Maxwell: Goatman Steve Brown and some of his ‘pet’ projects

This summer Hollywood will provide us with another adventure of action hero Iron Man. This summer Peachtree City and Fayette County is also presented with its fourth adventure of Steve “Goat Man” Brown.

It is said that politics makes strange bedfellows. I am still shaking my head after I learned that two of the most despised and disgraced former politicians have formed an alliance to run Steve Brown against County Commissioner Jack Smith. How Steve Brown and Harold Bost ever paired up is an unknown to me.

I would leave these two has-beens alone, but since they want to include me in their personal attacks, I feel compelled to respond.

For those of you who have lived in Fayette County less than 10 years, Harold Bost is a former Fayette County commissioner who just after his election suddenly resigned after it was learned that he was not a resident of Fayette County. Upon Harold’s exit, a special election was held that cost the taxpayers an extra $70,000.

In Steve Brown’s letter to the editor last week, he accused me of having “pet projects.” His use of the phrase pet projects reminded me of his most notorious personal pet project while in his single and thankfully only term in elective office.

For those who are relative newcomers to Fayette County, Steve seriously suggested and caused the Peachtree City Council to study (i.e., spend taxpayer dollars) whether the city should operate a herd of goats to patrol the cart path system and rid the city of kudzu.

That’s right folks, after giving the matter a great deal of thought, Steve actually suggested bringing in real live goats for weed control. It was that kind of thought process that got Steve thrown out of the mayor’s office on a vote of four to one after his first four years.

Another of Steve Brown’s pet projects was the extension to TDK Boulevard. Steve wants you to believe that it was he and he alone that was the demise of the TDK Extension.

Fact: Steve Brown was the mayor when PTC approved the intergovernmental agreement with the Fayette County Board of Commissioners. In fact, it is Steve Brown’s signature that formally approved the project. Along with the TDK agreement was a city of Peachtree City check in the amount of $200,000.

Of course, the residents of Peachtree City then revolted at the thought of this road and the traffic that would come with it. It was under Mayor Logsdon’s tenure that a request was made for Fayette County to return the $200,000 seed money to Peachtree City.

A unanimous Fayette County Commission led by Chairman Jack Smith, Herb Frady, Peter Pfeifer, Robert Horgan and I helped kill Steve’s pet project by returning the $200,000 to Peachtree City and de-funding the road.

The final Steve Brown pet project that I will mention is the debacle that has occurred in west Peachtree City on Ga. Highway 54. A developer, Ram Development, has created a nightmare for all those that travel that area. During his unsuccessful reelection campaign for mayor in 2005, Steve Brown was caught with his hand in the proverbial cookie jar.

Steve Brown was exposed as having accepted a $1,000 campaign contribution from none other than the developer (The Citizen, Dec. 29, 2005). Steve tried to shift the focus and claim that the development was an asset to the city. This is a Steve Brown pet project that will continue to create gridlock for the foreseeable future.

When it comes to pet projects, Goat Man has his. What will he propose if elected? I hope we never find out. Bost’s good friend Greg Dunn must be mumbling to himself. Steve, take your goats somewhere else.

Feel free to give me a call at 678-520-0583. I ask for your support and vote.

Eric K. Maxwell

County Commission Candidate

Fayetteville, Ga.

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MY WFB

314 to White Road to 92 turn right, go left on Stanley take Stanley to Gingercake and turn left..by passed most of Fayetteville. End of Story :)

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Bravo, RMOC --- Your WFB shows the common sense

Bravo, RMOC --- Your WFB (the one that all of us use to bypass Fayetteville) shows common sense that Smith and Maxwell lack. I totally agree. These guys talk about "bang for your buck" as they toss around $25 million for a road. Total waste of money. If we voted on it fine-- let's re-examine and maybe just hold the money for now rather than increase our road maintenance budget.

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Those annoying facts...

It can be so annoying when facts get in the way of a good story; voters find it even more so when the story teller is a County Commissioner. And curiously, this story isn’t even about his political rival.

In his letter above, Commissioner Maxwell writes “For those of you who have lived in Fayette County less than 10 years, Harold Bost is a former Fayette County commissioner who just after his election, suddenly resigned after it was learned that he was not a resident of Fayette County.”

