Smith, Maxwell taking lots of credit for other folk’s prior accomplishments

I went to watch the “Fayette County Tea Party” County Commission Forum on May 24. It wasn’t amusing, but it was entertaining, and a learning opportunity.

What did we learn? Well, it was clear that any good thing happening in Fayette County is the result of the efforts of the current commission. And, everything bad that’s happened in Fayette County is the fault of previous commissions. Especially the one just prior to this commission.

This should not be confused with President Obama’s notion that everything good in America is thanks to him and everything bad in America is the fault of previous administrations, especially the one just prior to this administration.

You could include rezoning in a “taking credit where little or none is due” list. [Commissioners] Jack [Smith] and Eric [Maxwell] brag about no rezoning.

The last big one I remember came when I was still on the commission. It was to rezone 40 acres from 5-acre minimum to 1-acre minimum in July of 2007. Smith, Maxwell and Frady voted to grant the rezoning. Pfeifer and Horgan voted against it.

I don’t think there have been any recent requests for rezoning and that has been a result of the economy. The question should be, how many did they turn down?

It’s also clear, from the forum, and from Eric Maxwell’s letter announcing his re-election bid, that he (on behalf of this commission?) is adding to their “taking credit list” the Senior Center, Kenwood Park and Lake McIntosh, all of which have been long-term county projects.

For example, Lake McIntosh has been a project for over 30 years! Eric and Jack just happened to be there when the projects “came in” or were completed.

And, it’s true; the sun did rise again this morning. Thanks, commissioners!

Monday, Jack Smith also told us that he had “wrested control of the government from the politicians and replaced it with people who cared more about the county than about re-election.”

Let’s see, going back 20 years, until 1990, only three commissioners have NOT run for re-election. They were Glen Gosa, Robert Sprayberry and Rick Price. Sprayberry and Price ran for state senate (Price won his election and served two terms in the state senate).

So, the list of those who did run for re-election, totals 19. And, when you include Jack and Eric, it’s 21. What’s different about them again?

When they aren’t badmouthing previous commissions and commissioners, they talk about how, as Jack said, “Fayette has always been ahead of the pack, leading the state with a wonderful lifestyle and a high per capita income and quality education.” (Jack, or was it Eric, said that those who run for commission but talk about schools are ignorant!).

I don’t get this. If Fayette “has always been ahead of the pack,” how does this go together with having to rescue it? Was it “behind the pack” until Jack and Eric arrived and they moved it to “the head of the pack”? If so, this would certainly be quite an achievement.

I think the words arrogant, ungracious, and yes, “politicians” apply here.

We should thank them for their service, and I certainly do, but as Eric said, “It’s time for a change.” It certainly is.

Peter Pfeifer

Peachtree City, Ga.

[Pfeifer is a former Fayette County commissioner.]

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Mbest, Boring? Drivel?

Mbest, Citizen Bob is absolutely right! And, I am firmly convinced, after reading your work for quite some time now, that you really should find a better way of expressing yourself. What in the world would you do if the $$ key on your computer stopped working? Mbest, honey, I'm extremely worried about you. If one continues to ignore the facts, one day those facts are going to jump up and bite them.

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mbest- no commenton his 1-man stand against Frady re-districting

I'm reading emotional banalities in your posts, but precious little substance.

The video, as one insightful instance, showed thoughtful & lengthy consideration of a very suspect proposal that appears to have been accepted by every other commissioner except Pfeifer, yet Pfeifer confronted all four of them- video evidence in direct contradiction to your unsubstantiated allegation that he "...was nothing but Greg Dunn and Linda Well's "me too" vote...". Obviously, Greg & Linda were not even in office during that session.

And the lawsuits- what were they all about? I believe the past sheriff's office refused to publicly account for considerable monies seized in [drug & other] arrests, yet the Chairman of the commission (Dunn at the time) had to certify the county's financial status (less the BoE). And why shouldn't those monies be disclosed and help offset taxes we paid to support the sheriff's office?

