Commissioner Horgan announces reelection bid for Post 1

For more than 36 years, Robert Horgan has called Fayette County home. And for the past six years, he has given back to the county through his service on the Fayette County Board of Commissioners. Last week, Horgan announced that he will seek to continue what he has started in his role as Post 1 County Commissioner as he seeks re-election in the July 31st Republican Primary.

“Fayette County is very special to me. I moved here in 1976, attended Fayette County High School, raised my family here, own a business here, and am very active in the community,” said Horgan. “Fayette County is home and serving as County Commissioner is my way of giving back to the community that has been so good to me and my family.”

Horgan, who lives in the northern Fayette County, was first asked by friends in his local Peachtree City Rotary club to fill the unexpired term of late A.G. VanLandingham and was elected to the Post 1 seat on the Board of Commissioners in March 2006. He was re-elected for a second term in 2008, defeating challenger Greg Dunn. “I have been the one commissioner to remain independent,” said Horgan.

Horgan’s support for our seniors is unwavering and extremely dedicated.

When first elected he was an advocate and gave the necessary votes to give the funding to complete our very most enjoyed Fayette Senior Center.

Robert continues to volunteer to give his time and effort to deliver Meals on Wheels to some of our Fayette County citizens.

Horgan, who also serves on the Board of Health and the Board of Fayetteville Main Street, has shown his commitment to fiscal responsibility, to maintaining the county’s land use plan, and preserving the quality of life with his unwavering support of public safety. “During my term, the county has maintained a healthy fund balance in this tough economic times by implementing several different money-saving strategies,” said Horgan.

As an example, Horgan points to the new county’s move to a self-insured healthcare plan, while facing an anticipated 23 percent cost increase in premiums. The county also altered the employment retirement plan, that resulted in an annual savings of about $400,000.

Horgan also played a key role in the elimination of double-taxation of Peachtree City residents for EMS services. “During my term in office, we have continually cut spending more than 7 percent annually in the last few years without increasing the millage rate, and maintaining the quality of service for Fayette County citizens,” said Horgan. “And, because of our budgeting philosophies, we have avoided personnel lay-offs and furloughing our much needed employees, public safety personnel, fire, EMS and sheriff deputies.“

Horgan also points out that in his tenure he has continually supported the Fayette County Sheriff’s Office, the county Fire Department and EMS, and played a key role in the expansion of the county’s E-911 center.

“I have remained committed to the comprehensive land use plan — there have been no major rezoning activities in southern Fayette County,” said Horgan. “Traffic mitigation has also remained a priority,” he added. “I remain committed to keeping MARTA out of Fayette County.”

Robert and his wife Sandi live in northern Fayette County, they own and operate a Mr. Transmission franchise in the Historical District of Fayetteville. Their daughter Dana is a senior at Fayette County High School, and their son Alex has blessed Robert and Sandi with a grandbaby and also lives in Fayetteville. Horgan is a longtime active member of the Peachtree City Rotary Club, and Partners in Education and The Chamber of Commerce.

Robert Horgan

Post 1, Fayette County Commission

Fayette County, Ga.

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Wooooo!! Now that's a question!!

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You've made some excellent points!!
As a matter of fact, there is a Judicial Candidate and Sheriff Candidate debate/forum tonight at 6:30 pm. It will be at the Harvest Christian Community Center, 383 N. Glynn Street/GA Hwy. 85 N, Fayetteville, in the Fayette Place Center behind the bright yellow Mexican Restaurant.

This would be a good time also I think to ask Judge McMillian why she allowed Mr. Horgan to plead to a second offense to his dogs running loose in the neighborhood instead of the FOUR he was charged with!!!

I may have missed it in the records somewhere, but I could find nowhere else where she allowed someone who had three or more like charges to plead to a second offense and only pay a $250 fine. Most people who had similar charges paid many hundreds more than Commissioner Horgan. Professional discount?