Given Maxwell’s stature as a commissioner and former judge, repeating this tale is tantamount to endorsing it as true. The story may serve near-term political interests, but what about those annoying facts?

Harold Bost resigned after four months into his second term as a Fayette County commissioner because, as reported in the April 18, 2001 Citizen Newspaper "I can't do anything halfway, otherwise I feel extremely guilty.”
“I could certainly have gotten by, just going to meetings and doing the surface work," he said. "But that wouldn't be fair to the citizens."

Still, he added, "It leaves a real hard knot in my stomach to walk away."
"I'd have liked to have stayed to help with the budget for this year," he said, but haste was required in order to meet the next available date for a special election to replace him.

That’s significantly different from Commissioner Maxwell’s version, but Maxwell is correct on one point: Harold Bost was indeed a former Florida resident- but it was for a single year, 1965, when his international employer assigned him there.

Bost does own property in Florida, North Carolina (where he was born), and Georgia, where he has resided since 1988. Taxpayers in the FL community where his property was located were being subjected to sharply increasing property taxes and Bost helped organize a political action committee (PAC) to reverse the trend; Bost did not hold any office in the PAC.

When you own property and spend time in several states, your voter registration is often a key criteria for determining residency (college applicants & drivers license applicants must satisfy others). The Fayette County Elections Office electronic voter registration files show that Bost has been a registered Fayette County voter since 1994 and voted 31 times between 11/8/1994 & 7/15/2008. Paper records go back farther, and show him as a Fayette County voter since 1988. Wish everyone in the county had that kind of record.

Commissioner Maxwell goes on to say in his letter “Upon Harold’s exit, a special election was held that cost the taxpayers an extra $70,000.”
"$70k was certainly nothing to sneeze at, but what would the other candidate
have cost the county had Bost not won the seat he subsequently stepped back
from?

Consider that his opponent in that election was married to an influential family with large county land holdings (zoning conflicts of interests?) and
rented office space from the attorney who continually challenged the county in court (more potential conflicts of interest?).

Politicians are easy to find; good public servants are much less common.
Bost had no intention of seeking a second term until he saw only that lone other candidate qualify; he then felt compelled to preserve the citizen-first
values that characterized his first term. Note: Bost also had no intent to run for commissioner this year until qualifying week was half over with no challengers to the post 4 seat.

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Your answers, Robert W. Morgan

1. On the West Fayetteville Bypass. As you know it takes three votes, two being Allen McCarty and myself. This is a very unusual election in that it centers around three main issues (A) West Fayetteville Bypass, (B) the outrageous SPLOST requests and (C) the votes in favor of mass transit in Fayette County. This election will be a mandate on those issues. Let us see if the remaining commissioners want to continue to ignore the voters after this election. On the money already spent, the portion that is built will function as a road. Like the TDK Extension, we came out far a head by scraping the project.

2. You are correct on the SPLOSTs. Probably the most damning evidence against the incumbents is true lack of respect for the taxpayers. The last SPLOST referendum was full of frivolous projects.

3. On the MARTA situation in Fayette County. For the record, I am not in favor of mass transit in our county whether it is MARTA, Fayette County Transit, Atlanta Regional Transit or whatever. Our biggest problem is that our Chairman Jack Smith has, in fact, approved a mass transit plan that includes Fayette County. The state recently put a funding mechanism in place through referendums. We already know that some of the counties want mass transit funding as part of those referendums. At this point, Fayette County leaving the Atlanta Regional Commission is looking like a good choice because our small population will always be out voted by the much larger counties.

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Your answers, Spyglass

During the Lenox administration, Peachtree City had an engineering sub named Ed Ellis of Dames and Moore (now URS). During the early days of TDK Extension planning, I pulled Ellis aside and stated my concern about the possibility of massive development occurring on the Coweta side. He agreed with me. That was all I needed.

Coweta Commissioner Vernon "Mutt" Hunter confirmed the problems ahead by refusing to even hint at what their new upcoming land plan would reveal on the Coweta side. Later a staff member at the Atlanta Regional Commission stated massive development was coming to Eastern Coweta.

As far as terminating the West Fayetteville Bypass, the project is totally run by the county. The regional and state entities think the project is a waste and refused to help fund it. So the county can terminate it.