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Citizen Bob I think you're remembering it wrong,

I don't think it was the issue of diclosure I think it was who would control the money. I think the politicians should have talked it out not duke it out in court at our expense. I've talked to Johnson many times. He is not hard to talk to. I didn't comment on Peter's speach because Im not a fan of Peter's speachs. I'll take your word for it that he did well. I'm sure he spoke better than Frady would have.

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Citizen Bob I'm sure you mean well but I couldn't be any better

informed about Peter Pfeifer. He was part of a nightmare Commission who cost this county hundreds of thousands of dollars, literally, in legal fees due to unnecassary pi$$ing contest and lawsuits. If you didn't know Pfeifer all you had to do was read his long, drawn out, boring letters he used to publish here. Don't know where Dunn and Wells are now. Without them I don't know who's doing Peter's thinking for him, maybe you. Someone will have to.

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mbest- please avoid the uninformed drivel

Watch this video of Pfeifer posing excellent points in opposition to Commissioners Smith, Frady, Maxwell, and Horgan re: Frady's bid to re-district the county without adequate public hearing. Tell me who's representing the citizens of the county, and who's representing back-room politics?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6uArfZp8cM

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Peter go crawl back under your rock

I just had to wipe the spit off my computer screen. We've had enough of your sh$$ to last us another 20 years. Even if you have to go away mad, GO AWAY! Oh and Peter, you of all people shouldn't be calling others ignorant.

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Peter served us and he did so

Peter served us and he did so well--- as most public officials. "MBest" 's empty mindless post is a good example of why more people do not run.

Anyone who will take a turn and serve deserves some basic respect-- unless they commit a crime or something.

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My mind's not empty at all cogit

It's full memories of the nightmare Commission that Peter was a part of. He absolutely was nothing but Greg Dunn and Linda Well's "me too" vote on expensive lawsuits with the Cities and the Sheriff and constant bickering with everyone. Peter Pfiefer did not serve this county well and the voters wished him to go away and that's what he should do. I also remember you cogit as being part of that camp. The voters have spoken. Your group lost. Try to get the point and move on.

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cogitoergofay

"Anyone who will take a turn and serve deserves some basic respect-- unless they commit a crime or something." - I have to agree with you to a certain point but.... as I once had to tell a loved one; Respect is earned, not given. Peter can be a likable person but he placed himself in the bullseye when he tried to survive politically after Bost/Dunn got gone.

Peter was Greg Dunn's lap dog and when election time rolled around, that reality came home.

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Mike King, What About Smith's Managerial Skills?

Let's examine a few of Jack Smith's "managerial skills."

One of the main things the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) and our state agency criticized Smith’s Bank of Georgia Board of Directors for was “operating with a board of directors (‘Board’) whose supervision over and direction to the management of the Bank has not been adequate.”

The FDIC also criticized the bank for “operating with inadequate management whose policies and practices are detrimental to the Bank and jeopardize the safety of its deposits.” Another in the list of critical points was “operating with an ineffective loan review program.”

What about the fact that he doesn't document job reviews for the county manager and county attorney? That is just another "ineffective...review program." Jack Smith told the folks at the Candidate Forum that he does some job reviews "on going" and "orally?" Why? Is it too much trouble to document those two reviews?

I just plain don't trust Jack Smith when it comes to "orally." He can't even keep his stories straight. First he tells us that he doesn't support MARTA buses and rail coming into Fayette County. Then we find documentation where he voted in favor of it. Next, he said that he voted for it so we wouldn't be left out of Mass Transit, if we need it later. Then he says he "fought like a dog" to keep Fayette County out of the Atlanta Regional Commission Transportation Plan. And, in his next breath he said that he voted for an "ARC Transportation Plan." That ARC Transportation Plan included bringing MARTA buses and rail into Fayette County.

It looks like he could at least manage his story telling.

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no doubt close to the empty schools or new bypass to no where

"The last big one I remember came when I was still on the commission. It was to rezone 40 acres from 5-acre minimum to 1-acre minimum in July of 2007. Smith, Maxwell and Frady voted to grant the rezoning. Pfeifer and Horgan voted against it."

Thank you Mr Pfeifer for voting against the one acre lots!

