PTC Planners to vote this Monday on Hwy. 54 West retail center

Developer wants ‘big box’ store, needs special use permit

A proposal to build a shopping center with one store larger than Peachtree City’s 36,000-square-foot size limit will be debated by the city’s planning commission Monday night (June 13).

Trinity Development wants to build a 65,000 square foot retail store with two smaller “junior box” stores and a row of shops with two separate buildings. The development, known as the “Line Creek Shopping Center,” is proposed for 14.3 acres at the southwest corner of Ga. Highway 54 at Planterra Way and Line Creek Parkway.

The bigger store size will necessitate a special use permit, which can only be granted by the City Council. The commission is expected to vote to either recommend approval or denial of the special use permit, though council is not bound by that recommendation.

The matter will be discussed in a public hearing format, giving the commission the opportunity to receive input from residents. The meeting begins at 7 p.m. Monday at City Hall.

Trinity is also hoping to convince the City Council to sell it part or all of Line Creek Parkway, which also is necessary to have the larger store on the site. The sale of the street will also allow Trinity to lower the grade of the shopping center, thus lowering the impact on the adjacent homes in the Cardiff Park subdivision.

Trinity representatives have agreed to additional buffering and landscaping along the property line that abuts Cardiff Park.

In other business, the commission is also expected to review, but not vote on, a concept plan for the senior apartment complex on Newgate Road near the Kedron Village shopping center and also a concept plan for a parking lot expansion for Southside Church on Robinson Road.

The commission is also expected to consider approval of a landscape plan for the Walgreens pharmacy that is being built at the southwest corner of Ga. Highway 54 and Peachtree Parkway.

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Highway 54 retail center

Oh well, what's the big deal? It's just going to be another empty retail space in town.

Robert W. Morgan
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I think the big deal is devaluation

When the developer doing God's work can't find a tenant - and you will notice one has not been named - then he will default on his loan and the bank will foreclose and then the bank will begin a panicky search for some fool to buy the property at 1/2 price and they may even find someone and that someone will propose an even more downscale use. So instead of tenants paying almost $40 per square foot like they do in The Avenue, you will see retail space for under $10. Hello Goodwill and Dollar Store.

Can't happen, you say? Actually it already did. Trinity Development is the proxy for the bank that foreclosed. Can it happen again? Sure. Can the city make it worse? Sure.

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Dumb Masses

comes to mind. You're right on point.

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R.W. Morgan

You nailed it.
some folks just don't get it.

Robert W. Morgan
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Correct zoog, some folks don't get it and sadly some are...

serving in elected or appointed positions of power (or at least enabled to make decisions for the rest of us) and that's what really worries me. The one-termers like Haddix and Brown and Pace and Fritz and Logsdon and Kourajian and Weed and Boone and Rich "train whistle" Parlionterri (remember him?) all make decisions that seem right at the time when they are pandering to the single-issue know-nothings that show up and council meetings. But those decisions have consequences long-term and they really don't get it.

I think the full-time professional staff should provide the historical perspective and institutional memory as well as a firm guiding hand on the part-time elected officials by educating them before the votes. Of course that is hard to do when vindictive little people like Brown replace senior staff simply because they are senior or know it alls like Haddix refuse to listen to anyone.

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Morgan: copying?

What is going on?
Did you read #4 comment of yesterday?

Robert W. Morgan
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My response yesterday was to comment #4

then some towelhead replied over me. So what? Who appointed you hall monitor?

roundabout
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Well mine is #10 today!

Just another confusion with this software!

You may quote me anytime you wish---just don't change it!

Mike King
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Time To Put This Behind Us

Since the 14.3 acre parcel is currently zoned commercial, what if the owner says OK I'll meet the zoning requirements and place 3,4,or five 'smaller' stores on the site, all meeting code. How long would it take the city to bring the streets up to the 'standard, and at what cost? We do realize they've pretty much been neglected for some time now, don't we?

Maybe we could get our second used car lot like the one on Dividend, or a larger tattoo/piercing parlor. Better yet, it could provide office space for the mayor's legal team which is sure to grow. How about a multi-pump gas/convenience store and a Hooters? Facetious, perhaps, but property owners do have rights within existing ordinances despite the anti-developer rhetoric that has kept this site vacant for this long. The property to its west is developed for commercial, and to bluntly deny development will only result in additional litigation the city can ill afford.

For once, I ask the city to meet this developer half way so as to get what is best for PTC instead of the 'my way or the highway' mentality of the past.

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Property owners have rights within existing ordinances...

Exactly right. The only proplem is that CCD, and now Trinity, have acquired this property with the goal of changing or bypassing the existing ordinances, not developing the property within them.

Anyone following this particular issue over the past several years knows that this isn't a case of meeting a developer half-way. Three times, CCD went to the city council demanding variences to develop the property in a manner that maximized his value without regard to the overall impacts to other parties. The past council granted all three requests, over the vocal objections of city residents.

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MIKE

It's time we stopped discriminating against some retail establishments!

A high class used car lot would be beneficial to PTC if they put up enough stringers and balloons to be attractive.

Tattoo places of business are needed here. It is a very popular way for men to express manliness and for women to be sexy.

I am against the lawyer offices. We have far too many now looking for billable hours.

If you are talking about a combined multi-pump convenience store in conjunction with a Hooters, then I am for it. Need a parking lot between them so people can not tell which establishment one is visiting. A Cheetah could then be established on the North side of the parking lot and one could get entirely lost in the jungle.

On the South side could be a massage parlor in the front and a section for on-line gambling in the rear! Ladies entrance for the gambling parlor would be on the side.

You can't imagine how much money PTC could rake in from this conglomeration!
It also would be much more moralistic than a banker's and developers office!

Robert W. Morgan
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Got some bad news, Mike. Roundabout is closer

to what will actually happen on this site. While your approach is loaded with common sense, our leadership is not. They will make it hard o the developer, devalue property and then act surprised that something bad happened. Bad having rookies in charge.

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Developer gone haywire....

Why in hell (or heaven) does PTC need more retail space? Are we trying to attract Clayton County folks to our County? Don't we have enough problems with traffic and crime?

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Dragnet: New big box coming?

Well, here is the scenario that always happens:

The board will turn down the big box and refuse to sell the road..... at first.

Then a new plan will be submitted and the money for the road jacked up some.

Then that will be turned down and the city will ask for a new bridge out of it.

The developer says he can't build a bridge, but will plant a ton of trees around the place.
And. have the state put another traffic light in just for golf carts--with a button to push to cross!

The city will insist upon the cross path being wide enough for city vehicles to use it and two wheel-chairs to be able to pass on it.

The developer will say he has gotten the Guggenheimer Museum to agree to occupy the big box as long as a bus will run by the place from the airport!

Now we must argue where the buses will turn into the place and where they will park to not be visible.

Once that is resolve, the city will OK the construction.

Then the developer will not be able to get the money to build it, but the bank buys the place for a song and will eventually sell it for a fortune due to the zoning change making it valuable.

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Awesome

More traffic, more red lights, more holes for brain-dead PTC cops to hide in while they collect revenue for the city. I wonder if we could add some MARTA buses and a few check cashing places to Hwy 54 west....it's not quite crappy enough?

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Just Say No!!!

Please put an end to this kind of crap.

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