An example would be the Northern Arc, a huge project. Most of the land was purchased for the project and plans were drawn. I worked with a group to kill it. Then-candidate Sonny Perdue acknowledged to our group that the project was DOA if he was elected. He was elected and the project was terminated.

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Would you like to talk about traffic in general, Mr. Brown?

Exactly what made you change your mind on TDK? Now mind you, I'm still not sure we don't need it, we just don't need 50K people right across Line Creek from PTC clamoring to get over here....but that threat is over now..how do you plan to help this/our area and the traffic problems? One of which is access to/from PTC to Coweta County. It is obviously a choke point for both Counties...In my opinion we flatly need more access points between the two Counties.

Also, regarding your "stopping the Bypass"...just how many times has that happened on a road already in construction? I'm not saying you can't do it, just wondering if you have any examples...

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Robert W. Morgan

I had some powerful state, county and one federal politician tell me the TDK Extension was going to happen whether I wanted it or not.

Where there is a will there is a way. Again, this election is a mandate on some key issues.

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Got it Steve, now I understand - and don't really care

West Fayette Bypass is underway but if you and the other guy are both elected - beating Maxwell and Smith, then one of you will make a motion to kill the project and the other will second it. Then in order to get the 3 votes needed to actually kill the project at least one of the other 3 comissioners who voted for it will now have to vote against it presumably because they are terrified by the anti-incumbent outrage shown during the election. I guess Horgan is the one you see as most likely to shift his vote. What a pipe dream that all is.

The odds of all that happening are impossibly high. In fact the odds of anyone actually caring are almost as high.

Killing the by-pass, exposing it as a developer's road, expressing outrage at special interests and calling everyone a developer is good campaign rhetoric, but as I said before - merely a bumper sticker - not a realistic plan. The anti-incumbent fevor is not a factor at the county level.

There won't be any new faces on county commission this time.

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What's the end game...

RWM,

After looking at the county road map, it appears that the route could initially move traffic around Fayetteville, but with no efficient continuation to I-85/other major arterials to Atlanta. If other commuters are like me, they'd discover that after sitting at the WFB terminus (highway 92) and resume their old traffic patterns through F'ville, no?

Commissioner Maxwell stated at the candidates' forum Monday night that the WFB was less expensive than the higher priority project on the old SPLOST, but if it doesn't solve the intended problem, what have we saved?

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Couldn't agree more Citizen Bob

Maxwell and Smith made it sound like they were doing the taxpayers a favor by choosing the cheaper road. Neither of them addressed the concern that the road doesn't appear to solve the problem. If I ever went to my management with a proposal to spend $25-40 million plus increase ongoing annual costs by some large amount and not solve the problem, I'd be unemployed.

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Hey Y'all

Spear Road is absolutely right about attorneys. I'm a retired court reporter and what I could tell you about attorneys and judges would turn your hair white. I worked with attorneys, judges, solicitors, and district attorneys from the time I was twenty until I was 55. It isn't a pretty picture. I have been in court rooms where the judge would side with the state during a trial, take the defendant's attorneys out to lunch, come back after lunch recess and rule in favor of the defendant. Then the judge said, "All right, I know that some of you saw me eating lunch with the defendant's attorneys. That had nothing to do with my ruling and I don't want to hear of anyone coming back and saying that I was influenced." I've also seen it go the other way.

Believe it or not, I worked in a Municipal Court one time where the judge asked the defendant's attorney over and over again, "Can I do that? Can I say that? Was that ruling right?" The judge sate there all day and chewed on a disgusting cigar. The whole thing was unbelievable. I felt as if I were in the Twilight Zone.

I've seen judges, attorneys, solicitors and district attorneys read the law one way then put a very very slight different spin on the thing and make it mean something else. Attorneys are master manipulators when it comes to wording. But, then again, so are politicians. You have to listen to every little nuance. You EVEN have to listen to commas and apostrophes. That's my two cents on attorneys.

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Too funny, Have2wonder!!!

It looks like the Maxwell and Smith hacks are beginning to come out of the wood work.

I read all of have2wonder's posts and got a good laugh. The one about issues don't matter was the best. Your leaders (I'm using that one loosely) made very bad decisions on the big issues.