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This would be a good time also I think to ask Judge McMillian why she allowed Mr. Horgan to plead to a second offense to his dogs running loose in the neighborhood instead of the FOUR he was charged with!!!

For the third and fourth offenses, look under "disposition stage." It shows "nolle prosequi," which tells you that the prosecutor dropped those charges. Judge McMillian was brought two charges to rule on from the prosecutor.

Was that you taking pictures last night, CC? I thought I would see more bloggers there, although I was pleased with the number of people who came.

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PHOTOS & VIDEO Sheriff and Judges Debate
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Was that you taking pictures last night, CC? I thought I would see more bloggers there, although I was pleased with the number of people who came.

Yes, I was one of several people there taking photos that night. I have photos of the judges and sheriff's debate and video of the entire sheriff's debate. The videos are VERY long and not of the same quality as David Barlow would shoot, but then again, I'm a still photographer and not a video photographer!!

http://www.kombatkamera.com/Journalism/Local-News/News-Stuff/7952631_Mx8m4g#!i=1908440911&k=ZPcFcDc

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Damn, I just love that legal terminology! So the question becomes: Why would the prosecutor drop the charges?" BTW, glad you're (1) still employed (2) standing guard at those gatherings of candidates!

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Jevank, CC, & The Dogs

Damn, I just love that legal terminology! So the question becomes: Why would the prosecutor drop the charges?" BTW, glad you're (1) still employed (2) standing guard at those gatherings of candidates!

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CC, Judge McMilliam & Dog Fines

Just may come back to bite her! Or is this an isolated case?

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Before people run off smearing the Judge for this, you need to understand that those decisions regarding prosecution of cases are made by the Solicitor General's office. It is their decision who does and does not get prosecuted, the Judge basically decides matters of legal procedure and guilt or innocence. You'll find much juicer tidbits than this if you really look at how the prosecutor's side of the process works - issues like this are rarely related to the Judge in the larger counties, like Fayette. TinyTown South Georgia is a different story.

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DWKK07 wrote:

Before people run off smearing the Judge for this, you need to understand that those decisions regarding prosecution of cases are made by the Solicitor General's office. It is their decision who does and does not get prosecuted, the Judge basically decides matters of legal procedure and guilt or innocence.

Correct me if I wrong, but doesn't the Judge have to buy-off/approve any "Deals" that are made between the prosecutor and the accused? The judge can accept it or deny it, correct?

"The Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure provide for two main types of plea agreements. An 11(c)(1)(B) agreement does not bind the court; the prosecutor's recommendation is merely advisory, and the defendant cannot withdraw his plea if the court decides to impose a sentence other than what was stipulated in the agreement. An 11(c)(1)(C) agreement, however, binds the court once the court accepts the agreement. When such an agreement is proposed, the court can reject it if it disagrees with the proposed sentence, in which case the defendant has an opportunity to withdraw his plea."

It looks like Judge McMillian COULD have rejected the "deal" that Mr. Horgan's attorney made with the prosecutor when she saw that this deal would have him paying a $250 fine instead of the MUCH higher fines that she imposed on every other person who came before her?

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I paid $650.00 same month, same court. Mine got out because a storm knocked a tree down on my fence. I paid mine and his, sounds like!

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My son lives just over the county line in Senoia, and a dog came from the woods and bit my grandson. The dog was take to the Coweta county animal control office, and they were closed on Saturday evening. They then took the dog to the Fayette county animal shelter, and they were told that they could not accept the dog. They were told to keep the animal penned up and to notify Coweta county on Monday. They took the dog to their grandmothers home where they had a fenced in area located in Brooks. The dog snapped at them when they tried to put it in the pen, and they dropped the dog and it ran away. Day's later, Fayette county animal control found the dog and sent my son a citation. He went to court before Judge McMilliam, and she fined him over $1500 dollars. The dog was a stray, that came into there yard, bit their child, and she fined him $1500.00. This fine hit the family hard, for my son had loss his job, Christmas time was here with 4 young children and he had to return gifts to come up with the money to pay this fine. My son said everyone that went before the judge that day was guilty, no matter the situation. If you received a citation, you were guilty.

