts straight...the 2nd time you refer to was not an election it was to fill a vacate post...the then mayor and remaining council decided to whom would fill that void. The third time you refer to I dropped out of the race immediately simply because of a conflict of interest regarding Kedron (a group of us set forth a proposal to give the city $3,000,000 but the inability for those of you in power to comprehend the dynamics of the deal, as any reasonable business person would, quickly lead to it's demise) My name was left on the ballot by mistake. I've activily campaigned in only one election...PERIOD!

Regarding the entrance to the city...I understand zoning just fine...the problem simply is, you have no comprehension of what it should look like or more importantly what I'm even talking about.

Last of all....Get your facts straight Don...I have never tried or have ever been remotely interested in buying the tennis center. Your so sure of your facts...you prove that I made an offer to buy the Tennis Center and I will give the city the $12,000 you cost the taxpayer(s) for legal fees. If you can't prove it you have to come up with the $12,000 to pay the city back your legal fees. Since you are a businessman, as you claim, you should have that kind of cash just lying around. If I made an offer to buy the tennis center it would be in writing somewhere...so let's see it. So, what say you Don?

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Haddix: My Facts are Straight

My facts are straight, Dar.

In 2007 Judy Rutherford resigned from Post 1. Both of us interviewed and Mike Harman was selected. I ran against him in November and won.

You ran for Post 2, not Post 1, in the election, and lost the Doug Sturbaum, who won in the runoff with Mike King. Just open the link already given and read:
Election Summary Report
Fayette County
State of Georgia General Municipal Election
November 6th, 2007
Summary For Jurisdiction Wide, All Counters, All Races
Official and Complete
MARK HOLLUMS 510 16.98%
MICHAEL L. KING 1027 34.19%
DOUG STURBAUM 934 31.09%
DAR THOMPSON 524 17.44%
Write-in Votes 9 0.30%

The entrance comment is double talk.

As for the Tennis Center, you keep trying to walk away from that one. Here is your email to the City:

From: Dar Thompson [mailto:dart@worldgymfayette.com]
Sent: Thu 7/3/2008 12:25 PM
To: Bernard McMullen; psalvatore@peachtree-city.org
Cc: Cyndi Plunkett; Don Haddix; Doug Sturbaum; Harold Logsdon; Steve Boone
Subject: purchase -tennis center

certain council members and some city officials have asked me if i had an interest in purchasing the tennis center.

the answer is yes.

can you please provide me with all loan amounts owed on facility and current monthly expenses. I would also, need to know what the city's asking price for this facility.

please fwd info as soon as possible as i would like to move forward on this project as soon as possible.

thanks,

dar

My facts are straight, Dar. Please make the check out to the City of Peachtree City.

As for my costing the city, no. Talk to those who pursued illegal actions and lost every time, Councilmembers Dienhart, Fleisch, Learnard and Imker.

What say you, Dar?

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Don

I'm interested in buying anything that makes sense. The point I made is simply this; I was not interested in buying the "tennis center" I did not approach the city...the city approached me. I did not want the "tennis center", I was asked by the city if I had any interest in buying the "tennis center" which is where my inquired e-mail comes into the picture. Again, I'm interested in any deal that makes sense. After I briefly consulted with the city to what the possible options of the property may be I discontinued any conversation. The whole process was a couple of e-mails and a five minute conversation.

If you look at your prior blogs you state that I tried to buy the "tennis center" my actions clearly state that I had no interest in negotiating the purchase of the tennis center. PERIOD! If I was interested in buying the "tennis center" I would have had ongoing negotiations to do so. There is a big difference in being interested in what is possible and being interested in actually owning something are completely two different issues. RWM agreed with my position over a year on this very issue.

The city approached me and I was interested to as what the city had to say about the tennis center. That was the end of it.

You've always continued that I tried to buy the "tennis center" I said I did not. Where is the LOI (Letter of Intent) where is the LOU (Letter of Understanding). Your simple inability to understand the mechanics and know how business deals (a valid business deal) is put together seems to be a major handicap to you.