Brownie was right. You guys can't defend your positions, so you just start ripping the opponents. Yeah, if you look at the issues this baby is no contest. Most of us want Smith and Maxwell to stop wasting our money!!!

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I'm about ready to forgive you Spear Road Guy

I was hotter than piss on a griddle when you came out pulling for Harold Logsdon instead of Steve Brown. Been reading your posts from time to time and it's obvious you have taken the time to study the issues. And you've apologized.

I'm tired of being angry. Let's hope Steve Brown wins and turns things around.

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No one had to tell lies to beat Greg Dunn. The truth worked

just fine. It's not bad enough that we have to hear from Bosts and the bad taste he leaves in our mouths, now we gotta hear about Dunn and the green eyed witch of Fayetteville, Linda Wells. Why would anyone think that any of those three names would get anyone elected. They bring back memories of constant bickering and expensive lawsuits with everyone they dealt with.

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Bost Addresses Maxwells False Accusations'

See his open response at
: www.SPLOSTPOLL.com

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Steve Brown pot calling kettle ....

Interesting that you think he is right about "personal attacks". From my perspective, he has spent the past 10 years attacking everybody who has ever served the commnity. In looking around past comments by Mr. Brown, it appears he has found time to tear down nearly everybody who has served from the founding of this community to those who currently serve it. While he begins with reasonable arguments on positions, it appears he always turns those into a personal dispute with those who took prior positions or made decisions he does not support. In fact his past allegations would lead one to believe everybody else in this community who made a decision without him had a conflict of interest or criminal intent. In the past, he seems to have used positions to split the community, not to bring it together. Foolishly I thought it could be different this time around. So far it isn't. That being said, I can see the bypass croud is anti-incumbant and that will not change no matter who is running. The Bost hard-core see themselves as disenfranchised to the point they will back anybody against those who beat them last time around. Splost and Marta are just political b.s. that was never going to happen anyway. I was looking for somebody to bring the community together and lead. So far, S.B. has only joined to attack those already serving. I have to wonder if that is a step in the right direction? And yes, I know, now I am criticizing his approach, which will surely be portrayed as a personal attack on him, not just a search for better leadership skills.

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Did you address any issues? Quit wasting space. Have a point.

There are real issues and you just talk about people and their rants and now you're a rant. Stick with the issues.
see the real issues at : www.SPLOSTPOLL.com

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You elect leaders Not issues

You can point to that site all you want, but when the first few lines start with calling people liars, the reader is quickly tipped to the fact that nothing is to be learned there (or at the very least the source is so biased that it cannot be relied upon). Leadership, character and the ability to build relationships is what we need to evaluate as those qualities will lead to the right decision on the unexpected issue that will arise while the person is in office. Why should I stick with "the issues" when the most important issues are still unknown. If WFB is it or Sany, then I shouldn't care who wins. EFB is unaffordable, so that is not an issue. Luckily, I guess I can rant here until Cal says I cannot and judging by the archives, he is a very tolerant guy.

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Steve Br....I mean, grassroots
grassroots wrote:

Did you address any issues? Quit wasting space. Have a point

Do you see this forum as your personal space in which bloggers can only say what is approved by you?

You and your oh-so-secret-club you call a website need to stop harassing the voters.

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Robert W. Morgan proves the point

I think Steve Brown is exactly right on the personal attacks. The other side seems completely unable to respond on the issues.

Maxwell is digging a huge hole for himself. He's an attorney after all and we don't need any more attorneys in government.

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I'd vote for right professional

I would much rather elect a professional with multiple degrees, small business experience, knowledge of the law and government and the ability to state a case for his/her constituents. That perspective is not a blanket endorsement, but the right lawyer (and I guess that means the right CPA) would get my vote over a non-professional because they are not just placeholders on the council/commission, but can be effective advocates for their community, consituents, and our local government. It also gives the consitutents a second professional opinion when the county or city attorney jumps in with an argument that may be full of legal b.s. that everybody will bow to if no other opinion in the room has enough weight to counter it.

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Attorneys Get A Life

Couldn't help it. Had to respond here too. Just love the comments on attorneys holding government out of the reach of corruption. Yes, if it weren't for them our government would collapse around us. Oh dear!!!