I think we need to get a judge, that listens to both sides of a case, and does not and will not make judgements based entirely upon whether you received a citation or not. The full details of the situation should be considered, and not just fine everyone that comes before you. I can say the law was applied equally to everyone, for everyone was fined no matter what the situation.

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He went to court before Judge McMilliam, and she fined him over $1500 dollars. The dog was a stray, that came into there yard, bit their child, and she fined him $1500.00. This fine hit the family hard, for my son had loss his job, Christmas time was here with 4 young children and he had to return gifts to come up with the money to pay this fine. My son said everyone that went before the judge that day was guilty, no matter the situation. If you received a citation, you were guilty.

I think we need to get a judge, that listens to both sides of a case ...

$1500.00 is a bit more than the $250 she fined Mr. Horgan. And just WHY would the prosecutor drop the two additional charges against Mr. Horgan when everyone else is being fined many hundreds of $$$ more for identical charges?? I'm still wondering why everyone else is fined so much more than Mr. Horgan. I can find no other case where anyone received that sort of deal in Judge McMillian's court ...

A judge that listens to both sides of a case? What an interesting idea!! I think people may just be tired of certain people receiving preferential treatment because of their positions.

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Judicial brutality is like police brutality

Judicial brutality is like police brutality. It won’t be stamped out unless it is vigorously resisted.

With ordinance violations, judicial brutality is presuming all defendants are guilty, presuming all government officials are accurate and truthful, disregarding or discounting the sworn testimony of citizens who are not government officials, imposing excessive fines, and sometimes boasting about it by claiming to be helpful in raking in money to help city or county budgets.

Even when there is no racism evident in this brutality, brutality is brutality, and a proud US citizen would fight it. Today we honor some of these fighters, and the death of Rodney King (though he was no role model) brings all this to mind.

Police brutality has been substantially reduced through the court system, but remember that we the citizens don’t get to elect our police chiefs, except for the county sheriff.

Though we do not elect our municipal judges either, we do elect our state judges.

With state and city judges, we always have the option of filing complaints with the Judicial Qualifications Commission which, if enough complaints come in about any one judge, ought to be able to open its eyes and do something.

State judges come up for election every four years, and though they are generally unopposed, once in a while some brave lawyer offers us a choice by taking on an incumbent.

Right here in Fayette County, right now, the citizens have an opportunity to choose between Carla McMillian and Stephen Ott for the State Court of Fayette County.

The people who consider fines of $650 for their failure to prevent a dog from running away to be excessive and an act of judicial brutality should not post in obscure blogs visited by a couple hundred people. They should broadcast their unhappiness to the world by at least writing letters to the editor of our local newspapers.

Voters need to hear how Carla McMillian has treated our citizens. As Stephen Ott has served as municipal court judge in Peachtree City and Fayetteville, let’s see how he has treated people. We need to hear well before July 31, the last day we can vote.

It takes guts to resist brutality, and a bit of intelligence to bring an end to it. Those of you who have stories, SPEAK UP!

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Morgan: thanks for the tip on the ears...

Actually, 100 signatures on the application for a recall petition were necessary and 520 were submitted. Mr Horgan exercised his right to challenge issuance of the recall petition, so the matter went before the Superior Court judge in LaGrange. Judge Baldwin only stopped issuance because he ruled that Mr. Horgan was not in the administration of his official duties (since the violation occurred on a Saturday, he was not in a county vehicle, and was not attending to county business). I viewed the matter more as one of judgment, and that Mr. Horgan had exercised particularly poor judgment by not registering his truck, driving same on public roads, and choosing to possess & use a controlled substance (regardless of personal feelings about it) while operating a motor vehicle. Would county citizens be best served by that judgment if a summer tornado ran through Coweta, Fayette, & Clayton Counties and the commissions had to quickly allocate scarce life saving resources? Do you have a threshold number of busts before one is unqualified as a commissioner?