Mr. Mayor, you have said in the past that I tried to buy the "tennis center" which is 100% false. I never made any attempt to do so.

I have stayed off these blogs and have never really had a "back & forth" with you until today. Now I truly understand the city's frustration with you. I ran one campaign for office...I put my name in a hat (which was not an election) to fill a short term void because a council member moved from the area...And I never ran a campaign in 2009 as I immediately removed myself from the race after a potential public/private deal I was negotiating with the city could have cause a conflict of interest. It was a mistake that my name was on the ballot as fair notice was given for it to be removed and I still received, according to you almost 18% of the vote without going to one debate, forum, or running a campaign. Only someone like you can twist something so obvious into something that it is absolutely not.

January cannot get here soon enough.

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Haddix: See my other Response

Dar, you double posted in two different places. No reason for me to do so as well.

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Haddix: Morgan. You still gonna post after Harold is Mayor?

I hope you and pumpkin know that you are being replaced. Harold is the obvious front-runner, but George has a chance as well. You are not going to be in the runoff and that's a fact. ou are done. Get it?

So, my question - after you get booted out of office - which you deserve for 12,000 and more reasons, will you still blog on here and do revisionist history? Just asking.

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Dar Thompson : Haddix

Mr. Thompson:
Don't just love having "lies" told about you.
And you haven't even declared whether you are running for mayor or not!

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Haddix: Again, no Lies Sussberg

Again you are wrong on facts. I have not lied.

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Mr. Haddix - It's difficult

to defend one's honor when it has been lost by one's own actions.

When the glass is broken, there's no putting it back Mr. Haddix.

I for one would never make the mistake of introducing you as "our honorable mayor".

Now, you just run off an use our money to try and get yourself re-elected.

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Haddix on Haddix

You win, I surrender!

The more you post the worse it gets....

Good luck fighting with Mr. Thompson over this one. I guess you're going set him straight on his own history!

You need to take him up on that bet! Think about, if he lied, PTC can use that money. This is definately a Budget Workshop agenda item.

Meanwhile, best of luck in your re-election bid. I'm dropping out of your gibberish talking circle jerk, no more! Frankly I can't watch this anymore.....I really don't need to prove my point about you, you prove your own point.

See you at the debates and of course now watching Dar's $12,000 bet. We will see whose telling the truth. Bet or no bet?

BYE
Unless, of course, you want to keep this going, post back

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Don Haddix

So, now you are saying that 4 years ago you and Doug never proposed or floated a budget increase? Ok, thats funny! You floated it at your DAPTC meeting 4 years ago where you also tried to raise the city budget to fund DAPTC by having Mike H, the DAPTC chair, propose a $200,000 DAPTC budget. Doug presented the milage increase lol.

Thats how you do it...you set up others to present and when it fails you can stay clear of the stink, but that trick doesn't work anymore Donny.

As for managing the budget,in 6 years you have been in office, 4 as mayor and 2 as a council member not once have you submitted or offer to submit a balanced budget, just rambling BS on the blogs.

George Dienhart submitted and proposed 2 balanced budgets.... You, nothing but BS!

You will say anything to get re-elected, anything.

As for being in favor of taxes...oh please, I want a balanced budget just like every other PTC citizen and like other citizens we know you never never produced one.

So, no more rants about everyone else on the blogs you had your chance to step up and you didn't, you will be defeated in November and others will be in charge.

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Haddix: Larry Sussberg

Read again. I said no .5 increase ONLY was proposed. The proposal was far more extensive.

Never proposed a $200K DAPC budget either. You cannot even get the name correct, it is DAPC, not DAPTC. Nor the chairman's name. Mike H is WASA. Todd Strictland was the last DAPC chair with Mark Hollums prior.

George Dienhart has never proposed a balanced budget. He proposed band aids last year. Kicking the can down the road is not balanced, it is delay.