How stupid. It's the attorneys in elected office who are screwing everything up with their loopholes and double dealing. Go look at the attorneys serving in Congress and let us know how that's working for you.

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No attorneys in government, Doug?

That's a novel idea. Then we would have a bunch of people without knowledge of the law making our laws. And then we would have even more politicians ignoring the advice of the city attorney (like you know who when he was mayor) or would you want to get rid of the city and county attorneys as well.

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Mr. Maxwell - observations & advice

Your insecurity is showing.

You should stick to your record and pass on the personal attacks, it makes you seem small. Calling people names is at best sophomoric.

Getting personal with opponents is a sin which we all suffer. However, it is self defeating.

If you follow this advice, you will likely get re-elected. If not, you give your opponent an opportunity to look as if he is of made of sterner stuff and he win the election.

You have a good record, run on it.

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mbest, in terms of my background

In terms of my background (more detail on sb4faycom.com), degree in journalism and a minor in computer science, and had my own business in the EARLY days of the personal computer revolution (while a student at UGA - Brown Systems). I sold computers and supplies to students and components to the university before there were reliable local suppliers.

Managed a section in a manufacturing facility in Athens after graduation. Came back to Atlanta and found a niche restructuring dental practices. I found that the dental and dental speciality practices had significant clinical knowledge, but almost no business experience. I enjoyed the relationships I built in that area, rewarding work.

I essentially did the office of mayor full-time. Some weeks it was way beyond full-time. There was a small salary involved and it was donated to charity and a local government intern program I ran for local high school students in our county.

My wife is a successful (and good looking) physican who teaches in the Emory system. She has gracefully allowed me the opportunity to work on some impressive programs at the state, regional and local levels, benefiting a very significant number of people in our state.

I currently do some freelance writing in addition to gathering large amounts of information for a book on the history of Peachtree City. I would dare say that I have collected more information in the form of documentation on the early history period than any other entity.

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Informative answer. Just what I needed as well..

Thanks for your short, succinct answer to the question about what you do and who are you. Being relatively new to Fayette County, 6 weeks and counting, I obtained useful knowledge about you. I look forward to a great Town Hall meeting Monday the 24th. See you there.

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Questions for Steve Brown the candidate.

Who are you? I've read that you were the Mayor of PTC before I moved here. I've read your commenantary, which sometimes seem a little quirky, but that may not matter. My question is what do you do. What is your occupation and what is your background. If you want my vote and you're campaigning. Tell me, as someone new to PTC, who you are.

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Hey mbest - new guy in town

His initials are ABSB which is all you need to know when voting. ABSB has served us well since 2001 and through 2 local elections. ABSB - Anybody But Steve Brown.

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Personal attacks?

Mr. Maxwell uses terms like "despised and disgraced" and still fails to discuss the real issues: his support for the West Fayetteville Bypass, a pork-filled SPLOST and not a peep on Jack Smith's 2008 vote in favor of the mass transit plan calling for buses and rail in Fayette County.

The name calling continues from the incumbents and the facts still are not on their side.

The people know about the issues and the incumbents' lack of explanations does not help their case.

Mr. Maxwell confuses my talking about his record as personal attacks - notice he did not cite any examples - but it is his record at the center of this election.

My positions:
1. Kill the wasteful West Fayetteville Bypass.
2. No more ridculous SPLOSTs.
3. No mass transit in Fayette County.

Steve Brown

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This is not a personal attack, Steve - just 3 questions

3 questions about your 3 positions.

1. Kill the WFB. Good, I agree. Kill it. The question is specifically HOW? How do you, a newly elected county commissioner (you are not going to be chairman, you know) kill this project? What do you specifically do? Just make a motion to defund it? Would you need support from at least 2 other commissioners? Who are they? What happens to the money already spent? Any state money involved in this? Do we refund it? Just tell what the procedure is and what your blueprint is for getting there.

2. No Splosts. Agree. And even I know the way to stop these is to not bring them up. That's an easy one.

3. No MARTA. Ok. Again, just don't bring it up. I don't think anyone has, but if they really have and it is documented, then vote against them.

