Fayette’s soon-to-be inner city school

Some parents of Fayette County believe there is a future inner city school right near Tyrone, Ga. Although Sandy Creek High School has had many academic and athletic successes, lately student behavior at Sandy Creek has led us to believe that the successes of the past are overshadowing the future of this once great high school.

My child has attended Sandy Creek and has indicated to me that the student behavior is getting out of control. Fights, student disruptions in class, back-talking teachers, leaving class whenever they want, electronic devices, throwing things in class, profanity towards teachers and bullying are quite common now, where that was not the case years ago, according to my child.

I am very close to my children and love to hear them talk about their daily routine and how they are doing at school only to hear how great the teachers are and how disruptive many students can be.

My child can’t even complete assignments because of the disruptive students. I inquire, “What does the teacher do?”

My child responds, “I was sitting in one class where a disruptive student was out of control. The teacher sent the student out and on the way out, the disruption continued, and the disruptive student responded by saying, ‘Nothing will happen to me. I have [school official]; she’s my friend.’”

Later, I realized that my child was referring to [an administrator] at Sandy Creek.

My child has also disclosed to me that certain athletes get away with all but murder because they are under the care of [another school administrator].

My question is this: What is going on at Sandy Creek? Why is the administration so lax in doing a single thing like maintaining discipline so our children can learn? Are our children learning as much as they could without all the disruptions in classes and fights in the hallways?

Why are higher authorities allowing the administration at Sandy Creek to get away with allowing assistant principals to do nothing? And most importantly, what is going to happen at Sandy Creek if the present trend continues?

We moved to Fayette County for the excellent reputation that Fayette County schools had, but now I realize that the reputation does not apply at Sandy Creek anymore. I am concerned about Sandy Creek’s new reputation, the possibility of my child’s chance at HOPE scholarship and property values in the community where we reside.

Concerned Parent

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Neil, thanks for the input. The number of people that were pulled out does not matter, what matters is how many of them got charged, and how many got right back in. Our process has got to change. The burden of proof is on the school to prove that these people are cheating. Our social workers have to waste their time following people, waiting at bus stops and doing home visits. And because it may be a fluke, they have to document it on a continual basis. After all of their time and hard work, the child gets kicked out and then uses another fake address and gets right back in. There MUST be consequences for this. The affidavits should state that if caught, they have to wait 2 years to get back in, or must pay ALL the money back first. Heck, it is a felony so prosecute..I don't care what the DA says, the BOE should pressure them to do something..aren't we paying for attorneys to be on retainer? Neil, you did not say how Bearden responded to your request? I know we have over 1100 in our schools on affidavits. I would love to know how many are living with "guardians". No one wants to admit that the Fayette County tax payers are paying for hundreds, maybe thousands of kids who do not live here.

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Actually, the State of GA pays 1/2 the "Tuition" - about $4k

Yes, we get $4,000 per student per year from the State and Fayette taxpayers have to pay the other $4,000 - yes it costs $8,000 per student per year to get a public school education.

Perhaps that money from the State is why BOE and the admin staff look the other way on out of county kids. They may be illegal, but without them the budget shortfall would be even larger. That being said, maybe we could cut back on the buses since he buses don't service other counties. Maybe just one pick up point near the Fulton and Clayton County lines. Then we would have "busing" just like Boston and Chicago did in the 1970's. What great progress we are making. Forward!

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During the 2008 ESPLOST campaign we looked into this issue. At the time between 70 -80 out of county students were disenrolled. At the time I inquired of Dr. DeCotis as to why I could not find record of any prosecutions. He informed me the District Attorney choose not to proceed with charges. I do not know if this is true, but provides a little more context.

The other thing to beware of is the sticker on the car may or may not reflect the county of residency. Company cars are often titled and taxed at the company address. Plus if people move they may not change the sticker even if they move the tag. Tags are a sign but an incomplete science.

I had asked Dr. Bearden if we could put some language onto the affidavid to the effect if my child is found to be inelligible I agree to pay liquidated damges of $XX. This would remove the DA from the equation.

We used this at Delta to collect IDs as we could not withhold pay if we did not get an ID when an employee left but we could sic a debt collector on them. Our ID collection rate went way up.

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Hey husband and father. I have been very vocal about this for years, which tells me that you have never been to a boe meeting. I have had meetings with higher ups who say their hands are tied because they are afraid of lawsuits. I have given suggestions how to stop this, I have sent in tag numbers for years. I have been vocal in the blogs. Somewhere up the chain of command, they are not doing all they can to keep the cheaters out. And 16 tags is just a drop in the bucket. At last count we had 1156 kids in our schools on affidavits. That does not mean they are all here illegally but they need to be reevaluated monthly. Put the burden of proof on them instead of our employees.

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Put the burden of proof on them instead of our employees.

and that is the answer in a nutshell.

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Fayette County Schools do well!

Congratulation to the administrators, teachers, support staff, students and parents! Fayette County was not listed among the 25 Atlanta area schools with the lowest 2012 Graduation Rate. Fayette County - 2011 (78.23%). 2012- (85.53%). The only district that outperformed Fayette was Forsyth County.

A special congrats to two young men who established outstanding academic records while in high school and have been accepted in West Point and US Naval Academy to pursue careers in service to our country.

Ty Rufus Earl Moore, a graduate of FCHS, will attend West Point and Andrew Patterson, a graduate from Roswell High School in Fulton County will attend the Naval Academy. As we honor those who have served in the military, it is reassuring that our brightest are willing to serve our country. Mr. Moore will major in Physics. Mr. Patterson will major in mechanical engineering.

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Every year Fayette County and Forsyth County vie for the top number one or two spot in the State. That still shows the dedication of our Teachers and Staff as well as the forgotten partners, Parents. With that being said, the numbers are also clear that the school system has been in a state of decline for a number of years. The NUMBERS tell the story; just look at the numbers for each school in the system. It is not hard to see which ones have the issues as well as why they have the issues. Enough said...

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Fayette County Schools do well!

Congratulation to the administrators, teachers, support staff, students and parents! Fayette County was not listed among the 25 Atlanta area schools with the lowest 2012 Graduation Rate. Fayette County - 2011 (78.23%). 2012- (85.53%). The only district that outperformed Fayette was Forsyth County.