Nor has he even done 2 budgets yet. Last year was his first.

I am not going to carry on an argument with you. Just wanted to show what you are saying is not factual.

What is next, falsely using someone else's identity again to attack me?

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Don Haddix

Poor Don

Reality is you are truly a lying dishonest political hack.
Sadly, you have lied about so many things over the past 4 years as mayor that most in town and in the county know you for being a liar.

Was it worth it?

When your photo goes on the wall where council meeting are held, you will be remembered as the mayor who lied a lot, took credit for other's people work, took $12,000 of the taxpayers' money and the public trust.

Sad.

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Au contrere, Larry. No photo. Ain't happening.

The precedent has been set by none other than Steve Brown when he was somehow elected mayor. First order of business - even before the illegal development moratorium - was to take down Bob Lenox's photo from the council meeting room. Others too. The outcry from staff and the public (but never Lenox) caused him to put them back up a couple of weeks later.

But, when Harold or George removes the Haddix picture next January, I am certain no one on staff or the public will have an objection. Not one. Zero. Nada. Not even pumpkin. Until then, maybe someone will spray paint $12,000 on that photo. We all know what that means.

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Mudcat on Haddix

I ended my last post with the word SAD, actually it's not sad because he came into office fighting with the world, attacking anyone who disagreed with him, staff, elected officials and the general public. Then when he made mistakes, never took responsibility, blamed others and would never apologize. Thats how we got hosed for $12,000!

The proper word is Self Inflicted.

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Not fond of your headline, Larry. Makes me feel unclean

But you are correct. We do these things to ourselves by not paying attention. We joke about living in a bubble, but many of us do live in a bubble (not that bubble, Dar - chill). We take no interest in anything that happens and if we do vote once in a while, it is for the last dope we saw waving at traffic. We actually deserve this nonsense.

I have voted here for almost 30 years every single time and most of my neighbors do as well, but thats only true for the older neighborhoods I guess. I've seen turnouts as low as 9% i some runoffs and 17-19% gets the election people excited in the off-Congressional years.

Yea, self-inflicted is a great description. Let's not do it again.

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Mudcat about Haddix

How's that, I changed the headlines for you.

We all know that Haddix is incapable of telling the truth. That has been identified by many citizens on this blog and on a wide range of issues too.

We also know he has shown no leadership, has 0 in people skills and after 6 years of whining and finger pointing, its very clear he does not know how to prepare a budget, otherwise he would have.

He has had 6 years to prove himself and we have seen nothing but rock throwing by this guy.

Had he relied on others to learn what he didn't know and been a team player with a smile, and learned to keep his mouth shut on the issues that generated lawsuits for the city, he could have possibly been re-electable as mayor. PTC citizens might accept he's not "the brightest bulb in the pack", and re-elected him because he was a nice quy and things got done.

Self inflicted for sure.

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Just STOP already...

both of you, find some other tactics. This is embarrassing to read.

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mrobinson_ptc and PTC Mayoral Election

Absolutely, you are 110% correct!

Please remember this in November when you vote because one of us is the elected mayor of Peachtree City.

You have to ask yourself is this who you want leading and representing my city. His behavior here is a clear representation of his conduct with city staff, city officials, county and state. Just ask around. "A leopard doesn't change it's spots".

I don't represent you, luckily for you and the other citizens, but he does!

This is a very important election and its time to elect a mayor who can do the job and with dignity.

That's my entire point.

Thank you for identifying.

Larry

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Pot meet kettle, or is it kettle meet pot????

Some people have very short memories---

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PTC Budget

What's perplexing is that the PTC budget should be a major issue in this upcoming mayoral election and so far little has been said. I suspect that's because council defaulted to Imker to work on it.
Realizing the city's budget was a disaster 4 years ago coupled with the fact that little to no maintenance was done on public assets with no infrastructure investments such as City Hall computers and software to properly manage all departments, council members have been quiet, or I should say quietly working to fix things.