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Again, sorry about your good looking ears, Citizen Bob

But my question about Horgan's recall remains -

So, let's say the judge went the other way on this and allowed the recall to proceed. What was likely to happen? Would he (meaning Horgan) have drawn a specific opponent like the Wisconsin Governor and who was that going to be? Or would it just be a recall to remove him and then the commissioners would appoint someone else?

And, I guess a good follow-up question would be is the Oddo guy the answer to my above question and is he the answer to the salvation of Fayette County? Horgan himself and others have told me he that Oddo is not a Brown toadie, so that's something. You do know what a Brown controlled commission would be like, doncha? Doncha?

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Would hog tying him have made you happy?

Frankly, I think the Judge made some excellent points.

He is an elected official with certain duties...not one of them is being on duty in Fayette County 24/7.

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Well Bob, if that's your real picture you are a different guy

than who I pictured. Apologies. Nice ears, nice hair, nice smile.

Never focused on the "not performing official duties" part of this. Not sure I agree with the judge. Sure you don't either. So, let's say the judge went the other way on this and allowed the recall to proceed. What was likely to happen? Would he have drawn a specific opponent like the Wisconsin Governor and who was that going to be? Or would it just be a recall to remove him and then the commissioners would appoint someone.

I'm still voting for him, but I'm resigning as cheerleader.

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George, I Agree

RWM, George is right. That absolutely IS Bob Ross.

However, before you make any firm commitments as to your choice for Commissioner in the Post 1 position, PLEASE get to know Chuck Oddo. PLEASE attend the Commission Candidates' debate on June 19th, at 6:30 pm. It will be held at the Harvest Christian Community Center 383 N. Glynn Street/GA Hwy. 85 N, Fayetteville, in the Fayette Place Center, behind the bright yellow Mexican Restaurant.

I just received an email from Chuck Oddo and I would like to share with you what he said.

"As I've told all with whom I've had the opportunity to speak, I am running on who I am, what I stand for, and what I hope to achieve during my tenure. The values the voters perceive in each of the candidates will determine the election. I believe my values are the values of the vast majority of Fayette Countians, and ultimately, that will be the difference.

Your support is of immeasurable help in letting folks know who Charles Oddo is, and I'm deeply grateful.
Chuck Oddo"

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I can vouch for Mr. Ross

That is indeed his picture.

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Horgan and Marijuana

I have read many of the articles, legal papers and replies on here and here is my take on some of the replies posted in this thread ...

“Regarding marijuana … he has already been challenged on that and the challenge failed. Can't do it again - double jeopardy.”

Actually, I think he can be challenged one more time. That challenge would be at the polls.

“ … there is a move underway to legalize marijuana in various states …”

There have been and continue to be moves underway to change the laws regarding marijuana over the years. But as of today, it is STILL illegal to possess, sell or use marijuana in Georgia. Until that changes, it is still a crime in Georgia.

“One pot bust is irrelevant to his duties as commissioner.”

One pot bust IS relevant to his duties as commissioner. The Fayette County Sheriff’s Department leads the fight against illegal drug use in Fayette County. As a county commissioner, Mr. Horgan has a voice and a vote in deciding issues regarding the budget for the Fayette County Sheriff’s Department. If for example, if the sheriff’s department needed more money to fight drug crimes, could Mr. Horgan honestly vote for or against that impartially, especially if he knows that his own illegal marijuana supplier could be a target?

Maybe I missed it somewhere, but one thing that I have not seen in any article or legal paperwork involved with Mr. Horgan’s marijuana drama is where he came forward and disclosed to law enforcement, the name and location of his supplier(s). Why not? Is he protecting his dealer? Or did he grow his own at home? There is a definite conflict of interest, which is quite relevant to his duties as a commissioner.