A special congrats to two young men who established outstanding academic records while in high school and have been accepted in West Point and US Naval Academy to pursue careers in service to our country.

Ty Rufus Earl Moore, a graduate of FCHS, will attend West Point and Andrew Patterson, a graduate from Roswell High School in Fulton County will attend the Naval Academy. As we honor those who have served in the military, it is reassuring that our brightest are willing to serve our country. Mr. Moore will major in Physics. Mr. Patterson will major in mechanical engineering.

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Off topic, but speaking of inner-city schools...

Did anyone else happen to see the 2013 U.S. News and World Report High School Rankings?

http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/georgia/rankings

As it turns out, ALL of the Fayette County High Schools fell short of achieving the tremendous success realized by their Clayton County counterparts. Three of those schools - Forest Park, Jonesboro, and Lovejoy - achieved "Best" and "Recognized Nationally" awards. No Fayette County School received any award or was nationally ranked.

The methodology used to arrive at these rankings is fascinating:

http://www.usnews.com/education/high-schools/articles/2013/04/22/how-us-...

Apparently, performance gaps between "disadvantaged" students and others matter more than actual overall student achievement. Perhaps this "failure" of the Fayette County school system can be a winning campaign issue for a future school board candidate from a future gerrymandered district.

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Those schools which were honored were honored based on their IMPROVEMENT in the areas designated. This is why many are glad NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND WILL END. Schools like those in Fayette County or other communities have very little room for marked improvement when they are already at the 'top'. Fayette County schools are still ranked high in overall achievement. . .as was noted by another contributor. There are three types of 'lies' - white lies; black lies; and statistics.

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Wrong, DM...

DM - Please look at the U.S. News website again. Theirs is clearly a "Best High Schools" list, NOT a "Most Improved High Schools" list. Please refer me to anything on the website that indicates "improvement" was factored into the ranking and awards bestowed on the three Clayton Co high schools.

Furthermore, if you look at the raw test scores without the PC spin and methodology (try www.greatschools.org), you will see that some scores at these lauded institutions have actually gone DOWN since 2009. Look at the Math scores on the GA High School Graduation test at all three Clayton Co schools, for example.

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The information for this 'ranking' are requested and submitted by administrators. You should look at the API scores for public high schools and that ranking. www.greatschools.org .???? What are you trying to say? That the students in Fayette County schools are not getting a good education? I suggest you look at the US News website again and look at each of the Fayette County Schools scores. The information given is the following: College Readiness Index; Math Proficiency; English Proficiency; Student Teacher Ratio; Rankings and Awards; Total enrollment; Total Minority enrollment; Total Ed. Disadvantaged; Full time teachers

The District Average for Fayette County is: English Proficiency - 97%; Math Proficiency - 96% and College Readiness Index - 29.3. Of the top 1000 schools in the US. The top Georgia School in this ranking is Riverwood, in Sandy Springs. Ranking: 258. Your concern should be how schools in Georgia rank with schools in the rest of the United States - and how schools in the United States are educating American student for the future.

If schools are producing students that are doing well in AP class; Fine Arts classes; basic academic classes - and are receiving national and state recognition for academic accomplishment and achievement; If schools are offering courses that lead to college and/or further technical training - then the schools are doing their job, I am not
wrong - but honestly didn't see anything on the pages you suggested that even discussed how these rankings were arrived at.

You and I should be concerned about Georgia's ranking among the other states in our country and the ranking of American students in comparison with students from other countries.

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From the 2011 GA HS report card, gaosa.org, GA SAT ranking:

McIntosh 15th
Starrs Mill 23rd
Whitewater 80th
Fayette County HS 85th
Sandy Creek 177th

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DM - missing the point COMPLETELY

I will break this down "Barney style" so you can keep up:

1. Anyone with an IQ above room temperature can recognize that, by any objective measure, Fayette's schools are vastly superior to Clayton County's.

2. Shockingly, the U.S. News rankings put Clayton's High Schools above Fayette's. Not "more improved" than Fayette's - BETTER than Fayette's. You got that wrong.

3. If you read U.S. News' methodology, you will see that these laughable results stem from an analysis of how well "disadvantaged" and minority students perform relative to their peers.

4. Anyone with an IQ above room temperature can recognize that this is politically correct, racial pandering B.S.

5. I provided a link to the greatschools.org website so that you could see actual test scores, minus the politically correct, racial pandering B.S. Note that on this website, the Fayette schools receive perfect (or nearly so) ratings, while the "Best" and "Nationally Recognized" Clayton schools have very low ratings.

Now, two related questions for you DM:

1. Does Clayton County have district or at-large voting?

2. In the same breath, you say that Fayette's black citizens are exactly like everyone else, with the same hopes, desires, goals, etc.... yet they also have unique and special challenges/requirements that only a representative of their color can adequately address. These concepts are mutually exclusive, so which is it?? Several others have posed this same question to you, and you have yet to provide an answer.

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You got it Silverstar

"Anyone with an IQ above room temperature can recognize that, by any objective measure, Fayette's schools are vastly superior to Clayton County's."

When I moved here years ago, it was to DeKalb County. The schools were rated some of the highest around. Well first the NAACP decided they wanted forced bussing. Then they wanted representation cause white guy was holden dem down and if they could only get their fingers in the pie to RUN DeKalb county schools, then everything would be wonderful.

Well look at those schools now. They are ruined, so much so that they made national news for the cheating and grade fixing of some of DM's heroes trying to hide the ugly mess they made. I'm sorry, but I haven't seen one county they have improved, much less not ruined once they got their fingers in it.

Every county that has caved to this has begun a slow rot from within.

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You fail Common Logic 101

Can you read statistical reports? Do you investigate on what basis US News Report gathered their 'facts'. If the analysis is based on how well disadvantaged and minority students perform relative to their peers - where did you get the comparison between Fayette County and Clayton?