I'd really like to hear your game plan on #1. What we have heard so far is a bumper sticker "Kill the West Fayette Bypass" Now we need the game plan from you - and of course any other candidates who want to do this.

When you say Jack Smith hasn't explained his support of WFB and give it a bunch of adjectives that sound negative - that's name calling. Or at least it is until you explain your game plan to kill it and then you have taken the high ground and Mr. Smith then has to go into the details of his position. We are not stupid voters here in Fayette County. Disinterested, yes some are. Distracted, yes many are. But some of us are willing to actually listen to real proposals and we recognize them when we see them.

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Steve Brown - 2 days and still no answer on my 3 questions

How are you going to kill the WFB and other questions above in my previous post?

Everyone talks about "leadership", well part of that means having a plan and convincing others it is workable and best for the county. Try to answer the 3 questions soon so we can evaluate you simply as a future leader and not dwell on your past performance.

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Avoiding you, Bobby, that's

Avoiding you, Bobby, that's where Brown is....

Let me explain politics to you. 1/3 is for you; 1/3 is against you---- you concentrate your efforts on the middle third.

Giving you answers to any questions is like giving Monica Lewinsky abstinence training. Maybe the guy has moved on to someone with an open mind.

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I smell smoke!

Ok Ginga, you bring the tar. Pips, you bring the feathers and I’ll stop and get some gasoline and we’ll all meet at the church Monday night!
This is going to be FUN!

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Highflyer 2

You get the last word. But Mr. Maxwell, himself, should explain the attorney raise...not to one person by telephone, but to the public. Otherwise, the response is heresay. Why should the public not get it straight?

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Highflyer, Not On A Bet

I wouldn't call Mr. Maxwell if...... Remember, I was present when Mr. Maxwell spoke to the "bucket lady." Once was more than enough.

Voicing our opinions is part of the freedoms we enjoy in our country and I will continue to voice my opinion. When Mr. Maxwell spoke to the "bucket lady," he was trying to be either funny, snide or intimidating. Whatever his motive, it was completely inappropriate. I know, he's a politician. Maybe he was "posturing." Speaking of politicians, Mr. Maxwell and Mr. Smith were elected at the same time. However, Mr. Maxwell just lays it all out there and Mr. Smith plays things close to the vest. But, they are both facing opposition. One would think that one of the two strategies would have worked.

I might be mild mannered and less than savvy when it comes to politics, but I'm not stupid and neither are the voters of Fayette County.

No thank you to the invitation to call Mr. Maxwell. My time is more important to me.

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And if that doesn't work gina1414

CALL HIM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Feel free to give me a call at 678-520-0583. I ask for your support and vote."

Eric K. Maxwell

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Fayetteville, Ga.

Bet you haven't because it's alot easier to get on here and gripe and get nowhere.

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Amen, wattsup

I would like to know exactly what Mr. Maxwell thinks about giving the County Administrator a performance evaluation only "if he asks for one." I would like to know how Mr. Maxwell justifies giving the County Attorney an 11.11% raise without a performance evaluation.

Hopefully, some of our questions will be answered at the upcoming Town Hall/Candidate Forum this coming Monday, May 24, 2010, at the Christ's Church at Whitewater, 1577 State Hwy. 85 South at 7:00 PM. Hopefully!

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You need to give more information

ginga, I think you need to show us more of the quote about the peformance evaluation. Just giving us a 5 word quote out of a employee contract is not backing up what you are trying to make us think that it is a brother-enlaw deal.
After reading information put out by the current county commission regarding the county attorney. Its not the 11.11% raise you are talking about it was the $400,000 dollars plus that has saved the county citizens by having a in house county attorney. Not the McNalley firm that was put in place by Bost and Dunn that cost the county millions of dollars in wasted fees and no body watching out for the citizens tax dollars. I think that the current county commissioners have done a great job in finding ways in a very hard finincal times to same millions of dollars.

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What are the real issues?

I have little respect for people who resort to name calling or mudslinging. Tells me they don't have much to say on the real issues at hand. Where does Eric Maxwell stand on the current issues for Fayette county. I know where he stands on the Marta, but that is not the only issue out there. Why does he think the West bypass is a good idea? What happened to the east bypass that was going to be done first? Does he want another splost tax? Where does he stand on raises going forward? How would he reduce spending? With the state of the economy the way it is we need to be very fiscally responsible with the TAX PAYERS money. Some of us have lost jobs and arrogance is not the answer I'm looking for to solve the county's issues.