While we may not be able to do much about what our president inhales or does at the national level, we CAN have a positive impact here at the LOCAL level.

Mike

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Maybe he grows his own..

Just sayin...

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Maybe he grows his own ...
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Just sayin...

That should certainly be reassuring to his neighbors! Neighborhood pot farms are always a great way to bring everyone together!

You could also use it to teach the children about renewable resources and living off the land. Plus, it would certainly be a shovel ready green project!!!

Mike

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Combat Correspondent and Excellent Points

You've made some excellent points!!

Why didn't Mr. Horgan come forward and disclose to law enforcement the name and location of his supplier(s)?

After all his letter says, "Horgan also points out that in his tenure he has continually supported the Fayette County Sheriff's Office."

If he were truly supporting the Fayette County Sheriff's Office, he would have certainly disclosed the name and location of his supplier(s)."

If he truly cared about the young and older people of Fayette County, he would have wanted to see a harmful element such as drug suppliers off the streets; would he not?

Wouldn't he have wanted, as much as possible, to protect his own children from that element?

Mike, again you are so right that we "CAN have a positive impact here at the LOCAL level." We would all be winners on July 31st if folks were lined-up around every block at every voting site. Short of that, however, the rest of us will have to attend every debate and every forum so that we can ask questions of all the candidates.

As a matter of fact, there is a Judicial Candidate and Sheriff Candidate debate/forum tonight at 6:30 pm. It will be at the Harvest Christian Community Center, 383 N. Glynn Street/GA Hwy. 85 N, Fayetteville, in the Fayette Place Center behind the bright yellow Mexican Restaurant.

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ginga1414 wrote:

You've made some excellent points!!
As a matter of fact, there is a Judicial Candidate and Sheriff Candidate debate/forum tonight at 6:30 pm. It will be at the Harvest Christian Community Center, 383 N. Glynn Street/GA Hwy. 85 N, Fayetteville, in the Fayette Place Center behind the bright yellow Mexican Restaurant.

This would be a good time also I think to ask Judge McMillan why she allowed Mr. Horgan to plead to a second offense to his dogs running loose in the neighborhood instead of the FOUR he was charged with!!!

I may have missed it in the records somewhere, but I could find nowhere else where she allowed someone who had three or more like charges to plead to a second offense and only pay a $250 fine. Most people who had similar charges paid many hundreds more than Commissioner Horgan. Professional discount?

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County Commissioner is a position of public trust

We rely upon the integrity of our elected officials to guide the county. If the shoe were on the other foot and Horgan were an off-duty sheriff's deputy instead of a commissioner when he got arrested, the system would not have been so forgiving. And while he is only one vote, he has great power or leverage in being the deciding vote in a 3 to 2 majority where he has thus far always sided with Commissioners Frady and Hearn.

That's politics for you, and that's the way it is 6/14/12 1:43'11".

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Horgan and Marijuana

I have read many of the articles, legal papers and replies on here and here is my take on some of the replies posted in this thread ...

“Regarding marijuana … he has already been challenged on that and the challenge failed. Can't do it again - double jeopardy.”

Actually, I think he can be challenged one more time. That challenge would be at the polls.

“ … there is a move underway to legalize marijuana in various states …”

There have been and continue to be moves underway to change the laws regarding marijuana over the years. But as of today, it is STILL illegal to possess, sell or use marijuana in Georgia. Until that changes, it is still a crime in Georgia.

“One pot bust is irrelevant to his duties as commissioner.”

One pot bust IS relevant to his duties as commissioner. The Fayette County Sheriff’s Department leads the fight against illegal drug use in Fayette County. As a county commissioner, Mr. Horgan has a voice and a vote in deciding issues regarding the budget for the Fayette County Sheriff’s Department. If for example, if the sheriff’s department needed more money to fight drug crimes, could Mr. Horgan honestly vote for or against that impartially, especially if he knows that his own illegal marijuana supplier could be a target?

