54W study remains in council gridlock

Yet again, the Peachtree City Council has punted a fairly significant issue following a messy exchange between council members that left some audience members shaking their heads in disgust Thursday night.

The discussion of traffic issues along Ga. Highway 54 West sprung a flat tire at the start when Councilman George Dienhart moved to deny a new traffic light on the highway at Line Creek Drive and also deny a developer’s unofficial request to link that development to Planterra Way.

Dienhart’s motion ultimately failed for lack of a second after it was noted that a technicality on the wording of the agenda item might prevent council from taking action.

The problem was that the agenda said council would “discuss” the traffic conditions on Hwy. 54 which implies that no action would be taken.

Instead of trying to convince his fellow council members to see it his way, Dienhart blamed them for failing to keep a political promise “to protect the residents of Planterra Way and Cardiff Park.”

Dienhart said the connection to Planterra Way would put kids in danger from cut-through traffic, and he blasted his fellow council members for working “behind closed doors” on a developer’s proposal to put a grocery store on the site at Line Creek Drive instead of working with the city’s economic development coordinator.

Councilmember Vanessa Fleisch said she limits her conversations with the coordinator in an effort to keep the employee away from “the political milieu that has derived from our dysfunction.”
Fleisch added that the coordinator has been busy working with existing industries on a host of other matters.

Later in the discussion, Fleisch advocated asking the Georgia Department of Transportation for a comprehensive study of the entire highway corridor, and she presented a suggested letter for council to approve that would jump start the process. That concept flew off the rail, at least temporarily, as Mayor Don Haddix said he hadn’t seen the letter prior to the meeting and that he wouldn’t sign a document he didn’t agree with.

Council ultimately tabled the matter to allow time for the letter to be massaged before it will come back up for a vote at the June 20 council meeting.

Another consideration offered by council was the possibility of asking businesses in the industrial park to stagger their shift times so a large flux of employees aren’t getting on the roads around the 5 p.m. drive time.

Resident Tim Lydell urged council to pursue the large-scale DOT study of the area.

“I ask you to please do that, and please tone down the rhetoric,” Lydell said. “Get along, shake hands, kiss and hug, do something different than what you’ve been doing, because what you’ve been doing ain’t working.”

The sentiment drew applause from several in the audience.

Resident Paul Lentz suggested council consider a “real-time adaptive system” of traffic lights that could be modified on the fly as traffic gets bogged down. Such a system could include the traffic lights on Hwy. 54 West and also on Ga. Highway 74 as well.

Lentz said a study by the Atlanta Regional Commission predicted in June 2011 that the trips between central Coweta County and central Fayette County would increase from 32,000 a day to more than 50,000 a day by the year 2040.

“The only candidate road for that traffic is state road 54,” Lentz said.

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Planterra Plummit

When we moved to the area back in 2009, we looked at several homes in the Planterra development before purchacing a nicer and more expensive home in unincorporated Fayetteville just past the Peachtree City "border". Boy, are we happy!

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54/74 quagmire

I know it's like trying to bail water out of a hole in the ground with a shovel while it's raining because the more capacity you add the more traffic will come. But, GDOT has already had a stab at improving both 54 and 74. They applied the same rubber stamp strategy they apply all over Atlanta. More lanes, more curb cuts, more traffic lights, and sidewalks used by nobody. In a place like PTC where alternate transportation is a reality why they could not have replaced the sidewalks that are not used with a cart path and added bike lanes?

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Haddix: Sidewalks

The answer to that is under MUTCD Federal Law the sidewalks are mandated.

As to why they were not replaced with cart paths, I asked that when I took office in 2008. Then Mayor Logsdon said it was not under Council jurisdiction so they didn't ask.

You always ask. GDOT will listen to reasonable requests and might grant them if done correctly. Some they cannot but will explain why. Purely political ones does not sit well with them.

It works. I worked on expediting the CSX/54 cart path, warning signal at the BSC, some sound walls residents wanted on 74, etc. Also currently working with GDOT and the ARC on a Fischer Road connection to I-85.