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In the same breath, you say that Fayette's black citizens are exactly like everyone else, with the same hopes, desires, goals, etc

if you re-read - you will see that residents of North Fayette may have particular concerns that have not been addressed by the Board of Education or the Commissioners - to their satisfaction. I don't live in North Fayette - but many of my neighbors are not disturbed by the change to District voting. . .and race has nothing to do with it. The Fayette Schools in the information that I have included below are not 'ranked' in the US News report. What are you trying to say - and why? If you want Districtwide voting - talk to Brown. You, in my opinion, are afraid that white supremacy may be showing up as a fallacy . Check it out - even our 'minority' school did better than some schools in Clayton County. This report shows that. What are you concerned about - and why? Districtwide voting had nothing to do with the performance of our students in Fayette County IMO. I doubt if you can keep up - trying to use the success of our students, and your inability to read a report is sad. THE SCHOOLS IN FAYETTE COUNTY WERE NOT RANKED IN THIS REPORT.
The scores speak for themselves - and yet with our Districtwide, voting out of 1000 high schools in the US, only Mcintosh is in the top quarter. Our kids did well - but so did a lot of other students in the US. Our math proficiency is fine - but students in China and Japan (and at least 17 other countries are ahead of us). Why don't you check the program that did the analysis that another poster shared.

Clayton District High Schools

Lovejoy High School
http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/georgia/districts/clay...

Mundy’s Mill High School
http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/georgia/districts/clay...

Jonesboro High School
http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/georgia/districts/clay...

Morrow High School
http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/georgia/districts/clay...

Charles Drew High School
http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/georgia/districts/clay...

FAYETTE COUNTY HIGH SCHOOLS

MCINTOSH HIGH SCHOOL
http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/georgia/districts/faye...

STARRS MILL HIGH SCHOOL
http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/georgia/districts/faye...

WHITEWATER HIGH SCHOOL
http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/georgia/districts/faye...

SANDY CREEK HIGH SCHOOL
http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/georgia/districts/faye...

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I am against district voting for all candidates but am not against a combination of district and county wide candidates. I think district only is a bad thing...I like balance and all district voting leans too much to local control and wants. Think of it like Congress..we have representatives for our localities and Senators for the entire state. It would be a great way to make everyone pacified. Why not 4 districts and 2 at large???

Sorry to say the NAACP suit is totally racist.. Sour Grapes from a few black candidates who could not get elected. I know from my Clayton County experience of a certain County Commissioner who should not have been elected dog catcher but was voted in because he was black and his opponent was white a few years back when the county changed. Luckily for Clayton it seems that the new commission seems to be better. and I have to mention Victor Hill...

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Or maybe 4 districts and the chairman is elected at large

That gives the voter the best of both worlds - vote for someone in your district that share your hopes, your dreams, your color (just kidding but sadly the NAACP is not) and then you and every other voter can choose the chairperson for school board and county commission. Better the voters have input on the chair than just 3 or 4 old white guys picking one of their own.

What's wrong with that?

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Combination of district/at large on Commision

I have lived in a small city in Florida (pop 75,000) where the city council had a combination of district and at-large representation. If I remember correctly it was 4 districts and 1 at-large. I felt it worked well. Each part of the city had a representative who could be an advocate for its needs, but one council member, who could cast the deciding vote, had to answer to everyone. I didn't see it as a racial issue - just that different areas of town had different needs. This system worked well while I lived there. Seems like Fayette County could make this work too. Surely Brooks has different needs than Peachtree City... Doesn't seem worth the $ required to fight it.

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Thanks for sharing your unique insight. Much appreciated.

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Agree Bee, contact the councilman that represents your area

Tell him that District voting is the best thing that would ever happen to him. See what he says.
Barlow - Someone might lose their seat
McCarty - What does Steve think
Ognio - Denise says no
Oddo - Who cares, my district is safe

And then ask about the idea that the Chairman should be elected in a County-wide or At-large vote.
Barlow - let's pray about that
McCarty - Steve won't like that
Ognio - Let me call Denise
Oddo - Afte r Steve is gone, I'm the Chair

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Well, we'll see what happens. If I remember correctly, the District 5 as represented in The Citizen was just under 50% 'minority. G35 reminded me that that is economically the 'poorest' area of Fayette County. . and the rest of us are paying for their services. Under 50% to me means the majority of those 'poor' people in the District are 'white'. Gosh, I hope there are no 'minority' tax payers in other parts of Fayette County who feel that their tax dollar shouldn't go to those 'white' people in District 5. You had an idea that sounds plausible - 2 at large seats. In this county with a 70%/20% diverse population, - and the majority of the citizens treat one another with respect - this last ditch effort to 'save FC from 'the blacks' is sad. The assumption that the 16% of minority business owners in this community do not want to see this community thrive is unbelievable. There are advantages and disadvantages to both District and Districtwide. The citizens of Fayettteville elected a 'black' person (he was even a Democrat) without all this turmoil or whoopla. I can't understand why you don't understand - so there we are. We'll just have to accept that in 2013, there are still some things that are not understandable about not always feeling that as a citizen your vote means something. ( Maybe if there was someone in the county who actually asked the attorneys representing the NAACP these questions instead of someone who has only been here for a short time, and had no idea that this would still be an issue in FC in 2013.) I'm from LA - and a man who represented a minority community for many, many years was Kenny Hahn - a white man. Tom Bradley, a black man,served as Mayor of LA for 20 years - while blacks were still a minority. Now blacks and whites are the minority - and Hispanics and Asian Americans are in the majority. They just elected a 'white ' man as Mayor. They electorate felt he was the best qualified. The country is moving away from this black/white - better than/less than stuff because of skin color. The politics of this county stinks IMO just like the water in PTC. It is difficult for me to understand this in 2013 - but my friends tell me I just don't understand the 'history' and reputation of FC. OK.

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I was shocked to hear that Wendy Greuel lost to Eric Garcetti. Given that she had the backing of labor unions and fact that she was part of Tom Bradley's administration, I thought she was a shoe-in.

Anyways, the election turnout hit a new low...only 19% bothered to vote. I've not seen the election results by district.

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I thought she was a shoo-in also . In the past, a Bradley organization was 'on the ground throughout the entire city and tough to beat in LA even years after he was 'out of politics'. The 'leaders ' in power now are those that the Bradley people didn't endorse years and years ago. I guess old wounds don't heal - and there was strong support for Garcetti among some of the 'new leaders'. Times change - but low turn out is surprising. I've been gone ten years now. Wow! Time flies when you're having fun!

I found this quote interesting.

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The candidates also relied heavily on high profile endorsements, and the election was a test of sorts of the influence of figures in swaying voters who may not otherwise be paying attention. Former President Bill Clinton stumped for Greuel in April, and she featured him in campaign ads. Garcetti, an early supporter of Barack Obama’s campaign, got the endorsement of Obama’s former senior adviser David Axelrod. The president did not endorse in the race.