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good question

"Why does he think the West bypass is a good idea? What happened to the east bypass that was going to be done first"?

WEST BYPASS...Why does he feel a road 'frolicking thru the woods' on a way to nowhere, should be built in North Fayette? I have "frolicked" along the supposed route, and it does nothing...nothing for the citizens, nothing for traffic, nothing for anyone but the developers..it doesn't even have a real way to hit I85.

Now the east bypass..may have been a much better idea..but hey..those poor poor old Fayette county developers...how they gone make a livin?

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Highflyer

I just can't agree. "Gut feelings" only tell me that I have eaten too much or too little. When it comes to voting, I have to have more than "gut feelings." I have to have facts before I go to vote. Better yet, I have to have facts that I can see in black and white, facts that come directly from our county offices because we all know that if our County Officials tell us and show us it is true, then it surely must be true. Not! Call me cynical if you like, but my experience has taught me that our present bunch can't be trusted. Period.

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Hotdogs, baseball, summer, baby kissing,

and Politics! Don't you just love it!
People, listen to the candidates – believe half of what they say and go with your gut feelings.
I applaud Mr. Maxwell for shooting back and answering the questions. You have to respect him for that!
He gave the whole county his phone number……if you have a question…….call him!
Do you see ANY of the other candidates trying as hard?

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Pet Projects and Current Issues

OK, if we're voting for Commissioner, that person will have to address current issues, not what he says another candidate did wrong. I have yet to see Mr. Maxwell deal with the current issues discussed by Mr. Brown. Anybody can find things that they claim a candidate did wrong while previously in office, and that includes Mr. Maxwell. But its the better candidate who can deal with what the voters want to know a candidate will do about what's going on now. I don't agree that "pet" projects are necessarily a bad thing, unless the person credited with them 1) exercised a major or controlling influence on that project 2) that project was, or created the appearance of, a conflict of interest, and 3)was not in the best interest of the citizens of Fayette County. It would behoove Mr. Maxwell to address each alleged "pet" project, and then discuss how we all benefitted because of what he did. He should openly take whatever credit is due, and if we're better off because of it, he'll get the votes.

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Contributions

Eric Maxwell, Herb Frady, George Wingo all made handsome contributions to Jack Smith's first campaign. Jack Smith, Eric Maxwell and Robert Horgan met in Longhorn Restaurant (more than 2 is illegal ) days before the WFB vote. Not Kosher. All candidates will have an open meeting May 24th for discussion and questions. See details: www.SPLOSTPOLL.com
Ask him what was discussed at that meeting.

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mbest and mudcat

I most definitely understand politics and that is precisely why I hate politics. I see nothing funny or amusing about calling someone names. I saw nothing funny or amusing when our commissioner told a citizen who was extremely upset about her property that "Well, lady, you'll just have to be careful crossing that road with your water bucket." I guess that poor soul can now be referred to as "the bucket lady." If you had walked in that lady's shoes, you wouldn't have been amused either. And, yes, it is statements like that that give us all a great deal of insight into the person who made the statement.

If we don't focus on the issues at hand, and if we don't educate ourselves on the particulars of those issues, we are very likely to place our votes and trust in someone we can't trust. For example: In 2004 voters went to the polls and voted in favor of a SPLOST. That SPLOST passed by an extremely narrow margin. And, as it turned out there was absolutely no explanation as to what that SPLOST would cover other than "Road, street and bridge purposes." The voters of this county had no clue that the 2004 SPLOST covered the West Fayetteville Bypass. However, in 2009, our commissioners saw fit to ask the voters to pass another SPLOST. This time the voters had educated themselves with a great deal of help from the West Fayetteville Bypass Coalition and that SPLOST was voted down 3 to 1. So, as you can see, it is very important to focus on the current issues in order that we might compare those issues with issues of the past. There you go.

mbest
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on second thought

maybe you oughta back off the coffee a little bit.