As for bike lanes, the paths are for bikes as well.

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Donnie and Riding Bikes

Obviously you've never ridden a bike on the paths, have you. First of all, the majority of the paths are not suitable for 10 speeds. Too many of them buckle and and too rough. No way anyone would risk ruining an expensive bike built for a smooth surface. Second, try riding a mountain bike on them. And then try avoiding people flying around a curve on the wrong side of the path head on at you. I have. Its always a blast crashing while the driver of the golf cart looks at you like you did something wrong and goes on his/her merry way.

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BS, Mayor

I've asked for at-grade golf cart crossings for years - mayor Haddix, you've not lifted a finger to make that happen. All you've done is say how GDOT won't allow it.

Steve

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Haddix: Wrong, Citizen_Steve

Since 2008 I have talked to our Federal and State Representatives and Senators, repeatedly. I have talked to the GDOT Director and others.

Westmoreland knows this is an issue I am going to bring up each time we see each other.

I also have talked to advocacy groups representing the golf cart industry and gotten them involved.

It is against Federal Law, thus against State Law, for golf carts to cross Federal and State Highways.

So, before you say I have not lifted a finger to change the reality, you should ask first what I have done.

This is a ridiculous law that no one ones to touch for some incomprehensible reason.

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Poor job, Mayor

Mayor, you said you'd asked permission to have golf carts cross and were denied so there's nothing to be done.
You said historically PTC did not enforce the law, at least in certain areas but you're too concerned about the potential lawsuit liability to keep the status quo and you've advocated tightening the enforcement.

You've done a poor job on supporting us as a golf cart community. We could be a model for so many communities but that will require someone to show leadership and courage.

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Why so many drivers between Newnan and Fayetteville anyway?

Last I knew neither of these places were business meccas - where are all of these commuters going? Are they mostly retail, government school and medical employees?

Steve

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Low Hanging Fruit

Looks like George is continuing his campaign to trump up votes by puffing himself up to be the defender of the oppressed and maltreated in Peachtree City.
Never you mind the details (i.e. facts), just be comforted that the guy who makes the biggest show of saying how he is standing up for you is surely doing the right thing.
Sadly, this political strategy works quite often. The same low hanging fruit (dumb voters) who find appeal in this sort of politicking are, sadly, a huge portion of the modern voter turnout.

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New Leadership

Lets vote for new leadership in Peachtree City in November. We need new people to lead our city, and that know how to work together to get the job done. Vote for the best people for the job, and not vote back the same people whom don't seem to be able to work together to get anything done now.

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Ryan Jolly

Anyone who blogs really doesn't deserve to be mayor....for goodness sake, you are on here with me, many anonymous strangers and Haddix.

Try running a real campaign, spend some money and do it legit! No one will take you seriously if you blog! You would do better standing on 54/74 with a handwritten cardboard sign around your neck in a chicken suit.

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Publicly available candidate apt to get my Vote

I will likely vote for a candidate who makes her/himself publicly available online, and TheCitizen.com is the best forum for local candidates to do so. I commend mayor Haddix for this one thing - responding to his constituents and freely sharing his opinions, regardless of how disagreeable they are. Better the devil you know than the ones you don't (politics is the devil's playground for sure). Jolly's still my leading candidate because he's making himself available for question/scrutiny, he's not an incumbent, and so far I don't detect any pursuit of personal gain driving him.

Steve

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Available candidates?

That's why they have debates, emails even open round table and town hall meetings. There are many ways to speak candidates but responding to anonymous bloggers who may not be PTC citizens......hmmmm

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Larry Sussberg

I would pay money to see Don Haddix standing on 54/74 with a handwritten cardboard sign around his neck in a chicken suit. I wonder if he would consider that for a campaign fundraiser...

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???

everyone is entitled to their opinion

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Absolutely

You are judged by the company you keep!
Welcome to the blogs....

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Ummm yes Ryan, that's the general idea we all seem to have

Jolly good of you to put forth those thoughts to keep us focused on the task at hand.