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I see where some are saying that the conservative vote made the difference. She was portrayed, even by Garcetti's team, as being in-bed with the unions.

It looks like a lot democrats just sat on their hands and stayed at home.

Oh well, I'm just glad I don't live out there anymore.

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It looks like a lot democrats just sat on their hands and stayed at home.

I agree. The demographics in the country, and certainly in LA makes for some very complex social and political issues . However, I don't think California is going 'Red'! LOL. If things keep going as they are, Georgia may be closer to Purple! LOl If we coukd just get people to understand that conservatives and progressives can work together to get this country moving again. Do you remember when there were cnservatives and progressives in both parties? At least those Congresses got things done. ( didn't mean to intimate that you are as old as I am)

YOU MAY FIND THIS INTERESTING:

http://graphics.latimes.com/la-mayoral-maps/#10/34.0834/-118.6304

I've been gone too long to know 'who' lives in what district now.

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To me there are the following reasons to change a law. The majority want it changed. If this is the case let us vote and see what happens. Or someone (a minority perhaps) has been harmed by it. If so please state how. As I see it the 5th district is probably the poorest district. This being the case they are benefiting from the rest of the county's tax dollars. And up until now no one cared. But now they want the money but no input from the rest of the county? Fayette County has a system that has worked. Why change it?

You twisted that into:

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G35 reminded me that that is economically the 'poorest' area of Fayette County. . and the rest of us are paying for their services. Under 50% to me means the majority of those 'poor' people in the District are 'white'. Gosh, I hope there are no 'minority' tax payers in other parts of Fayette County who feel that their tax dollar shouldn't go to those 'white' people in District 5.

Everything you post here is racially slanted. But I used to respect your point of view until now.

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This being the case they are benefiting from the rest of the county's tax dollars. And up until now no one cared. But now they want the money but no input from the rest of the county? Fayette County has a system that has worked. Why change it?

. .and up to now on one cared. An interesting observation. There are issues that the BOE and the Commission make decisions about that some members of South Fayette county feel they have little if any input, To try to say this is not a 'racial' issue is childish. People appear to be more upset because the NAACP is again 'demanding' and the courts are supporting them. Gosh, this is where we were in the country 50 years ago.

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Everything you post here is racially slanted

Not everything - but I am interested in the improvement of race relations in small southern towns like Fayetteville - and though much has changed, it appears some things remains the same. I know people are tired of that being pointed out - but even Mrs. Willis expressed some concern about the expression made regarding certain social issues in our country. I'm not here to garner respect. As I said before, I'm here to express another point of view. I respect your point of view even though I don't always agree with it - I do learn from it. Thank you.

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But now they want the money but no input from the rest of the county? Fayette County has a system that has worked. Why change it?

This is quite challenging. Thanks for the opportunity!

1. The seat at the table of the BOE/COMMISSION gives the District input - there will still be 'input' from the other Districts. Decisions will not be made by one District alone on the actions of the BOE OR THE COMMISSION. Right?
The 'wanting input with no input from the rest of the county' is wrong - right?

2. So all are represented. If citizens who are against this are open to 2 at-;large- seats, maybe, just maybe this can be worked out in a conciliatory manner. However - here is poor FC again being unfairly represented as a 'racist' county in the state of Georgia. You/ve placed yourself is stellar company G35 - Joe Kawfi, Suggarfoot, Major Mike - do you really belong there?

It has been reported that the NAACP feels that unless this is changed, there will never be a minority representative on the governance boards of FC. Never is a long time, and with the current citizens in FC in 2013, if this is a desire/need of any community - political steps in ensuring such action needs to be taken - as has been suggested in this forum. Selecting a qualified candidate who can articulate the issues; raising funds to 'market' the candidate - etc., etc. etc.

Go beyond the 'HATE OBAMA' crowd and the 'Hate Davids Mom' crowd and look at the issues and other points of views other than your own from your perspective. I don't have to lash out at you because you have a different point of view - but because you have lowered yourself to take personal swipes - so have I - and I apologize. Maybe next time around - I'll be perfect.

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You once again slant the point of a persons post so that you can play the race card. I don't care that the 5th district is mostly white and that there are some minorities that pay taxes in other districts. That was never the point of my post and you know it. You don't bother to answer direct questions. I asked you several. You're becoming a broken record.

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I'm not here to garner respect.

That is obvious. Your only goal is to take any statement and reword it to make the other person seem racist. You claim to want open dialog but then reword what a person says to fit your agenda. I did used to respect your point of view. But you've shown and now stated that respect is not of value to you. Neither is honesty as far as I can see.

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Thank you for your input. Have a nice night. (By the way - I don't think you're racist - but too sensitive about having your words appear racist.) If you were mature, you would have the ability to correct my incorrect impression of your words without having your feelings hurt. You aren't man enough to accept another persons point of view? (That's not racist) If you don't want your words/thoughts to appear racist - read them over before you post them. What questions did you ask me that I didn't answer G35? I'll be happy to oblige. Thanks. ANd stop mimicking SL's weak retorts. I;ve been conversing with you for quite a while and

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You don't bother to answer direct questions. I asked you several. You're becoming a broken record.

this is the first time that you have made this complaint. Interesting.

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If you were mature, you would have the ability to correct my incorrect impression of your words without having your feelings hurt.

I did that. Have you forgotten? I posted my actual comment vs your "different point of view". I do get sensitive when someone decides to twist my words to meet her agenda.

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If you don't want your words/thoughts to appear racist - read them over before you post them. What questions did you ask me that I didn't answer G35?

My concern was never about "MY" words but yours after you interject your "opinion". As for the questions I asked. They're still there. Read them if you can interpret them and answer if you wish. I no longer care. When a person does not wish to discuss a topic in a respectful manner I no longer value their input.

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Once again, DM proves by that she is the local racist-in-chief. Good grief, what racist, belligerant crap she spews every day. Why do yall bother even responding? She obviousoly has mental problems.

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Everything you post here.....IS... racially slanted

Always has been and always will be.

You don't want to get anything fairly...you want it handed to you because you and the NAACP feel you can't get it any other way.

You don't won't to have to work for anything.

I'm sorry you are black and you feel it such a burden.