Yes we have had the ocassional Haddix political outbursts calling Fleisch, Learnard and Imker
"Tax & Spend". That's easy to do and vote no when you know the budget will pass with tax increases needed due to falling property taxes, or when old bonds are retired for lower interest and new bonds added to cover maintanence and infrastructure investment which had been ignored for over 10 years.

The battle cry of "Tax & Spend" plays well to certain people, just look at the posts here.
However, where we were 4 years ago and where we are now is totally different.
Had the city adopted Haddix's 0.5 increase it would have been a disaster! The increases put in place have created a balance budget now, and going forward for a small while.

It was the 3 council members, Imker, Learnard and Fleisch who made the tough calls.
Haddix cried wolf for political support. Dienhart has also proposed balanced budgets.

PTC politics is never about the truth, just personal likes and dislikes and politics of who we can elect that we can control to prevent things or get something personally done.

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Close Kedron

Since I brought up the idea over 7 years ago the city has spent more than $5,000,000 dollars of the tax-payers money to keep this facility afloat. If it made any sense, someone could argue that this is a loss, leader but trust me, not one person moves to PTC for the pool.

What is even more annoying is that it doesn't add to the home value(s) and I would argue that less than 5% of the PTC population even use this facility.

At one point there was a group that was going to donate 3 million dollars to the city and operate the facility for less than half the current cost. It was like the song says "Everybody's talk'in at me but I don't here a word their sayin". This city needs a recreation pool like it needs a hole in the head and the bubble component is nothing but a joke...it makes us look cheap.

So I just found you $5,000,000 that can never be recaptured. This is the same mentality that has lost hundreds-and-hundreds of thousands of dollars in tax revenue on hwy 54. Worst than that, you are going to still end up with a red light, and instead of a very nice retail center with high-end shops you will now have a gas station. They always push up property values.

It's like I've always said "you don't want retail", you want to have nice things, then you are going to have to pay for them. If you don't want to pay for them, move somewhere else because the less that gets done here in PTC the cheaper home values get, the cheaper home values get, the cheaper the residents get....then there is an implosion. JUST SAY'N!

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The Real Truth

Thamk you Mr. Thompson for telling the real truth about that facility. It's a BLACK HOLE sucking up resources needed elsewhere, and it serves NOBODY! There are private pools all over Peachtree City, and to run a VANITY facility like that pool is a joke. How about you run for Mayor and get in there and kick some butt......

dar thompson
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Run for Mayor?

Well you never know. Anything can happen.

Larry.Sussberg
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American Patriots

It will be interesting since Imker was the only real one focused on balancing the budget mess 4 years ago.
Had the city adopted Haddix's plan of 0.5 increase we would be broke.
Of course, we could not do any golf cart path and road repairs, or sell off some public assets, close rec or start cutting police and fire.

How about we wait for vote.

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Budget workshop

You can count on Fleish, Imker, and Learnard to vote for increased taxes, and Dienhart and Haddix to vote against them.

In the end, we will see tax increases!

Jim Richter
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Splots = Vodoo economics

Using a splost for road and cart maintenance was wrong since it gave everyone a false indicator of the cost to do business (live in PTC). Now that its used up, this must be put back into the equation. I am as cheap as the next guy, but even I know something has to give. The politicians lull everyone with a splost, but its temporary.

Same with commissions plan for the splost vote in Nov. How about you send your buddy's back into a little room and don't let them come out until they have a realistic tax plan for the stormwater. Their balanced budget is all BS if they know they need infrastructure repairs and don't budget for it.

Splost should only be used for one time issues, NOT for long term budget line items.

I doubt you forgo maintenance on your home, while you wait for old Uncle Clyde to pass away so you can use the inheritance.

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Mr. jim

Better yet, just pass the budget as presented by Dr. P. and Mr. S. This is what they are paid to do. One 5 person vote yes, no discussion needed. End of story.

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Moelarrycurly

You may be onto something there, but not having seen their budget, I will reserve judgement until I see it.