People, look at it for what it is. Smith voted for one acre lots, we moved here because we liked it rural, and don't care for one acre lots. He is in with a bank that the developers run!

Please just tell me which do one acre lots match better

1. what the residence want,why they moved here, rural charm?...

or

2. with developer friendly?

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Bravo, Mr.. Pfeifer!

Well said. It's difficult for people on the outside to fully understand just who is responsible for what. I,for one, would like to hear more of what went on behind closed doors in the commissioners' offices. For instance, Eric Maxwell is claiming credit for solving the rift that existed between the sheriff and the commissioners. Did he actually do it singlehandedly? And what about all the claims Jack Smith is making for having a surplus? Was any of this put into motion before he got into office?

I hope you will share any insight you may have online with us so that we may get a clearer picture of Smith and Maxwell beyond what they say they did. You might also pass along any comments they may have made about the West Fayetteville Bypass that would enlighten the public as to what actually happened. I think you were still in office when the WFB Coalition and other angry citizens, myself included, addressed the commissioners back in 2008. One U-tube video I saw previous to the one I attended revealed a sheriff's deputy escorting a man away who was speaking out about the bypass. Jack Smith said that he would only listen to safety issues at that meeting.

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How about this for re-writing, Mr. King? Smith and Maxwell

What say ye on this one?

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Steve...

Why not leave the seat vacant? This way we don't reelect an incumbent and save ourselves the wasted time on rants, pouting when things don't go our way, and utter embarrassment at the lack of managerial skills much less leadership that you displayed while mayor.

I think I'll write in Mudcat.

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Mike King

In the Steve Brown letter with all the comments, Mudcat admits that what he said was not the truth.

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pips1414

And your point is???? Perhaps you were not a resident of PTC during his time in office.

This election between an incumbent with obvious shortcomings and a former mayor whose ego is much larger than the county he wishes to represent. I'm still writing in Mudcat.

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Exactly! By all means, lets give credit where credit is due.

The controversial West Fayetteville Bypass has been on the books since 1985. I know because I have been fighting the WFB since 1985. The only difference in the WFB since 1985 and now is the fact that the current set of commissioners are the ones who have declared that they are going to make sure the WFB comes to fruition no matter what. The present set of commissioners are the ones who are pushing it through. Jack Smith is the one who asked County Engineer, Carlos Christian, if there was any way he could speed up the process of getting the 404 Permit from the Corps of Engineers. That conversation took place at a commission meeting I attended. It was also published in this newspaper. In that conversation, Carlos Christian stated that yes the process was being pushed along by acquiring right-of-way permits at the same time they were applying for the 404 Permit. The WFB Coalition had been told by our county officials that right-of-way (property possession) would not happen until they had acquired the 404 Permit. I know this because I asked our head of Public Works, "What will happen to property if the county buys someone's property and the 404 Permit is denied. He said, "We couldn't do that. We would be in big trouble if we bought property before we have the 404 Permit." I failed to ask what he meant by "big trouble." However, I guess that really isn't any concern for our commissioners.

I feel sure the fact that the county applied for the 404 Permit without submitting all the data required by the U.S. Corps of Engineers was just part of the process to "speed up" construction. Several members of the WFB Coalition have been having on-going communications with the Corps of Engineers and they were all told that the county had failed to submit all of the required data and the application was being held up for that reason.

It appears, to me, that Jack Smith was in such a big hurry to acquire the 404 Permit because he wanted to make sure he had it in his hand before the election was upon us. I truly would like to know what he intends to do with the home and property of one person on Janice Dr. and any other right-of-way the county may have acquired since last summer, if the 404 Permit is denied. I know for a fact that one particular home on Janice Dr. sits empty. The former owner told the WFB Coalition that he sold his home and property to the county so they could build the WFB. This is very similar to what went on in the Board of Education. The BOE bought hundreds of acres they didn't need and now they are stuck with it.

Acquiring right-of-way before they have submitted all the required data to the Corps of Engineers is just another example of wasteful spending on behalf of our current commission. But, they seem to want credit where credit is due. So, I'll give them all of the above credit.