Other races don't feel they have to have the deck stacked for them. They like to get it, or lose it, on their own. Whites don't want an upper hand on the Asians..Bell Curve or no Bell curve.

http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/04/26/9530.aspx

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Suggarfoot - stop the generalizations!

At 70+ years old- nothing in this country has been 'handed to me'! I'm sorry you are a white male who is realizing that the good 'ole boy club is on its way out for good - and you're going to have to compete with the Obama's of the world who have advanced degrees, outstanding grades, success in their resumes and charisma to win over people even if they are not white.

Don't be sorry for me or my family and friends. We're just fine in beautiful Fayette County!

Hey, Suggarfoot, want to compare IQ's? LOL

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Davids mom - Generalization

For you racism has never been and never will be a generalization. While beauty is only skin deep, both hate and racism go clear to the bone. You are, and always have been, truly disgusting.

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Two questions, DM:

1. Since you mentioned Obama's "outstanding grades," could you please post them here for us? I'm just curious, because I was under the impression that he has consistently declined to release them.

2. I'm a little confused by what you're asking Suggarfoot to do when you offer to "compare IQ's." You used the singular form of "IQ" and then made it possessive. What does this singular IQ own or possess? Where's the opportunity for comparison? LOL indeed...

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obama was handed an "affirmative action" degree

obama won't post his grades because he didn't actually earn the degree. It was handed to him as part of an 'affirmative action' program.

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Keep posting. Thanks.

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1. No reason to post his grades, silverstar. He graduated Magna cum laude from Harvard Law School. Look up the requirements for that designation.

2. Who cares? People are not judged by their IQ - but by their accomplishments. I'm sure suggarfoots accomplishments are many - and no one, including me, cares about his or anyone else's IQ. It was a silly rhetorical question on my part. Right? His insistence on posting test results that place ethnic groups above whites and blacks is a separatist ploy that is used by those who are our enemies and want to see 'racism' divide our great country. (However, having grown up around Asian-Americans - it not just their 'genes' that produces results - but the high expectations of their parents and their community - and their work/study ethic.) If all communities in our country adopted this 'expectation' for their youth - we would truly be UNBEATABLE as Americans. AND THIS IS POSSIBLE!!

Any other questions?

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DRM, I'm a card carrying member of the GOBC I guess....

and since you have made this a competition and already named a winner, I'm not really too skerred. See, the problem with your logic is there are not quite as many Obama's as there are the ones you see on the news every single day. Then, you can't forget the ones who have gotten kind of comfortable on the ole gubment dole too! Pretty big blunder for someone who brags about their IQ on here.

So, don't be sorry for the GOBC just yet. We're just fine in beautiful Fayette County too!

Oh, almost forgot....LOL!

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See, the problem with your logic is there are not quite as many Obama's as there are the ones you see on the news every single day.

There are not as many Steve Jobs, M, Romney, Buffet, etc., etc., etc. as the ones we see killing children, raping women (and men), robbing banks , etc. I get your point - but open your eyes, the GOBC is not just for 'whites only anymore'. Asians, Hispanics, Blacks are all involved in business, education, medicine, law working together to maintain/improve our great country - and they are working alongside 'whites-all Americans'. The GOBC, is now integrated. But you're not 'skeered'. Wonderful! (I'm not laughing at the pride of your arrogant ignorance) Sad.

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My, my Davids Racist Mom.....you have really been popular today. You have really come out swinging this evening though. Even had a chance for a little pity party talking about the "Obama haters" and the "Davids mom haters". That victim thing really fits comfortably I guess. Or maybe it is like a pacifier, ya just never want to give it up when you've had it from the crib.

But, back to business here. I realize you're an old coot and all, but you just can't keep your stories straight can you? Earlier you boldly stated the GOBC "is on it's way out for good". Now you laud them for their inclusiveness for "Asians, Hispanics, Blacks, and...whites-allAmericans". So are we going or are we staying? No need to keep my membership active if we're on our way out for good, is there?

And now you cut me to the quick by saying "I'm not laughing at the pride of your arrogant ignorance". Are you trying to goad me into an IQ showdown like you did Suggarfoot? When you call me ignorant it tells me you think you might have a shot.....

By the way, any news on Tyrone solving that murder to save his neck? Didn't think so.

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"Obama haters" and the "Davids mom haters".

There was an interesting article in the AJC today by Jeremy W Peters. GOP PONDER ITS STRATEGY FOR MIDTERM

The strategy of 'demeaning Obama' in two election campaigns did not work. Even with a sizable number of Americans who may not think he's doing a great job - 79% of Americans 'like' Obama. Gingrich in 1998 focused on assailing Clinton's character - it didn't work. Some Republicans IMO wisely want to use the strategy of focusing on the 'issues' - and not continuing the assault on the 'person' of Obama. Just saying. To keep doing the same thing over and over again- and expecting different results is sort of silly.

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I will never understand why I always have to explain things to you that you wrote. "Obama haters" was your term yesterday. You confuse criticism of Obama with hatred and that is your problem, not mine. I understand politics and the fact that these things have gone on with every president. You don't get that because he is the same color as you. That is your hangup and merely amusing to me. By the way, I defy you to find one time where I stated I hate the guy. I could not disagree more with what he says and does, but that only equates to hate in minds such as yours.

One other thing. Your constant rewriting and restating of history is always interesting. The majority of Republicans wanted Romney to demean Obama and his record. Especially in the debates, and even moreso after the first one. He chose to not do that. A decision that many feel cost him the election. Maybe, maybe not. But, you keep viewing that movie running around in your head of the elections that you remember.

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Feel better?

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You're a member of the obsolete whites only GOBC. Yup - you're on your way out - and you know it!
(And you and yours are causing the good people of Georgia to have to be on this 'watch list' for Voting Rights.) Instead of playing with me in the safety of your home - why don't you join those terrific folks from Gwinnet County who are showing the US that Georgia has some wonderful citizens that know how to reach out and help others in less fortunate counties. Fayette County does not deserve to continue to be called the 'racist' county in Georgia....but with citizens like you, that 'tag' will continue - and that really is sad.

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What???? A whites only GOBC???? Nobody ever told me there was another one until you did. Now that was not very inclusive of them to keep the all-inclusive GOBC from me. I am going to have to sue for past dues and see if the NAACP will have me. Sounds like they could use some new ideas anyway. Plus, Tyrone needs another lackey or two to stand around at his next press conference.