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gina you need to wake up and smell the coffee

Politics is politics. Politicians point out the flaws in their opponents. You want them to talk about the issues? Read the letter above again. It's slam full of the issues past and present. Wanting us to forget past issues is unrealistic. Knowing someone's track record is part of being an educated voter. A politician's posturing is their way of letting us know who they are. I think a better start to your blog would have been "I don't understand poltics."

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maybe since 1994

The "politics" you seem to favor are not right. What you describe are tactics that are intended to divert voters attention from issues too difficult to solve. Governance is not a football game or a popularity contest. It's also not about getting the votes by pandering to constituents who don't know any better. It should be a serious endeavor. Mr Maxwell (as evidenced by his messages) does not seem to measure up.

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Love politics

I love politics especially when it comes to mudslinging. The citizens would be much more entertained by politics if we could just stop being so serious about boring issues and getting down in the mud like Steve Brown has done for years and now Eric Maxwell has responded in kind. No one is more despised than Steve Brown for his immaturity and self-serving approach to everything. The goat thing is mostly harmless and a bit funny, but Brown has really damaged our city mostly because of his poor relations with both county and state government - and of course the DOT.

When you read Eric's letter and of the 3 major characters he mentions Greg Dunn rises to the top, you know we have reached a new low.

Thanks Eric. You are my new hero.

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Hate Politics

I really hate politics, especially when it comes to mudslinging. The people of this county would be far better served if the candidates could just stick to the issues. That way voters would have a clue as to who they are voting into office. If we can't hear candidates speak to the issues, we can't make intelligent decisions as to who we will elect. Please, candidates, stick to the issues and drop the name calling. I'm not talking about past issues. I'm talking about current issues.

I think part of the political strategy with some candidates is to cloud the issues with mud and talk of past issues.

Citizens of Fayette County, please try to read between the lines and mud clods. Please go to the voting booths and make wise and sensible decisions. Please try to see through the political posturing and stick to the facts when you vote.

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Shame, Shame, Mr. Maxwell

I read Steve Brown's Letter to the Editor and Brown brings out some serious concerns that Maxwell fails to address. Take the West Fayetteville Bypass where Maxwell voted to approve its final alignment. I have yet to see either Maxwell or Jack Smith even attempt to publicly defend their pro-bypass positions on a project that the voters know is nothing but a waste of taxpayers' money. If TDK was a boondoggle, then the West Bypass is Armageddon. Sooner or later, Maxwell and Smith will have to defend their position of supporting a project "because they say Fayette County needs it." By attacking Brown, Maxwell will not be successful in diverting public attention away from his own skeletons. Before he lambasts Brown, Maxwell should address the concerns Brown brought to the public eye about his performance as commissioner. All he needs to do is prove Brown wrong in what he's saying, or at least attempt to do so. Instead, he simply sweeps what Brown says under the rug and the fun begins.

Thank goodness we have an alternative to Maxwell in the forthcoming primary.

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Truth, I Beg To Differ

Steve Brown is not nor has he ever been a member of the WFB Coalition. He has never attended a Coalition meeting. I know this for a fact. You can hang your hat on it. It is the absolute truth.

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Okay so....ginga1414 and Steve Brown

are joined at the hip. Got it.

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Pips ... Brown is an easy target

You should be ashamed you couldn't get a better candidate in this race. I know Brown's on the bypass coalition and all...

The voters of Peachtree City put up with him for four years. Then they kicked him to the curb. He lost re-election as mayor. Then he lost to political newcomer Matt Ramsey for Dan Lakly's seat. (Good call PTC).

Remember him chiding the poor kid who drowned in the culvert for playing in the area near city hall? Turns out the kid was trying to save another child who went under. (Proof Brown is a wreck in front of the TV cameras).

Brown suffers from a fit of jealously when it comes to the transportation SPLOST. He wanted the $50 million or so to build that bridge OVER the 74/54 interchange. You know, so all the traffic on 54 could be stuck at The Avenue light instead of at Hwy 54.

This grandiose wish from Brown for that "overpass" construction was DESPITE the fact PTC just had two huge thoroughfares widened by the state DOT. Can you say greed? I knew you could!

Maxwell is on point with the TDK flip-flop. Brown may well be one of the most disingenuous politicians in Fayette history, and that's really saying something.

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