Maybe I missed it somewhere, but one thing that I have not seen in any article or legal paperwork involved with Mr. Horgan’s marijuana drama is where he came forward and disclosed to law enforcement, the name and location of his supplier(s). Why not? Is he protecting his dealer? Or did he grow his own at home? There is a definite conflict of interest, which is quite relevant to his duties as a commissioner.

While we may not be able to do much about what our president inhales or does at the national level, we CAN have a positive impact here at the LOCAL level.

Mike

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It's a misdemeanor in GA.....

and most states. YAWN.

I'm a whole lot more concerned with his voting record and also how he got elected in the first place than whether he smoked pot then, now, a 1,000 times before, or only once in his lifetime. I do not care whatsoever about him or any other elected leader smoking weed, drinking alcohol, being a vegetarian,smoker or non-smoker, etc. I care about their voting record, logical thinking and philosophy, as well as general attitude/demeanor in being an elected public servant. On all of those counts, I consider Horgan to be pretty much a FAIL. Never voted for him, Frady, or Hearn to begin with.

While I can see RWM's point of not ever wanting Brown as head boogeyman or a limited fundie zealot like Bartow in office either, sometimes the lack of decent people running for office means that's the reality for a while. In the political and social environment that is Fayette County, don't expect a lot of sharp individuals to throw their hat into the ring and run for elected office now or in the near future. I sure as hell wouldn't.

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Agree, what's the big deal...

It's likely that many of these same people ranting on here would have been criminals too during prohibition.

I will continue to base many of my local votes on what irritates SB the most. I think he's dangerous with TOO much power.

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RWM, This Is The Bottom Line

Mr. Horgan was elected by the people of Fayette County.

When the people elected him to the position of commissioner, they placed their trust in him to do what was right.

Mr. Horgan, betrayed the public trust!

Mr. Horgan sat in the back seat of a patrol car and asked, "if there was anything that we could do to resolve this right here, right now!"

For me, that speaks to the basic character of someone.

Facts are facts. Basic facts can't be changed. We can cover-up the facts. We can gloss-over the facts. We can even paint them pink or purple. But, we can't change them.

Mr. Horgan was stopped due to the fact that he broke the laws of Fayette County.

At the time he broke the laws of Fayette County, he was also a Fayette County Commissioner.

While sitting in the back seat of the patrol car, he wasn't found in violation of trying to bribe a law officer, but he did try to wriggle out of the situation. Does that speak to basic character?

When Mr. Horgan was placed on probation, he showed up at his probation office in violation of that probation. Does that speak to basic character, or is it just someone with a problem?

We all have problems of one sort or another, but what did it for me was the fact that he tried to cover-up, or gloss-over, or paint a different face on the situation as he sat in the back of the patrol car.

And, basically that is what he is trying to do by pointing out his civic involvement within the community and by carefully phrasing what he wants the citizens to consider commission accomplishments.

All of the above tells me that I can't trust this person to handle the public's business in an honest, straight forward manner.

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Ginga1414 - LOL

You actually want someone that is honest in government, obeys laws, doesn't have character flaws and is principled?

I think based on the many posts here supporting him, you are asking way too much of Mr. Horgan. He is a natural outcome of the views expressed here. Given these standards, why they are after Mr. Haddix is beyond me. He's a natural as well.

Principles.....why in the world would we want someone with principles?

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Mr. Morgan, please clarify your views

So you are saying that pot, probation violation, and holding public office mix?

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Of the people

I agree with Lincoln that our government should be of the people, by the people, for the people. The people smoke pot. Do the math.

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Didn't say that. Don't put words in my mouth

I can vote for whoever I want to vote for and my decision is based upon the experience and participation in the community by the candidate for whom I will vote. His opponent is a complete rookie in both government experience and community participation. Now, normally I am in favor sweeping out entrenched pols with a sense of entitlement. I advocate that for Frady and the other one. But because those two will certainly be replaced by rookies and one likely Brown toadie (Barlow), I'd rather have some experience on the commission. Brown as chair with 2 and possibly 3 supporters for his nutty ideas and witch hunts will be bad enough.