Have you seen the price of gas DRM? I can't possibly drive to either Gwinnett County or Gwinnet County, wherever that is. It is much cheaper and fun to "play with you in the safety of my home".....just like you are doing you over-righteous blowhard. You are no challenge.....

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This is fun!

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like you are doing you over-righteous blowhard. You are no challenge

Your classy retorts are fabulous! Thanks!

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DRM - continued

Well, it could be more fun if you had any fabulous retorts. You just don't DRM.....

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LOL

I think you've just been so 'outclassed' :]

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Suggarfoot

Hmmm, and it seemed like she was enjoying our back-and-forth so much, earlier tonight. Somebody likes to dish it out, but not take any back....

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COMMERCIAL OVER. Back to real entertainment!

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Inoperative words for you: Class/think

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Whoa....

and she's making a comeback. Going after Suggarfoot again. You really want to compare your IQ to hers, don't you????

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Wow gone for a couple of days and WWIII starts

...What is being compared btw?

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Welcome back SL!

Refer to Comment #33 on this same thread. DM challenged Suggarfoot to compare IQ to IQ.

We were having some fun around here!!

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But that's impossible moc...

..she says she is always civil and is the one who is being attacked... I see where she called out G35 as racist too so I guess I got some good company.

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Isn't that odd? I guess it was also civil when she told Suggarfoot that "class and think" were inoperative words for her. And I am racist and ignorant, but she doesn't like me calling her an over-righteous blowhard.

Oh, and it's my fault that Fayette is considered a racist county and why Fayette is on the watch list for Voting Rights. Hope they don't try to stick me with the appeal costs for the court decision......

At least we racists keep good company.

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Representation Before the BOE & Board of Commissioners

The Agenda for each meeting is posted on the County website for all who care to read. Citizens who want specific representation on a specific issue should attend the meeting and speak publicly to state their opinion. Or contact your representative via phone or email and tell them your position. I've not experienced a negative yetfrom the newest Board of Commissioners and actually had one request to meet with me and discuss issues. We did and had a 90 minute cordial exchange. Try it, you'll like it!

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DM you have valid points and I often agree with you

I really don't care about the race of the candidate when I vote, as long as the candidate represents what I believe is good for my family and the county. My problem is that many voters are ignorant of the character and politics of the people who they vote for. I have voted for Mr Wilkerson in the past when I lived in the district he was running for because he was the republican candidate. I have been disappointed in his involvement in the suit because after so many attempts to be elected for office, he has a big case of sour grapes. I really could not care less if the entire commission was black, if they were conservatives who believed in limited government, limited taxation, etc.

Fayette County is pretty much a "RED" county with a pocket of "BLUE". It really isn't so much about race as about Republican versus Democrat, Conservative versus Liberal. You must admit that minority voters are overwhelmingly going to vote Blue.

In some cases candidates who were not qualified were elected because of race, everyone pretty much agrees President Obama would never have been able to run for the presidental election with his lack of experience if he had been white. (and he probably wouldn't have won if the Republicans had rolled out stronger candidates)

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everyone pretty much agrees President Obama would never have been able to run for the presidental election with his lack of experience if he had been white. (and he probably wouldn't have won if the Republicans had rolled out stronger candidates)

Really? 45% of Georgia (Red) voted for President Obama. Are 45% of the citizens in Georgia 'black'? A Harvard graduate; a Senator; is not qualified to run for President because he is 'black'? I have no idea who Mr, Wilkerson is. Please fill me in. (Sincerely) It is very difficult for me to comprehend the 'we are better/they are not qualified) thinking that one runs into here in the south. I believe your words are sincere. .

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I really could not care less if the entire commission was black, if they were conservatives who believed in limited government, limited taxation, etc.

Why do minority voters not support the Republican Party in 2013 in your opinion? The largest black church in this country is the Baptist Church (Black). . .and they are very conservative regarding sex education, abortion, gay marriage, etc. They did not overwhelmingly support the presidential candidacy of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharptn, etc. What is it about the Republican Party in 2013 that has lost the majority of minority, youth, and the women vote? Did Michelle Bachman, and some of the others on the Republican ticket have more experience? (Except for McCain?) I know even less about PTC politics - but the people here (this forum) always seem unhappy with the 'qualified' persons they elect. Why is that?

What would change with limited government ,limited taxation, etc., that would make the majority of the citizens in the United States return to Republican leadership in the White House? Why do the Republicans care about the minority vote, the youth vote, the women's vote? I look forward to you sharing your thoughts. Thanks.

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Yes DM...

I can read reports. I can write them also; that's actually part of my job description. And, it's a major part of my wife's (psychologist). She has read your responses and convinced me that I'm wasting my time attempting to reason with you, so this will be my final effort. Here goes...

The Fayette County schools WERE among the 21,035 high schools evaluated by U.S. News. That's why their test scores, etc are reported on the website. However, the Fayette County Schools did not fare well enough to earn a ranking or award under U.S. News' methodology. Much like with their well-known college report, most of the institutions that ARE EVALUATED are not numerically ranked or awarded.

Now, allow me to quote the methodology directly from the U.S. News website to establish that I did not misrepresent the racial pandering B.S. I'll start with the second paragraph of Step 1:

"We then factored in the percentage of economically disadvantaged students (who tend to score lower) enrolled at the school to identify the schools that were performing better than statistical expectations.

• Step 2: For those schools that made it past this first step, the second step determined whether the school's least-advantaged students (black, Hispanic and low-income) were performing better than average for similar students in the state.

We compared each school's math and reading proficiency rates for disadvantaged students with the statewide results for these student groups and then selected schools that were performing better than this state average."

So DM... this interpretation of school performance based on "disadvantaged" and "least-advantaged" students is why the Clayton schools made the cut and the Fayette schools did not.

Finally, the following sad irony occurs to me: There are many Fayette citizens posting on this forum who disagree with your position on district voting; you assume we are all motivated by racial animus. However, for all your empty "equality" rhetoric, the only person who is openly advocating that minority citizens be treated differently... is YOU!

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Fayette County students do well Mr. Silverstar

Silverstar:

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The Fayette County schools WERE among the 21,035 high schools evaluated by U.S. News. That's why their test scores, etc are reported on the website. However, the Fayette County Schools did not fare well enough to earn a ranking or award under U.S. News' methodology

Davids mom:

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Districtwide voting had nothing to do with the performance of our students in Fayette County IMO. I doubt if you can keep up - trying to use the success of our students, and your inability to read a report is sad. THE SCHOOLS IN FAYETTE COUNTY WERE NOT RANKED IN THIS REPORT

Where is the contradiction between our observances? .

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You and I should be concerned about Georgia's ranking among the other states in our country and the ranking of American students in comparison with students from other countries.
The scores speak for themselves - and yet with our Districtwide, voting out of 1000 high schools in the US, only Mcintosh is in the top quarter. Our kids did well - but so did a lot of other students in the US. Our math proficiency is fine - but students in China and Japan (and at least 17 other countries are ahead of us). Why don't you check the program that did the analysis that another poster shared.

The methodology used by US News:

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"We then factored in the percentage of economically disadvantaged students (who tend to score lower) enrolled at the school to identify the schools that were performing better than statistical expectations.

Silverstar:

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So DM... this interpretation of school performance based on "disadvantaged" and "least-advantaged" students is why the Clayton schools made the cut and the Fayette schools did not.

You are concerned because Fayette County did not have the percentage of “disadvantaged and least disadvantaged’ students to be considered in the US News Report ranking? And you consider that ‘not not making the cut’ because Fayette County is a District that has a lower amount of disadvantage students a negative? Interesting.

Silverstar/in reference to his wife:

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She has read your responses and convinced me that I'm wasting my time attempting to reason with you, so this will be my final effort. Here goes.

Your wife is a very wise woman and loves you very much.

Silverstar:

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Finally, the following sad irony occurs to me: There are many Fayette citizens posting on this forum who disagree with your position on district voting; you assume we are all motivated by racial animus. However, for all your empty "equality" rhetoric, the only person who is openly advocating that minority citizens be treated differently... is YOU!

There are posters who have made points supporting District voting. My reasons (and my neighbors reasons) has nothing to do with race - but rather the assurance that someone will be at the table (BOE/Commissioners) who have our unique concerns about school attendance areas; maintenance of roads; etc. I don't live in North Fayette. As some have pointed out - one person of another race seems to be an issue with some in Fayette County. I live in Fayetteville - and if representation by color of skin was important to me - that concern has already been addressed.
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The always-haughty DM

Woulda thunk you might have been a bit more trepidatious in blowing thy blow hole on the subject of local education after declaring yourself a fan boi of and gushing like a teen girl at a Beiber concert over one Dr. Beverly Hall.

I find your passion endearing. Your certitude, however ... not so much.

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Teacher SALARIES

Does anyone recall the website which lists each employee of a school system with their position/title and salary? I recall this being public record.

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school system salaries
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Teacher Salaries: SHOCKING !!!

Teacher Salaries: SHOCKING !!! Thank you Sugarfoot for that website. It shows every teacher in Georgia.

Now I understand why Gov. Scott Walker was warning us.

The average American Chief of Police or Sheriff makes $92,000 a year. Our little elementary school has a principal who makes $107,000. Wow, that is shocking. Imagine what law enforcement would make if they were unionized like teachers.

Euro Economy here we come.

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But surely.......

But surely when you consider that principals also work more days than the average sheriff then one understands more fully the discrepanies in pay.

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Out of county kids

Husband and father, just so you know, many of these parents, myself included, have sent in tag numbers for years. At one point last year, I collected 16 in one day and sent them to the county. The problem is what happens after that.These parents that lie on an affidavit(felony) just get slapped on the wrist, they lie again with a new address and they get back in. Every once in a while, they will enforce it and make them pay back the school but they let them do a payment plan. Until the BOE changes the rules, this will keep happening. We should either get rid of affidavits all together or at least put a clause in there that if you get caught cheating the system, you cannot step foot back in our schools until you have paid back the money fully and live in the county, bringing proof in every month. Also, I have begged this newspaper to do an investigation into this..to sit at bus stops, watch the car pool lines. So far, nothing.

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16 tags in one day?

The spirit of Salem is strong in this one. Didst thou sense any of them to be witches?

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Missy: I learned a long time ago

You can't control what other people do. Some people lie, cheat, steal. Some break the 10 commandments. We can't control that. Some will find ways around the system.

If you feel that those 16 are guilty, don't stop fighting for justice. Go into a PTA meeting and get your fellow parents to follow you to a board meeting to fight for the changes you want. Picket the BOE. Be loud about this until the BOE reacts. Go to board meetings and pester them as a group.

Don't count on any FC newspaper to do an investigative report. They don't have the resources.

The bottom line is if your not going to fight for what you think is right, don't expect someone else to do it for you.

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???? who are you?

"The bottom line is if your not going to fight for what you think is right, don't expect someone else to do it for you."

SHE HAS DONE A LOT. Again, you are the armchair quarterback. We don't know what you have ever fought for.

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I do not have any kids at Sandy Creek, so I know nothing about the discipline, or non discipline. What I do know is that the out of county kids problem is out of control on the North side of the county because it is so close to Clayton and Fulton. Maybe the administration or higher ups are looking the other way because of sports, maybe they are doing their best to report them. But someone somewhere is dropping the ball and needs to be called on the carpet. This may be a reason why our scores on the North side of Fayette are dropping and we are having more discipline problems. On the bright side, we have less people sneaking in from Coweta since their scores are now better than ours.

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Amen Missy!!!!

You go you perky little witch!!!

For years and years people on the north side complained about the out of county kids! I've told many times on here the response I got when I complained to the old BOE member from our area. She called me a racist. That seems to quiet most people speaking up.. it only enraged me! I saw the out of county tags lined up at the middle school. Fayette county tags were in the MINORITY.

I think Fayette county schools should be given BACK to the taxpayers for their children.

If you bite the bullet and come here and pay the taxes....you should have your school boundaries protected from interlopers. No matter how many 2 yr college degree Northern want to be s get the position on the BOE cause no one else ran.

Northern Fayette...take back your schools. Take them back from Pressburg and take them back from the 'enlightened'!!!

Call it as you see it and let no one try to shame you into submission!!!!!

go Missy!!!! It is your kids time...take the ground for them!

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It enraged you? And you still did nothing constructive

Except complain. Gee, that accomplished a lot. You know where complainers go in my office? Unemployment.