Plus, there is a very remote possibility that if Barlow loses and the third tier candidate (or even the Democrat) wins, Horgan could be elected chairman. That would be interesting, wouldn't it?

Regarding marijuana, 2 things. Both irrelevant to someone like you who has their mind made up that this should be the defining issue in an election for a county commissioner.
1. There was a recall effort that got off to a rocky start and failed. It then went before a judge and it was thrown out. This is that "due process" stuff that Cal and a few other rail on about with out dopey little mayor in PTC. In other words, he has already been challenged on that and the challenge failed. Can't do it again - double jeopardy.
2. Fans of Obama will be happy to learn that there is a move underway to legalize marijuana in various states or to at least get the issue on the ballot. Somehow they think it will turnout some new voters who will vote for legalization and all the Dems on the ballot as a thank you. The President admitted he smoked marijuana, does that disqualify him from holding office. Has anyone even suggested that?

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RWM & "Community Participation"

I'm sure you recognize that some people are involved in their community but choose to remain anonymous; others (certainly politicians) tout their involvement at every opportunity. I'll take a chance on the "rookie" as you called him.

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RWM, "Rookies"

I've worked with David Barlow on many projects over the last few years, and I can say with no reservations whatsoever that David is his own man. He will NEVER back down from what he knows to be true and right. As a Vietnam Vet, he is one tough cookie. He might be new to Fayette politics, but he is by no means naive to what that involves.

The phrase "Still Waters Run Deep" describes Randy Ognio to a "T." Randy is also new to Fayette politics, but when it comes to getting to the bottom of an issue, he will follow a line all the way to the source. I have watched him in situations where someone was trying to sway his judgement, and he never allowed his convictions to be compromised. He could never be accused of being a "go along to get along" type. Randy is a very successful business owner in Fayette County. During a bad economy when small businesses are failing daily, he has applied his tried and true business philosophy and has kept his company solvent.

Four years ago, I made the decision, with respect to local politics, to never vote for someone I don't know. That means I will make it my business to meet, question, and if at all possible to see how someone reacts in a compromising situation. When it comes to David Barlow and Randy Ognio, I have accomplished that. They are both extremely trustworthy men.

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I'd go with rookie as well, if these were normal times

But the 2 things that are not normal
1. 3 seats up at the same time. Hearn can't win, Frady is not running, so we know we have 2 rookies coming in already.
2. The Brown factor. He is bound to have conned one or both of the rookies with his "vision" and will almost certainly wind up commission chair. Anyone from Peachtree City can tell you what that is going to be like.
And the 2 or 3 (if Horgan loses) lame ducks will be ones deciding to hire a new county manager - long before the time when the newly elected commissioners have any say in the matter. If Horgan wins, I can see him and Brown and McCarty forming a business-like alliance and taking the selection of the new county manager seriously. Then it will be their guy. If Horgan loses, we are left with him, Hearn and Frady (3 lame ducks who will freeze out Brown and McCarty) selecting a county manager that Brown will certainly not approve of - if for no other reason that he was selected by the old guys. Then 2013 starts with an about-to-be-fired county manager, Brown as chair and 3 rookies on county commission. Nightmare.

I'd rather keep Horgan. Sometimes our choices are between two things that are not 100% desirable.

But you can vote for anyone you want. This is why people say elections have consequences. Once upon a time in PTC many people felt it was wrong to elect a Delta pilot mayor because of the petty jealousy some had about pilots, so they went with the outspoken underdog who was given free reign (IMHO) of The Citizen for months prior to the election - didn't have blogs or even a website back then. So we elected Steve Brown as mayor. See how elections have consequences? Years later we went on an anti-incumbent purge of city council people who made some developer-friendly decisions and rejected Cyndi Plunkett as mayor. We elected Haddix mayor. Need I say more.