You seem to talk a lot but never get anything accomplished.

If it enraged you so so much, don't just talk about it, get proof and request to speak at the board meeting.

Stand at the car pool lane and shoot a video of every car showing the license plate as they drop off the kids. Review the tape and count the number of cars with out of county tags. Have your kid write down the names of the students getting out of cars from out of county. Then hand over one copy to the board and one to be delivered to the resource officer to run a check. They can't quiet you if you present a case with supporting information.

Show that you did your homework and make the board work for you and all of FC.

But it seems like your afraid to ever take a stand. You choose not to defend your position and you allowed Ms. Smola beat you into submission only to cry about it on a blog.

I have no problem sending those away who cheat the system, but you must present a case.

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you have no idea what I did...or didn't do

those that know me, know I did quite a lot for many years.... Mine Is out and I'm finished trying. I helped get the man that Pressbeerg replaced to run. He was wonderful and broke the 3/2 vote by replacing Lee Wright.

I, along with others, asked Dr Marchman to run. A lot of people worked behind the scenes to get something done.

I'm not going to split hairs with you because you don't know what you are talking about and you also aren't listening. Missy turned in enough car tags to float a battleship.... You don't think I did back in my time you are insane! The whole point was that it all then went no where. Not for lack of trying by parents, but because, I feel, of old board members.

You know nothing, You have probably lived here only a year or two.

Everyone knows Smola never beat me into submission. That my friend never happened.

I would like to know what YOU have done since you seem to feel (and not know) what others have done to change things.

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Sugar you are a racist. Me too.

Sandy Creek trolling for football players from other counties is not good. Having them take SAT tests is really not good. Not the idea of them taking tests and certainly not the results.

Solution to many problems:
1. Ban out of county students
2. Ban football
3. Fire coach
4. Sell the football field.
5. Do the SAT tests again after the football players are gone.

Do we still have a deficit after that? Nope.
Would we have better test results? yep.

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^ Genius

Problem. Reaction. Solution.

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Sandy Creek trolling for football players from other counties is not good. Having them take SAT tests is really not good. Not the idea of them taking tests and certainly not the results.

Solution to many problems:
1. Ban out of county students
2. Ban football
3. Fire coach
4. Sell the football field.
5. Do the SAT tests again after the football players are gone.

Do we still have a deficit after that? Nope.
Would we have better test results? yep.

Just one question, because sarcasm can be hard to read. Are you serious?

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Serious reeawg44, Yes and no.

Yes - because if BOE were serious they would look at the cost vs. benefit of what I'm saying. Of course maybe they have and decided the football glory offsets the thugs, but who knows? Calvin Johnson gonna be reborn.

No - because if they did look at that and some football parent heard about it, the free thinker would get his tushie kicked - and hard.

And real serious - these are decisions that will still be real for some parent in the future. That future parent may be a student at Sandy Creek right now. Most of those kids grow up and have more kids. Personally, I'm rooting for the janitor's kid. He's legal by the way.

You can't keep up bad behavior and ignore the possibility that somebody is going to call BS on you. Might be the peeps who be payin da bill, ya know - the taxpayers.

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What a backlash from armchair educational commentators

The Concerned Parent's letter is published and what a backlash of comments and opinions from us bloggers. The BoE member's letter is published, and what a backlash of comments and opinions. The Citizen's editor's response is published, and what a backlash of comments and opinions as well.

We can go on about the Concerned Parent's letter, however imperfectly penned, and the fallout all we want, but none of us on the outside looking in will ever know the truth or fabrication behind the letter's contents--signed or anonymous--for a host of privacy regulations and other reasons.

If any of us COULD peer into classrooms unobtrusively to see student behavior and teacher responses, peruse the number of discipline referrals teachers have written, read what the referrals concerned, and view the dispositions of those handled by administration (who have some discretion in determining consequences alongside the Student Code of Conduct) we might be more cautious in using such loaded terms in our blogs as "inflammatory," "lies," "coward," "invoking fear," "causing divide," "yellow [journalism]," "racist," "spew falsehoods," and a few others like them.

Many of us may not consider "Concerned Parent" or his/her student as credible witnesses, and yet others of us don't like the letter's contents or the manner of reporting. We need to remember our own righteous indignation is informed by a limited knowledge base, and we should choose our critical words carefully if we are to be taken seriously. However, if some of us outsiders must continue the blind invectives on whatever side, may we please check spelling and diction before we publish and not make comedy of our "outrage."

Lastly, may we encourage parents, citizens, and school officials to ask questions and offer the rest of us answers for solving any challenges or reassuring those of us invested that the learning environment at Sandy Creek is as sound as many of us bloggers appear to believe.

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Fern Dawson

Get over yourself....

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Coward

You should post your name. You have NO credibility when you submit such an inflamitory letter and don't sign your name.

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LOL

"You should post your name. You have NO credibility when you submit such an inflamitory letter and don't sign your name."

Signed,

Aztecgirl

You uggghh ... didn't see the funny lil' bit of contradiction there?

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Evil Elvis

You're right -- Truth is stranger than fiction.

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Spell check......inflammatory

Spell check......inflammatory

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Why is the truth

inflammatory? I didn't write the letter, but it seems accurate.

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The truth should not be inflammatory

The people showing their butts on here about the blogger's comments must think their school very fragile. The woman has a right to say what she thinks. When my child was at SC, I know there were disruptions. The reason I know, is I've seen them being escorted out. Point is, I saw disruptions, but I also so them being attended. Were they ALL attended? I don't know. I'm sure sometimes the teachers are worn out, or down, by the same kids who then get away with it because the teachers are exhausted.

All this righteous indignation is pure BS. And the most from the BOE Presburg. If he thinks kids DON'T act up for attention as their little hormones are running....he shouldn't be on the BOE! He should take up residency in Disney Land!

As for the 'inter city' comment...what of it? Both black and whites turn tail from inter city schools. That is why most wind up in Fayette county. I feel the expression was used to describe the behavior none of us want...

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Why is it accurate?

Are you a student or a teacher? Do you work at the school? If you do, than you have credibility,...

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credibility

"If you do, than you have credibility,..."

If you are going to poke fun of spelling...then your above might be...THEN you have credibility!

Why don't YOU get over YOURSELF?

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