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RWM & Speculation

Whew! Along with a ton of speculation, you threw in some minor indictments to spice it up! When you distrust decision makers even before they're elected, not much chance you'll be happy with ANYBODY! I will give whoever's elected the benefit of any doubt about selecting a new County Manager. Maybe that's why I'd never make it in politics. I'm sure we'll all do what we think's right when it's time to vote. May we all choose wisely.

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We won't all choose wisely, only some will

and then we'll see how it works out.

It is nice you are giving the benefit of the doubt to those elected to choose the county manager, but the current one is retiring this month and those elected will not take office for 6 months. Therefore, those who were unelected will play a large role in selecting the new county manager and I doubt they are going to consult with the guy that beat them.

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David Barlow

RWM-

I'd hate to see Mr. Barlow boxed in with inaccurate assumptions. My perception is that Mr. Barlow will vote his conscious on every single vote. I can't see him knuckling under. Please look at him as a candidate without preconceptions. I think he might surprise you.

As for Mr. Horgan- he is an elected official. That does not exclude him from the law. He should actually be held to a higher standard.

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RWM

I wouldn't vote for the guy simply because he was driving with an expired tag. How stupid do you have to be to let your tag expire, especially a public official? Was he really that stupid or was he trying to avoid paying the taxes on it. He's a public official, for cryin' out loud and should be setting an example.

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"Independent?" Commissioner Robert Horgan

In what way, Mr. Horgan, have you been "the one commissioner to remain independent?"

I really need an answer to that question because I have never seen you vote in opposition to or independently of Herb Frady or Lee Hearn.

You said, "During my term, the county has maintained a healthy fund balance in this tough economic times by implementing several different money-saving strategies." I guess so. One of the "money-saving strategies" that you helped implement during Jack Smith's administration was to defer much needed replacements and repairs of stormwater culverts under some Fayette County Roads. The same "money-saving strategies" were implemented by deferring replacement and repairs of county equipment and vehicles.

The stormwater culverts reached the point where roads had to be closed to school buses and emergency equipment for fear the roads would collapse under the weight. http://www.thecitizen.com/blogs/dennis-chase/06-07-2011/stormwater-fees-...

I don't call that "maintaining the quality of service for Fayette County citizens."

I suppose you just forgot about those crumbling stormwater culverts.

You said, "I have remained committed to the comprehensive land use plan..." What about the fact that you voted in favor of building Phase II of the West Fayetteville Bypass through the middle of a "significant groundwater recharge area, which the land use plan specifically says is a "no, no?" (Pages N-3 through N-6, Fayette County Comprehensive Plans 2004-2025)

Mr. Horgan, you said, "there have been no major rezoning activities in southern Fayette County." What about the rest of the county?

If I'm not mistaken, didn't the commission just approve a proposal to offer "early retirement" to 44 qualified employees in an effort to save money? Who will be paying for those folks to retire? How many of those positions will have to be replaced?

Who were your Peachtree City Rotary Club friends who asked you to run for office? Could it possibly have been Jack Smith and Herb Frady?

Mr. Horgan, there is also a little matter of a conversation, reportedly, between you and a Fayette arresting officer which went something like this,"if there was anything that we could do to resolve this right here, right now!"
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Robert_Horgan_recall,_Fayette_Coun...

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So, who is this Ross guy that fell 21,000 signatures short?

Short of a recall, that is. Is Ross the funny looking guy with the combover and big ears that supported Steve Brown? Back then his name was Rothly, but the mindset and the rhetoric are very similar.

I support Horgan. One pot bust is irrelevant to his duties as commissioner. His oppo is Oddo. Need I say more.

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Morgan & Oddo

So why should one not vote for Mr. Oddo?

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Really Mr. Horgan

Why would anyone think about electing a person who violated the trust of the people in his holding of the office. Sorry, no "pot heads" for me in office. Just call me old fashioned.

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